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I am having trouble with Making VCD's. I am using TMPGenc with the standard VCD format. THe VCD's play perfectly from my hard drive, and they play fine on the computer. When I try them in a DVD they play half way thru just fine and then breakup badly to the point they wont play anymore. Both DVD players I use are VCD compatable. Anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong? Any help appreciated.
You have burned the disk too fast.
Many DVD players have problems with disks burned at high speed. The problem is that too many errors are introduced to the disk when burned at high speeds and VCD can't handle this as it corrupts the MPEG data. PC's seem to handle this much better as the drives are better at reading CDR's.
Lower your speed and if you can burn at 4x this will be best.
The range of burn speed is dependent on your CD burner. The software can't over-ride the hardware's specifications without damaging the hardware. I have a Sony burner with a range of 1x-32x and a Lite-on with a range of 4x-32x. No matter if I use Nero, CDRWin, or CloneCD, my Lite-on will never allow me to burn slower then 4x.
If you are already burning at 4x then you shouldn't have problem.
Have you cut this file at all?
Your best bet is to use another burning program. Roxio is absolutely crap for VCD burning.
Use NERO or VCDeasy.
If you still have problems then it is likely your player doesn't like your disks.
The problem exists because some cheap disks have unstable dyes which become harder to read as heat builds up in the player heating the disk and the dye.
Try another disk type and don't use CDRW.
For your info the Datasafe brand are quite cheap, but are excellant for VCD burning. The best I have ever used and I have tried most. Just make sure they are the ones made by RITEK.
If you are already burning at 4x then you shouldn't have problem.
Have you cut this file at all?
Your best bet is to use another burning program. Roxio is absolutely crap for VCD burning.
Use NERO or VCDeasy.
If you still have problems then it is likely your player doesn't like your disks.
The problem exists because some cheap disks have unstable dyes which become harder to read as heat builds up in the player heating the disk and the dye.
Try another disk type and don't use CDRW.
For your info the Datasafe brand are quite cheap, but are excellant for VCD burning. The best I have ever used and I have tried most. Just make sure they are the ones made by RITEK.
If you are already burning at 4x then you shouldn't have problem.
Have you cut this file at all?
Your best bet is to use another burning program. Roxio is absolutely crap for VCD burning.
Use NERO or VCDeasy.
If you still have problems then it is likely your player doesn't like your disks.
The problem exists because some cheap disks have unstable dyes which become harder to read as heat builds up in the player heating the disk and the dye.
Try another disk type and don't use CDRW.
For your info the Datasafe brand are quite cheap, but are excellant for VCD burning. The best I have ever used and I have tried most. Just make sure they are the ones made by RITEK.
>If you are already burning at 4x then you shouldn't have problem.
>Have you cut this file at all?
>
>Your best bet is to use another burning program. Roxio is absolutely crap for VCD burning.
>Use NERO or VCDeasy.
>
>If you still have problems then it is likely your player doesn't like your disks.
>The problem exists because some cheap disks have unstable dyes which become harder to read as heat builds up in the player heating the disk and the dye.
>
>Try another disk type and don't use CDRW.
>
>For your info the Datasafe brand are quite cheap, but are excellant for VCD burning. The best I have ever used and I have tried most. Just make sure they are the ones made by RITEK.
>
>ASHY
Thanks ASHY
Had the same results with Nero. I use Imation CD-R's 80 min 700 MB. What retailers sell the RITEK CD's? Any other ideas appreciated.
Constant Quality will Give you the Best Quality for encodeing Clean Sources But if your Source file isn"t very good Quality you might get Slightly better results with 2 pass.......
I sugest useing either CQ or CBR, depending on how long your movie is... TMPGEnc's 2-pass VBR is very problematic, especially in low bitrates so I wouldn't use it...
Did you see a Picture in the Tmpgenc window while you were encodeing???? If you didn"t then there is No Picture in the File and the AVI wasn"t encoded Properly....
After I encode an MPEG 2 file, i reach a file size that is over 2 gig which Nero says is too large for an ISO file system . What do I do??? What file format shout I use to burn to a DVD//
hello guys
i got some problem
my tmpgenc recognizes not all Frames when i convert a m2v file from
7500 kbit to 5500 he recognizes yust ~72000 frames but the movie have 176000 frames so he cuts the movie after 55min. and says finished but the rest of the movie is missing :/ what do i wrong ? ;(
Well all the frames after 70000 could be Corrupted...If you go to the source range and scan to the end of the file what is there? does the movie end after 70000 frames or do they Just turn Black?? You can try to Frame serve the File with AVISynth of Virtual Dub and see if they read all the frames, if they only read 70000 frames then they Problem is Probably with your File....
With the very last release I get an uncorrect MPEG2 file. At the bottom of the whole movie, there is a green line. The AVI file (created by Pinnacle Studio7) does not show this line. There's also no problem, when creating an MPEG2-file directly with Pinnacle Studio7.
This is an aspect ratio problem. The AVI must be an illegal size. It must be in multiples of 16.
You can correct this with Virtualdub then frameserve to TMPG.
>This is an aspect ratio problem. The AVI must be an illegal size. It must be in multiples of 16.
The size is exactly the same as of the target MPEG: 720 x 576
I found out, that this green line is not fully coloured. It's transparent-green. PowerDVD doesn't show it, so maybe it's not a faulty AVI-file. But PowerDVD shows it in the MPEG. Why?
Pinnacle Studio MPEG-encoder deletes this line and changes its colour to black, as I found out, when exporting the movie directly to MPEG with Studio7.
>You can correct this with Virtualdub then frameserve to TMPG.
Ok, I have downloaded VDub. How can I connect TMPGenc to it and how can I set the video-size?
The easiest way seems to be, to set the very last line to black. How can I achieve this?
It is probably simpler to just mask this green line with TMPG.
Load your AVI then click 'setting' click the 'advanced tab' then the 'clip frame' filter. Tick 'bottom mask' then adjust the setting so that the line is masked then encode as normal.
>Load your AVI then click 'setting' click the 'advanced tab' then the 'clip frame' filter. Tick 'bottom mask' then adjust the setting so that the line is masked then encode as normal.
Thanks a lot! That's exaktly what I wanted to do, but didn't know how.
I tried to figure out how one can make a fast file size estimation like the way it is done by DVD2SVCD (doom9) but didn't figure out how this works. Therefore I tried to look at the help, but no help file was found ...
So could anyone point me to some in depth help of tmpg features and/or tell me how to do such a fast estimation.
I need some help again. I'm trying to make an SVCD movie. The source file is 25.000fps and size 320x185. I'm pretty sure it's 1 hour 39 minutes and 44 seconds long. I'm using TMPGEnc of course and I'm following this guide:
What I don't get is to cut the movie in half. How can it fit even if you cut it in half? And besides, after you cut it in half, when you burn the CD with Nero, it has a 5 second pause that I can't do anything about. Also, it takes 8 hours to burn the first part and probably another 8 hours for the second part. And TMPGEnc suddenly messed up when burning the first part for some unknown reason. Something about the stream. Please help!
Your Makeing a Pal SVCD?? and you want to Cut it in Half or Encode it in Half??? You can do both..if you go to "Settings" to "Source Range" and Double Click it, here is were you can set it to encode the first half or any part of the File...Or you can encode the Whole file and cut it in Half with the Editor..Go to "File" to Mpeg Tools" to "Merge & Cut" here you can cut the file in half...and What are you talking about with takeing 8 hours to Burn the File to disk?? It shouldn"t take more than 10-15 minutes to burn the File to a Disk in VCD/SVCD Format, Or are you letting Nero Re-Encode the Movie?? If so thats a Big No No.....
You have mad some 'BIG' mistakes here. You have done almost everything wrong!
Firstly to cut the movie in half you use the Merge&Cut feature in the MPEGtools.
Secondly when you cut you are supposed to put each part on a different disk not burn both to the same disk.
Thirdly the pause is automatically put in by Nero between tracks, but can be removed by right clicking the file and selecting properties, but you wont need to do this because you are not going to burn both parts on one disk, so you will only have the one track.
Lastly you have loaded an ordinary MPEG2 file into TMPG, I guess you cut this movie and didn't use 'MPEG2 Super VideoCD(VBR)' as the stream setting when you cut it.
This will cause NERO to give you an 'Illegal stream error' which is why you are saying TMPG messed up. You messed up not TMPG.
What has happened is Nero has re-encoded the file again which is why it took 8 hours.
Burning only takes minutes.
Go back to your SVCD guide and read it very carefully again!
Thanks for the replies but let me make it more clearer because I still don't understand. First, I have an AVI (DivX) file that's 1 hour 39 minutes and 43 seconds long. I first used VDub to make a WAV of the audio. The AVI source file is 25.000fps and I want to put the movie onto one SVCD. I read this how-to:
They said that if I had a source file that's more than 60 minutes, it's best that I should cut it in half so I followed their directions for source range as best I can and selected the first half of the movie to convert to MPG. For the mcf thing under "Load" in TMPGEnc, I chose SVCD(PAL).mcf. So I started the conversion for the first half of the movie, this will take 10 hours! While it was at 41%, a error occurred in TMPGEnc saying "Illegal Stream Error" or something like that and the conversion stopped at 41%.
I am currently scanning the source AVI for bad frames like you said ASHY.
I know this has been discussed before, but I
don't see a solution for me. I know it has
something to do with interlacing video and the
field order.
I encode with Tmpeg 2.58
Here are my settings:
Video:
Stream - Mpeg-2 video
size - 720 x 480
aspect - 4:3
Frame rate - 29.97fps
rate control - 2-pass VBR
Profile - Main Profile &Main Level(MP@ML)
format - NTSC
encode - Interlace
yuv - 4:2:0
DC - 10 bits
Motion - Highest quality
Advanced
video - Interlace
Field - Bottom first(B)
source - 4:3 525 line(NTSC)
video arrange - Full Screen
GOP structure
I = 1
P = 3
B = 2
header = 1
most of the DVD is fine, looks wonderful.
But I have 2 clips and a motion menu that
has caused me grief. The two clips seem
to strobe just a little especially where
there is high motion, lines even appears
in those areas. The motion menu is a transistion
from one menu to the next, high movement.
It shows lots of lines. The rest of the DVD plays
fine.
In preview, on Tmpeg I have used the Deinterlace
under Advanced menu and scrubed through to check.
This seems to solve the problem but create another.
The motion is Rock solid, but the still part
of the video seems to be blurred when using this
solution. Help.
You have just discovered one of the quirks of DVD.
On a lot of DVD's the menu's and extras are encoded in a different way to the main movie.
Whereas the main movie is probably stored as FILM with 3:2 pulldown added, the extras and clips are mixture of FilM content and non FILM content.
The reason for this is that the clips are created at a different time to the main movie in a different way and then just hashed together with the main movie to create one complete DVD.
It plays back smoothly when watched, but causes a big headache when trying to encode it.
So what you are trying to do is use the same process on different types of encoding which really need to be tackled differently.
The way to do this is to encode the menu and extras first using whichever filters give the best result then encode the main movie.
Then you join both parts together with the MPEG tools and then author as normal.
Strobing during motion sounds a lot like incorrect field order. Especially if the source is video, not film. "Bottom" field is correct for DV but many analog capture cards are "top field first".
Search for a program called "PULLDOWN.EXE". Among other very useful things it can flip the field order flags without having to reencode.
A foolproof way to determine field order before burning is to use something like avisynth to show each field as a complete frame (bob deinterlace) and step through the video. Avisynth assumes bottom field first so if the frames are jerky, you have top first video. (Use the ComplementParity command to smooth out the video and confirm.)
I have never tried it, but starting the entire encode process in wizard mode is supposed to enable field order detection. Give that a shot and see if top gets selected.
I recently downloaded an avi file that plays well on my PC, looks good, sounds good but I can't seem to encode it in either pal or ntsc. The frame rate is 12.5 fps. Does anybody know what settings may be needed to overcome this and eventually get the file on VCD?
Load in your file as normal in TMPG then load the PAL VCD template. Click Setting>Video.
Next click where it says 'Framerate' and choose 'unlock' from the menu.
This will unlock the setting.
Now click the setting button. This will pop up a box.
Input these Values 25 / 2 = 12.5fps then click 'OK'
In the framerate box it should now say 12.5 fps(internally 25 fps)
Now go ahead and encode. Your AVI will be encoded at 25 fps.
NOTE: This option is better than simply loading the VCD template then encoding as TMPG will do a framerate conversion to 25 fps. TMPG cannot do this correctly and will exhibit undesirable effects such as jerky playback.
Doing it this way will maintain the original framerate, but instruct your player to add extra frames to create the correct 25 fps framerate when playing back.
Even so at this low framerate there maybe some playback artifacts to be expected.
Hi again, after I converted my AVI files, they have lots of blocky images when put on the TV. For instance, in a very dark scene with lots of black colors, you can see lots of blocks. I would make an SVCD but it always comes out screwed up on the TV, meaning there's lots of unwanted trash everywhere covering up the entire video!