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hi, i tried this software and after i've converted a movie to vcd format and tryed to play, there was no sound in it (under win2k), only on my computer or it will be the same on my dvd player? please help me....
There is No Sound in the Mpeg file because the Audio in your Source AVO file was of a format that is Not supported by Tmpgenc..So before encodeing you have to Extract the audio from your AVI file to Wav format then use the Wav file as your Audio Source in Tmpgenc..You can extract the audio useing something like "Virtual Dub"....
if an avi has a framerate of 23.976 (ie it's NTSC encoded) can I convert it to an mpeg-1 with a frame rate of 25 (and change the other settings too) so that it will be viewable on a PAL TV?
Or can you only convert an NTSC avi to an NTSC mpeg-1?
Whenever I convert a file in TMPGEnc, my computer shuts down halfway through. I've found that it doesn't always do this when I keep the computer active, but it still does it even when I've only left it idle for 3mins. Does anyone know what this might be, or how I can fix it?
This Could be any of a Number of things of which None really have to do with Tmpgenc....It could be that your Proscessor is OverHeating because encodeing is extremely CPU Intensive and your CPU Heat will Jump when you start encodeing.....
I'm having problems with the size of the file output. It nere seems to be what the program "estimates" before encoding... I am working from a D2V+wAV format, and am trying to burn a DVD... I have messed with the bit rate repeatedly to no avail... is there something I am missing? I mean, I set it up and hit start with it saying the end product will be an MPG of about 650Mb and it will turn out like 1.05Gb.. I don't get it...
I am using my Equillibrium DVD to test some tutorials. So the original file tends to be about 5.5G. The 650 (or 700) meg file is what I am trying to encode after running it through DVD2AVI for frame serving purposes.
I used this tutorial: http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/84759.php
for info on how to crunch it to one VCD, but if you read through the tutorial the person that wrote it is clearly uninformed and most of the setting he says to use without any reason for them... some of them he even states are just guessing on his part.
The settings I use are this:
Vid Info (from self made template):
Resolution: 352x240 pixels
Framerate: 29.97 fps
Bitrate: average 1150 Kbps (this is just the default I have dropped the bitrate to 352 without getting smaller file size)
Audio Info:
Samp Freq: 44100 Hz
Number of Channels: 2ch Stereo (when I DVD2AVI I chose to export it like this as well)
bitrate: 224 Kbps (often change this trying to shrink the file size)
For source I have:
Vid File: .../equillibrium.dv2
audio file: .../equillibrium AC3 TO1 3_2ch 448Kbps 44.1Khz.wav
Settings;
Vid Type: interlace
Field Order: Top Field First (field a) (have tried bottom first on someone's suggestion as well)
16:9 525 line (NTSC)
Bitrate Settings:
Movie Info: 352x240 29.97 fps / 44100 Hz Stereo / 106 min 50 sec
Vid Res: [greyed out] 352x240 pixels
Average vid bitrate: 710 kbits/sec
Audio btrate: 224 kbits/sec
estimated filesize: 726.35 MB
media type: CD-R 74min (vcd/svcd) makes filesize 99.77% of disk capacity
I got my bitrate from the " Forte for Java " calculator that I loaded to my server (http://clixim.com/calc/)... am I missing something here or is this just not possible? I mean I know that the run time is extensive but I wasn't sure if that mattered... with that or the file size being the VCD governing agent. Still the problem is that it won't let me output a file at the size it claims to.
If you are Trying to use a Lower than Standard Bitrate for VCD then you have to change the "System" setting to "Video-CD NON-Standard" and you know you can fit about 750mb on a 650MB CD and about 800mb on a 700mb CD in VCD Format, and you should also know that Useing a Lower than Standard VCD Bitrate will Only serve to Make a Awefull Looking VCD so if your Goal is to Fit a Full Movie on a Single CD-R then you are Going to have a Really Bad Looking VCD, So Don"yt try to put more than 80minutes of Video on a 70MB CD-R.....
The calculations for the file size are correct.
Your problem is that you are attempting to make a 'non standard VCD' using the 'standard VCD' template.
If you wish to lower the bitrate then you will be creating a 'Non standard VCD' and thus you will need to go into the expert settings and change the stream setting to 'MPEG1 VCD (non standard)' otherwise padding will be added to the output.
You will find the stream setting under the 'System' tab. You will have to unlock the setting first by right cliking on the words 'Stream type'
You can remove the padding from the existing MPEG you have created by running it through the 'simple multiplexer' using the above mentioned stream setting.
Also be aware that what you are attempting to do will produce awful results. You should really split this between 2 80 min disks and raise the bitrate.
I could just as easily burn them to DVD (have the Sony DRU 510A) but I want to try to fit it on a CD because they are going to be semi disposable... I plan on sending them to my brother-in-law in Iraq (in the army) and would rather go the cheap route.. he only has one of those mini personal dvd players, so I am sure that the quality isn't going to be that great anyway...
Thanks for the info, I never would have found that... so under system I change it to VCD/MPG-2 (non-standard)... I'll go try that now... thanks again, guys!
Hi i have the free version and i still have time on the mpeg2 usage...every time i try to go to merg and cut in the mpeg tools section in order to cut out clips from the main file, it loads the file...but it will freeze up if i try to move the slider or use the time code boxes. im running an athlon xp 2000+ with an nvidia ti 4400 graphics card. i have 768 megs of ddr pc2100 ram. I have lots of hd space formatted in ntfs and im running windows xp pro with sp1. any help would be appreciated...
i have a 62min 31sec in length of an avi+ac3 xvid file.i set the audio to 384kbps bcos i want to have mpeg2 5.1 mutichannel audiostream. how do i set the max,average & min bitrate in 2-pass vbr mode for svcd into 80min cd-r?
Well First off Tmpgenc does not support AC3 audio as an audio source (Unless you have a specific decoder installed but even then it allways downmixes 5.1 to sterio) and even if it did it would not encode it to Mpeg 5.1...If you want Mpeg 5.1 From your AC3 you are going to have to find some other way of doing it, I hear that Maybe ReMpeg can do it...as for what Bitrate you should use you Should use a Bitrate Calculator to determine what Bitrate you should use, But the Bitrate calculator will only tell you the Bitrate you should use if you were useing CBR, But you can use that Bitrate as the Average bitrate then you can pick and Max and Min Bitrate that you feel is Good..But remember for SVCD the Max bitrate shouldn"t go above about 2500kbs for a Standard SVCD...And about 5.1 Mpeg audio ,Do you know that your DVD Player will Play Mpeg 5.1 Because it is Not part of the SVCD standard and Not many Players will play it...well good Luck
If you want to find out the exact bitrate to use for encoding a MPEG which will fit an 80min CD then any MPEG bitrate calculator will do.
These calculators will give you the max and average bitrate to use for VBR not just CBR.
Here is a pretty acurate one: http://www.tomzavodny.cz/program/bitcalc/index_en.php
Why not just use TMPGs own calculator in the project wizard?
For encoding to MPEG 5.1 audio you can use the program below, but be aware that MPEG 5.1 is not fully supported in the VCD,SVCD or DVD standard and thus may not work in some DVD players. If I were you I would stick to down mixing to Dolbly surround audio. http://hypercubemx.free.fr/
DVD Bitrate Calc
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Here's a nice online one designed for ease of use when encoding with TMPGEnc: http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html
It has settings for dvd/(s)vcd, and cbr/vbr bit-rates.
AC3 5.1
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If you're ripping from an AVI which has AC3 audio (2ch or 6ch), a decent way is to use VirtualDub to direct stream copy the audio into a faux-wav file. Then use AC3Fix (simple to use command line tool you can find on the net) to remove virtualdub's wav header, and make it a true AC3 stream.
For future refrence, if you have an avi which doesn't have AC3 audio, but wish to use it instead of PCM or MPEGII audio, you can rip the audio using virualdub, and then use BeSweet to convert it into 2ch AC3.
Then you can use TMPGEnc DVD Author to write the mpeg2/ac3 vob files.
>If you're ripping from an AVI which has AC3 audio (2ch or 6ch), a decent way is to use VirtualDub to direct stream copy the audio into a faux-wav file. Then use AC3Fix (simple to use command line tool you can find on the net) to remove virtualdub's wav header, and make it a true AC3 stream.
No need to do it that way, just use either AVIMUX04, 'Virtualdub mod' or Virtualdub_ac3.
i just found out the "incompatible" batchlister file is cause by a "wrong" (?)template
if you try you will see that if works for the standard templates
if you did "unlock" the settings by loading the unlockmcf in the extra folder lock them again
(make a lock.mcf file by loading the unlock.mcf file in notepad en replace all "False" by "True")
then load the simple dvd template and edit again
I use a Personal Cinema Nvidia TV/ Video Card with WinDVR to record shows.
The end result depending on choosing Good-Better-Best Setting on my recording, the resulting video is an Mpeg and depending on the setting results in the quality of capture. I have in the past used TMPEnc to edit the Movie to remove commercials, then remerge the saved Mpgs to complete the "edited" movie, is has been no problem in the past, I keep upgrading my version TMPGEnc, so I don't know if my problem is from the newer version. My problem is c:folder"movie".mpeg can not be opened, or is unsupported. I kept my last few recordings to the "good" capture setting, but the message still apply's. All other uses for the software have always worked fine. Please HELP!
Has anyone out there purchased TMPGENC (either author or encode)
after using the trial version?
How the heck do I get the software to run again?
It doesn't ask me to enter the license, and I've tried
quite a few different things... not much info on the web site.
MANY THANKS!!!!
Signed,
Frustrated!
P.S.
I had to switch browsers to get to the purchase page, so its frustration
on top of frustration.
UUmm...You do not register the Trial Version...The Trial version is Just that a Trial version Once it Runs out that is it....You need to download and Install the "Plus" version, that is the Version you register...So what you have to do is Click the Banner at the Bottom of this Page, then click" Download" and then "Tmpgenc Plus 2.5" and then you have it...and from there you will figure it out....Cheers
i have a digital camera
with that i record in squeezed mode so that i can play if on my widescreen in the right aspect ratio
that work perfectly
but now
i want to encode a LOT of those dv/avi files
when i load a setting which works (i know for sure)
i have to set the source aspect ratio to 16:9 by hand for tmpgenc to encode the file properly
that works perfectly.
the endresult plays "fullscreen" on a widescreen tv and "widescreen" on a 4:3 tv
no problems there
but now i have to encode about 80 avi files
do i need to load then individually, set the right source aspect ratio and make a project file?
i tried adrew doyles batchfile maker but then i load the tbe file it make tmpgenc comes with an error "= after line 21" or somthing like that?
I have the same problem and I cant seem to get the batchlister to work at home. I tried it at work with W98 and the test avi that comes with Ulead, and it worked, but when I duplicated it at home with proper avi type 1 files on Win2000 I received that error.
I have resorted to using Tmpgenc's own list maker using that tedious process of saving each file as a tpr.
A little working trick is to edit some of the standard things like Source Aspect in the Batch List view by clicking on each list item, which saves a bit of clicks because they same tab will load each time.
thanks for the answer
i am using batchlister 3.0 too
but the output .tbe of batchlister and tmpgenc seem to be in a totally different format.
piece of batchlister 3.0 output;
object TTMPGEncBatchEncodeList
List = <
item
JOB.MPEG.Text = 'DV/avi 2 to SVCD'
JOB.MPEG.WizardCategoryName = '$$HIDE'
JOB.MPEG.WizardSubFormatName = ''
JOB.MPEG.WizardCaption = ''
The line I'm refering to is in the .tbe that batchlister creates not the one TMPG creates.
The TMPG one is unreadable as you say.
I'm using TMPGEnc-2.520.54.163-Plus-EN
OK, this might get long, but I want to put it all out there to avoid guesses posing as answers.
(Hardware: 1700gig Athlon, 512megs ram, SIS AGP video with 8mb ram, I know, I know.)
The good experience: I have a number of 8mm analog tapes, basic 8mm, not Hi-8. Based on a bit of research, I determined that the quality level is 352x240 and about 2400 bits/sec, like VHS. I played the tapes in my Sony D8, output to AVI (what a waste!), edited in Studio 8, then used TMPBEnc to convert to MPEG 1's and 2's. If I used a CBR of 3000, I got pretty decent VHS quality files. I also used Auto VBR @50%. Both Audio specs were set to 48k sampling and 128 bits. No Dolby originals here!
Generally, I was VERY pleased. The CBR's file size averaged about 11% of the AVI, and the Auto VBR's, less than half of that! In fact, I got almost 5 hours of video with some room left over onto a DVD-R using Ulead DVD Movie Factory. For just duplicating family video "snapshots", the quality was adequate. And I kept the CBR's on two DVD's as basic data files.
AND NOW FOR THE HEADBANGING! So, now I want to do the same thing with my DV tapes, except I would like to keep most or all of the quality that DV gives me. I had played around with MPEG2 renderings in Studio, and all I got was lots of jaggies with panning or action. You oughtta see a hula hoop! So I selected a clip and started experimenting with TMPGEnc. Essentially, the same thing. I tried a lot of bit rates, Auto, CBR, just about everything. High bit rates helped somewhat, but did not cure the problem. If I went back to my old 352x240, no problem. And the detail level, while less, wasn't catastrophically so. I should add that everything was played back on Zoom Player or my standalone Apex 1200.
I've searched this forum and www.dvdrhelp.com without much genuine insight. One responder to a similar question on this forum said it was a matter of interlaced (TV) vs. progressive (computer) output. If I render "non-interlaced" I just get a strange colored video - with jaggies.
A related question is this: DV has a bit rate of 3745 kb/sec or so. There are never any jaggies or other motion related problems when playing as a tape or AVI. Why would anyone use a greater bit rate? You can't increase what isn't there, right? Something I'm not getting? Do I have to burn many platters to test every quality variation on the standalone?
Any resident TMPGEnc geniuses out there with genuine answers? Is all this related to inadequate video ram? If so, does that mean a cheapie standalone DVD player has more video ram and better processing for $50, less than a better video card?
I know this is a lot to cover, but it seems variations of my question comes up all over the forums and usenets.
>Generally, I was VERY pleased. The CBR's file size averaged about 11% of the AVI, and the Auto VBR's, less than half of that! In fact, I got almost 5 hours of video with some room left over onto a DVD-R using Ulead DVD Movie Factory. For just duplicating family video "snapshots", the quality was adequate. And I kept the CBR's on two DVD's as basic data files.
If you want better quality vs file size then you would be better of using the 'CQ' method of encoding NOT 'Auto VBR' or CBR
>I had played around with MPEG2 renderings in Studio, and all I got was lots of jaggies with panning or action. You oughtta see a hula hoop! So I selected a clip and started experimenting with TMPGEnc. Essentially, the same thing. I tried a lot of bit rates, Auto, CBR, just about everything. High bit rates helped somewhat, but did not cure the problem. If I went back to my old 352x240, no problem
What resolution are your DV's, 720x480?
This seems most likely an interlacing and/or resizing problem.
If your DV's are interlaced then you should encode to interlaced, as for the jaggies DO NOT rely on what you see on your monitor for judgment.
Monitors CANNOT display interlaced material correctly and will almost always invariably result in these type of artifacts. You will most likely NOT have the same problem when viewed on a regular TV.
You will not experience interlacing problems with material that has a resolution of 352x240.
At this resolution you are only viewing half of the lines in the video, the other half is discarded therfore there will be no interlacing problem to speak of.
>One responder to a similar question on this forum said it was a matter of interlaced (TV) vs. progressive (computer) output. If I render "non-interlaced" I just get a strange colored video - with jaggies.
Encoding to 'non-interlace' will NOT automatically give a de-interlaced output from an interlaced source.If you intend this material to be viewed mostly on a PC then you should either de-interlace the material prior to encoding and then encode to progressive (non-interlaced) or encode to 'interlaced' and use a software DVD player to view the material which will bob de-interlace on the fly while playing.
Also you should encode to MPEG2 for max compatibity and quality. MPEG1 does NOT support interlaced material.
>For just duplicating family video "snapshots", the quality was adequate. And I kept the CBR's on two DVD's as basic data files.
This is just a pointless waste of a DVD. You should author this DVD properly. Not only will this make it compatible for all set top players AND PC players, but it will also allow you to fit slightly more data on the disk.
Ordinary data uses more space on disk due to parity data being added, this data is not required with MPEG data.
>A related question is this: DV has a bit rate of 3745 kb/sec or so. There are never any jaggies or other motion related problems when playing as a tape or AVI. Why would anyone use a greater bit rate? You can't increase what isn't there, right? Something I'm not getting? Do I have to burn many platters to test every quality variation on the standalone?
You CANNOT compare bitrates between different compression methods, different methods use different algorithms and AVI generally has a better compression ratio than MPEG.
Just because an AVI uses a bitrate of 3745 Kb/sec it does not mean you can obtain the same quality using this bitrate when encoding to MPEG. In fact you will probably have to double this bitrate to acheive the same quality when using MPEG 1/2.
My advice to you is to de-interlace and re-size this material with AVIsynth and then encode this material as MPEG2 progressive frames. You will need to use a decent bitrate if you wish to maintain the quality of the original DV. Use the CQ method and don't use a min bitrate below 2000 Kb/s, at least a max of 6000 kb/s, Q - 65-80 and a resolution of 720x480 (depending on whether your DV is full res), but even then you may experience some macroblocks. In that case you will need to raise the max bitrate.
Don't even contemplate fitting any more than 2 hours per DVD if you want to maintain the original DV quality.
5/6 hours per DVD will just require such a low bitrate that you will degrade the quality to like VCD.
Author this DVD properly as Video not data.
>Any resident TMPGEnc geniuses out there with genuine answers? Is all this related to inadequate video ram? If so, does that mean a cheapie standalone DVD player has more video ram and better processing for $50, less than a better video card?
None of this is related to either your RAM or your video card, but you will almost always get a better quality output from a standalone DVD player than a PC.
Ashy, you are a bloomin' genius! And that link you referred to, wow!
I'm just absolutely appalled that all these software vendors, Ulead, Pinnacle, TMPGEnc, etc. just pretend like this problem doesn't exist. Even the latter defaults all the rendering to a 720x480 NTSC size. It's sort of like saying that if you choose to make your car go faster you must understand chemical engineering for the gasoline and the Otto cycle for the engine.
From what I gathered on that link, rendering into 352x240 is as good as it gets unless one is willing to sacrifice lots of time and file size to get near DV quality without mice teeth and motion problems. So my digital 8mm is worthless in quality unless I use it as tape directly to the TV. Unreal.
Hoping this is a simple question, but I didn't find a direct answer (yet).
What would be the best path to comvert a series of computer-generated bitmaps to an MPEG-1 VCD file. I see that I can use JPEG or BMP as source files, but I haven't found an example, or any tips on the best way.
Can I take a series of images: frame1.jpg, frame2.jpg, etc. and convert it this way.
Heck, I guess I should just try it, but I was hoping someone had done it already and had some handy pointers.
To do this you just name all of your Pic Files Like this "Frame-001.jpg, Frame-002.jpg, Frame-003.jpg, Frame-004.jpg Ect"...Then Run Tmpgenc and go to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" and put a Check in the Box next to "Open Sequence Files as Movie",(You might not need to do this with JPG files but check it just to be sure) Then Just Load in "Frame-001.jpg" and the Rest of the Files will load into Tmpgenc sequentually as you have Numbered them...And then just do your setting and Encode away....Cheers