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File : 190 MB (190 MB), duration: 0:34:23, type: ASF, 1 audio stream(s), quality: 34 %
Video : 175 MB, 712 Kbps, 12.79 fps, 640*480 (4:3), WMV3 = Windows Media Video 9, Not checked
Audio : 16.21 MB, 65 Kbps, 44100 Hz, 2 channels, 0x161 = Windows Media Audio 9, Supported
This is the original source file that I have. Is there any point in increasing the bitrate to a higher number? I beleive that this would just make larger file but not improve on the quality of this file.Infact other than applying sharpness filters or noise filters there is not much improvment to be had. Are there any experts that would give me a pointer for the best approch when converting these files to be stored on a DVD (using a DVD at this bitrate means I can store larger number of VCD quality mpegs?) but quality will not be improved over the original file. Right?
Right and wrong.
You cannot compare bitrates between different formats.
What may be OK for one format may not not be a high enough bitrate for another format.
WMV has a good compression>filesize ratio. This same ratio does not apply to MPEG1/2.
While the compression for MPEG1/2 is good it is not as good as WMV or MPEG4.
If you try to encode an MPEG at 712 kb/s it will look awful.
If you do not want to degrade the quality any further then it is best to use at least the same resolution, in this case you would need to use standard DVD resolution 720x480 and a higher bitrate. In fact I would use standard DVD bitrate settings.
You also have another problem. The frame rate is wrong. If you attempt to convert to DVD from this frame rate you will have playback problems. TMPG does not do frame rate conversion too well.
However you could try using the frame rate setting 25 / 2 = 12.5 but you would then need to set the resolution to 720x576 as this is a PAL frame rate.
The nearest frame rate setting for NTSC is 29.97 / 2 = 14.985 however this will still cause playback problems unless you speed up the original frame rate to 14.985 fps first.
In any case looking at this movie it seems pointless even bothering as it's such low quality in the first place.
So what you are saying in essence is to use the standard NTSC DVD template, however I amy have some issues with the frame rate as my original is non standard.
The standard bitrate for a NTSC DVD in TMPGE is CQ max 8000-2000. This is fine I have tried it and it does give good result to date I have not had any frame rate issues other than a time issue. Would re-encoding the this file throu MS movie maker help in getting a good frame rate better suited for conversion with TMPGE.
As usual more knowledge means more factors to decide from. I did not know that frame rate is not applicable to all media formats. Thanks again for your time and info.
Re-encoding your clip with MS Movie Maker will only make your clip look worse. It is a really bad idea to keep compressing your clip over and over. You want to put your cleanest most uncompressed into TMPGEnc.
That clip has a very unusual frame rate. I don't think you will ever get a smooth playback of that clip if you convert it to DVD, especially if the clip has a lot of panning side to side. There is professional software that will perform frame interpolation to adjust the framerate but I never used it so I can't say how it does.
Where did the clip come from? Perhaps you can get the original uncompressed source and encode that.
I think that the saying is right!! At this point all I am trying to do is to clean my HD of all the files I had, I just wanted a format that would remain the closest to my original(the original was probably a mini-dv it was then encoded to ASF for broadband diffusion using a standard template) so I am stuck with this unusual format as my source. At this point I will probably just load it into Tmpge and ask for a DVD NTSC 4:3 format conversion using the standard template. Since the consensus is that I will not be able to improve the quality the aim is to preserve what I already have.
I am trying to make a "best of" my SNL 25 years of music 5-DVD set I received for Xmas. I want to put my favorites on one DVD. I have decrypted from the first 2 DVD's and added them to DVD author with no problem. However any file I try to edit from the 3rd DVD will give me an error message "illegal linear PCM stream" in DVD author. The audio info from the clip is:
I have been to get DVD Author to create a disc that will only do these things when I put it in a player:
1) Display a single menu
2) Only play the chapter the chapter I select and press play on.
I've tried different combinations of Menu Options and no matter what I do it:
1) Displays the menu. Good
2) Plays the chapter I select. Also good.
3) Plays the next chapter. Bad. I can't get it to stop doing this I want it to return to the track menu.
I tried telling it to only include the track menu because it's stupid to have a main menu with only one selection that points to the track menu.
Any suggestions? I'm really tired of burning this disc to DVD-RW. I want to finish this up by putting it on a DVD-R and reclaiming my 4GB.
That's simple: You can't do that by using TDA. That's a trick, only Authoring-Tools like Scenarist, Maestro or DVDLab Professional are providing (it's called "Playlist").
and followed johns0's directions and it worked out great for me. I have 4 clips on my main menu that I can select individually,that clip is then played and the DVD returns back to main menu.
The only problem is that you must press the "title" menu button on the remote to access the main menu. Pressing the "DVD" Menu (Which I consider the Main menu selection) does nothing. Pressing either should get back to the menu as in other authoring packages. I think this should be corrected.
I captured 60 minutes from my dvcamcorder (using Moviemaker) and got a 12gig AVI file. I used TMPGENC to make a PAL SVCD out of my AVI file.
Picture is okey but audio lags and sounds like it's played with half the speed.
How can I fix this??
Maybe a stupid question....can I use TMPGENC to capture video from my dvcam instead of Moviemaker? Or do you have any other suggestion?
(I live in Sweden and use PAL)
Why do I need the ac3 plugin? I am new to all of this dvd making, and I have successfully made a couple of dvds without ac3 encoding.
I love both the dvd authoring and encoding programs and was going to get the audio encoder, but saw a possible problem.
I am about to move out to the sticks where no high speed internet is available and I will be using cell phones for my phone service. So I probably won't be getting 56k internet service. I'll use my work for internet access.
My concern is, if I get the ac3 plugin, will it become unusable after a period of time. I saw that you would have to update every so often to keep the software running.
You don't need the Ac3 plugin.
It's only required if you want to encode to Ac3 audio. If you don't need it and are happy with just using PCM or Mp2 in your DVD's then your fine.
Okay, maybe I phrased my question wrong. Why would I want the ac3 plugin?
I have spent a ton of time getting my capture card working right. Sorting through all the crappy dvd making software. I've got everything working great now, so I started looking into the audio side of things.
I'm just curious what advantages ac3 brings. I was going to download the plugin to check it out, but I saw where you had to re-register it every so often. Was wondering how often, a week, a month, a year?
ac3 = 100% compatible with the dvd standard, great compression, up to 5.1 channels, small file size
PCM (wav) = 100% compatible with the dvd standard, up to 2 channels, no compression, huge file size, gives less room for video, can offer the best sounding audio due to no compression but at the cost of video quality for longer movies
mpa (mpeg audio) = not 100% compatible with dvd standard but almost every player can play it, up to 2 channels (there are some mpeg audio surround encoders however), file size comparable to ac3 2 channel.
In my opinion ac3 is a better choice. Some people will say that mpeg audio is good and I would agree. It all depends on what you like and what sounds good to you. When I play mpa and ac3 audio with my speakers on my television they sound the same. But when I play them through my expensive surround sound system ac3 clearly sounds better. It depends on your ears.
If you purchase the ac3 plug-in from TMPGEnc you do have to activate it. When you install it, it will connect to the internet. It's no big deal if you purchased it legally and have an internet connection. In fact you won't even notice it really, it does it automatically.
The AC3 plugin only encoded 2 channel audio not 5.1
MPEG audio is infact 100% compatible with the DVD standard. However it is only supported in the PAL specification. Having said this I would say 99.9% of all NTSC DVD players, if not all, will play MPEG audio.
As for compression I would say MPEG and AC3 are comparable as they are based on the same technology.
In my opinion sound quality is comparable also if not sometimes better in MPEG than 2 channel AC3 when using Dolby Prologic systems.
It requires a full Dolby digital decoder to appreciate AC3 as it should sound.
TMPG will encode the MPEG using surround sound, as will any other MPEG encoder, as long as the Wav source has been down mixed to dolby surround from a 5.1 source.
Most applications such as VOB2AUDIO and DVD2AVI will do this as will many others.
ashy is correct about the 2 channel limit of the TMPGEnc ac3 encoder. I was just giving an overview of the formats and did not make it product specific.
In NTSC land, mpeg audio is not part of the DVD standard, so it depends if your country uses NTSC or PAL.
To be correct:
MPEG1 Layer 2 Audio is fully DVD compatible - in PAL and NTSC. But according to the Specs:
In NTSC-Land it is only alowed as additional Audio-Track, not as Main-Audio-Track. But like you wrote: Nearly any DVD-Player should be able to play back DVDs with MP2-Audio only.
In the PAL-World, MP2-Audio is alowed as Main-Audio-Track.
i have an avi file using the divx codec that i want to convert to svcd. when I choose the file, it is unsupported. how come some avi files work and some dont? is there anyway to correct this problem?
i'm using Nero 5 and the menu page i created is default in track 1 and wont let me change it. Any suggestion how to do it in Nero or is there a better software?
Oh I see what you are trying to do now.
I don't think it is possible to do what you are asking.
I don't know of any software that can accomplish what you ask or if it supported in the VCD 2.0 spec.
I have just bought a new computer. Installed tmpgenc, copy and pasted my registration number in, but to no avail it says wrong number.
I still have a printed copy of the letter sent when I registard, probably tried to get the nuber in about 40 times now.
I registard about two years ago, anyone got any idea what I need to do?
Probably because your registration will no longer work in the new version because it has been blacklisted.
You will either have to find the version you had originaly or contact Pegasys for a replacment.
Could you elaborate on being blacklisted?
it's not a pirate copy I registered it about two years ago.
I also have a registered copy of dvd author, that went in ok
I tried an old version as you suggested. But, the same thing wrong registration number, you don't really need this when you have to reinstall every thing from scratch.
@CELTIC YOB
Some of the registration numbers provided on the internet are blocked now, that's what "blacklist" means.
And there are a couple of "right" Codes on the List because they where provided on the Net too.
If you have a purchased Registration Code and you are doing only legal things, mail to Pegasys directly, they will help you on your registration.
I'm about to convert a movie in TMPGEnc, from avi to SVCD with subtitles. When that's finished I burn the movie to an DVD. But the problem ouccure when I watch the movie in my DVD-player. The movie have been "pushed up" so I can only use 2/3 of my televison.
I've found out that this only happends when I have subtitles. Not when there's only the movie, without subtitles.
Is there any way you can "cut of" the black line in TMPGEnc??
Why are you creating SVCD if you are burning to DVD?
Why don't you just make the subs selectable by authoring them with your DVD program rather than hard encoding them?