the original mpeg play well but after encode video scrambles at certain frame.
i'm using the standard setting provided by tmpgenc. my os is winxp+sp1. i wonder what's the problem.

anyone pls help

Hi !

If I start TMpeg with the options /batch and /close it will display the result log after encoding and waits for me to OK it. After that it will close as expected.
I think if you want it to close you don't want to say OK before, do you ?

Is there an option to skip this log (as Tmpeg does when selecting "shutdown" manually)? (I mean did I miss something ?)
Or is there a commandline option to shutdown ?

(If this is important: Tmpeg Free Version 2.58.44.152 - Core 1.90.140 )

Merry Christmas
M.

I've been using TMPGEnc to convert an .avi to .mpg in order to make a VCD, but the file is just over 80 mins long, so it is unable to fit on one CD. I tried to make the avi into a mpeg-2 for a SVCD, but the bitrate will not go below 1600 kb/sec, and again the file won't fit onto one CD. I am aware that the film will be lower quality but I would prefer to have it on one SVCD rather than in two parts with higher quality. Is there some technical reason why the bitrate is unable to go below 1600, or is it just too bad quality?

There is No way in Hell you will get 80 minutes on a CD-R in SVCD Format, you will Only get 80 minutes in VCD format and the Quality will Be really Bad, and This version of Tmpgenc has a Bug in it that will not let you use a Bitrate lower than Standard for VCD..The Most you can get on a CD-r in SVCD Format would Be 50-60 and that would be pushing it...In allmost ALL Cases you will Have to use at least 2 CD-R"s to Put a whole 1.5-2 hour Movie...To lower the Bitrate you have to load the "Unlock.mcf" template from the "Extra" Folder...

Thanks Minion, I guess it was pretty stupid to try to get the quality that low anyway. It was just me being too lazy to copy the avis all onto atleast two cds.

What is the purpose of the Simple De-Multiplex option in TMPGEnc? I read the conversion tutorial at Doom9.org and it says to go do that option after it finishes converting and go to bbMPEG to paste it together. But after it finishes converting, isn't the audio and video already together? Is this really necessary? I don't find much difference.

De-Multiplex means that you take a file with audio and video and make two files from it, one audio only and one video only.

If you converted a source file that has audio and video then they are multiplexed into one file (togather) by deafult, unless you have chosen specifically to make a video only or audio only file.

What BBMpeg does is to multiplex audio and video streams togather. It has more options then TMPGEnc does so it can increase the file's competability with some programs. I use it very rarely in very specific cases, as 99.9% of the time TMPGEnc does a fine job for me...

What kind of conversion have you done? To VCD? Or SVCD?

Mpeg Obsession

I did normal VCD this time and I didn't have to do the source range because it said if the video file was under 80 minutes (for VCD), then you don't have to do the source range. The conversion finished successfully! Should I do the Simple De-Multiplex?

I just found out, the finished MPG is 1.30GB! How can I make it smaller? Will I have to cut it after all? I'm hoping to use only one CDR. The CDR I'm using is 700MB and 80MIN. Please help! I didn't De-Multiplex it yet.

Under 80min but 1.3GB? What settings/bitrate did you use? Didn't you load the VCD tamplete?

Hehe...I wanted better quality so I set the VCD(PAL) template first (because it was 25fps) then I went to unlock and went to the bitrate to set it to Automatic VBR, quality is 50 and the maximum bitrate is 2520 and the minimum bitrate is 0. But, there was not one single error!

If you change the bitrate, under "System" you have to change the stream type to "VCD Non standard". If you didn't while encoding then go to "File->Mpeg tools->Multiplex" add your converted file, and under the type list select "VCD Non standard".

You now have only one option: Split it to two discs, each having 40min, or what ever will fit on one disc.

No other alternatives unfortunatly. Only other way is to reduce the bitrate to the standard (of a normal VCD): that is- 1150kbps, where every 1min of video equels 1min of space on a CD.

Also, 2520kbps is quite high, at some point it gets to be a waste of space, I got perfect results at 1820-1900, and are you sure your DVD player can play such high bitrate MPEG1? (Fact that it can play very high bitrat of MPEG-2 doesn't allways mean it can play high bitrate of MPEG-1)

Mpeg Obsession

So if I don't want to split it to 2 discs, I'll have to re-encode again and have a smaller bitrate? I'm wondering why it takes me so long to convert one movie, about 15 hours! Thanks for the help.

How do I work the Merge & Cut option? I added my movie file and then double-clicked on the file name. Then an error occurred saying "Could not initialize DirectShow". But you can still press the up and down buttons for Range. Do I select "00:00:00" for the first box?

When I can"t get the Merge & Cut to Work which is Quite often ,I use BBMpeg"s Multiplexor to Cut the File and set it to Cut the File at every 750-795mb,,this works really well ....

Where do I download that? Actually, I think the Merge & Cut option works fine. Only the DirectShow is the problem...so I'll try that.

I agree with Minion, using bbmpeg could be better cause you can select to split not only by time, but also by file size.
you can find it here http://www.doom9.org
look for it in the download section.

mpeg obsession

when i start to make a vcd it gives me an error of either "not enough memory" or not enough virtual memory. but last night it worked. i set 2 files to batch encode, and the first worked, the second didnt. so i rebooted, and now it just gives me those errors. any ideas on what happened?

p.s. i have plenty of hd space, ram and virtual memory to run the program to vcd, it just doesnt work

I am having trouble with Making VCD's. I am using TMPGenc with the standard VCD format. THe VCD's play perfectly from my hard drive, and they play fine on the computer. When I try them in a DVD they play half way thru just fine and then breakup badly to the point they wont play anymore. Both DVD players I use are VCD compatable. Anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong? Any help appreciated.

You have burned the disk too fast.
Many DVD players have problems with disks burned at high speed. The problem is that too many errors are introduced to the disk when burned at high speeds and VCD can't handle this as it corrupts the MPEG data. PC's seem to handle this much better as the drives are better at reading CDR's.

Lower your speed and if you can burn at 4x this will be best.

ASHY

Thanks for the response. I burned the VCD at 4x with Roxio. How can I burn it any slower? roxio won't let me change this setting. Thanks.

The range of burn speed is dependent on your CD burner. The software can't over-ride the hardware's specifications without damaging the hardware. I have a Sony burner with a range of 1x-32x and a Lite-on with a range of 4x-32x. No matter if I use Nero, CDRWin, or CloneCD, my Lite-on will never allow me to burn slower then 4x.

If you are already burning at 4x then you shouldn't have problem.
Have you cut this file at all?

Your best bet is to use another burning program. Roxio is absolutely crap for VCD burning.
Use NERO or VCDeasy.

If you still have problems then it is likely your player doesn't like your disks.
The problem exists because some cheap disks have unstable dyes which become harder to read as heat builds up in the player heating the disk and the dye.

Try another disk type and don't use CDRW.

For your info the Datasafe brand are quite cheap, but are excellant for VCD burning. The best I have ever used and I have tried most. Just make sure they are the ones made by RITEK.

ASHY

If you are already burning at 4x then you shouldn't have problem.
Have you cut this file at all?

Your best bet is to use another burning program. Roxio is absolutely crap for VCD burning.
Use NERO or VCDeasy.

If you still have problems then it is likely your player doesn't like your disks.
The problem exists because some cheap disks have unstable dyes which become harder to read as heat builds up in the player heating the disk and the dye.

Try another disk type and don't use CDRW.

For your info the Datasafe brand are quite cheap, but are excellant for VCD burning. The best I have ever used and I have tried most. Just make sure they are the ones made by RITEK.

ASHY

If you are already burning at 4x then you shouldn't have problem.
Have you cut this file at all?

Your best bet is to use another burning program. Roxio is absolutely crap for VCD burning.
Use NERO or VCDeasy.

If you still have problems then it is likely your player doesn't like your disks.
The problem exists because some cheap disks have unstable dyes which become harder to read as heat builds up in the player heating the disk and the dye.

Try another disk type and don't use CDRW.

For your info the Datasafe brand are quite cheap, but are excellant for VCD burning. The best I have ever used and I have tried most. Just make sure they are the ones made by RITEK.

ASHY

>If you are already burning at 4x then you shouldn't have problem.
>Have you cut this file at all?
>
>Your best bet is to use another burning program. Roxio is absolutely crap for VCD burning.
>Use NERO or VCDeasy.
>
>If you still have problems then it is likely your player doesn't like your disks.
>The problem exists because some cheap disks have unstable dyes which become harder to read as heat builds up in the player heating the disk and the dye.
>
>Try another disk type and don't use CDRW.
>
>For your info the Datasafe brand are quite cheap, but are excellant for VCD burning. The best I have ever used and I have tried most. Just make sure they are the ones made by RITEK.
>
>ASHY

Thanks ASHY

Had the same results with Nero. I use Imation CD-R's 80 min 700 MB. What retailers sell the RITEK CD's? Any other ideas appreciated.

Hello everyone,

Assuming that encode time doesn't matter, what encode settings will give me the best SVCD?

Thanks for your help!

Experience and lots of trial and error are your best tools.

ASHY

Hi Ashy,

Thanks for the reply. What I was looking for was what encode type has the best output, 2 pass, constant quality?

I've used 2 pass in the past, but am I missing something?

Thanks again.

Constant Quality will Give you the Best Quality for encodeing Clean Sources But if your Source file isn"t very good Quality you might get Slightly better results with 2 pass.......

I sugest useing either CQ or CBR, depending on how long your movie is... TMPGEnc's 2-pass VBR is very problematic, especially in low bitrates so I wouldn't use it...

M-O

CQ VBR is the way to go. It almost always gives better results than the 2 pass.

Try these settings and I think u will agree:

Rate control - Constant quality(CQ)
Min bitrate - 1800
Max bitrate - 4000 (if player can handle it)
Quality - 65
Motion search precision - high quality
VBV buffer size '0' (automatic)
Audio bitrate -160

These should allow a 100min regular movie to fit 2 80min disks.

ASHY

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I tried CQ 0-2000 bit rate (the limit of my player), 192k sound, 100 quality.

Looked beutiful to me, with a little blockiness showing is a fire scene.

Thanks again for your help!

i had a movie in avi and i wanted to make a vcd from the avi ...
can i see this vcd's files in my computer??

Please explain your Question Better????

i just made a vcd but i can't see the video why is that..

Is your TV switched on.....?

i had a movie in avi and i wanted to make a vcd from the avi ...
can i see this vcd's files in my computer??

The file writen on the vcd is in DAT format just open windoes media player or whatever you use and point to the file.

Did you see a Picture in the Tmpgenc window while you were encodeing???? If you didn"t then there is No Picture in the File and the AVI wasn"t encoded Properly....

After I encode an MPEG 2 file, i reach a file size that is over 2 gig which Nero says is too large for an ISO file system . What do I do??? What file format shout I use to burn to a DVD//

You can't burn MPEG2 files directly to DVD with NERO. You have to author them first with DVD authoring software to create the correct format.

ASHY

What software due you recommend to author????

You can find few free programs for that in www.doom9.org

M-O

You can find most here:
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/authoring.html

ASHY

You can find few free programs for that in www.doom9.org

M-O

hello guys
i got some problem
my tmpgenc recognizes not all Frames when i convert a m2v file from
7500 kbit to 5500 he recognizes yust ~72000 frames but the movie have 176000 frames so he cuts the movie after 55min. and says finished but the rest of the movie is missing :/ what do i wrong ? ;(

have phun
Lydafo

Option>Enviromental setting>VFAPI plugins. Raise the priority of the 'Directshow file reader to '2'
Restart TMPG and load file again.

ASHY

i tryed that but the same i open file he says 70000 frames but the file have 173000 :///
any other ideas please ?

cu Lydafo

Well all the frames after 70000 could be Corrupted...If you go to the source range and scan to the end of the file what is there? does the movie end after 70000 frames or do they Just turn Black?? You can try to Frame serve the File with AVISynth of Virtual Dub and see if they read all the frames, if they only read 70000 frames then they Problem is Probably with your File....

The best way would be to load the file into DVD2AVI and create a d2v project file then load this into TMPG.

DVD2AVI is much better at decoding MPEG2 files than most other software and codecs and works very well with TMPG.

ASHY

Hallo!

With the very last release I get an uncorrect MPEG2 file. At the bottom of the whole movie, there is a green line. The AVI file (created by Pinnacle Studio7) does not show this line. There's also no problem, when creating an MPEG2-file directly with Pinnacle Studio7.

Any idea?

Michael

This is an aspect ratio problem. The AVI must be an illegal size. It must be in multiples of 16.
You can correct this with Virtualdub then frameserve to TMPG.

ASHY

>This is an aspect ratio problem. The AVI must be an illegal size. It must be in multiples of 16.

The size is exactly the same as of the target MPEG: 720 x 576

I found out, that this green line is not fully coloured. It's transparent-green. PowerDVD doesn't show it, so maybe it's not a faulty AVI-file. But PowerDVD shows it in the MPEG. Why?

Pinnacle Studio MPEG-encoder deletes this line and changes its colour to black, as I found out, when exporting the movie directly to MPEG with Studio7.

>You can correct this with Virtualdub then frameserve to TMPG.

Ok, I have downloaded VDub. How can I connect TMPGenc to it and how can I set the video-size?

The easiest way seems to be, to set the very last line to black. How can I achieve this?

Bert

It is probably simpler to just mask this green line with TMPG.

Load your AVI then click 'setting' click the 'advanced tab' then the 'clip frame' filter. Tick 'bottom mask' then adjust the setting so that the line is masked then encode as normal.

ASHY

>Load your AVI then click 'setting' click the 'advanced tab' then the 'clip frame' filter. Tick 'bottom mask' then adjust the setting so that the line is masked then encode as normal.


Thanks a lot! That's exaktly what I wanted to do, but didn't know how.

Bert