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Question TE25 2CD Divx Movie Equals 4 gigs of vcd?!?! WTF crittaz 4 2003-04-04 11:26:05
Question TE25 Convert Dvd File to other format QNGO 2 2003-04-03 22:07:24
Question TE25 no Sound loki 1 2003-04-03 22:04:42
Question TE25 picture washed out iknownothing 7 2003-04-08 20:28:41
Question TE25 Graphedit .wav -> TMPGEnc source problem acidrain 1 2003-04-03 22:00:44
Request TE25 pause function blank 1 2003-04-03 03:58:12
Question TE25 Tmpgenc and XP Stef 1 2003-04-02 11:42:19
Request TE25 YV12 support Boulder 1 2003-04-02 11:48:07
Question TE25 Tmpgenc and XP Stef 2 2003-04-02 13:16:48
Question TE25 all of a sudden i can't convert??? jasmine 5 2003-04-04 18:27:40
Question TE25 n00b question ShadowRune 1 2003-04-03 04:02:11
Question TE25 What is the best setting for a "High Quality" VCD? Eric Jonson 4 2003-04-02 12:19:37

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Question - TE25 - 2CD Divx Movie Equals 4 gigs of vcd?!?! WTF No.36009
crittaz  2003-04-03 10:44:12 ( ID:yfxjzg.1hwa )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

ok.. i have a 2CD DVD rip of Empire Of The Sun.. In case it is needed, here are the codecs that it is using:

Video Codec: DivX 3 Low-Motion (Using DivX MPEG-4 DVD Video Decompressor)

Audio Codec: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3 (Using MPEG Layer-3 Decoder-->Morgan Stream Switcher)

Framerate: 23.976 FPS

CD1 - 711 MB
CD2 - 712 MB

Ok heres what happened when i try to convert CD1 to VCD.

Ok i just used the vcd NTSC Templater that comes with tMPGenc.
I switch the aspect ratio to "4:3 525 line (NTSC)"
I don't enable any filters. Then it says:
Movie Info: 352x24029.97 fps / 44100 Hz Stereo / 214 min 57 Sec
Video Resolution: 352x240
Average Video Bitrate: 1150
Audio Bitrate: 224
Estimated File Size: 2150.02 MB

I don't understand why this happened... i never had any problem converting any other files. I Have also tried to convert just the video file by itseld.. It still goes up to 1800 MB so i know it's not a video problem.
I know this was lengthy but i wanted to be as detailed as i could. If anyone had this problem before and knows how to fix it please help!!


crittaz  2003-04-03 11:02:18 ( ID:yfxjzg.1hwa )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

BTW i just wanted to point out that this movie is 2 hours and 20 minutes long...


Ashy  2003-04-03 20:39:44 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

The file size TMPG is giving you is absolutely bang on for VCD according to the length of the movie TMPG has detected.

Standard VCD bitrate encodes at 10mb/min. Your movie is according to TMPG is 215 mins long that would give a file size of 2150mb which is exactly what TMPG has estimated.

The file size of the original has absolutely nothing at all to do with the output size whatsoever. It is the length which affects the output.

Are you sure the movie is only 2hr 20 mins? If so this is the problem. Try using the source range to select the start and end points of your movie.

If that doesn't help just ignore what TMPG is telling and encode the movie anyway, it should only be 1400mb if the movie is 2hr 20min long.
You could try running the AVI through virtualdub using the direct stream copy option to try and correct the timecode or just frameserve it from Virtualdub.

ASHY



crittaz  2003-04-04 00:53:04 ( ID:yfxjzg.1hwa )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

yes im sure the movie is 2 hours 20 min long... 1 hour for each divx file.. well ill try wut u said and just try converting it anyway..


RobertB  2003-04-04 11:26:05 ( ID:awv3xllq6yr )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Same problem happend with me. Downloaded 2 DivX movies of 700 MB each and they result in a 4.4 GB Mpeg file. When I started cutting the Mpeg file the last changing image was exactly at the time the movie is supposed to end (142 minutes) and the rest is a static of the last frame. So I first cut off the static and then cut the rest in two for the 2 SVCD's or leave it for a DVD.
My problem is that I seem to be unable to get sound with the movie after creating a DVD-PAL project. 1 solved, 1 to go.

Robert



Question - TE25 - Convert Dvd File to other format No.36006
QNGO  2003-04-03 08:27:57 ( ID:s7a1tbem3.6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hi can any tell me how to convert dvd file (the vob file) to other format.
I have read the furom that they can't convert because of the subtitle or multiple audio, and video that why it can't convert.
I know that I can use dvd2avi to create a good file.
but that take to long to format.
I remember there is the old version of the TMPGenc that can convert dvd to other format.
What when wrong, my TMPGenc can't convert from dvd to other format anymore.
I still remember that I did convert a whole punch of DVd file to the SVCD file.
This is crazy.
Don't know how to solved this problem.
Please don't reply if you can't solved this problem.


Please don't um um um um
Thank you


Ashy  2003-04-03 21:02:50 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

>I have read the furom that they can't convert because of the subtitle or multiple audio, and video that why it can't convert.

What do you mean? You mean you can't use TMPG to encode directly from VOBS.

> know that I can use dvd2avi to create a good file.
but that take to long to format.

It only takes a few minutes to create a d2v project file and a wav file with DVD2AVI then just load both into TMPG and encode as normal, so what's the problem?

This is how most people do it without a problem, so obviously somewhere you are not doing it right.

Go here for instructions how to do it properly:
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/sefy/?id=ClassicalGuide.html#DVD2AVI

ASHY



Minion  2003-04-03 22:07:24 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You Probably made a AVI file with DVD2AVI and that is why it took you so long, Instead of going to "File" to "Save AVI" you go to "File" to "Save Project" and save a D2V project File and load that into Tmpgenc...



Question - TE25 - no Sound No.36004
loki  2003-04-03 07:48:46 ( ID:lctjdxsp7aa )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

if i encode some avi-file i have no sound at the resultfile.before i update the tmpgencoder to version 2.51 . And if i use other encoding-tools i have also no sound on the moviefile.


Minion  2003-04-03 22:04:42 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You Probably need to extract the audio from the AVI file and decode it to WAV, then use the WAV file to encode in Tmpgenc..Something like "AVI-Mux" works well for this...



Question - TE25 - picture washed out No.35996
iknownothing  2003-04-03 05:38:13 ( ID:j8ab0sbtbiw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

All of a sudden the picture quality in Tempgenc looks washed out and appears the same way after encoding and playing back. Maybe this has been addressed before but I couln't find it. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling.


Minion  2003-04-03 22:03:03 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

What do you mean By Washed out, has the Color Changed?? Maybe make sure you don"t have the "Angel Potion" Codec installed, this codec can cause Color distortion in Mpeg files on systems that have the codec installed....


Ken  2003-04-03 22:46:37 ( ID:vwbckrv5bmk )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

>All of a sudden the picture quality in Tempgenc looks washed out and appears the same way after encoding and playing back. Maybe this has been addressed before but I couln't find it. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling.

There is an option un the Quantize matrix sectiion that allows you to preserve the IRE of your source video.

Output basic YCbCr
Enabled
Generally, you should select this option; it will preserve the original contrast of your source footage. If your source footage is high-contrast computer-generated animation, disabling this option will ensure its brightness and saturation remain within "legal" video limits. Also, some DV codecs seem to automatically compensate for this difference between video signal and digital colour range, which will make the resulting output seem too dark. If you notice the MPEG file looks darker than the DV original (the difference will be something around 8%), try disabling this feature and see if that corrects the problem. I will try to test different DV codecs to determine which ones are affected by this.

Hope this helps

Ken


Ashy  2003-04-05 00:45:25 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

>Output basic YCbCr
>Enabled
>Generally, you should select this option

Well this all depends on the source and whether it not it has the required range also, if not like most AVI and the output is meant for TV it may become dark and the colours will not be displayed at the the correct ranges, blacks will become grey.

I would disagree and say CCIR601 is more suitable for most sources intended for TV to ensure the correct scale on the TV unless it is known the source has the full range.

I have tested this and have found on most occasions CCIR601 gives the closest representation as far as brigtness levels and saturation are concerned.

ASHY




iknownothing  2003-04-05 05:21:12 ( ID:cezm8qpe3bk )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thank all for replying. I still cannot get the picture to adjust to its original contrast setting. It still has the lack of contrast look no matter what mpg I load into it. I have tried all the various settings you have mentioned but nothing changed. The only other thing I have installed recently was DVDworkshop, ver1, but have since uninstalled it because it was giving me a kernel 32 error.
BTW..The mpgs play perfect in powerdvd.


Ashy  2003-04-05 13:36:15 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You can easily adjust the color settings by clicking the 'Simple color correction' filter under the 'Advanced' tab.

ASHY


iknownothing  2003-04-08 04:56:09 ( ID:cezm8qpe3bk )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Well, I adjusted the contrast settings in color correction and the picture improved about back to normal, so that was encouraging and it encoded fine. Now today, when I load files into TempGenc the picture came back to normal without any adjustments. I am clueless. Thanks again for the advice.


Ashy  2003-04-08 20:28:41 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

OK



Question - TE25 - Graphedit .wav -> TMPGEnc source problem No.35994
acidrain  2003-04-03 05:21:32 ( ID:ci6gsqlplch )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hey all, this is sort of a TMPGEnc question, but not exclusively.

I've been using Graphedit to convert .ogm's to .avi's, but lately I've been having problems, so what I did was split up the video and audio, in order to have TMPGEnc recombine them. What I did in Graphedit was name.ogm>ogg splitter>vorbis decoder>wav dest>name.wav. Now, the .wav file seems to play ok in Winamp, but when I choose it as my audio source file in TMPGEenc, I get the "...can not open, or unsupported" message. Is there another program that I have to run the .wav through, so TMPGEnc will recognize it? The audio codec in the original .ogm file is Ogg Vorbic, btw.

Thanks in advance!


Minion  2003-04-03 22:00:44 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You can try going to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the Priority of the "Wav File reader" , but if that doesn"t work then there Might be a Problem with the audio, maybe there isn"t a Proper Wav header in the File, Maybe try useing "Headac3e" to decode the Vorbis to Wav, "Headac3he" allways Makes Good Workable Wav files for me...



Request - TE25 - pause function No.35992
blank  2003-04-02 22:59:41 ( ID:mhqv6elmc5f )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Given the slowness of this whole process, it would be great if there were a way to pause an encoding project and continue it later. I of course haven't a clue as to how difficult such a thing would be to program!


Minion  2003-04-03 03:58:12 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You can pause it ,Sort of, You can press Stop and when it asks you to abort encodeing you just don"t answer and the you can go do something else and later come back to it and Press NO , then the encodeing will resume like usual.But you can"t shut down Tmpgenc your you computer till later and start it back up..



Question - TE25 - Tmpgenc and XP No.35990
Stef  2003-04-02 10:27:27 ( ID:zxrndaokv0a )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I am trying to test tmpgenc on my new system which is a P4 2.53Ghz with an adaptater Geforce4 32Mb with windows XP (SP 1)
I am using Divx 5.0.3
I am trying to encode a 70 minutes avi divx file into an mpeg
And it is very slow, tmpgenc says that it will take more than 22 hours (with noise reduction in high quality mode)
I try before on a P3 800Mhz and it takes less time (16 hours).
Is someone can help ?


Ashy  2003-04-02 11:42:19 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

This sounds about right for the settings you are using. I doubt it used to take less than 16 hours with these settings on your P3 800mhz. On my P4 1.9 it takes about 28 hrs to encode a 2 hr movie using those settings.

Is it really necessary to use Noise rsdeuction in 'high quality' mode? This will more than double the encoding time. Do you even have to use it at all. What is the source?

If you really do need to use a noise reduction filter, why not try Virtualdub or AVisynth's filters which are much faster than TMPG and frame serve.

Also remeber that using the 'Motion search precision' in 'High quality mode' will also increase the encode time. Using 'Highest' will dramatically increase the time with no visible benefit.

ASHY



Request - TE25 - YV12 support No.35988
Boulder  2003-04-02 10:03:48 ( ID:vgkf6vm9vda )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Now that Avisynth 2.5 is stable and there are a lot of filters that support YV12, would it be possible to add YV12 support in TMPGEnc? The speed increase would be huge (I'd estimate 20-35% faster) since there would be no need to convert to RGB24 in TMPGEnc and then convert back to YV12 for the final MPEG stream. This YV12->RGB24->YV12 conversion is obviously not necessary and does lower the quality too.


Ashy  2003-04-02 11:48:07 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Forget about this one? I'ts like banging your head against a wall.
I have asked this repeatedly many times now to no avail. Every time a new version comes out I hope for a re-write in the code which will use YUY2 decoding. I understand that this is a major thing to change in the code and is probably why support hasn't been added yet, but it's about time it was added.
I agree it would make a major increase in the speed and is one thing which is holding TMPG back.
Most codecs now support YUY2, so it's about time TMPG got with it and started supporting it.

ASHY



Question - TE25 - Tmpgenc and XP No.35985
Stef  2003-04-02 08:57:03 ( ID:zxrndaokv0a )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I am trying to test tmpgenc on my new system which is a P4 2.53Ghz with an adaptater Geforce4 32Mb with windows XP (SP 1)
I am using Divx 5.0.3
I am trying to encode a 70 minutes avi divx file into an mpeg
And it is very slow, tmpgenc says that it will take more than 22 hours (with noise reduction in high quality mode)
I try before on a P3 800Mhz and it takes less time (16 hours).
Is someone can help ?


Eric Jonson  2003-04-02 11:33:07 ( ID:llt.n6n320h )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Take a look at your "Task priority" of "Option".
"When active - High priority" should be checked.
And notice that the filter "Noice reduction" in high quality mode will
take lots of time if the resolution of the movie is high.


Stef  2003-04-02 13:16:48 ( ID:zxrndaokv0a )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I try it and it is the same .



Question - TE25 - all of a sudden i can't convert??? No.35979
jasmine  2003-04-02 08:18:52 ( ID:2lx3p27u3wg )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

this may sound weird... but usually i can always convert my files either if it's avi, asf/wmv or whatever to mpeg, but all of a sudden i can not convert most of my asf files... whats going on? everytime i try to convert an error pops up saying "TMPGEnc.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience" can anyone help me? i tried converting some of the asf files that i've already done in the past with success just to test it out and the same error pops out (when it didn't in the past). can anyone help? have anyone even ever encounter this? HELP please.


Ashy  2003-04-02 14:36:41 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Have you recently installed any software? For example any codecs or Mediaplayer9?

ASHY


jasmine  2003-04-03 05:50:18 ( ID:2lx3p27u3wg )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

actually yes... i just downloaded the recent windows media player... could that be it??? if this is the problem, what can i do????


Ashy  2003-04-03 21:08:10 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Roll back your system using sytem restore to a time befor you installed mediaplayer 9.

ASHY


jasmine  2003-04-04 03:23:45 ( ID:2lx3p27u3wg )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

okay i did that. the media player went back to the old version, but it's still not working... is there something else i'm suppose to do?


ed  2003-04-04 18:27:40 ( ID:wpihf4n0hjf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

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Question - TE25 - n00b question No.35977
ShadowRune  2003-04-01 23:34:05 ( ID:faempj5nqq6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hi. I just started working with this program today. When I try to run a AVI though it, it finishes in about 3 seconds even though the AVI is over 5 gigs. Also, the .mpg it makes is 2000 kbs or under each time. I looked through the FAQ and I could'nt find an answer, any help?


Minion  2003-04-03 04:02:11 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I don"t know what the Problem is but it seems that Tmpgenc doesn"t like your AVI file..Try encodeing a Different file and see if that works,and if it does you then know that it is the File..



Question - TE25 - What is the best setting for a "High Quality" VCD? No.35972
Eric Jonson  2003-04-01 18:59:02 ( ID:llt.n6n320h )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

As title, I tried many posibilities of settings on TMPGEnc to make the quality of my mpeg file(for burning VCD) can catch up with the VCD I bought, but I failed.

The following is the situation,
I watch the movies and they are just perfect.
I made two same 3D movies by trueSpace in AVI uncompressed format.
The resolution of the movies are 704 x 480 and 720 x 480.
I use TMPGEnc to encode these movies to VCD format after loaded "VideoCD (NTSC).mcf" file.
No filters and no setting has changed.
I also tried "Quantize Matrix" set to "CG/Animation".

The result is,
these mpeg files are suitable for VCD format, but terribly lost their qualities.
Saw-toothed and blurred frames made me disappointed.
I wish someone help me to solve this problem, and...
ANYBODY TELL ME CAN "TMPGEnc" ENCODE HIGH QUALITY VCD MOVIES LIKE
"20th FOX ANIMATION"(ALWAYS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVIES)?
Thanks a lot.


Eric Jonson  2003-04-01 19:08:32 ( ID:llt.n6n320h )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Plus one info.
The frame rate of 3D movies I made is 30 fps.


Minion  2003-04-01 23:01:54 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

There is No such thing as High Quality VCD"s, VCD is a Low Quality Format and makeing a Standard VCD will allways turn out with Blockyness especially when there is High Motion..The only way to achieve High Quality is to go out of the VCD Standard, the Bitrate is Way to low in a Standard VCD to achieve any sort of Quality so to increase the Quality you have to increase the Bitrate which in turn will give you less amount of Minutes on a CD-R, or Maybe consider doing SVCD"s, the Quality of SVCD"s is over 2 times as high as VCD, mainly because SVCD has over 2 times the Bitrate and resolution as VCD..If you raised the Bitrate of your VCD"s to say 1600kbs you will greatly improove the Quality of the Image and still get close to an hour on a CD-R...


Eric Jonson  2003-04-02 11:48:45 ( ID:llt.n6n320h )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Do you mean if I raise the bitrate of the VCD's to say 1600kbps, the quality of the movie will be more better than before, and the VCD "still can play smoothly on the VCD player without lagging or something"?
'Cause I don't have a VCD player on hand, so it's hard to know if this way will work on it, but if it's worked, the problem will be solved!!
Thanks a lot.


Ashy  2003-04-02 12:19:37 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

First of all DO NOT use media player, or as for that matter any other software player on your PC to judge what you see.

Media player is terrible at rendering the VCD format because of the low resolution. The Saw-toothed images always happen at this resolution on your PC. I guess you are using Windows XP/Windows 2000. Windows Me/98 used to Anti- alias movies, but in WIndows XP/2000 this doesn't happen. Your movie will look much better on your DVD player and the saw tooth effect will disappear as it should be Anti-aliased by the player.

As for blurry frames, this is just an effect of low resolution. You could try to sharpen the input before encoding by using TMPPG's filters, this will improve it slightly. Again though the movie will look much better on your hardware player than on your PC.

Raising the bitrate won't really improve these animated images that much. The only way to really improve the image is to use a higher resolution and bitrate. SVCD will look much better. Also a few DVD players will play out of standard VCD's with a resolution of 704 x 480 and 720 x 480 and higher bitrates.
If your player is capable of SVCD then it should have no problem with with resolutions of 720x480 and 704x480.

ASHY




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