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TVMW7 - convert HDR source to any output SDR format - no problem. BUT. Colors. Default change ColorProfile not correctly recompute colorspace. Colors in SDR video from HDR source is faded. I tested "Color Correction" filter, but any setting not correctly set SDR color.
Is any possibility correctly recompute colors when convert HDR source do SDR destination in TVME7?
How my fault!:-) In EDIT page is needed use COLOR MANAGMENT page, and then in FORMAT page COLOR PROFILE page. Eee on two places same information/settings but OK. Colors after HDR to SDR conversion is "aggressive", but i test TONE MAPPING.
After many many days of experiments and many many days of encoding - HDR to SDR conversion in TVMW7 not work corretly/very bad implementation. Colors always "burn out". I check HDR source (2160p and 1080p) on HDR display, SDR source (2160p and 1080p) on SDR/HDR display and compare with reencoded HDR to SDR in TVMW7 (2160p and too 1080p) - colors always "unreal" and brightness to high (always). Small details destroyed. Yes i check many combinations of WorkingColorSpace, ToneMapping and Maximum Luminance, combinations of input Working Color Space (primaries and transfer) and Color profile - nothing correct this. And filter "Color Correction" too useless.
Result:
TVMW7 encoding HDR do SDR - Perfect
TVMW7 encoding SDR to SDR - Perfect
TVMW7 encoding HDR to SDR - Inapplicable:-(
...i check others SW (FFMPEG, RipBoot264 etc.) and result:
- conversion BT2020(HDR) to BT709(SDR) in *ALL(!)* others sw WITHOUT PROBLEM
- conversion BT2020(HDR) to BT709(SDR) in VMW7 just NOT WORK:-(
All other freeware(!) SW corretly transfer colors, in paid VMW7 color
burnt out, detail lost etc.:-(((
Those you just download and copy to a folder, example called LUT, at the same place that TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 7 is installed:
C: => Programs => Pegasys inc
When then wanting to use one of the LUT's, then after opening the video, then under Video Properties, find the word LUT and click on Settings.
Then choose Import File and find the location where you put the LUT's, choose one and then open the LUT.
One specific i just had a lot of success with is the one named: Rec2020ToRec709_CSTCreativeSW
Using that one and making some small adjustments to Contrast, Gamma and Chroma, i was able to create a PERFECT 1080p standard video as MP4 out of HDR versions of WandaVision.
Suggest also saving the adjustments you made to Contrast, Gamma and Chroma as a new template, so you don't have to do these adjustments each time you work with a HDR video.
In my limited experience so far, I find that TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works maps the HDR video to SDR quite well, but with a tendency to burn out the highlights with some tone mapping options.
We have 7 options for tone mapping: Disabled, Hard Clipping, and Soft Clipping at 50%, 60%, 70%, 80% and 90%. I wish I knew exactly what these settings mean, but in practice, with my data, they all give quite similar results, with the Disabled and Hard Clip more inclined to show a blown out white as slightly pink. The 50% Soft Clipping gives the best result and seems to be about optimum for my material. However, it would be nice to have lower values available, such as 40%, in case some scenes needed it. Some control over the shape of the softening curve may also be useful.
A histogram display with the ability to move independently any shadow hump or highlight hump, left or right, along the tone scale axis would be good.
I don’t have anything to show the histogram of HDR video, but it could be that other videos have more pixels in the high-level range, and that may be the reason for Bullhead’s poor experience.
A simple manipulation of the tone mapping curve is of course not the only way to compress dynamic range. A better approach would be some sort of scene analysis that first breaks the picture up into objects, or into shade and well-lit regions, with feathering of the boundaries between them. It seems to me that the Shadow/Highlight adjustment in Adobe software has some elements of this approach. LightMachine is a plugin for Photoshop that certainly does that for images.
As an example to illustrate the limits of simple tone mapping, consider a building with its façade partly in shade and partly in full sun. Let the wall be painted, say, a light brown, with the trim around the doors and windows painted a dark brown, which happens to be the same colour as the part of the wall that is in shade. Now, if you attempt to soften the shadow on the wall by increasing the brightness of all pixels that have the shadowed wall colour, the trim around the doors and windows that are in sunlight will also be lightened erroneously. Lightmachine attempts to solve that problem by identifying large darkish areas as shade and ignoring smaller objects that have the same darkness. It doesn’t do a perfect job of course!
I have the same problem as Good Knight and Toussaint:
I did a Blu Ray project with a First Play, and then converted it onto DVD.
Then I created one image discs for each of them.
The Blu Ray image disc is read with VLC and the burned disc is read on my living room deck without any problem.
The First Play is played before the menu appears, which waits for an order.
On the other hand, the DVD image disc is played on VLC, but there is no First Play.
This is the menu that appears directly.
It is the same for the DVD burned and read on my living room deck: No First play, direct menu.
So I’m led to think that many TAW6 users don’t know what First Play is for. Generally, professionals use it as a warning on the prohibition to broadcast a work in a public place, except to expose themselves to legal recourse relating to the royalties for the musical works burned on the media.
For my part, the First Play is used to start my videos with my own logo of amateur videographer.
It’s very “Pro” and makes a big impact on my friends and family.
I contacted Pegasys TAW6 support to explain this problem to them, but it seems that they punted on the issue.
So will we be able to cherish the hope that Pegasys will seriously study this problem?
I hope so because I am convinced that this software is fabulous and that therefore it deserves to be up to what it can do so well elsewhere.
So I've used this product for several years to make compilations of various HDTV files and haven't had a problem. I go to burn my first disc in a while though and suddenly 1920x1080 true HD files are being encoded and output with black bars on both the top and bottom and both sides. These should be able to fill the full screen no problem. I'm not sure why this is occurring as I haven't changed any settings.
TVMW7 not support more audio tracks? NOT BILINGUAL. Just simply more audio track - e.g. English DD 5.1 and Japan DD 5.1 in MKV.
Real example:
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- I have 4k MKV movie with English DD 5.1 and Japan DD 5.1
- I need re-encode to 480p MKV (for daughter players) WITH BOTH TRACKS
- In Timeline mode, if I add (layer1) only video, (layer2) audio track 1 and (layer3) audio track 2, TVMW7 “combine” both sound (in both possible output – Timeline output and All track Timeline output)
- in Normal mode I tested may combinations, one possibility is add 3x same movie, in first disable in clip properties audio, in second disable video, in third disable video and switch to second 5.1 channel – after Encode to “Individual clips” TVMW7 create three MKV, in all video and audio, in first video and no functional audio, in second no functional video and functional audio track 1 and in third no functional video and functional audio track 2 – I must merge this in another SW in correct MKV.
Question:
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Is possible in TVMW7 simply re-encode video with 2 audio track file to another video with 2 audio track file?
A very common requirement is to crop letterboxed wide-screen videos to make them 16:9 full-screen.
First we crop the black from top and bottom.
Then we have to crop left and right to maintain the same aspect ratio and avoid distortion. The amount cropped from left and/or right depends on the content - the most important part of the video is not always in the center.
So the video has to be split into many short clips.
So we slowly play the video in "Filters" view, displaying the output area guide lines, to identify where the cropping has to change.
But to add each clip split point, we have to:
- return to "Cut edit" view
- set the split point
- return to "Filters" view.
So please just display an "set split point" button to the "Filters" screen.
(Resetting split points can be done in "Cut edit" view if that is easier for you)
I have burned blu rays in the past with AW 5 and burn DVDs all the time with 6 and have no problem. Now I am trying to burn a blu ray. It goes through all the motions, then instead of burning the disc it asks me if I want to open the disc writer. Yes. Then after a few seconds it stops and gives me error 00000f7c. Does anyone know what the problem might be?
I've been using Video Mastering for years to do simple editing and encoding with great success.
I've just started a more complex project and have thought of two (hopefully simple) enhancements to improve the product.
* View Edits option. When you have several edits on a long clip it would be useful to view and change the edits. The Edit Menu could include a Show Edits option which would show the whole (unedited) clip with split points for each edit. The edits would be orange and the kept footage would be blue. (I realise the undo option is available, but this is only for the current session and only in order of the edits)
* Channel specific audio fade in/out. It would be nice to fade out certain channels (with more noise), but keep other channels. It would also be useful to be able to listen to the channels individually. At the moment this needs to be done in a separate application and re-attached as an extra clip
After installing the program will not launch. Error message is; "The executable file is different from the original. there is a possible virus infection."
Uninstalled and reinstalled. no change.
system Windows 10, Eset Antivirus, carbon black cloud sensor
I know this issue was from a while back, but were you ever able to find a solution? I'm suddenly receiving nearly the same message with TMPGEnc MPEG Smart Renderer and haven't been able to find a fix.
As of this morning, I am also receiving the same error when I launch Smart Renderer 5. Difference is that my software has been installed for several years and was working as recently as yesterday. Virus scans show nothing wrong and I've not modified anything on my machine recently. Yesterday OK, today broken.
I have not used this for 5 years. I created my own custom dvd's in the past (about 5 years ago).
I re-installed it last week, but unfortunately I am having trouble (the tutorials are not detailed enough) with the amount of data (I am using MP4 file sources) I wish to place on the discs.
How I did it in the past I do not remember, but I was able to successfully put more data ( ie.3hrs on a 4.7, and similarly more time on a 8.5) on the discs then they would actually hold.
I vaguely remember either/or changing the bitrates and maybe using dvd shrink.
I posted this at the AW 6 area to insure it would be read, as the forum for the AW4 hadn't been looked at in three years.
In summation, I am ok with all aspects except how to extend the data length on the discs. If somebody has a better tutorial, I would take the whole thing. The one that came with AW4 is not that great in addressing this problem.
Pulling my hair out making a basic DVD with one top menu page with two menu choices to play one of two different video files. I have it all authored. When I check it on the simulation the curser controller works great. I can switch back and forth between each motion menu and select the video I want to watch and then watch it.
But when I burn the DVD, the curser doesn't work and it won't allow me to click on on either menu. I get nothing.
Is it possible to place an Audiogram (I think thats what its called) on top of a video with TMPG Mastering works 7?
What would be the best way of doing it so it matches the audio of the movie?