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Hi I am having a problem with the file size of a SVCD I am trying to create.
Firstly I captured 1 hour of video from my Dazzle DVCII in mpeg2. The captured file size is 3.6Gb.
I am now trying to encode it down to standard SVCD using tmpgenc 12a. My settings are as follows.
Standard PAL SVCD template
Changed constant bitrate to constant Quality
Left bitrate at 2520
Video source - interlaced and field order A
Search acuracy set to highest
Now it encodes in approx 15mins (not long I thought for 1GHz PIII 256DDR)
but the file size comes in at 3.5Gb?
I have tried using both just the captured file and demultiplexed video and audio files in the source to no difference.
Please help as this SVCD file size can't be right!
Ther seems like there is something definately wrong first off the encodeing should take much longer like about 2 hours at least with the highest quality on my 1.7ghz a hour of svcd on the highest quality takes about 2.5hours,and the file size is more than 3 times as big as it should be ,so what I would sugest is to de-mux your captured mpeg file and load the video into "dvd2avi" and make a "D2V" file and then load the d2v file into tmpgenc then encode just the video then you mux the audio from the original mpeg with the encoded D2V file, this should work and the quality should be pretty good also........
The problem is you haven't encoded the file at all, but simply made an exact copy.
The reason is because you are using version 12a.
What you seem to have misunderstood is that even though this version can encode to MPEG2. It cannot open MPEG2 files. To do this you will have to install an MPEG2 codec.
When using 12a and you load the MPEG2 into TMPG it will simply load the file into the Video and audio boxes and then just remux the audio and video files back together as the output.
This is why it is the same size and it was so quick to encode.
You will notice that you will see this: mux:// before the file name in the 'Video' box. This indicates your file is going to be muxed not encoded.
Hi again I've just had a think and my maching has Power DVD installed so should already have a mpeg2 codec installed I think?
Running XP and can't find a list of the codecs, no problem with 98 but Hmmm where is it.
Go here for the codec, but be aware this will only work for version 2.66 or below due to the new way the new version handles codecs.
www.plmovies.com/mpeg2codec_installer.zip
I just purchased a license for TMPGenc, downloaded the latest version, installed it and it works fine on VCD settings but when I encode MPG-2 for SVCD it comes up with no audio. I have tried it with several DIVX encoded AVI's which were checked and found to be fine. I also tried them through software and hardware DVD players.
Am I missing a CODEC for MPG-2 that I am unaware of?
The problem probably is that the audio format in your divx files is not supported in Tmpgenc, wav format is the best to encode with tmpgenc so you will need to extract the audio from your divx/avi file with "virtual dub" to a wav files then use the wav file for your audio source in tmpgenc....
I thougt that in a future version maybe there could be an option to add selectable subtitles to a SVCD-file. Just an idea i had because those very few programs that can actually do that is in early versions and not working properly or to advanced to use. Hope it will come...
This is probably a lame question (not the audio encoder lame), but when I am encoding SVCDs fron Divx (avi) files, sometimes quality is the most important factor and I let it go for 3 CDs worth.
There are other times when I wouldn't mind making the quality is little less and having it take up 2, 80 minutes CDs.
What do I need to set in Tmpgenc for 2 80 minutes CDs ?
You should be able to fit 90-120 minutes on 2 cd-r"s in svcd format without much trouble.I suppose you are just useing the svcd template? or you wouldn"t be asking how to make your files smaller, ok, last night i did 2 48 minute svcd"s and they were each about 750mb and the quality was great.The settings were useing the CQ(Constant Quality)with a maximum bitrate of 4500kbs and a minimum bitrate of 750kbs and the quality at 85, with these settings you should be able to get 50 minutes of svcd on a cd-r and if you want to get more try putting the quality down to 80 then you might get close to 55-60minutes.and putting the audio bitrate down to 128kbs will give you more space for video without looseing noticeable audio quality..
Yes I am just using the SVCD template. The answer is yes, I use the templates which come with Tmpgenc, but make a change or 2 for high quality(slow) and to use full screen (keep aspect ratio).
Am I reading too much into your reply that might be saying that there are some custom templates that might do what I want to do or are "better" than the ones that come with the software ?
Yes and No, you do not need to use a template to encode, i usually don"t or use one then change the settings, or you can make your own Templates, the Templates are Pre-defined settings that exactly match the Specifications for that format meaning the svcd templates are for makeing standard compliant svcd files, the thing is that most dvd/vcd players will play svcd/vcd"s that are out of specifications, some more than others, some players will let you play a mpeg movie with a resolution of 704 by 480 with a bitrate of 5000kbs and some won"t let you change the bitrate or resolution at all, but most allow for some augmentation of the svcd/vcd specification, to find out what your dvd player will play go to "http://www.vcdhelp.com/ and they have a section on dvd players and what they are compatible with, this is stuff the manual won"t tell you..ok, to change the settings you might have to load the "unlock.mfc" template from the "extra" folder after you load the svcd template and after you are done with the settings and you want to save them as a template just go to the "save" button in the bottom right of the tmpgenc screen then name your template and thats it you have made a template....good luck
Make sure you have all the Tmpgenc files in the same folder then you can try copy and pasteing the "p3p package.dll" to the "system" and "system32" folder and this should work......
The best thing to do instead of waiting for the "merge & cut" to work is to use a different mpeg editor, you can download a few at http://www.apachez.net
and go to the Tools section and there are a few mpeg editors there for download......
when i was using simple multipex in the mpeg tools option, i was trying to make my svcd file to have a vcd file to trick my standalone dvd player but ive been getting error windows saying "streaming error" or "this is not safe to play in a dvd player or something like that".
Was the error something like "****** number of packets caused buffer underflow, the mpeg might cause errors when played"??? When you are Multiplexing Tmpgenc analizes the mpeg stream cuz it realignes the packets, so instead of putting your svcd file into the Multiplexor load the svcd file into the "Merge & cut" choose "mpeg1/vcd non-standard from the dropdown menu then choose your output directory then click run.It will put a vcd header on your file without analizeing the mpeg stream and there for should not give you the error...
Maybe your source AVI isn't in multiples of 8 which means your horizontal and vertical resolution need to be in a multiple of 16 otherwise the movie will cause an error because the size is illegal.
Have a look at the resolution in Virtualdub and if it isn't a multiple of 16 then alter the movie so it is then frameserve it to TMPG.
i get this dialog box too, allways with other two numbers ... but when i often restart the batch job the dialog box doesn't appear ??? and it converts the video?!?
wihen i ever try to create a VCD video out of a divx file, i notice when you convert it to a 29.5 NSTC(or whatever) the video resolution isnt really that great. is there any way to enhance the video and upgrade the quality of the origional video file or create a better one? i know you cant make a flawless VCD but and enhancment would be great. if someone knows how, please tell me.
You can make your VCD look allmost as good as your DivX, if you are useing the standard VCD Template you will notice Macro Blocks quite a bit cuz the standard VCD Bitrate isn"t High enough to eliminate the Blocks so you will notice quite a bit of improvement if you raise the Bitrate, if you raise it to about 1650kbs the image will be much better or better yet if you use the CQ encodeing method and raise the bitrate to 5000kbs max and 750kbs min and 85 quality you will notice quite a bit better quality and the file wont be that much bigger, you could probably get at least 60min on a cd-r..You can also use the color filters to adjust the image quality but this can make encodeing take much longer....good luck
PS: You will need to load the "unlock.mfc" template
before you can raise the bitrate...
Be sure to make an short clip first to see if your standalone player can handle the raised bitrate.
Every new encoding will decrease detail and possibly add artifacts.
I begin in data processing, in particular for encoder of films. I succeeded in passing from the DIVIX to the MPEG, but the problem, it is that I do not manage to obtain from sound.
Thank you for your assistance because I have really difficulties in find the solution.
The audio in the Divx file probably wasn"t supported in tmpgenc, you will need to extract the audio from the divx file to a wav file with "virtual dub" and use that as the audio source, but if the audio is AC3 then you will need to extract the audio with an AC3 decoder........
Using TMPGEnc (2.57), and using a .wav as source. The wav has sound in it and plays fine in all players. When I encode, the audio displays in TMPGEnc (in the source range configuration screen), but the final mpg does not have sound.
Previously wav audio was not even displaying, so I feel like I am making some progress :)
I have no idea why the wav file isn"t encodeing accept maybe you need to raise the priority of the "Wav file reader" but if you cant get tmpgenc to encode the audio you can use a different audio encoder to encode the audio to mp2, I use "DB Power amp" with the "mp2 codec" it is a free audio encoder and will encode your audio to vcd/svcd compliant mp2 audio files,you can also use differant audio encoders with Tmpgenc, the good ones are "Toolame" and "SCMPX" you can find them on a search engine and you install them in tmpgenc bu going to "options" to "enviromental settings" to "external tools" and then just browse for the encoders "exe" file and thats it...these encoders are much better than the one in tmpgenc.......