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I am trying to convert a .divX movie file to mpeg or VCD....however I get an error: "file name.divx cannot open, or unsupported" Am I wrong to assume that this program does not convert .divX files to other formats?
I'm currently using TmpgEnc create dvd from mpeg "dowloaded" from sat.
My Target is a PAL DVD at Half D1 size (352*576).
I use an AviSynth script to do the following:
1 - Separate the fields of the source video
2 - Crop them and resize them singularly to 320x256
3 - adding a 16 pixel black border to 352x288
4 - Rebuild an interlaced frame 352*576 in size
I produce and Avi File with a lossless coded wich I then
(finally :)) compress with TmpgEnc.
I use CQ at 100% quality 8000 as maximum bitrate 0 minimum bitrate.
VBV size is 40.
During PlayBack the movie shows some sudden gaps in playback.
I read some other posts on this BBS and I think that is the main
cuplrit of this are VBV too small.
My questions are:
1 - Is there a way to calculate an appropriate value for VBV or I
Should just set it to 0 and let TmpgEnc do the job ?
2 - It is better to add the borders to the file or it it better to let
TmpgEnc to center the image and add the borders by himself ?
3 - The resulting Mpeg has a average bitrate of 3500, in other posts
I have read that the minimum bitrate should not be set to 0.
Has anyone some indications of how to calculate an appropriate value ?
Should I also padded it ?
Thanks in advance for any help.
I also welcome any comment on the process used.
I'll raise the VBV size to 224 and I'll run some tests.
BTW. is it possible to change it without re-encodig the video ?
> 320x256 is a bit small for a single field, better resize to 336x280
I choose that dimension because I want to make the borders size a multiple
of 16 which is the MPEG block size.
The resulting size is within the PAL Safe area anyways.
> CQ of 100% gives you a kind of CBR-Encoding.
Do you mean that I sholud lower it ?
> Oh, and there's no need to produce an AVI first, open the AVISynth-Scriptdi rectly in TMPGEnc.
You are right, but at the end of my avisynth script there is a Trim istruction
yhat TMPGEnc. seems to ignore :(
First off, I thought mpeg block sizes were in multiples of 8, not 16, I could be wrong.
Also, I wouldn't use a minimum bit-rate of 0, if I want max quality, I do min and max of 8000 in tmpgenc, because thats the max value, although it is my understanding, DVD format supports up to 9000? Is this not correct?
You're idea of adding a black border is a good idea, I've wanted to know how to do that without simply cropping or letterboxing in Flask. Now I know I can use avisynth to do it. The reason, is becaues the overscan on most TV's is too aggressive, and I have AVI's that play perfect on my computer, but the subtitles, get cut off on the bottom and sometimes at the edge of the screen. So your idea of adding a black border is good, don't assume that TMPGenc will encode and center everything properly, because it will still cut things off if they are close to the edge of the screen on your computer. Some TV's are worse than others of course.
Also, it is my understanding that CQ looks better than CBR, and is smaller too. I haven't been able to tell much difference, because so far I've only been encoding Anime, so the quality isn't super great to begin with.
> First off, I thought mpeg block sizes were in multiples of 8, not 16, I could be wrong.
I found this information on the Avisynth user guide.
I used to make SVCD with the same concept, ie black borders,
so I can use the bandwith for something i will actually see.
The aspect size is sligthly off specs by it is unnoticeable.
During the playback on my TV I only see a small (couple of line) black line in
the bottom.
I will try to set the VBV size to 0 to see if TMPGEnc does it's job. :)
> I choose that dimension because I want to make the borders size a multiple
of 16 which is the MPEG block size.
Yeah, that's right, but consider on: You are encoding with half of the full resolution, so 32 Pixels will become 64 while decoding. So it's posible to see black bars at the Sides of your Video. That's why i suggest you to use 336 instead of 320.
336+16=??? 352 ;)
> The resulting size is within the PAL Safe area anyways.
See what i wroth on top of this posting.
> but at the end of my avisynth script there is a Trim istruction
> that TMPGEnc. seems to ignore :(
TMPGenc will not ignore anything in a correct AVISynth-Script. Guess there's some misspelling inside the Script. Oh, and TMPGEnc is also able to do such cuttings/trimmings. (Advanced -> Source range -> cut editing
>I found this information on the Avisynth user guide.
>I used to make SVCD with the same concept, ie black borders,
>so I can use the bandwith for something i will actually see.
>The aspect size is sligthly off specs by it is unnoticeable.
>
>During the playback on my TV I only see a small (couple of line) black line in
>the bottom.
So do you lose any quality, when you add the black bars? Because the AVi's I encode are already 4:3, so if I added black bars, I would be shrinking the video, does that make for loss of video quality, or is it small enough to not really be noticeable?
I would much rather have a slight letterboxing effect, than to have parts of my video cut-off.
>So do you lose any quality, when you add the black bars? Because the AVi's I >encode are already 4:3, so if I added black bars, I would be shrinking the video, >does that make for loss of video quality, or is it small enough to not really be >noticeable?
I do shrinking the video ideed.
The material I'm encoding comes from Digital Satellite. so it is not always
comply to DVD specs, that's why I have to reencode it
I do shrink the video and I add the 16 pixel border.
The outoput play perfectly on my TV,there is not visible (at list to my eye)
defference from the source material.
>TMPGenc will not ignore anything in a correct AVISynth-Script. Guess there's some >misspelling inside the Script. Oh, and TMPGEnc is also able to do such >cuttings/trimmings. (Advanced -> Source range -> cut editing
I agree, the same script works as expected on VirtualDub, it is only TMPGEnc.
Very bizarre behaviour wich I'm still investigating, there is probably some
problem vith the VFApi plugin.
>Yeah, that's right, but consider on: You are encoding with half of the full >resolution, so 32 Pixels will become 64 while decoding. So it's posible to see >black bars at the Sides of your Video. That's why i suggest you to use 336 >instead of 320.
>336+16=??? 352 ;)
I did not understand the statement.
The width of the TV frame is still the same, there is only less pixels.
The size of 32 pixels at Half D1 is the same that 64 pixels at Full D1.
I do not see black bars, at least in my TV.
On YOUR TV, OK. But if i would play your Disc on my TV, than it's an other story. The visible Area of my TV is arround 664x538 (Full-D1 PAL). So the minimum size for Half-D1 is 332x538 without black bars arround the Picture.
If you are Captureing From Satalite and file use a strange resolution Like 544+480 you can still author it to DVD and it Might work, The program i usually use to Author DVD"s DVD-Lab has features for Authoring non-standard resolution Files Like Satalite TS Mpeg2 streams which Might be something to try ......
I have a problem setting Colors with Tmpgenc. I record MPEG2 File from my TV Card with Video Bitrate 9000 and Audio 224. This file i change to DVD which works out Perfect. Now i try to change this to MPEG1 (Non Standard) with Tmpgenc for my Pocket PC (Ipaq H2210). I take following Settings
Video= MPEG1 (Non Standard)
Size = 352x288
Video Bitrate= 600
Audio= 44100/128/ Joint Stereo
With these settings i get the best results for my Pocket PC and the File Size also work out Perfect (110 min Film = 580 MB)
The only problem is on my Ipaq the Colors are very pale like less Red. I tried to change the Red Colors during Encoding MPEG1 (in Simple Color Correction) and tried so many different settings but could not get the better colors. Otherwise the film is Excellent but the colors does not comeup right.
Has anyone a Idea...??
When I convert a DVD (with DVD2AVI+WAV) and have the same Resolution which i wrote above, the quality of MPEG1 (after encoding with TMPGenc) is excellent.
This Bitrate i use because i want MPEG1 for Pocket PC (IPAQ H2210).
The Only problem is with MPEG2 File which i Record with my TV Card (Cinergy 400)
and the Quality of this Orignal MPEG2 itself is excellent with 9000 Kbit Bitrate.
If they provided more details for the Video, GOP, and etc. menus, it'd be easier to see. Maybe they just used that one screen? Their first shot did not look familiar at all. Maybe it is fake program to steal money? Or maybe it's a bootleg...
Hello. I have a movie sized 712x400. It's in widescreen because it is wide and the top and bottom black bars have been clipped out from the video file. The characters look fine, they don't look stretched out. So what settings for Video Arrange Method in TMPGEnc should I select to maintain the widescreen? I want to make an XVCD. Again, here are the weird settings I use:
Output Size: 480x480
RCM: Constant Quality
Bitrate: 2520 kbits/sec
Motion Search: Normal
Video Arrange Method: Center (420x420)
The reason why I have the VAM at center is because the side won't go off the TV screen. But it won't work for this widescreen because it stretches the video to drastic measures! Should I make it 420x400? Please teach me how you make the calculations in easy steps so I don't have to ask again next time (I have another widescreen movie that I might need help with next time). Thanks! :)
Woops, I forgot to add. I need to add some subtitles to the video too. But, the subs have 2 parts, a SUB and an IDX file. The creator said that you need both in order to view the subtitles correctly and their filenames must be the same as the AVI file. While I know the subtitling process via Virtualdub, I don't get what to do with this SUB and IDX file. :( Help? Also, Virtualdub only accepts SSA files. :(
>Hello. I have a movie sized 712x400. It's in widescreen because it is wide and the top and bottom black bars have been clipped out from the video file. The characters look fine, they don't look stretched out. So what settings for Video Arrange Method in TMPGEnc should I select to maintain the widescreen? I want to make an XVCD.
set ur source aspect ratio to 16:9(fullscreen keep aspect ratio) not centre
But I don't have a widescreen TV. And I need to keep it center at 420x420 for non-widescreen movies for overscans. So now I don't know what to do with this widescreen movie because setting it at that might turn out to be too wide.
i dont have a widescreen tv either, do u notice that nearly all dvds are 16:9 widescreen, you dont lose any picture with a dvd do ya, you just get the black bars at top and bottom of screen which is fine yea?
thats exactly what you'll get if you do 16:9 (fullscreen keep aspect ratio), i promise you, ive encoded many widescreen xvids with this method and i never get any cut-offs
try encoding a little 30sec segment of your vid (so you dont have to wait a long time for end result) with these settings and you'll c what i mean
Thanks, I'll try it. But will converting it that include overscans? Because I must leave a 30 pixel border on each site so my subtitles won't go off the screen...
if you use the standard templates with the settings i said b4, you shouldnt have any cuts what so ever, although i havent tried with subs =/, but that shouldnt really make a differance
also my non widescreen tv only overscans when i 'dont' use the settings that ive said b4, it could b ur settings causing the overscan
No. Before I was using one of TMPGEnc's default VCD templates. And most of the times, long subtitles would go off the screen. Therefore, I experimented and found that setting the VAM at center 420x420 works best for me. The subtitles stayed on screen.
I think I know what you mean by 16:9. Before, I selected 4:3 525 lines NTSC under aspect ratio. So now, I selected 16:9 525 lines NTSC. Is that correct? Also, would that selection work for a video with a size of 640x360?
for source aspect ratio there should be an option with just 16:9 (not 16:9 ntsc, pal, blah blah ect) then set the video arrange method to full screen keep aspect ratio
settings:
source aspect settings: 16:9 display
video arrange method: full screen keep aspect ratio
if you use standard templates and those exact settings you will have no cut offs
Oooh! I get what you're saying. I had originally set SOURCE Aspect Ratio as 1:1 VGA. And then under Video Stream Settings for Aspect Ratio, I set it at 16:9 525 line (NTSC). Now that I know what the problem is, what should I set the aspect ratio under Video Stream settings?
Sorry, even setting it at 16:9 Display doesn't work. The characters are too plump. Just a side note, I downloaded this movie. It's a DVD-rip. So wouldn't it make sense to set the source aspect ratio as 1:1 VGA
but do you get any over scan?? is it fitting the screen??
>source aspect settings: 16:9 display
video arrange method: full screen keep aspect ratio
(use the standard templates)
if you use those settings and it still doesnt work, well im at a loss
i'll say this again i use those exact settings and NEVER get any troubles (cut offs, obscure picture ect ect). if you have actually done what ive said and you are having problems with cutt offs or whatever, then i dont know what it could be.
and by the way, if you dont already know this (you probably do) the coverted movie will have different resolution than the original movie, which may or may not be causing the 'plumpness' as you say, but if the movie is fitting the screen well i'd take plumpness over terrible overscan anyday
I'm creating an X(S)VCD where the resolution is 480x480. And no, I don't think there is too much overscan, or there is too little overscan that I don't notice.
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 525 line NTSC
Source Aspect Ratio: 1:1 VGA
Video Arrange Method: Center (480x360)
It works perfectly well for some unknown reason. The reason why I set it at 360 is because the source video's height was also 360. It work well anyway.
Hi, I am trying to convert svcd (mpeg2) to vcd format using VCDTrick. It works great for most files. But I am seeing problems while multiplexing some of the files. While doing simple multiplexing, part of the file is missing. I am not sure the reason for this. I really appreciate if someone could help me on this.
I'm new at this. I am getting mono sound from my encoding. Great picture but not stereo. I am assuming that I have to separate the audio, does TMPG do that itself first? What do I use to put the files back together afterwards. Not a natural english reader.
Well If your Source File is Mono you will never get True sterio..All you need to do is Choose "Sterio" on the audio Settings and you should get a sterio Mpeg file but if your source file is Mono you will get a Psudo Sterio File with the same Chanell being Played out both speakers.....
Hi, I'm a new user and I'm trying to convert a .wmv file to .mpg to put a small 320X240 video on my webpage to have a variety of available video formats for the user to view. I've already converted many of my .wmv files except one older file [bit rate: 235Kbps; 320X240; 20 kbps; 32 kHz; mono 1-pass CBR] that comes out pixelated and choppy. Is there an appropriate setting or filter for this bit rate? Thank you!
Well Choppynes could because you are makeing a Mpeg files with a different Frame rate as the WMV Files..Tmpgenc does not convert Frame rates Properly, Pluss a WMV Files at such a Low Bitrate is going to be Quite Low Quality and even Lower when encodieng to Mpeg at a Low Bitrate, so you can either Raise the Bitrate which will help or deal with it, You can"t expect very high quality when the source is a Low Quality format Like WMV...
I recently installed TMPGEnc Plus 2.5. I've used previous versions in the past and without any problems. I am trying to encode and avi(huffyyuv) file to mpeg2. When I choose the file I wish to encode and select next. A window appears with a progress bar. The window is titled "Judging field order...". THe progress bar immediately jumps to 8% and then stops. The task manager indicates that the app is not responding however if I leave it for 2 hours it does eventually complete. It normally completes at appox 8% every 10 minutes. Patiently I waited and returned to learn that my 2hr avi file had completed the "Judging field order..." in just over 2hrs :(. Then I selected the crop video in order to chop a few seconds of the start and end of the video. When I tried to advace frames the hourglass appeared and the app hung once again. I decided to closed the app and search for some info on this issue. Can anyone help with this?
I am running Windows XP Professional on an AMD Athlon 2800+ with 1024MB of Twin DDR333 Corsair Memory. I have three 160GB Seagate Barracuda Hard Drives with plenty of space.
Try this, Go into your HuffyUV Codec settings and enable the "Allways Suggest RGB Format for Output" option and see if this helps...OR ,Don"t use the WiZard, Tmpgenc only does the Judgeing Field order when useing the WiZard so if you don"t use it it will not freeze...Cheers
If you check out the Japanese version of the TMPGEnc web site, you can find out about the new TMPGEnc 3.0. It was released for Japanese beta testers who have a Sony VAIO last month.
The new features look exciting:
It will have a completely redesigned user interface similar to TMPGEnc DVD Author.
TMPGEnc can now handle YUV colorspace. (No more forced conversion to RGB24!!!)
The MPEG1/MPEG2 encoding engine were rewritten which gives better quality and a much needed speed improvement.
The filters have been done allowing for real time preview. The noise reduction filter has been greatly improved. Users now have the option of resize filters such as Lanczos, bilinear, etc.
These are just some of features listed in Japanese section.
hi
I am creating vcd-pal ,and im using virtual dub for frame serving , but vhen i load virtual dub-s output file in tmpgc , there are no subtitles found. Hov can i include subtitles in these case?
Can i somhov include them in mpg file
Thanks
I know how it's so frustrating where you converted to MPEG but something's not right and you have to convert all over again. I did that once.
To add subtitles, you must first go into Virtualdub's folder and click on the auxsetup.exe. Click on "install handler" to enable frameserving (I guess you've already done this part). Then, go download the latest subtitle filter here:
Open the ZIP file and extract the VDF file into the Plugin folder (that's in the Virtualdub folder). Open Virtualdub, open your AVI file. Click on "Video" and then "Filters". Click "Add" and then click "Load". Go to your Plugins folder and double-click on the VDF file you extracted. Then in the list, double-click "subtitler" and then select your subtitle file in SSA format. After that, do your usual frameserving and then convert like you normally do in TMPGEnc. :) In Virtualdub, you can't edit the subtitles style though. Hope that helped!