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Question TE25 2.11:1 Aspect Ratio and 24 fps Question Jonnypiano 1 2002-09-28 13:58:51
Question TE25 NTSC audio always out of sync Marc 2 2002-09-29 09:30:30
Question TE25 How to encode 800 + 608 MPEG2 in TMPGENC?? Drekk 4 2002-09-29 09:20:54
Bug report TE25 HELP! Can't convert audio of MPEG-2 --> MPEG with TMPGEnc Plus FunkyMan 1 2002-09-28 04:23:26
Question TE25 99% done and error ashley 1 2002-10-03 12:49:46
Question TE25 NTSC to PAL, possible? Greedle 7 2002-09-28 17:02:37
Question TE25 Freezed during encoding!? help me! KBCL 1 2002-09-28 15:29:25
Question TE25 MPEG4 v3 support? IGx89 3 2002-09-28 04:03:32
Question TE25 error saying file is not supported but previously worked clathem 1 2002-09-27 22:43:23
Question TE25 Beat Video Quality Jin 1 2002-09-27 22:40:41
Question TE25 Interlacing lines....helllllp wez 1 2002-09-27 18:00:33
Question TE25 Video card DIVX 3 2002-09-27 23:31:55

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Question - TE25 - 2.11:1 Aspect Ratio and 24 fps Question No.28737
Jonnypiano  2002-09-28 12:08:51 ( ID:llkq183uyem )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have more questions than the subject actually states. Here is my query.

I want to film in the 2.11:1 Aspect Ratio (NOT recording bands, just using Aspect Ratio Guidelines in the viewfinder) and film in 40 fps. I then, using TMPGEnc want to refine the colour, the edges, and convert to telecine (24fps). I also want the film to be in the 2.11:1 aspect ratio.

First question is this. Do I already have to have the video in the 2.11.1 aspect ratio (with the wide bands already on the video), or, does TMPGEnc add the wide bands itself, OR, does it simply compress the image into the 2.11.1 aspect ratio (which would require me to record in the 2.11:1 ratio, to prevent the image from being squashed out of proportion, which my camcorder cannot do)?

Second query. I tried to encode and MPEG2 file using TMPGEnc. I changed all the settings that I needed to change (convert to telecine, 650mb Disc, sharpen edges, refine colour, etc), and then began the encoding. I clicked on 'File', 'Save', then saved it as a .tpr file. I cannot open this file with any program. How do I encode an MPEG2 file to MPEG1, so I can burn it onto a CD using Nero?

I do have an alternative, and that is to download a patch for Nero which enables it to burn MPEG2 files. However, I want to be able to use TMPGEnc to do video enhancements such as frame rate conversion, colour refinement, and if necessary, this business with the 2.11:1 ratio. I don't want to record in 24 fps because my camcorder keeps the shutter open too long, making the image very blurred.

I may be wrong, but when you change the aspect ratio in the settings before encoding, is this just so that TMPGEnc can squash the image into the correct ratio? Only, when I did change the aspect ratio, the image didn't seem to change when it was encoding. So, my idea is that you have to be filming in the 2.11:1 aspect ratio in the first place for this setting alteration to be necessary.

I've tried to explain everything best I can, I hope you understand it. The main problem is that when I've encoded the file, it saves as a .tpr file, which I can't open or burn. How do I encode as an MPEG1 file, which I can burn?

Thanks

Jonny


ASHY  2002-09-28 13:58:51 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

There are a few things I don't understand what you mean here.

If you want to maintain correct 2.11.1 aspect ratio then you are going to have to film in 2.11.1, but if it is only the output you want as 2.11.1 then just change the output ratio to 2.11.1 and the input ratio to whatever ratio you have filmed in.
So for example if you have filmed in 16:9 then the input ratio needs to be 16:9 and the output 2.11.1, but I don't understand what the point would be of doing this.

Secondly I don't understand what you mean by convert to 24 fps telecine. Telecine is a process of adding extra frames to a film to make it run for the same length of time, but at a higher frame rate. A typical and common example is 3:2 pulldown which converts 24 fps to 30 fps.
24 fps is just a framerate it doesn't necessarily mean it has been telecined.

To convert 40 fps to 24 fps you would have to use a process called IVTC which does the opposite of Telecine, but I wouldn't think it would be possible to do this with IVTC because you haven't used any sort of pulldown in the first place which can be reversed.

The only way really is to do a framerate conversion and TMPG does not do framerate conversion very well, the result will be jerky playback.
Your best bet for this would be AVIsynth which can do a proper framerate conversion and the results are usually pretty good.

Next I don't understand why you are creating a .tpr project file.
You must realise that when you create this file, which only takes a second to create, that you haven't actually encoded anything.
Encoding is a lengthy process and takes more than a split second to do. The file you have created is just a project file which stores all the settings you have created for your movie so you can use it another time or with another compatible program.

To encode from MPEG2 to MPEG1 you will first need the right MPEG2 codec to open the file and then either load the VCD template or set TMPG up yourself. When your happy with the settings just click start in the top left of the main window and the encoding will begin.

The last staement I will make is forget about using NERO to encode. It is an awful encoder and nowhere near as good as TMPG.
I think you need to take a trip over to VCDhelp.com for some tutorials and info how to set TMPG up to encode.

ASHY





Question - TE25 - NTSC audio always out of sync No.28734
Marc  2002-09-28 09:09:17 ( ID:m8b9qxujdzn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hi,

I've converted loads of AVI's to MPEG (mostly 23.976 or 25 fps). When I try to convert a NTSC movie (I keep it NTSC), the audio in the converted file is always out of sync. I work always with separate AVI's and WAV audio files (ripped them with VirtualDub). 23.976 or 25 fps movies will never give this problem. Do you have suggestions?

Thanks,

Marc


Snake  2002-09-29 09:18:13 ( ID:khsoibseztw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I had this problem what is happening is while you are converting the video to pal the sound is still in ntsc to fix this do the following :-

in vetual dub set audio to full processing mode then goto file and save as wav
this will save the sound uncompressed

then get besweet and the besweet gui
set input file filename.wav and output file to filename.mp2
set it to ntsc to pal (for more info on this got to http://doom9.org/)

then load avi as Video Source mp2 as Audio Source in tmpgenc.

Hope this helps


Minion  2002-09-29 09:30:30 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

He isn"t Converting from Pal to Ntsc or Ntsc to pal he is just saying that he only has sync problems with 29.9fps NTSC Files but not with 23.9FPS or 25FPS Pal files...



Question - TE25 - How to encode 800 + 608 MPEG2 in TMPGENC?? No.28729
Drekk  2002-09-28 03:13:08 ( ID:lltxir4nf/g )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Please, this is urgent, we are producing a 800 x 608 mpeg2. It is possible to produce it with Final Cut Pro 3 and it's possible to view it with WinDVD4. But the main problem now is that i have separate audio and video files, and i want to "introduce" the audio into the mpeg2 video files. How the hell can I do it? it would be possible with tmpgenc BUT 800x600 RESOLUTION is not allowed!!!! Help, please!!!!


Minion  2002-09-28 04:27:13 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You just need to use the "Multiplex" in the Mpeg tools..Go to "file" to "mpeg tools" to "Simple Multiplex" load in your audio and your video file and click Run" then it will merge the audio to the video..Remember the audio has to be "Mp2"..


ASHY  2002-09-28 15:19:22 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

>How the hell can I do it? it would be possible with tmpgenc BUT 800x600 RESOLUTION is not allowed!!!!

No but 800x608 is if you change the profile level to MP&HL.

ASHY


Snake  2002-09-29 09:15:00 ( ID:khsoibseztw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Sorry But I beg to differ,, i had this problem what is happening is while you are converting the video to pal the sound is still in ntsc to fix this do the following :-

in vetual dub set audio to full processing mode then goto file and save as wav
this will save the sound uncompressed

then get besweet and the besweet gui
set input file filename.wav and output file to filename.mp2
set it to ntsc to pal (for more info on this got to http://doom9.org/)

then load avi as Video Source mp2 as Audio Source in tmpgenc.

Hope this helps


Snake  2002-09-29 09:20:54 ( ID:khsoibseztw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

SORRY ignor the above post by me clicked the wrong reply,, gonna be one of those days i guess,, admins please delete this 2 posts. thanks



Bug report - TE25 - HELP! Can't convert audio of MPEG-2 --> MPEG with TMPGEnc Plus No.28727
FunkyMan  2002-09-28 02:23:26 ( ID:.a4bp9aqk7c )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

HELP!

I just got the trial version of TMPGEnc Plus 2.54 and I'm having a problem. I want to convert an SVCD to a VCD (MPEG-2 --> MPEG-1).

When I open the Video Source as the MPEG-2 file, the Audio Source stays blank. When I try to convert it, I can convert video but not audio.

When I try to manually select the MPEG-2 as the Audio Source it says file format not supported.

What's going on? Help Help!

FunkyMan


Minion  2002-09-28 04:23:26 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Tmpgenc is trying to tell you something!!!Why encode the audio??it is allready in the correct format for VCD..So go to "File" to "Mpeg Tools" to "Simple De-multiplex" load in your Mpeg2 file then click "Run" it will seperate the audio from the video, then you just encode the video to mpeg1 then use the "Mpeg tools "Simple-multiplex" to join the audio from the mpeg2 with the video from the mpeg1...Tmpgenc does not like to encode compressed audio formats and Mpeg audio is a Very compressed format..You would probably have to extract the audio to a wav file if you were encodeing an AVI file...



Question - TE25 - 99% done and error No.28725
ashley  2002-09-28 01:59:43 ( ID:xaagdma.afc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

write error occurred at address 004028A9 of module 'TMPGENC.EX' w/00901810

this came up after i converted avi to mpeg at 99% done
what does this mean and how do i fix it?


sei baba  2002-10-03 12:49:46 ( ID:hopuwio3fbn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I've exactly the same problem.
write error occurred at address...of module 'TMPGENC.EXE' with ...
the numbers are different, but it always pops up at 99% (avi 2 mpeg/SVCD).
I tried different VFAPI plugs (AVI2/Direct Show) and it did't make a difference.
Though the converted video seems to be o.k.,nero complains when trying to burn a SVCD, that the data-encoding is invalid for SVCD.
When I turn off the standard-compatibility the size of the videofile is changing from 800 MB to 900 MB. Burning it on a CD-R 99 works on my DVD, but this suckers are expensive.
Any help would be appreciated....



Question - TE25 - NTSC to PAL, possible? No.28717
Greedle  2002-09-28 01:19:30 ( ID:3hfvmug6ijm )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Can I convert:
NTSC 29.970 fps (or) NTSC film 23.976 fps >>>> PAL 25.000 fps

Is this possible? My TV don't support NTSC VCD's.

Is PAL 25 fps, or is it 24fps that is speeded in playback?



Thank you, if anyone wice guy helps me with my problem.


Minion  2002-09-28 04:17:04 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Yes and No,The best way that I know of is to use a Program called ProCoder to Convert the NTSC avi file into a Pal avi file then encode it to mpeg..There is a Way to take a 23.9FPS file and convert it to 25FPS, but it is a Bit tricky, it involves changeing the frame rate to 25FPS but then the audio will be a couple minutes per hour Faster than the Video so you have to use a Audio editing program like Sound Forge to shrink the audio file by makeing it play faster so it fits with the Video..But as you can probably tell it is Quite tricky..But then again to purchase ProCoder costs around $700, so you take it from there..There is a cheaper program called "Advanced NTSC/PAL converter" that is supposed to do a pretty good job..


ASHY  2002-09-28 14:35:46 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Or you can use AVIsynth which does a pretty good job and is free and quite simple to use once you get the hang of it.
You should also be able to find examples of the script you would need to do this conversion with AVIsynth if you go to the videtools.net site and have a look at the guides.
Here is an example script which you use to do NTSC>PAL conversion using an MPEG2 file and DVD2AVI:

AVISource("C:NTSC_clip.avi")
Bob
ConvertFPS(50)
SeparateFields().SelectEvery(4,0,3)
return Weave()

Note: the movie source must be at least 480 pixels in height for this to work properly.

Then just load the file into TMPG and encode as normal.

ASHY



ASHY  2002-09-28 14:36:52 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

The above adress should be www.videotools.net

ASHY


ASHY  2002-09-28 14:39:01 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

>Here is an example script which you use to do NTSC>PAL conversion using an MPEG2 file and DVD2AVI:

Ignore this line it doesn't apply. I changed the script when I re-read your post and realised you were most probably using AVI files.

ASHY


Minion  2002-09-29 01:27:23 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

ThanX Ashy it"s good to know that AviSynth has a feature like that...I"ll have to try it sometime...


Greedle  2002-09-29 02:20:43 ( ID:3hfvmug6ijm )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks ASHY. :)

Yes I'm using DivX AVI (MPEG-4) movies, not DVD (MPEG-2) movies.

I will try that AVIsynth and try to learn to use it.


howiesil  2002-09-28 17:02:37 ( ID:/bsvjpbdc7g )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I had the same problem with crashing. I renamed mp43dmod.dll to mp43dmod.dlo and was able to use TMPEnc. I noticed no difference in Media Player 9 with any files.



Question - TE25 - Freezed during encoding!? help me! No.28715
KBCL  2002-09-28 00:07:28 ( ID:djr6tsaxvkw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I am using TMPGEnc to convert a .avi file to VCD file

Does matter how many times I tried, the TMPGE just get really slow after encoded to 25%.(after 25%, it takes 30 mins to encode 1 second of avi file)
I waited for about 7 hours and finally done 27%, when I watch it, it gets a black screen after 25%. So that means TPMGE stops working after 25%
The avi file works fine when I play it with Window Media player.

Can anyone plz help me?


ASHY  2002-09-28 15:29:25 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Try changing the priority of the directshow multimedia file reader to 2 under the VFAPI plugins.

ASHY



Question - TE25 - MPEG4 v3 support? No.28711
IGx89  2002-09-27 23:09:57 ( ID:gb5.k0fv0m. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

How can I get TmpGEnc to load a MPEG4 v3 file? The file plays fine in WMP9


Minion  2002-09-27 23:25:23 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

There shouldn"t be any problem encodeing Mpeg4 files..You just might need to raise the priority of the direct show file reader..go to "options" to "enviromental settings" to "Vfapi plugins" and raise the "Direct show file reader"...


IGx89  2002-09-28 01:20:45 ( ID:gb5.k0fv0m. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I actually did try that, but then TmpGEnc crashes when I load the avi file, in dll mp43dmod.dll :(.


Minion  2002-09-28 04:03:32 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

That error most likely means that the codec that is decodeing the file for tmpgenc is crashimg it...there could either be a codec problem or a problem reading your file..Try useing Virtual dub and try to frame serve it to tmpgenc...



Question - TE25 - error saying file is not supported but previously worked No.28709
clathem  2002-09-27 22:21:10 ( ID:00rgpqgzqz6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

i have extracted video and audio from a file, and am using TPMGEnc to put it together. It worked fine for me the first time, but now i get error messages saying the video file is unsupported. I can use the MPEG Tools Under File.. MPEG Tools to do a simple multiplex without a problem. Could someone give me an idea of what my problem may be? Like I said it was working fine, and then just stopped. Thanks in advance for your help!

Chris


Minion  2002-09-27 22:43:23 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I guess from you Post that you are trying to encode a Mpeg2 file to a Mpeg1/2 file???If this is true You can allways use DVD2AVI to make a D2V file from the Mpeg file and encode the D2V file to mpeg, then after encodeing Multiplex the audio with the encoded Video...



Question - TE25 - Beat Video Quality No.28707
Jin  2002-09-27 20:45:21 ( ID:r.o1gyof2bc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I'm ripping a VCD and them getting an MPEG but the MPEG is not compatible with the program Im using DVDit so I have to TMPEG it. but I have a feeling the quality is being lost to do this and I have to use a MPEG1 formate to work with this program what would be the best codes to use to keep the quality cause it seems like the video quality is fading and what would you think would be the best codes for MPEG1 or MPEG2 quality period.


Minion  2002-09-27 22:40:41 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I don"t have a total grasp of what you are trying to say but re-encodeing a File will allways loose some Quality ,It can not be avoided..Useing a Higher bitrate will give you a picture that is closer to the original picture than if useing a Lower bitrate...I didn"t know that DVDit did VCD"s...



Question - TE25 - Interlacing lines....helllllp No.28705
wez  2002-09-27 16:51:39 ( ID:cts0b298yqw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Ok, I have tryed all the options to remove the interlacing lines from my video footage, and it is never any different, Question, I only have the trial version of tmpg, (which is a good job if this doesn't work), is the trial version restricted in any way ?, Why can I not remove this Interlace problem, this is the only thing now stopping me from buying the software, apart from that it's the best encoder ive used.

N E help ????


wcpaul  2002-09-27 18:00:33 ( ID:q7gr550x3gw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

My favorite subject. Here are things to consider:

- If goal is to author for settop player and TV viewing, leave it interlaced but make sure the source page in tmpgenc has the correct top/bottom field order setting.

- If goal is to watch on a computer with DVD player software consider that they have pretty decent deinterlacing which may be acceptable. The artifact is far less noticeable than processing tools which display the raw merged frame. Forget about using Media Player, it does no deinterlacing and does not display a proper aspect ratio for 720x480 video.

- If pristine stop frame appearance is needed, use Virtualdub. The builtin deinterlace/blend followed by mild sharpening is great for low motion material. The add-on plugin, "Smart Deinterlace", with motion threshold set very low is great at interpolating a single, crisp frame from two fields with a lot of motion. Follow this with a smoother if it has artifacts.

- If the video is deinterlaced, always set the output format to "non-interlace" otherwise settop players may not frame step through the material properly.



Question - TE25 - Video card No.28701
DIVX  2002-09-27 16:33:14 ( ID:afpfwczoozl )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have a question regarding video cards. I buying yet another new system, and was advised to spend an extra 220.00 on a better video card. Both cards are 64mb nVidia. Would a better card make the encoding go faster? If I'm spending the money is it best to do it on memory or processor?


Steven


Minion  2002-09-27 22:36:27 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

A Video card will have little or no effect at all when it comes to encodeing..what you need for fest encodeing is a Fast prosessor and a whack of ram helps too...


DIVX  2002-09-27 23:01:43 ( ID:afpfwczoozl )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

How much memory would you suggest. I have systems with pc800 ram. It costs a lot of $$$$$$ . I'm using downloaded movies (AVI) 700mb . Would that suggest that I should have at least 700mb in ram too?

Steven


Minion  2002-09-27 23:31:55 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Ram isn"t as in portant as Prosessor power..Usually 256-512mb should be fine..I use PC2100-DDR and it is the same price as PC133-sdr were I live..Tmpgenc isn"t the fastest encoder around and if you are just looking for fast encodeing speed then it might be cheaper to just use a faster encoder...And I would sugest not useing Downloaded movies cuz they cause a lot of problems like Corupted files incorect frame rates audio sync problems uncompatible audio formats and wierd resolutions and they aren"t the best Quality..Get a DVD-Rom and rip DVD"s and you will get the best Quality with out the problems that come with downloaded movies...



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