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Hi..
I think this strange rquest but it is important for me.
I'm looking for any problem in the [TMPGEnc] or some thing that needs to be improved.
It is only for my study I need to write a project Ideas that will help me in my Proposal and because I use the [TMPGEnc] for about 1 year it will be easy for me to talk about in the Proposal
so please help me give any problem, any problem, that can I write about in my Proposal.
I didn't notice anything in TMPGEnc 2.521's free version concerning SECAM television systems; but I did see NTSC and PAL television systems listed within it. I know that PAL and SECAM are similar in some respects, but not the same. So what does one do in the process of encoding a .avi file in TMPGEnc to a .mpg file with the goal of preparing a video Compact Disc (CD)? In TMPGEnc should one just treat SECAM as PAL? Likewise VCDEasy 1.1.5.2, a program which can be use to author the .mpg file outputted by TMPGEnc to make a VCD, only has NTSC and PAL options, but no SECAM options that I found in it. Should the SECAM preparation be treated as a PAL preparation in VCDEasy 1.1.5.2? If SECAM is supposed to be treated as PAL in TMPGEnc and VCDEasy, is it the video player's task to generate output for a SECAM television system? If so, does the human being operating the video player have to push a button or something for the player to output video signals compatible with a SECAM television system? Or is the video player supposed to automatically sense the type of television system used in a television? If in the whole process of generating a VCD the SECAM specification is not introduced somehow until the playing of the video CD, I suppose this means that in order to play a video CD on a television using the SECAM system, one must have a video player that will generate SECAM video signals. If so, are such players common? (You are welcome to correct any mistaken assumptions of mine. Please do not be offended by this request. But since I am not likely to know you or your experience, expertise, and knowledge in these areas, please write something about your levels of expertise, experience, and/or knowledge so that I can make a decision on the reliability of the information you provide. Thanks.)
As far as I know a SECAM VCD, SVCD or DVD is essentially the same as the PAL version.
SECAM shares the same resolution and frame rate as it's PAL counter part. The only difference being the way it handles the colour signal.
Seeing as a VCD only stores frames as digital data the color signal method is not a factor as this will be produced in the correct format by the DVD player.
However there are no commercial SECAM DVD's or VCD's all DVD's or VCD's are produced in either PAL or NTSC format only.
All newer SECAM format T.V.'s also support PAL as standard, so as to be compatible with todays external equipment such as DVD players. The only reason you would need a DVD player with SECAM output is if the TV was an older SECAM only TV.
This is why you will not find any encoding software that has SECAM support as it is not an issue as for as digital media is concerned.
SECAM is basically treated as PAL as far as digital production goes.
I'm not going to explain why you should accept my explanation either. If you need to know on what basis I have made this post and the extent of my knowledge as far as video production is concerned then do a search for 'ashy' on this board and you will see many of my other posts I have made over the long time I have used this board.
It is up to you to verify the information I have given you above. It is all there on the net if you look.
i'm using version 2.52 on a new pc (win xp p4 3.00ghz 512mb ram). basically, everytime i attempt to browse to a file that i want to convert, TMPGEnc crashes.
if the file i want to convert is immediately viewable in the browser window when i open it, i can click on it and there's no problem with the rest of the conversion process.
however, if i need to resize the browser window or have to use the scroll bar in order to locate it, TMPGEnc crashes every time!
is anyone else having this problem?
btw, apart from this i've nothing but praise for the authors of TMPGEnc.
I've tryed TMPGENC DVD NTSC option but, with my Sony S735d dvd player with a monitor tristandard, the videos are jerkily.
I've tried the "3:2pulldown" option but works in worst way (more jerkily)
My video source is AVI PAL MJPEG made with a FAST AV MASTER board and sw.
Tmpgenc can interpolate fron 25fps to 29.97fps?
Or do you know any sw dedicated specially to do this?
TMPG cannot do proper frame rate conversion, you will have jerky playback as you have discovered.
There are 2 ways you can do it successfully.
One is to simply slow down the framerate of MPEG to 23.976 with AVIfrate or Virtualdub and then add 2:3 pulldown to make it 29.97.
You will then have to stretch the audio to match the video and then multiplex together.
Most PAL DVD's use a 4% speed up from 24 fps anyway so all you are doing is reverting back to the original frame rate.
The second way is to use AVIsyth, much better than TMPG, but not as good as the slow down method.
AVIsynth is free. Just simply use the command CONVERT FPS(23.97) or CHANGEFPS(23.97) in a script.
I would recommend the slow down method for ultimate quality preservation, but if you choose to do it the AVIsynth way (this way the length of the movie doesn't change) then I would use CHANGEFPS as this seems to give better results when converting PAL to NTSC.
Once you have changed the frame of the AVI to 23.976 you can the use the 'Add 3:2 pulldown while playback' option in TMPG when encoding, make sure you set the frame rate to '23.976 fps(internally 29.97 fps)'
You will also have to match the length of the audio to new length of the AVI.
Ok, what you need is Goldwave5.
First of all find out the EXACT length of the AVI that you changed the FPS with AVIfrate.
Just load the AVI into AVIfrate then write down the length of the movie.
Next start up goldwave and load your original AVI with audio.
If the AVI has AC3 you will need to install this Ac3 filter first: http://ac3filter.sourceforge.net/
Click Effect>Timewarp then select 'Length' and put in the exact figure you got from AVIfrate. Leave all others at default. Now click OK. When it has finished save it as a wav.
You can then encode the new wav to whichever format you wish and multiplex it with the movie in TMPG.
Thanks for the offer, much obliged, but I don't think I have the means nor the funds to get there. While I think Italy is a nice place to visit maybe one day....
Converted avi file to vcd file. The vcd file plays OK on computer with Windows media player. But it will not play on my TV/DVD. The screen froze. Any help is welcome. Thanks.
ok, i have a video that is 741mb so it wont fit on a blanck cd. so i have split it in half using TMPGenc, and the end result of only HALF the video is 781mb. what did i do wrong?
"Source" in your case is a divx AVI. It sounds like you converted it to mpeg? in which case, the file could be larger or smaller than the source. For splitting AVI files I suggest using virtualdub. Also, if your AVI has variable bitrate audio you can use virtualdub to save the audio as an uncompressed wav file. Use the wav as your audio input in tmpgenc to prevent audio sync problems when converting avi to mpeg.
LOL...you haven't split the AVI you have re-encoded it to an MPEG. This is why it is larger than the AVI.
MPEG1 VCDs encode 10mb/min. So if your AVI is 2 hours long say, it will be 1200 MB in size.
Like Rick says you need Virtualdub to split AVI's.
I have used ASFTools to convert an asf file to avi. The avi file plays correctly, but when I use TMPGEnc to convert it to mpg the resulting file contains quite a few 'pops' or glitches. Not quite sure how to explain the errors, but I guess pop is the best way.
Also not sure if it's an ASFTools problem, or TMPGEnc problem, but don't think it's and ASFTool problem as the avi plays without the glitches in WMP ... both classic and 9.0 ... an Power DVD. The original asf also play without problems.
Any suggestions for correcting this is appreciated. (W2K, 1 gig memory, PlexWriter cd-r).
TMPG will encode ASF directly. You may need to raise the priority of the 'directshow file reader' in the VFAPI plugins to 2. If not then you can use VirtualDub14c-asf to frameserve the file to TMPG.
I've tried what you suggest and it does not encode the audio. Audio starts but then stops in both Windows Media Playr Classic and 9.0.
The GSpot info is as follows ...
The audio src is: WMAudioV2
audio path : (S) --> ASF ACM Handler --> Windows Media Audio Decoder --> MatrixMixer --> (R)
stream type: video/x-ms-asf
video src type: MP43
audio src: WMAudioV2
The priority of the 'directshow file reader' is set in the VFAPI plugins to 2. I also get the problem of big chunks of blocks in some files as mentioned in another post, and that is with directshow set to 2.
I also think I tried VDub and it did not like the files! Also tried VDub 1.3 with the same results.
The asf to avi conversion works, but then I have the problem of the "popping" sounds. Video and audio is so complicated and there are so many different formats in use. Each file is different and needs to be addressed with different tools ... just like life, it is not simple.
Did you use VirtualDub14c-asf?
This is a special version for ASF files, sometimes though it won't work with certain ASF files, usually ones that are corrupt in some way.
Also it is well known that media player 9 interferes and causes a lot of problems with Directshow related sources in programs such as TMPG, and other software.
My advice would be to get rid of it if you can and stick to version 8. You will find posts relating to this on this BBS.
Also you may want to try installing the hacked MS MPEG4 1,2,3 codec.
Microsoft has placed restrictions in the current versions of the MS MPEG4 (AKA ASF)codec as they do not want it used in third party programs which may prevent certain programs other than Windows media player from using it correctly causing compression errors.
There is a way around the microsoft restrictions. I noticed my tmpgenc won't even show WMV ASF files when browsing for a source. Since ASF is encoded using mpeg-4, I simply rename the ASF giving it a MPG extention. It worked for me.
you need the hacked microsoft v2 codecs as ashy has suggested above
i'd also get the hacked microsoft v3 codecs, just for good measure, you dont need v3 to encode the video you have but it my come in handy for later use, i know i needed both codecs every now and then
Ok. I will try all that you have suggested. I cannot believe how many codecs I have installed lately. My computer is just about ready to throw up it's hands and say "enough". maybe I should start over.
>Did you use VirtualDub14c-asf?
>This is a special version for ASF files
No, I have Vdub 1.3 and 1.4.13 installed. Tried both and neither would recognize the asf or avi file.
I find that if I use any features in ASFTools other than the "convert" function it gives me corrupted files. Still waiting to hear back from them on that issue.
>Also it is well known that media player 9 interferes and causes a lot of ...>My advice would be to get rid of it if you can and stick to version 8. You will find posts relating to this on this BBS.
I've looked thru the forum for references to WMP 8 and also searched online but I find that WMP goes from 7.1 to 9. Seems that 8 came with XP, but I cannot find it on the web. I should tell you that my OS is W2K. I have WMP Classic and 9X installed. Also have Power DVD.
Ok, so I'm going back to see if the file will play in Power DVD. Think I will have to re-do the file as I deleted the versions that play with the audio skips.
>I've looked thru the forum for references to WMP 8 and also searched online but I find that WMP goes from 7.1 to 9. Seems that 8 came with XP, but I cannot find it on the web. I should tell you that my OS is W2K. I have WMP Classic and 9X installed. Also have Power DVD.
Anyway, the damn file ... good thing it's only 1:44 minutes. I've removed all codecs; I've installed the Nemo pack and tried the file again. What happens now is the file plays to 1:11 and then the sound cuts out. Before it was skipping frames from about 25 seconds in.
I was reading that there are problems with DIVX 5.2 and am wondering if that has been fixed? The problematic symptoms as described in the literature appeares to be what I'm experiencing with this file. I've also checked some of my other files and they have tiny glitches, but not to the extent of this file.
Here is the file info from gspot.
Stream Type: AVI and Interleave: not supported (what ???)
video: MP43 s-mpeg4 ver 3
audio: divx 32 kb/s 16 ch stereo Fs 22050 hz
So why would the audio be fine for 1:11 minutes and then drop out?
This file is driving me crazy, but once the problem is solved them maybe the others will work without any glitches .... one can only hope.
Whenever I use Merge & Cut to, say, remove the commercials leading into and at the end of a television show, no matter how precise the cuts look while I'm doing them, after the file is multiplexed, there usually (but not always) seems to be a split second that the edit let slip by. What I mean by that is, after the end of the television show, where the cut is supposed to be, there usually seems to be an extra split second of the commercial I could have sworn I cut. I'll even go back, try to cut an extra couple of tenths of a second off the end and it'll still be there.
Any particular reason for this behavior and is there any way to get around it?
This is because MPEGs aren't really maent to be edited. MPEGs can only be cut at I-frames therefore TMPG will shift the cut to the neaest I frame.
If you wish to cut on a frame that isn't an I frame then you will need frame accurate editor such as MPEG2VCR. MPEG2VCR will re-encode the GOP where the intended frame cut is.
AVI's are a little bit different but the same basic principle. AVI's use keyframes so your cut will not be exact if you cut between keyframes.
If you are looking to cut mpeg's exact, you can use tmpgenc "force picture type" in the advanced tab, to insert an I frame exactly where you want to cut.
>Whenever I use Merge & Cut to, say, remove the commercials leading into and at the end of a television show, no matter how precise the cuts look while I'm doing them, after the file is multiplexed, there usually (but not always) seems to be a split second that the edit let slip by. What I mean by that is, after the end of the television show, where the cut is supposed to be, there usually seems to be an extra split second of the commercial I could have sworn I cut. I'll even go back, try to cut an extra couple of tenths of a second off the end and it'll still be there.
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>Any particular reason for this behavior and is there any way to get around it?
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>Thanks.
>try renaming the file to ".mpv", then you can cut in "source range" section to an exact frame. tt
I have converted an avi file to mpg1 in order to burn with Nero but the file is too large to fit on one cd and I can't figure out how to cut it into two files. Any idea on how to do this? Thanks for your help.
You say you converted to mpeg-1 "in order to burn with nero". I know you probably already know you can burn an AVI to a data cd. so I'll assume you are trying to burn a video CD. IF, and only IF you are burning a video CD, your mpeg can be 800meg for a 700mb cd. You can't just burn a data cd with an mpeg-1 on it unless it's under 700mb(or whatever size Cd you have). This is because the video cd format does not use that extra 100 meg for error correction, like a data cd does.
It's best to split your AVI's so that they are under one hour, 19min using virtualdub. Then use tmpgenc to encode the 2 files into mpeg-1 format. Do it that way, and you'll never end up with an mpeg that has to be split. It's much easier to cut an AVI ahead of time, so you don't have to mess with cutting an MPEG. Also, cutting an MPEG can sometimes render it non-compliant for video CD.
Cut your AVI's so that they are under 1 hour, 19 min before converting to MPEG!