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Question Progressive encoding and deinterlace PaulH 4 2004-10-09 01:22:08
Question No sound even with the codec? drdrig 3 2004-10-10 10:38:50
Question No sound after encoding adi91 0 2004-10-06 01:06:13
Question Beep where two Mpeg file are joined RP 1 2004-10-05 17:22:14
Question No sound after Cut & Paste R2 5 2004-10-16 12:55:25
Question Saving? Sjl 0 2004-10-04 05:27:57
Question m2v cannot be created... Sjl 2 2004-10-03 15:42:42
Question SUBTITLES: .sub files shtroumpf 1 2004-10-03 13:18:32
Question no audio source but sound in avi? steve 1 2004-10-01 22:39:13
Question TMPGEnc shows that movies lenght is over 300 min:s Sjl 10 2004-10-02 22:00:32
Question avi to mpeg audio file invalid mikey27 0 2004-09-30 23:46:26
Question TMPGenc keeps encoding at end of file liam 3 2004-10-01 07:23:34

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Question - Progressive encoding and deinterlace No.42413
PaulH  2004-10-08 03:36:59 ( ID:tdvhejme8jf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

On the video tab I can mpgeg2 set Encode Mode to non-interlace. If this de-interlaces during encoding, how is it different from the Deinterlace option on the Advanced tab?



ashy  2004-10-08 12:20:05 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Non-Interlace simply means encode to progressive frames.
De-interlace means blend 2 seperate fields into one frame or remove one of the 2 fields.

Encoding to Non-Interlace will NOT de-interlace a movie. It will simply encode both fields into one progressive frame.
This is fine with PAL sources, however if this is done with NTSC sources it can cause interlacing artifacts such as combing on moving verticals unless the source is de-interlaced first.


PaulH  2004-10-08 16:24:30 ( ID:fxv1uqadd2f )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks - that's made it clear to me. If I encode an interlaced file to progressive I should choose a de-interlace filter, and equally I shouldn't use the de-interlace filter without choosing to encode to progressive.

I am curious about why PAL would be different though - I asked about de-interlacing because I am backing-up NTSC camcorder DV to disk, I also have I some old PAL tapes that I was planning to copy too. Won't the interlacing for PAL work the same as NTSC (apart from having more scan-lines and lower frame rate)?



ashy  2004-10-08 21:53:51 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Your right in your first assumptions.

Why the difference with PAL? Well it all depends on the source really.
I'll start with DVD.

NTSC DVD's use something called 3:2 pull down or Telecine. This is a method of turning a progressive 23.976 fps source into an interlaced 29.97 fps source to comply with NTSC standards. This process can also be reversed by using inverse telecine.
Basically what happens is flags are added to the encoded material which tells a player to repeat certain fields in a frame. What this acheives is an extra 6 frames a second.

However due to how the process works the fields become displaced, by that I mean that field 1 and field 2 are not in the same frame. They may be adjacent.
If you were to attempt to encode this type of material as progressive, you would see interlacing artifacts due to the fact that the fields are displaced.
You can see examples of this if you search for 3:2 pulldown on Google.

The difference with PAL DVD is that a process called 2:2 pulldown is used, basically all this is, is a frame split into 2 fields, however this time the fields belong to the same frame, so in reality you could treat each frame as progressive.
The frame rate is then speeded up 4% to 25fps and the audio is adjusted to compensate.

Now things change when we deal with PAL footage from an interlaced camera.
These cameras also displace the fields, so you cannot treat the frames as progressive, you need to deinterlace. The same goes for NTSC cameras.

You should find that if your source is interlaced from a camera and you encode it to interlaced then you shouldn't experience any artifacts on your TV.
If you attempt to watch this type of footage on a progressive display such as your monitor you will see the artifacts unless you use a de-interlace filter such as a BOB filter.

These things are hard to explain without examples, so I have linked to a few below.
http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/interlace.htm


PaulH  2004-10-09 01:22:08 ( ID:tdvhejme8jf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks for the explanation, I hadn't considered the effects of pulldown. I've also bookmarked the link so I can refer to it - it looks very useful.



Question - No sound even with the codec? No.42409
drdrig  Home )  2004-10-08 01:49:31 ( ID:fswsmuepaql )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Okay I have a slight problem. I've been trying to put an avi onto a VCD with no success for most of the day. My problem is, no matter what I try, I cannot get ANY sound to come up. Kicker is that I can listen to the sound just fine in Winamp, but when I try to encode to MPEG1, I get nothing.

The AVI requires XviD and AC-3, which I have both installed. Any ideas?


drdrig  Home )  2004-10-08 03:10:32 ( ID:fswsmuepaql )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I did find a work around, but took longer than I planned.

First I just opened the Video in Winamp, and went into the preferences then to Output. I chose Nullsoft Disk Writer. I hit play and let it go.

Since TMPGEnc has where you can choose a separate audio source, I went under C: (where I told Disk Writer to make the wav) and chose it. Worked like a charm. I definately don't want to do this again, but I know that it works.

In the future, it would be nice if someone could find a better way to make TMPGEnc properly do this.

If anyone knows of a fix, please feel free to reply.


ashy  2004-10-08 22:01:33 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You need the filter below for AVI with AC3 in TMPG.
http://fcchandler.home.comcast.net/AC3ACM/


pretpat  2004-10-10 10:38:50 ( ID:01v1u4zds.c )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

i have the exact same problem. i installed the ac3 codec from the link but still nothing.
Do i have to select it at the environmental settings or something?



Question - No sound after encoding No.42408
adi91  2004-10-06 01:06:13 ( ID:cisxp0hfzmn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Why is there no sound after encoding? How can I fix this?
someone please help.



Question - Beep where two Mpeg file are joined No.42406
RP  2004-10-05 15:54:01 ( ID:2g5slm3dn7n )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

When I try to join two mpeg files, the final file is in the required format, except that there is strange loud beep noise where the two files are joined.
I have tried working with various files and am having the same problem in all the files.


ashy  2004-10-05 17:22:14 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Make sure you click the 'correct' button before joining otherwise the GOPs will not join properly.



Question - No sound after Cut & Paste No.42400
R2  2004-10-05 14:50:21 ( ID:nemzwyikntl )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

OK, total noobie here. Forgive my complete and total ignorance.

I have two MPG files that I want to Cut & Paste. I need the last 4 minutes of one file connected to the first 1 minute of the second file. Then I want to save the resultant work as a new .mpg file. Sounds simple.

If I use TMPGEnc | File | MPEG Tools | Merge and Cut, I can figure out how to edit the files and select the pieces of the files that I want -- using the well-designed braces {}. However, when I Run the program at this point, only the video stream is produced. The .mpg file is created, but there is no sound. If I examine or demux the new file, clearly only the video stream was encorporated in the .mpg file.

What am I doing wrong??
____________________________________

The original MPG files have the audio encoded as "CPM-Audio" Packs. The video attributes are 720x480, 4:3 ratio, 29.97 fps, bitrate 240,000 -- if any of that matters.

Thanks.


ashy  2004-10-05 17:21:10 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Cut and paste is not really a term used in video editing, but I understand what you mean.
You have incompatible audio. You would need to encode the audio to MP2 first then remux with your video and then perform the cut.


R2  2004-10-06 13:40:17 ( ID:nemzwyikntl )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thank you and sorry for the terminology error.

How can I easily convert the audio? I can extract it to a .wav file, but none of the converters that I own do anything but convert that to mp3!


R2  2004-10-06 14:35:46 ( ID:nemzwyikntl )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

OK, I found this program called "Audio Converter" and I downloaded it for a free 10-day trial. Eh, I don't recommend it. It converted my 18 minute WAV file to a 15 second MP2 file. No good. There are several converters out there, but which one is decent? The one I picked is a dog!


ashy  2004-10-06 16:36:46 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Easy TMPG will do it.
Simply load the MPEG into TMPG as normal then select 'audio only' next click the setting button and select the bitrate you want to encode to. If you want it to be very high quality then select the highest bitrate.
When done just hit start. After TMPG has finished you should have an MP2 file which you can then remux with your video.


R2  2004-10-16 12:55:25 ( ID:nemzwyikntl )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

DUH! Thanks. Got it to work. I appreciate the assistance.



Question - Saving? No.42399
Sjl  2004-10-04 05:27:57 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

If im creating an .m2v and .mp2 from .avi can i save the project and continue later?

If it is possible, then could you tell me how, and also the opening of the saved file.



Question - m2v cannot be created... No.42396
Sjl  2004-10-03 14:40:44 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

ok new problem now, it has started to tell me that m2v file cannot be created, when i try to start encoding, how does this stop?


ashy  2004-10-03 15:39:49 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Make sure your output drive has enough space and try giving it a different name to the input file.


Sjl  2004-10-03 15:42:42 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

ok, well it started doing it now, when i dinit change the deafult output directory.

The drive has anyway enough space.

Thanks for the reply.



Question - SUBTITLES: .sub files No.42394
shtroumpf  2004-10-03 00:47:28 ( ID:wgphucycwza )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

How do I incorporate subtitles (they come as .sub and .idx files)????
ThanXXX


ashy  2004-10-03 13:18:32 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Install VOBSUB and they will load automatically.



Question - no audio source but sound in avi? No.42392
steve  2004-10-01 14:59:22 ( ID:1wn.prmvfuf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

hello everybody,

i've got the following problem:

the .avi file i want to encode to .mpeg is bugfree and runs perfect but if i want to convert it, tmpgenc says that no audio source is available. the .avi has sound though. if i convert it by ignoring that alert, i receive a .mpeg file without sound.

is the sound format probably not known by tmpgenc?
how can i check this?

hope someone can help me :/


ashy  2004-10-01 22:39:13 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Download AVICODEC and check for AC3 audio.



Question - TMPGEnc shows that movies lenght is over 300 min:s No.42381
Sjl  2004-10-01 08:46:55 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Yeah it show in the project wizard part 45 that my movie is over 300mibs long. It is actually 1h 49min:s long.
I cannot start encoding, because the file wont fit on DVD. No matter what i do whit the avarage bit rate setting, it wont fit on DVD. So that means i cant burn it :(, so how i make this program understand that the film is only about 110mins long...?


B_Racer  2004-10-01 09:11:14 ( ID:0jd4rmr3tyn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Guess, you have a Video with VBR-Audio. In this case, decode the Audio-Part to WAV first by using VirtualDubMOD.


Sjl  2004-10-01 09:17:27 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

hmm... Dvdsanta shows that my audio is PCM.

But dvdsanta is no good, i dont like it.

How do i convert the audio part to Wmv whit VirtualDubMod?


Sjl  2004-10-01 09:37:03 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Yup it is A VBR (the audio)


Sjl  2004-10-01 10:17:42 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Yup so the question is how i change the audio in Wmv whit virtualdubmod?


B_Racer  2004-10-01 14:27:12 ( ID:0jd4rmr3tyn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hm, WMV. I think, there is a special Version of VirtualDub for ASF/WMV. But i for my self are using GraphEdit to convert the Audio-Part.


Sjl  2004-10-01 16:46:37 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

sORRY... I ALWAYS CONFUSE WMV AND WAV!! :D

so now i have separated the audio from the movie, how do i convert it to the right form (was it now Wav. :O or some other, you tell me :)) and add it back to the film?

Please reply :)


Sjl  2004-10-01 17:09:44 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

sorry for my large number of messages :O
But since you know how to convert the avi part whit Graphedit, i downloaded the graphedit to my computer, i was wondering, that could you tell me how to do the conversion?
(take the audio out of the film, turn it to the right form and the put it back to the film...those)

Thank you.


ashy  2004-10-01 22:37:55 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

The usual way to correct the problem you're having is to go to Option>Enviromental settings>VFAPI plugins the raise the priority of the 'Directshow file reader' to 2 and ensure it is top of the list.
If that doesn't cure it then install FFDSHOW also.

Finally if neither work, which is unusual, use the source range function to mark the start and end points of your movie.


Sjl  2004-10-02 07:37:10 ( ID:pjkt7b2qoc6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

it did actually cure it!

Im very thankful! This is great.


Kika  2004-10-02 22:00:32 ( ID:uuwxt3imncn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

It's always a good idea to raise the DirectShow Multimedia file Reader priority. But i do prefer to export the Audio-Part to WAV first.

GraphEdit is simple, if you know the Tricks. For Audio-Export to WAV, open the Video with Graphedit.
Remove the video branch completly. Remove the last Part of the Audio-Branch.
Open Graph -> Insert Filters -> DirectShow filters.
Choose WAV dest and choose File writer -> Type in the name for the WAV.
Draw the Lines from the Audio-Branch to WAV dest and from WAV dest to File Writer, press Play, wait a little, ready.

You can also use it to convert Video from one to an other format, and you can use it as Pre-Processor for AVISynth. If you like, you can use a Codec to compress the extracted Audio-Stream.
With GraphEdit, you are able to use ANY DirectShow-Filter on your PC the Way you want to use it.


Oh, and if you just want to extract AC3 from a Video... just use Dump as Filter for Output. ;)



Question - avi to mpeg audio file invalid No.42380
mikey27  2004-09-30 23:46:26 ( ID:lth18vffgqf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

i am converting .avi to .mpg for a vcd. i load the video source fine, and i try loading the same file for the audio source and it says it is invalid. could anybody tell me what i am doing wrong and how to fix it please? thanks



Question - TMPGenc keeps encoding at end of file No.42376
liam  2004-09-30 10:46:43 ( ID:xvccyaemcsc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have a problem whether I singly encode a file or try and bacth encode. When the encoder has finished, the percentage show as 100% done. The encoder just keeps on running. I cant abort as TMPgenc ignores it. I have to kill TMPGenc, the mpeg uis usuable but this problem stops me doing any batch work.

I have tried changing plugin settings but these have no effect.


B_Racer  2004-09-30 11:57:56 ( ID:0jd4rmr3tyn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

After Encoding, TMPGEnc does the Multiplexing. This can take a while.


ashy  2004-09-30 21:07:45 ( ID:x30mq/laqi2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

This is normal. TMPG is still performing some processes such as writing header data into the file. Just wait and it will finish, this can take up to a few minutes sometimes.


liam  2004-10-01 07:23:34 ( ID:xvccyaemcsc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks Guys.



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