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I'm having trouble converting an AVI to an MPG file that consists of MPEG-2 video and Layer 2 audio.
I used a program called DIKO to create an SVCD and when I checked it with AVIcodec, it was shown as MPEG-2 (SVCD/DVD) video but MPEG-1 Layer 1 audio.
I'm trying to create a disc that will play on a friend's standalone DVD player, and I was a bit dubious as to whether this would be compatible, so I set about trying to create a file containing Layer 2 audio with TMPGenc.
I tried multiplexing the files DIKO created (TA.m2v and TA.mp2) with TMPGenc, but the mpg still shows in AVIcodec as Layer 1 audio, even though the mp2 shows in Winamp as being Layer 2.
I tried extracting the audio from the original AVI, using Stream type: ES(Audio only) to make an mp2 but when I played it back with Winamp, it was silent!
I then tried doing some tests with TMPGenc and a small clip of the AVI file, and I found that if I use the SVCD template, the MPG will show in AVIcodec as containing Layer 2 audio whatever bitrate is used (well, without me fiddling
with it anyway), but if I use the DVD template, 44khz 224Kbps or 44/48khz 128Kbps creates an mpg that AVIcodec shows as containing Layer 2 audio, but 48khz 384Kbps (which is what TMPGenc defaults to and I assume is the DVD standard) produces an mpg that AVIcodec shows as containing Layer 1 audio.
Also, if I de-multiplex an mpg that AVIcodec shows as containing Layer 2 audio, the resulting mp2 shows in AVIcodec as Layer 1 audio. If I then multiplex the files back again, AVIcodec shows the resulting mpg as containing Layer 2 audio again!
Just done further tests and AVIcodec won't even show an audio source if it's Mp2 at 384 Kb/s.
No problem at 320 Kb/s. Looks like a bug in AVI codec cuz my other programs report it as correct.
As you say, it looks like a bug in AVIcodec. I've e-mailed the author, but haven't had a reply yet.
I think I've only installed ffdshow's codecs, so it could be a bug in that as well, but if you're not using ffdshow it's probably AVIcodec. I'm not that thrilled with ffdshow anyway, because if I'm playing an avi or mpg that uses it, I can't minimise the player (Media Player Classic or PowerDVD), because the picture on my TV freezes, which doesn't happen when playing a file that doesn't use ffdshow.
I tried TMPGenc's DVD template at 320kbps and AVIcodec reports the bitrate correctly, but still shows it's size as 0.0B like this:
The file is only 60MB, so maybe AVIcodec has problems with files this small, but it could be the codecs. Do you know of any other program that I can use to check the details of mpg's. I tried Gspot, but that doesn't work with MPEG's.
Do you know if 320kbps audio is within DVD specs? If so, I'll just use this for now and give it to my friend, as well as the SVCD that DIKO created and ask him to check whether they both work OK.
There isn't really a limit to the bitrate you can use for the audio, minimum or maximum.
In fact 320 Kb/s is overkill for MP2 as it's only 2 channel audio. However I always tend to use the maximum a program will let me if I have the space on the disk.
As long as the total max bitrate for the video and audio combined doesn't exceed 9800 Kb/s then there will be no problem.
The other programs I use for MPEGs are 'Virtualdubmod' a very handy free program called 'Bitrate viewer' however it only relates to the video side of an MPEG, but tells you everything you could possibly need to know about it and Media info http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/
As for your problem with resizing your player windows I don't really think this is an FFDSHOW problem. I think you have an issue with your graphics card drivers.
When resizing your players window the codec that it is currently using would not be concerned about it.
The codec simply decodes the data in the source file and passes that info to your graphics card. Any resizing is therefore taken care of by your graphics card overlay. The codec wouldn't even be involved with resizing.
I would try and update your drivers and DirectX.
You could try an alternative method of decoding the AVI with FFDSHOW by disabling ALL Directshow decoding in it and enabling VFW instead to the decoding. This may make it easier on your system and prevent the error.
I always use VFW when I can as I have found it to produce better results albeit maybe slightly slower.
As far as I remember I found the answer to my question once here, but I can not find it in the archives anymore.
I had to reinstall the Divx avi codec on my computer. It is installed properly as it is found by other programs. However, when I try to output an avi file from Tmpgenc the codec is not shown as an option anymore while it used to be. As said I had this problem before but found some solution for it, which I have forgotten.
Does someone know the trick to solve this?
Sorry, but what is means 'when I try to output an avi file from Tmpgenc ... codec as option'? If TMPGenc simply encodes to mpeg, there should be no codec to use as video compressor, like it happens for AVI creating.
That would be to simple. I have reinstalled the codec and Tmpgenc several times in different orders with the same result.
Aldaco12
If you use the <Start> button you get a mpg. But if you go to >File, >Output to File you can also choose to output an avi file. To do this you have to choose one of the codecs available in the list from >Video settings >Compression. My problem is that the installed codec is not shown.
I have found a solution for now, but not a very nice one, by fooling the system. From the codecs shown I have located one that I have never used in the system32 directory. I have replaced the .dll file with a renamed copy of the required divx-codec. Now Tmpgenc shows the divx-codec and it can be used normally. As a result other programs show the divx-codec twice as the original is still on the system as well. Of course a problem might occur if I ever try to play a file which would need the codec that is overwritten.
So, if anybody knows a more elegant solution I would be interested.
Sorry it took me a while to answer. I use the latest one available, 5.2.1. I also tried to install the older versions, 3.11, to see if they would show up. Also nada.
Noob question here. I posted a question on another website and they told me to check out TMPG Enc.
I have a bunch of t.v. episodes that are in an AVI format. I'd like to burn them onto a DVD. I'm not sure where to start.
I started TMPG Enc with the wizard. I "guessed" that I should pick DVD|NTSC (low resolution) with MPEG-1 in the drop down box. That says I should be able to get 495 minutes onto a DVD. I figure that's about 10 episodes or so.
The next page I select an AVI file and leave the 2 drop-down boxes at default. It only lets me select one AVI file so I assume I do them each one at a time.
On the filter page I select "Clip frame" and "Noise Reduction" because that sounds like a good thing quality-wise. It automatically takes me to the settings screen that I leave at default and don't change anything. Does clicking those two option become useless because I don't change anything?
The next page is the Bit rate setting. Here's where I start to wonder. There's a box that says "Make file size 99.99% of disk capacity". Well that means my one episode will fill up the whole disk then, correct? Do I want to change this to 10% and have it automatically change the bitrate parameters then?
If you want to maximize the number of episodes on a dvd you can encode each as a vcd, then use a dvd authoring program such as tmpgenc dvd author which will also burn the dvd.
I've done this & have been able to encode 4 movies on one dvd, with some room to spare. The quality is surprisingly good. There may be other ways to do what you want to do, but this has worked well for me.
Don't bother checking any of those settings. It's unecessary and will slow down the encoding.
You have 2 options, rename each AVI you wish to be encoded in sequence and then check the option for TMPG to open files in sequence or you can alter the percentage to accomdate all of your AVI's.
For example if you have 5 AVI's to encode then set the percentage to 20%. then in the next screen select 'Create another project for batch encoding' until you have done all of them then reselect 'start encoding immediately'
Thanks to both of you. kuczynski - I've done them individually to a VCD, but thought that maybe I could up the quality a bit. I may have to stick with the VCD format.
ashy - thanks for the info about those 2 settings. I tried manually setting the percentage, but I notice after the 5th one that as I clicked 'Next', a different number than 10% would appear briefly. It took all night and part of the morning to do the 10 files, but some were a Gig, so it was actually changing the percentage.
I'll give the 'Open files sequentially' a shot - but do you know then if I'll be able to have chapters or whatever so I can view each episode or will it run all 10 together?
If you open the files sequentially you will need to mark the points that each film begins manually in your authoring program to create seperate chapters.
Not very hard to do if you use TMPG DVD author.
Hi I have my AVI video and encoded with TMPGEnc 2.5 with subtitles
then I burned my mpeg file to create a VCD with VCDEasy 2.0.
When I put the VCD in my DVD Player image looks great but with subtitles
I only see the first row of subtitles second one is down and can't see it
any way to fix this or what I did worng?.
There is a configuration setup in FFDShow, if you used it...you can choose the font size, its colour and, I think, the distance from the bottom border.
Hey, I'm not exactly an expert in this but I'm doing media at college so hopefully one day I will be. Basicly, I recorded a few films onto DV tape with a camcorder and using the RGB sockets on my PC media card I got the film onto my pc logging and capturing.
Now in AVI format and whey to big to put on the net I'm trying to encode them to MPEG using TMPGEnc. So I basicly select the PAL (yep I'm in England) Video-CD option, I select my AVI file using the selector and it default sets the options as, "Interlace, Bottom Field First (field B), 4:3 625line (pal 704x576)". I select none of the extra Filter Settings and then keep hitting next untill it begins encoding.
So I let it encode then when I try to view the mpeg video file I'm only seeing black with the audio. Is there somthing I've done wrong??
Hi, I have done a search to no avail, but just wanted to know if anyone has had any problems with Windows Media Player 10. I read that WMP9 didnt work with TMPGENC so did not bother with it. Thanks.
Does anyone know what can be causing my encoding speed problem?
What happens is that after a while of "normal" encoding, I find that the speed of the encoding drops off dramatically. When I stop encoding & start again, its still slow. The only way to get the encoding back to "normal" is to reboot my XP machine.
I've tried setting the priority to low & even setting the affinity in task manager to one cpu (intel p4) with no effect. Under these conditions it will encode at a good rate for a while, but eventually the speed drops dramatically.
A suggestion: use motion search precision = highest quality (very slow) and encode at night, while you're sleeping. TMPGenc's output mpeg quality falls when you decrease the motion search precision.
I don't understand why this happens but when I open & run TMPGEnc it starts encoding very quickly. After a short while, the encoding speed drastically drops. For example it is initially estimated that it would take, say 30 minutes, to encode. It encodes at this rate for about 5 minutes, then it slows right down & takes hours to complete. I don't know why!
I'm able to "fix" this issue by opening TMPGEnc 2 times & only using 1 to encode what I want encoded. Now it will take less than 20 minutes to encode a 20 minute video, whereas before it would take many hours.
Can anyone explain what is going on? Has anyone else had this problem?
Thanks, in advance for any knowledge & maybe my "solution" might help others in this situation.
I have an AVI file in wide screen format - I don't know the exact ratio, but I believe it was ripped from a "wide screen" edition DVD. The pixel dimensions measure 576x240 according to the Summary tab in the windows Properties sheet. When I play the AVI in PowerDVD (or any other player) it displays correctly on the screen.
When I attempt to encode this AVI to an MPEG for DVD burning, the video is _always_ the wrong size. Most often the width is correct (576 pixels), but the height is stretched out to fill the screen, giving the image a tall, stretched look. Though occasionally I get video that seems in the correct proportions, but is cut off on the sides.
I have tried just about _everything_ in the TMPGEnc settings to change this output video. The video looks correct in the "preview" window in TMPGEnc, but is always incorrect in the final output file. What is it that I am missing? I'm happy to try to provide any more information that might be helpful in solving this problem, provided that I know the info.
That's how it should be.
As long as you select the output resolution as 16:9 when you play it back in a DVD player or DVD softwer player it will be resized to the right aspect ratio by the player.
Thanks for the information. As I'm still pretty new at this I did a little more poking around after reading your reply. The encoded MPEG video still plays stretched along the vertical axis in my PowerDVD player, but on a whim I did an image capture using the software's built in utility and pasted that capture into Photoshop. The pasted capture was the correct size and dimension. I assume that if I write this MPEG to a DVD that it will indeed play correctly on my DVD player, but do you know why PowerDVD is stretching the video? I have used this software to play all sorts of video on my system and have never encountered this problem before. I've reviewed the PowerDVD settings and cannot find anything that would cause this. Any ideas?
PowerDVD should be resizing the MPEG correctly.
Check your settings.
The source is PAL anamorphic. TMPG input aspect ratio should settings should be:
16:9 525 line (PAL)
Full screen (keep aspect ratio)
Output should be:
MPEG-2
16:9 Display
720x576
25fps
If you are still getting distorted images, you could try my method, which uses a 4:3 ratio screen. Under the aspect ratio setting, choose [Centre] - Custom Size. You can now enter parameters for the height and width of the video. What I do now is scale up the proportions to fit DVD video, so if you want a final output of 720x576, you would take your original dimensions ie 640 x 320 and divide 720 by the width ie 720/640 = 1.125. Now multiply this result by the height - ie 1.125 x 320 = 360. Now in the [Centre] Custom Size width and height boxes, enter in 720 x 360 (the scaled up amount). This method will give you video footage in perfect proportion every time.
If you want to burn off a 1/2 duplex dvd (KDVD for example)work it all out as before, but when you enter in the final amounts in the [Centre] Custom Size boxes, enter in your 1/2 duplex width instead. So using the above example it would be 352 x 360 (for a KDVD).
i have encoded many avi usi tmpge but encounter some files when i'm using tmpgne becomes double or more than the playing time and size. I never change any of the bitrate
ex:problem Avi file 169 mb (24m) use tmpge with setting VCD Mpeg 1 Ntsc 4:3 525
Video Highest qaulity. Advance ;Ghost reduction ;noise reduction ;sharpen edged;simple color correction; clip frame; all check. Bitrate 11150
You have to make the mpeg using audio and video not just video i had this problem when i just tryed using "system video" but as soon as i put "system audio and video" instead of just video it worked correctly
>You have to make the mpeg using audio and video not just video i had this problem when i just tryed using "system video" but as soon as i put "system audio and video" instead of just video it worked correctly
Not necessary, but it probably worked because it took the length of the audio into account.
>where can i finding the directshow file reader? is it under options or setting?
I've been searching for a solution for the same problem and until this I'd only come across "yeah, everyone asks that" and "try a search". Ironic, since I'd already checked the FAQ searching was what led me to that post.