This message is for Ashy....first, this is referring to the questions I asked earlier (titled "conversions" & "ogg vorbis"). Second, I want to know where I get the AVImux from and where to install it and then I want to know where to get the right decoder from to extract the audio(s)?....does all this happen within the virtual dub or do I install this stuff (decoder and AVImux)into the hard drive? This procedure and these formats is new to me and you know more about this than I do so you'll have to be more specific with what I'm suppose to do and how to do it. I want to thank you very much Ashy for ALL your help in everything you've been helping me with and I'd appreciate it if you could "spell it out" for me with these situations.

hi,
i wanted to know how you guys are encoding AVI's? i download movies off of kazaa. i have virtualdub 1.4.7 and tmpgenc ver beta 12a(0.11.20.98). i also have about every codec known to man. i do unpack the audio in virtualdub and encode in SeVCD for NTSC Enhanced.mcf (yes i'm using a old tmpgenc).is there any way to make dvdrip quality without making your own dvdrip or downloading a dvdrip movie? by the way,i just watch these movies.i'm not burning them for a dvd player.

If you aren"t going to burn it to Disk then there is No need to encode it to Mpeg..Encodeing it to Mpeg will just Make you loose Quality and have a Bigger file size so there is no purpose to Encodeing it to mpeg...

Trash in Trash out. You cannot improve an movie if quality is already poor. Your best option for non-ripped(Kazza) movie is to download Mpeg's only. Avi's are subject to corrupt frames and are produced with so many different codecs. You never know what you are getting until it is downloaded.

>Trash in Trash out. You cannot improve an movie if quality is already poor. Your best option for non-ripped(Kazza) movie is to download Mpeg's only. Avi's are subject to corrupt frames and are produced with so many different codecs. You never know what you are getting until it is downloaded.
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So even if i wanted to i cant clean up a avi at all? i have seen that you can clean up image quality with virtualdub.when i unpack the audio with virtualdub arent i removing whatever codec was used to compress the movie?can i somehow use a few filters then use a codec and make a clean looking compressed normal sized movie?

Using Adobe Premiere 6.5, when I export a clip set to file type Microsoft DV AVI, TMPGENC returns an unsupported filetype error message. However, when exporting as a Microsoft AVI, TMPGENC encodes just fine.

How can I get TMPGENC to recognize Microsoft DV AVI?

Thanks,
Steve

Try Raiseing the "Direct show" or "OpenDML" file readers in the "Vfapi Plugins"..Go to "options" to "enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and here is were you do it...

Go to "options" > "enviromental Settings" > "Vfapi Plugins"
Try Raising the "Direct show" or "OpenDML" file readers to 2

ASHY

Oops wrong post...

Hi all When i try to load a svcd file or svcd movie and press start on the main tmpeg screen i get the following problem Tmpeg brings up a window Saying file "c:/movie" can not open or unsupported. I have the latest version of tmpeg and the VFAPI plug-in for TMPGEnc. ive been told that there is another codec or plugin that i need and dont see it listed on the tmpeg site anywhere
HELP Please...

To encode Mpeg2 file with Tmpgenc you Need to have a Mpeg2 decoder installed on your Computer and it has to be either "Cyberlink" Ligos" or "Sony", if you have either "Power DVD" or the "Nemo codec Pack" then you should have the correct decoders and they should be listed in the "Vfapi Plugins"..You can try rsiseing the Priority of one of these plugins also..But if that fails(which it sometimes does)try De-Muxing the Mpeg file and just load in the Video..and if that don"t work then do what I do which is use "DVD2AVI" to make a D2V project file for the Video and encode that to Mpeg..I use this Method instead of haveing Tmpgenc decode the file cuz it seems that DVD2AVI does it faster that Tmpgenc...

can any one please help
This is the 1st time i have tried converting divx to mpeg so i can make a vcd but i keep getting a message saying " index of scan line is out of range"
Does anyone know what this means.
Thanks
Driver

This usually means that there is something wrong with your AVI/DIVX file..and there is no Cure within Tmpgenc that will fix it But you can try to "FrameServe" the file with "Virtual Dub", this might work...

i have gotten the 'index of scan line out of range' error message several times and have been able to resolve the problem each time with success! first of all make sure your using the project wizard for your project so that when you get to the file output of the project wizard page-check the 'create another project' button-then click ok-then the 1st page of the wizrad pops up just cancel it out-what this does is add your project to the batch encode list-located in the file menue of TMPGEne. Ok so you gotten the error message-simply go to file menue and choose batch encode and you will see your project in there-simply choose run and let TMPGEne re-process your project all over again and with any luck you want get that error message again:)

When backing up an anamorphic DVD I pick 16:9 in the first screen and leave the the other bit at full frame (Not keep aspect ratio) and the result seems to be an anamorphic SVCD on my 16:9 TV but if I pick 'keep aspect ratio' I get a normal widescreen image.
Is this correct or am I mistaken.
Many thanks

Could anyone please advise me on how to encode divx to mpeg on order to convert them to VCD format .

I had this working, but I seem to get the following error messege :

file "c:document/mydocument/*.* .avi cannot open or unsupported"

does any1 know or can instruct me on how to check my setting maybe they are wrong.

I use vitual dub for the sound and that works no problem but when I select Video Source (even in the wizard) then select a Divx movie this messge appears., howver it seems to work on certain file that are rubish avi's and not divx quality. than if you could Help.

Destiny.
akaid.quyam@ntlworld.com

go to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the "Direct Show" to "2"...

How do I convert a windows media player vidoe clip into a vcd??

What is a "Windows Media Player Clip"????Actually there is no Such thing..Might you Be Talking about a "WMV" File??(Windown Media Video/Audio Format)"WMV" file are encoded Just like any other format you load the file in then choose your settings then encode..If you get an Unsupported Error then you have to go to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the "Direct Show" to "2"..If I"m off bace here Explain to use your Problem and the real format of your file...

Hello - I've been using TMPG for years and for some reason, I've never had to use the batch feature. Well now, I'd like to take a series of non-mpeg files, and convert them into mpeg-1 files. I've played around and searched, but I'm stuck. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Ry.

Well Tmpgenc has only been around for about 18 months give or take...To Do a Batch job You just Do the settings for your first file then go to "File" to "Save Project" and save a Project file, then Repeat as nescessary, then when you got all of your project files ready you go to "File" to "Batch Encode" then load all the Project files into the Batch encode window then click "Run"..That is it...

I' ve tried this good software to convert AVI file into MPEG1 videofile.
The quality of image is very good.
My problem is that is a very long process.
I use a Pentiun III with 500Mhz processor with NT4.0.
Acquisition Pal video card is a FAST AVMaster that generate a video file in FAST AV Master codec (32). This file is seen by tmpgenc software an AVI file in this machine.
For the quality that I'm serching for, I use the highest mode (veryslow). In this mode one minute of video is about to 2 hours of rendering. It is a very long process.

I've tried to render this file in an other machine (a P4 2Ghz), but tmpgenc software tell me that is a file not supported.

To avoid this I' ve exported the AV Master file in a Indeo5.11 avi file (1 hour for a minute same dimensions 768x576 and the highest quality).
In this way, P4 machine keeps 40 minutes rendering for a minute of video with tmpgenc.

In wich way can I directly compress FAST AVMaster file with tmpng software in the P4 machine?
I mean, are there particular set parameters or special drivers/patchs to install in the P4 machine for save rendering time?

Can anyone helpe me?

Thank you

Ital

First you need to find which codec was used for the avi, you probally do have it installed on the P4 machine. Switch to high quality instead of highest, you will notice any difference in quality but will encode twice as fast.
In order to speed up the process(since you have a slow machine), turn off on background applications and processes that you don't need. Make sure you have defragged recently.Change your paging file to double the size of your RAM.

also in TMpegnc change to priority in Direct show to 2

and finally extract the audio(with Virtual Dub) to a wav to use as the audio source in Tmpegnc

There is definately something wrong if it takes 40minutes to do 1 minute of AVI to Mpeg on a P-4, It shouldn"t take more than 2 minutes to do 1 minute of video in a P-4 On High Quality..and to get Rid of the "Unsupported" Error on the P-4 go to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins"a dn raise the "Direct show" to "2"...

When I select the Video Source (DivX file) I seem to get the following error message showing up:

" can not open or unsupported " this show the file name begore that message appears. However this never used to promt me.

Can any1 help please ?

thanks
Akaid
Destiny

"Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and raise the "Direct show" to "2"...

This board is great - maybe someone can help me with a problem that has been nagging me for awhile --

I go through a VOB file --> DVD2AVI ---> TMPGENC ---> 29.97 fps VCD process to reencode my DVD captures (from a DVD recorder) to VCD. When I look at the results in VirtualDub - it's obvious that the video has been telecined since there is a mixed frame every 4 frames or so. Most of the video I'm processing is animated stuff.

So then I went back and used the inverse-telecine function on TMPENC (using normal VCD (not film VCD) template, that is, 30 fps) and the mixed frames go away and the resultant video looks good to me. Everything that I've read so far says that if you use inverse-telecine, you should be encoding at 24 fps (film VCD) not 30 fps. But I want 30 fps NTSC video because I want to be able to swap clips with other people and I want good DVD player compatibility.

I'd like some advice on the best thing to do to get 30 fps NTSC video.
(A) Should I just leave the inverse-telecine function alone. The playback with the encodes that contain the mixed frames doesn't seem that bad to me but maybe others will think it sucks. The only way I can tell is to look at the video frame by frame.
(B) Should I use inverse-telecine but use the 30 fps template. It seems OK but there might be some drawback that I'm not aware of. I read that the video could be "jumpy" but I haven't seen that.
(C) Should I do something else

thanks

I believe you need to a 3:2 Pulldown to convert from 24 to 30,
I use the force film setting in DVD2AVI to encode to film, but if you dont use that just load the VCD template for NTSC(not NTSC Film)

You seem to have got some wires crossed here.

Let me explain what IVTC is. IVTC is a process of reversing telecined footage which has had 3:2 pulldown added to create a 29.97 interlaced movie.
IVTC will return this 29.97 movie back to it's original 23.976 progressive source.

The reason for this is that progressive sources do not suffer from interlacing artifacts and are easier to encode.

The best way to acheive this is to use the ForcedFilm option with DVD2AVI. This will return a 29.97 interlaced movie back to a 23.97 progressive movie.

Once you have done this you then use the '3:2 pulldown when playback' option in TMPG, but this option only works for MPEG2 not MPEG1. Choose the 'SuperVideoCD (NTSCFilm).mcf' and all the correct options for turning a 23.97 source into a 29.97 will be set for you.

Regarding the fact you are attempting to convert to MPEG1 VCD you cannot use the 3:2 pulldown option so IVTC is pointless therefore the best option is to simply leave the source at 29.97 and just re-encode using the same framerate, but de-interlace the source.

This will remove artifacts and should give a reasonable image quality when re-encoded.

ASHY

Yes, I may have wires crossed :) but ...

when I used the de-interlace option, the mixed frames were still apparent

I don't want a 24 fps video, I want 30 fps -

I just wanted to mention that if I don't use "force film" in DVD2AVI and use the standard VCD template for encoding (except selecting the inverse-telecine option) is seems to make a very nice VCD compliant video with the mixed frames gone. But, since my wires are crossed, I wanted to know what the negative effects of this was. For instance, would the video be "jumpy" because inverse-telecine is removing every fourth or fifth frame? It didn't appear so when I looked at the video.

Having said all of that, I really don't mind the mixed frames being in the video. It doesn't appear to significantly affect the quality. But some guy I was swapping files with was highly critically of those frames being in the video - so I wanted to try to produce a better product.

thanks

If you use IVTC and return the movie back to 24 fps then encode to 30 fps you will surely have jerky playback, most noticible in panning shots.

The 24 fps movie will play fine, but because TMPG does not do correct framerate conversion the playback of the 30 fps MPEG WILL be jerky.

As far as the de-intelacing goes I would like to know which option you used as I don't think you de-interlaced correctly as there should have been no interlaced frames apparant.

ASHY

To clarify and make sure I understand this myself:

Film material is stored on most commercial DVDs at 29.97fps but contains "repeat field flags". This looks like interlaced video to low priced players but allows progressive players to easily recover the original frames without relying on adaptive inverse 3:2 pulldown which is inherently error prone .

DVD2AVI in "forced film" mode also uses "repeat field flags" to delete the unecessary fields and output the true original video at 23.976fps.

We simply need to reverse the process when reencoding in TMPG and this is where the "3:2 pulldown when playback" setting comes in. It says to encode progressively at 23.976fps but repeat fields to pad the result up to 29.97 and insert the flags. No need to mess with anything in the "Advanced" menu.

If the original material was from analog capture or is missing the repeat field flags, use DVD2AVI->VFAPIConv to serve the material into Virtualdub for adaptive inverse 3:2 pulldown (Frame Rate... menu). Or use TMPG's "Advanced" function (if you can figure it out). NEVER deinterlace 29.97 film material. Two of five frames end up irreversably munged.

One note ATI Radeon AIW owners doing analog capture: Realtime MPEG capture has an "Inverse Telecine" option which I originally thought was broken because it produced 29.97fps. But it actually does a nearly flawless insertion of repeat field flags! Laser Disc material, captured at 15Mbs, and reencoded as described above to DVD bitrates produce amazing results.