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As title, I tried many posibilities of settings on TMPGEnc to make the quality of my mpeg file(for burning VCD) can catch up with the VCD I bought, but I failed.
The following is the situation,
I watch the movies and they are just perfect.
I made two same 3D movies by trueSpace in AVI uncompressed format.
The resolution of the movies are 704 x 480 and 720 x 480.
I use TMPGEnc to encode these movies to VCD format after loaded "VideoCD (NTSC).mcf" file.
No filters and no setting has changed.
I also tried "Quantize Matrix" set to "CG/Animation".
The result is,
these mpeg files are suitable for VCD format, but terribly lost their qualities.
Saw-toothed and blurred frames made me disappointed.
I wish someone help me to solve this problem, and...
ANYBODY TELL ME CAN "TMPGEnc" ENCODE HIGH QUALITY VCD MOVIES LIKE
"20th FOX ANIMATION"(ALWAYS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVIES)?
Thanks a lot.
There is No such thing as High Quality VCD"s, VCD is a Low Quality Format and makeing a Standard VCD will allways turn out with Blockyness especially when there is High Motion..The only way to achieve High Quality is to go out of the VCD Standard, the Bitrate is Way to low in a Standard VCD to achieve any sort of Quality so to increase the Quality you have to increase the Bitrate which in turn will give you less amount of Minutes on a CD-R, or Maybe consider doing SVCD"s, the Quality of SVCD"s is over 2 times as high as VCD, mainly because SVCD has over 2 times the Bitrate and resolution as VCD..If you raised the Bitrate of your VCD"s to say 1600kbs you will greatly improove the Quality of the Image and still get close to an hour on a CD-R...
Do you mean if I raise the bitrate of the VCD's to say 1600kbps, the quality of the movie will be more better than before, and the VCD "still can play smoothly on the VCD player without lagging or something"?
'Cause I don't have a VCD player on hand, so it's hard to know if this way will work on it, but if it's worked, the problem will be solved!!
Thanks a lot.
First of all DO NOT use media player, or as for that matter any other software player on your PC to judge what you see.
Media player is terrible at rendering the VCD format because of the low resolution. The Saw-toothed images always happen at this resolution on your PC. I guess you are using Windows XP/Windows 2000. Windows Me/98 used to Anti- alias movies, but in WIndows XP/2000 this doesn't happen. Your movie will look much better on your DVD player and the saw tooth effect will disappear as it should be Anti-aliased by the player.
As for blurry frames, this is just an effect of low resolution. You could try to sharpen the input before encoding by using TMPPG's filters, this will improve it slightly. Again though the movie will look much better on your hardware player than on your PC.
Raising the bitrate won't really improve these animated images that much. The only way to really improve the image is to use a higher resolution and bitrate. SVCD will look much better. Also a few DVD players will play out of standard VCD's with a resolution of 704 x 480 and 720 x 480 and higher bitrates.
If your player is capable of SVCD then it should have no problem with with resolutions of 720x480 and 704x480.
This is supposed to be Hori"s home page "http://www.tmpgenc.net/hori/" but good luck getting in touch with him or him even takeing you seriously cuz I"m sure he has all the help he needs.....
i would be most appreciative if anyone can help me out with this problem i'm having.
thank you in advance!
here's my situation. . .
i am "ripping" from a DVD.
i am using flaskmpeg to covert the dvd files to avi files so i can edit them in adobe premiere and then re-encode them for burning on a new DVD.
i am using uncompressed avi files to preserve quality.
the results have been sensational for my purposes except for one thing. . .
after re-encoding with TMPGE, the audio and video seem to drift out of synch.
i've checked the original avi before encoding and the synch is perfect.
the problem exists only after encoding back mpeg-2.
in fact, i'm finding that even if i use the original avi in TMPGE, there's still a drifting issue.
i've even imported a separate wav file as the audio source, created in virtual dub from the original avi with the same result.
the show is only ten minutes long (out of print music performances from a raw source that I wanted to "polish" up).
Firstly why are you doing it this way? Your method is a long way round and Flask is now an outdated program which most people have moved on from.
There is no need to create this intermediate AVI.
Just use DVD2AVI to create a d2v project file from the VOBS then use the VFAPI converter to create a dummy AVI and load into Premier then use the Video server plugin to export to TMPG.
I sincerely appreciate your help. . .
i downloaded DVD2AVI.
i'm having difficulties creating this dummy avi.
would you be so kind as to enumerate the procedure?
once again, many many thanks!!
I sincerely appreciate your help. . .
i downloaded DVD2AVI.
i'm having difficulties creating this dummy avi.
would you be so kind as to enumerate the procedure?
once again, many many thanks!!
To make a Dummy AVI out of a D2V file you will need to Download the "Vfapi Converter" then install the Vfapi Codec, then you can load in the D2V file into the Vfapi Converter and click "convert" and it will make a AVI file with No audio, then you can load the AVI into Premier and use the Audio extracted with DVD2AVI as the Audio track, then do your editing and arrange everything on the Timeline the way you want then you can either use the Video Server plugin to evport the File to Tmpgenc or Use one of the Many Mpeg encoder Plugins for Premier like CCE or Procoder or MainConcept....
I am trying to add subtitles to an avi movie using VirtualDub and TMPGenc.I followed the tutorial on dvdrhelp.com but have the following problem.After creating a vdr file with VirtualDub I should open it with TMPGenc.But it can't be opened with this program.I have tried several other movie and subtitle files.I do have the right system and memory and processing time,so that shouldn't be the problem.Anyone out there who wants to help?I'd really appreciate it.
First Make sure you installed the V-Dub Handler, without the Handler installed the Frame serveing will not work, it is easy if you haven"t allready done so, just run the "AuxSetup.exe" file in the V-Dub folder, then click "Install Handler" and Press OK, then if it doesn"t work try dis-ableing the "Direct Show File Reader" in the "Vfapi Plugins" in Tmpgenc, this should work, and to make sure that everything is set up Properly open another instance of V-Dub and load in the "VDR" file and see if it is displayed in the V-Dub window, if it shows up then every thing is set up correctly...
Why do people ask this?
There is no such thing as a 'best setting'. It all depends on your needs and what you perceive as being best. What one psrson thinks is best is not necessarily what the next person thinks.
Also just asking this sort of question without giving any info on the source is almost impossible to answer. Give us more info. I.E. It's frame rate, it's resolution, the audio format and so on and we may be able to give you some guidelines, but in the end it's gonna be up to you how you continue.
Ok forget that, I just re-read your reply.
As for using TMPG the standard template settings should be more than enough, but do not re-encode the audio if it is Ac3. Just de-multiplex it from the AVI and import it into your DVD authoring program with your movie.
>As these setting will only make 2 files 700mb. Should I increase the cq to 100% and 4000-4000.....
What?
That setting is totally pointless as it's practically a CBR encoding at 4000. DVD Allows VBR encoding and is the best way to go. Having the miniumum at 4000 is just wasting valuable bitrate which should be used for more complicated scenes which require higher bitrates.
Commercial DVD's are encoded using a bitrate of 2000 kb/s min to 9800 kb's max. The TMPG template uses 2000 kb/s to 8000 kb/s so should suit your needs, but you still didn't give me any more info than you gave in the first post.
It's no good telling me what format you used to encode to. It is the format of the source AVI which is important.
Read my first post again and this time be clear about the AVI's format.
Another thing you got to realize is that Not all files are Suited for makeing Standard DVD"s out of..If the AVI file you have has a Really Low resolution like "352+240" then this File would not make a Good Standard DVD because you would have to resize the image up to "720+480/576-Pal" which would make you loose a Lot of Detail and definition, But there are other DVD Standards that you can use Like "352+240/288" and "352+480/576", these standards are more suited to files that have a Low resolution..You should go to "http://www.dvdrhelp.com/" and read up a Bunch on DVD standarts and Makeing DVD"s, you will find the Info very usefull...
"3" the new mobile network operator has recently launched the 3G network in the UK including new data services such as video messaging and video calling. These services use video compressed as mpeg4.
Does anyome know of a way I can produce mpeg4 from standard avi?
Mpeg-4 is AVI, there are Many different Mpeg-4 codecs, DivX is Mpeg-4 and so is XviD, Most files downloaded off the Net from P2P Sites are Mpeg-4, if your AVI file isn"t allready Mpeg-4 you just need to compress it to Mpeg-4 with one of the Many Mpeg-4 Codecs....
Have you tried Raiseing the Priority of the Direct show file reader in the Vfapi Plugins??? this will usually get the Preview to show an image...Go to "Options" to "Enviromental settings" to "vfapi Plugins" and raise the "direct show" to "2"....
I recently tried TMPEGEnc to encode a 20GB AVI File as I would like to convert many of my old BW movies to DVD. I captured the AVI file (video and audio) through my Digital Sony HandyCam (connected to my video recorder) via Premier 6.5. The 20GB movie plays perfectly on the pc.
I used a Bitrate of 6000bps for the TMPEGEnc conversion so the movie would fit on a 4.7GB DVD-R. When I previewed the MPEG conversion, much of the movie had noticeable white lines around the moving areas. eg a person walking swinging their arms.
These are Interlace lines ,they are a Part of the Video ,Without them there wouldn"t be a Picture, Generally they should not show up on your TV when watching the Movie Cuz TV sets are made to display Interlaced Content were a Computer Monitor is not made to display Interlaced content But Progressive content, But if they really Bother you then you can use a Deinterlace filter then they should not show up when viewing on a Computer monitor But they can slightly blur the immage depending on what type of De-interlace filter you use...
I dont know if this has been asked before but i am going to ask it. Is it possible to rip just a specific time set out of a dvd using your software for exaple i only want to rip 00:02:44 - 00:04:43 minutes out of a dvd. If not will that feature ever be available. Thx for your time
To locate the advanced tab press the setting button.
You will not be able to rip a specific time with a ripper. You see you can only rip DVD at certain points. TMPG will never support ripping as this is supposedly illegal.
What are you doing with this file? Re-encoding it? If so just rip the whole movie then use the source range filter as I have said.
You allready Asked this same Question and Nothing has changed since then, Tmpgenc doesn"t Rip DVD"s...But yes you can rip Certain area"s off of a DVD, but it doesn"t use a Time code so you can"t put in the Exact time you want to rip but you can rip Chapters off of a DVD..You would be better off Ripping the Whole DVD With SmartRipper then use DVD2AVI to set up the areas of the DVD you want to encode, then encode those areas with Tmpgenc..But Tmpgenc does NOT RIP DVD"s, it Just encode"s to Mpeg and can convert to AVI formats...You can use the "Source Range" as Ashy say"s to choose the specific area of the Vob file that you want to encode, but only after you have ripped the DVD to your Hard drive and Use DVD2AVI to make a Project file...
In addition to threads already existing about this issue, the following:
I have made several MJPEG-Avi's in Studio 7. Since the MPEG encoder from Pinnacle is a bit "crappy" I'd like to try to make a DVD compliant MPEG-2 with TMPGenc. Doing so I get the anouncement: "cannot open or unsupported". The problem seems to be the Pinnacle MJPEG-codec. This has been installed with the captureboard "DC-10+". Not only TMPGenc gives this problem but, for example, Virtual Dub too. In my opinion, the codec cannot be found by the programs.
When I search for the codecs in Win XP,(Control panel-sounds & audio devices-hardware-videocodecs)I see several Pinnacle codecs, but not the MJPEG one. The MJPEG-capture board is mentioned one level up (hardware). Probably the codec is "hardware" MJPEG but WMPlayer can play the file flawlessly. I tried to convert the files in other formats first, but in my opinion with too much loss of quality for converting again to MPEG-2 (The source is analog too, you see??...)
I guess there must be a solution for this problem, but for a year or so, I read about this problem, but no one seems to know the solution.....
Who can provide THE solution without suggestions like: "convert first to....", the only good way is through the Pinnacle codec. Pinnacle doesn't give support on third party prg's.....
Well the Problem seems that you need a Codec that will decode the Pinnacle Mjpeg format, I know your Capture Card does Hardware Mjpeg encodeing but the Must be a Way to use the card to capture to a Different Format...
PS: I know some Pinnacle Codecs are Propietary Formats which means that only Pinnacle Software can decode the format, They do this so you can"t use any third Party Software to decode/encode the Format to any other Format so you are forced to use Pinnacle Software to convert the format to any other format..
Both thanks for replying. Yes I captured with the DC10+ board in hardware MJPEG. What bothers me, is that for example WMPlayer plays the AVI file without any added codec. So there must be a way to let TMPGenc communicate with the MJPEG codec. With my previous capture/videocard (Matrox Marvel) AVI's were also made with a hardware MJPEG codec. TMPGenc has no problem with that one. Probably it is the path to the codec which is not correct. Other programs are also struggling with this matter, but some players don't have any problem with it (Windows Media Player, Power DVD etc).
I already downloaded the trial version of the Morgan codec Ashy, but no matter the settings, it gives a terrible quality (It did better with Matrox MJPEG-files) Since I want to make DVD compliant files with the AVI's this is not an option for me, but thanks anyway.
I hope some "video-crack" is reading this also and can provide me with a solution. There MUST be a way, I'm a believer....... I wish I could contact Hori-san to tell about the problem, I'm sure he can solve it.
Once solved I want to buy the "plus" version.. In any case, thanks for your "mindmelts".....
Another question: What kind of file do I create for burning to DVD?? "System" or "ES-Video & audio" ?? I tried "System, but Nero won't accept it....
Oh, and sorry about my poor English, I'm from Holland.....
When Makeing a DVD With Nero you can not Just load the Mpeg files into Nero ,You have to use an authoring Program first to Format the Mpeg files into a Video-TS Folder, then use Nero to Burn the Video-TS folder to Disk, But Most authoring Programs Will also Burn the Video-TS Folder to disk so there isn"t that Much need For Nero..Nero is Good if you are makeing a DVD Backup or if you are useing something like DVD2One to backup a DVD, so if you are Going to make a DVD out of a Mpeg file you have to get yourself a DVD Authoring program, Even if Nero could Format the Mpeg file to be burned to a DVD you wouldn"t want it to anyways Cuz nero doesn"t let you add Chapters or menu"s or Titles and that is what a authoring Program will do..DVD Authoring Programs come in all sorts of Qualities and Price Ranges, you can get a Pretty Basic one for under $100 US(convert it to your Currency) and some of the High Quality ones can cost in the Thousands...
Thanks for your info, this was what I needed. Probably I could have got the info elswhere too, but I couldn't find it, and I'm a lot wiser now. I'll try to figure out where to get such an authoring program, so I can make my home-made DVD's.
You've (Minion & Ashy) been very helpfull and now I'm trying to figure out the hardware MJPEG stuff. Otherwise I have to convert my files first into Indeo 5.10-Avi for the time-beýÏg and testing purposes.
>Yes I captured with the DC10+ board in hardware MJPEG. What bothers me, is that for example WMPlayer plays the AVI file without any added codec. So there must be a way to let TMPGenc communicate with the MJPEG codec
Not necessarily it all depends on the codec. TMPG and many other applications will not work with certain codecs just because mediaplayer does. This may be because they are locked from use by any other software or simply just can't be used as external filters by Directshow.
>I already downloaded the trial version of the Morgan codec Ashy, but no matter the settings, it gives a terrible quality (It did better with Matrox MJPEG-files) Since I want to make DVD compliant files with the AVI's this is not an option for me, but thanks anyway.
What do you mean terrible quality. I have seen no quality reduction when importing MJPEG files of my own. Have you tried the PICVIDEO codec which is supposed to give better quality and may be better for you. http://www.pegasusimaging.com/picvideomjpeg.htm
>Another question: What kind of file do I create for burning to DVD?? "System" or "ES-Video & audio" ?? I tried "System, but Nero won't accept it....
This all depends on your intended output format. "ES-Video & audio" will create a seperate video and wav file which can be imported into any DVD program. 'System video+audio' will create a combined Video and mp2 audio file.
Either way you have to use DVD authoring software. Nero doesn't deal directly with these files.
If you still think the codec should be detected by any software try downloading Graphedit and see if it is listed in the Directshow filters. If not you can't use it.
One other thought. Are you sure that mediaplayer is using this hardware codec. Mediaplayer comes with inbuilt support for MJPEG (albeit a bit slow)if DirectX 8/9 is installed. Any other compatible software should also be able to use this codec again check with Graphedit.
I dont know if this has been asked before but i am going to ask it. Is it possible to rip just a specific time set out of a dvd using your software for exaple i only want to rip 00:02:44 - 00:04:43 minutes out of a dvd. If not will that feature ever be available. Thx for your time
Yes you can do this yourself..With SmartRipper you can rip individual chapters,Cells,Vob files, and if the Part you want isn"t a Chapter ect you can use DVD2AVI to make a D2V file for just the part you want to encode...But that particular feature will Never be available in Tmpgenc Cuz Tmpgenc does not Rip DVD"s...