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Question can you get rid of subtitles when encoding for vcd webcat 1 2002-05-16 12:14:11
Question Is my VOB Interlaced A or B or is it Progressive ChrisL 3 2002-05-16 03:10:07
Question Audio missing after conversion miron 0 2002-05-15 21:26:46
Question Soundproblems after cutting a MPEG1-file Michael Sutherland 2 2002-05-15 23:36:10
Question Need a proggie that can crop MPEG files.....any suggestions? Anon 5 2002-05-16 00:53:44
Question Retaining aspect ratio AlexB 0 2002-05-15 20:06:52
Question Retaining aspect ratio AlexB 3 2002-05-15 20:21:36
Bug report Missing Posts :-S Anon 2 2002-05-16 00:03:05
Question Problem with source range djinn69 1 2002-05-15 21:31:13
Question No picture after Conversion toMPEG Willy 1 2002-05-15 15:18:18
Question Audio problem looking like dropped frames Jules Claes 3 2002-05-15 23:08:46
Question GOP structure for MPEG 2 PAL bill 2 2002-05-16 08:33:41

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Question - can you get rid of subtitles when encoding for vcd No.21353
webcat  2002-05-16 01:00:48 ( ID:sbo0rixmisg )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

i just wanted to know if this program can get rid of subtitles when you encode for vcd.this program is awesome i do all my movies to vcd and they work great.if anyone knows how to make the picture sharper when encoding a movie that would be nice to know thanx!


ASHY  2002-05-16 12:14:11 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Subtitles are very hard to remove. You could crop them out with TMPG as the easy way, but you will lose some of the movie.
Here's a page which may help you:
http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:XJrYvT4-jIoC:www.animemusicvideos.org/subremoval/+how+to+remove+subtitles&hl=en&ie=UTF8

If you want to make your VCD sharper then double click the 'Sharpen edge' filter under advanced.
If you just want to increase the overall quality then just up the bitrate.

ASHY



Question - Is my VOB Interlaced A or B or is it Progressive No.21349
ChrisL  2002-05-15 21:55:14 ( ID:sibzjgw9ik2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I ripped a PAL DVD. I am confused about this interlacing stuff.

BitRate Viewer 1.5.043 tells me this about my 5.3Gig VOB:

Num. of picture read: 195950
Stream type: MPEG-2 MP@ML VBR
Resolution: 720*576
Aspect ratio: 16:9 Generic
Framerate: 25.00
Nom. bitrate: 9800000 Bit/Sec
VBV buffer size: 112
Constrained param. flag: No
Chroma format: 4:2:0
DCT precision: 10
Pic. structure: Frame
Field topfirst: Yes<<
DCT type: Frame
Quantscale: Nonlinear
Scan type: Alternate
Frame type: Interlaced<<
Notes:

DVD2AVI 1.76 tells me this:
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Frame Rate 25.000 fps
Video Type: PAL
Frame Type: Progressive<<
Audio Format DD 3/2 448

TMPEnc 2.54.37.135 tells me this in the advanced tab when I load up the .d2v file:
Video Source Type: Interlace<<
Field order: Bottom field first(field b)<<
Source Apspect Ratio 4:3 625 line PAL 704x576

I get the three possible answers! The big question is "Is my VOB interlaced or not and if it is, is it top field first or bottom?"


Minion  2002-05-15 22:09:52 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Generally speaking all dvd"s are interlaced,but to find out you just have to look at the movie it self..just load your d2v file in tmpgenc and go to the "advanced settings" to "de-interlace" and scan through your movie especialy at high motion parts and look for "interlace "lines, you will know them when you see them ,it will look like there are lines jutting out of the regular outline of the movie,but with dvd2avi ,if you were to make a avi file from your vob files, some codecs have the option of makeing the frames of the movie progressive.....


ASHY  2002-05-15 22:50:22 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Sorry minion, but there are no interlacing artifacts on a PAL source. This only happens on NTSC sources which have 3:2 pull down added.

Actually all DVD's are progressive it's just that pulldown is added to make it an interlaced source.

So both Bitrate viewer and DVD2AVI are right, but it's strange that DVD2AVI has reported progressive if it's a PAL DVD as it usually reports 'Interlaced'

TMPG usually detects whether it's interlaced or not but doesn't usually detect if it's top or bottom field first.

If you want the definitive answer trust Bitrate viewer for your answer as it's usually always right.
This is the real output format.

In any case seeing as you are converting a PAL source these settings won't make much difference to the output and are really only necessary to worry about when converting NTSC sources. (What a joy to live in the PAL world)

ASHY


Minion  2002-05-16 03:10:07 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

sory I didn"t notice that he said pal...



Question - Audio missing after conversion No.21348
miron  2002-05-15 21:26:46 ( ID:4z809wawvjl )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hi,
I have a clip that once converted to VCD or SVCD is missing the audio in a section of the file. I tried converting straight from the orig. file and also extracting the audio and specifying the wav file as the audio source but both produced the same result. The orig. file is fine. I used only default settings except "noise reduction". please reply offlist to mironmizrahi@yahoo.com

thanks



Question - Soundproblems after cutting a MPEG1-file No.21345
Michael Sutherland  2002-05-15 21:23:57 ( ID:g8e5xq8ypig )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hi folks,

I¡­ve got a little problem with this cool tool.

I have a 1.300 MB movie, captured with a TV card in Video CD-format:
- Type: MPEG1 -
- Video: 352x288, PAL625, 1.05MBit/sec. -
- Audio: 44.100 Khz, 16 Bit, Stereo -

After I tried to cut the movie into 2 pieces the sound isn¡­t in sync.
Tried different settings in TMPGEnc without any positiv result.
Hope you can help me.

M. S.


Minion  2002-05-15 21:37:04 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

de-multiplex your mpeg file and see if the audio and video file are the same length, and if they are different lengths then that is your problem,then you can use a audio editing program like "cool edit" to stretch of shring you audio file to the exact same length as your video file and then multiplex then back together, then your file should be in sync.This is a common problem with captured files.....


ASHY  2002-05-15 23:36:10 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Another capture problem.
If the original MPEG is in sync then my advice would be to re-multiplex the file and then check for A/V sync. If it's ok then cut it and it should turn out fine.
If it becomes async after multiplexing then I would use BBMPEG to mutiplex the file and use it's A/V delay feature to correct the sync.

ASHY



Question - Need a proggie that can crop MPEG files.....any suggestions? No.21339
Anon  2002-05-15 20:23:21 ( ID:kfh2kqui2ia )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Any ideas? Preferably, but not necessarily, one which uses a 'Direct Stream' copy of the video so that the video qual is maintained.

Thanks


Minion  2002-05-15 21:42:14 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

What do you mean by crop, do you mean change the frame size?the only way I know how to is to re-encode your mpeg file to the frame size you want,or you can use "dvd2avi" it has a cropping feature that you can use to make a project file with the new frame size and then you can encode the "d2v" project file in tmpgenc and have the ouput image be the new frame size.But the first sugestion would be faster......


ASHY  2002-05-15 23:59:16 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

It's impossible to crop an MPEG or any other video file for that matter without re-encoding. Cropping means you are changing the physical characteristics of the file and therefore would need to to re-encode.

I have answered this question in your other post. I don't understand what you are trying to achieve when you say you want to produce an MPEG without black bars without re-encoding.

If all you want to do is convert your VOBs directly to an MPEG2 file without changing it in anyway then check your other post as I have posted a link to VSTRIP which will allow you to do exactly that.

ASHY


Anon  2002-05-16 00:19:37 ( ID:kfh2kqui2ia )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

So was this the message you mentioned that was deleted?

Anyway, it is not a VOB that I am trying to play with. It is an MPEG which I have and want to reduce it's size.

I have realised that it was stupid to think it can be done without re-encoding it. So how can I be sure that it is re-encoding using similar settings so as to not reduce it's video quality?

I am using AVI2MPG2/bbMPEG to crop the MPEG file I have, hopefully I can find a way to stop it form crashing (need to play around with cos it worked for a small test file I used, but crashed on the main file).

I'd just like to thank both of you guys (Minion and Ashy) for between you replying to all of my posts.


ASHY  2002-05-16 00:36:48 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Well the simple solution is to use TMPG for cropping. TMPG contains all the tools you'll ever need to create high quality MPEGs, you just need to look for them.
BBMPEG won't give you as high a quality encode as TMPG so I'd forget all about using BBMPEG for encoding and cropping.

Open TMPG and click the 'setting' button on the right then under the 'advanced' tab tick 'clip frame' then double click it. Here you will find options to to crop and resize your MPEG.
After cropping you will have to re-encode. If you wan't to keep the quality of the file you need to examine the original file to find out it's details so you can encode to MPEG2 using the same resolution and a reasonable bitrate to keep the quality.

ASHY


Anon  2002-05-16 00:53:44 ( ID:kfh2kqui2ia )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!!!!

I can't believe I didn't think to double click on the options (or even read where it says to double-click).

Thank you very much for that



Question - Retaining aspect ratio No.21338
AlexB  2002-05-15 20:06:52 ( ID:p5m7kguhslf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Is there a way to convert files, while retaining the accurate aspect ratio of the movie? I did look in the preferences of this software, but did not see anything I could change to make it happen. If any one knows of the way to accomplish this, please post.

Thanks



Question - Retaining aspect ratio No.21334
AlexB  2002-05-15 19:41:00 ( ID:p5m7kguhslf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Is there a way to convert files, while retaining the accurate aspect ratio of the movie? I did look in the preferences of this software, but did not see anything I could change to make it happen. If any one knows of the way to accomplish this, please post.

Thanks


ASHY  2002-05-15 19:51:17 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

It depends on the source and the output you wish to view on.

What is your source aspect ratio and what do you intend to view the result on, a 4:3 TV or 16:9 TV

Usually if your source is 16:9 and you intended output is 4:3 TV then you would simply choose 16:9 as your input souce aspect ratio and choose 'Full screen(keep aspect ratio)' as the arrange method and choose 4:3 as the output.

ASHY


AlexB  2002-05-15 20:08:23 ( ID:p5m7kguhslf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thank you for your help. After testing that is exactly what had happened.
Alex


AlexB  2002-05-15 20:21:36 ( ID:p5m7kguhslf )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thank you for your help. After testing that is exactly what had happened.
Alex



Bug report - Missing Posts :-S No.21331
Anon  2002-05-15 15:53:27 ( ID:kfh2kqui2ia )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I posted two seperate questions here a few hours ago, and now the posts seem to have disappeared.......has anyone experienced anything similar?


ASHY  2002-05-15 16:03:14 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Yep, happens to me all the time and is flaming annoying.
Especially as some of them are quite long replies.

I don't know why it happens because my posts don't contain links to illegal softare or anything offensive, so if it's the moderator or whoever is supposed to run this BBS, I wish they would just leave it out.

ASHY


ASHY  2002-05-16 00:03:05 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

One of them happens to be a reply to you it seems.
IF you double post the same thing these get automatically deleted.

ASHY



Question - Problem with source range No.21329
djinn69  2002-05-15 14:25:21 ( ID:jjuoli2e8m. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have a problem with TMPGEnc v2.54a and was wondering if anyone had experienced the same or come up with a solution?

I have a large MPEG2 file that I am converting to a VCD (MPEG1). If I convert the whole file then everything is fine. The problem occurs if I choose a source range. If I set up a source range to run from the middle of the movie until the end then the resulting MPEG1 file appears to be frozen on the first frame with no sound for about 8 seconds. Then the sound and video carry on as usual. The video and sound is in sync and everything OK, except that I appear to lose 8 seconds of the movie at the beginning of this MPEG part!

If I convert the whole MPEG2 to MPEG1 and then use the split option within the MPEG Tools then this works OK (however of course it is an extra step that takes time and additional hard drive space).

Has anyone else encountered this problem with source ranges? Anyone have a solution?

Cheers,
DJ


Minion  2002-05-15 21:31:13 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

On the occations that I use "tmpgenc" for encodeing i use the source range feature..And the only problem I have ever had was once in a while I would get a sync problem but usualy it works great..Is the problem with that one file or every file cuz maybe it has to do with certain files..



Question - No picture after Conversion toMPEG No.21327
Willy  2002-05-15 13:37:34 ( ID:uvd4ng23auc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I downloaded an AVI file which plays good on my PC. When I try to convert to mpeg so I can do a video CD. The MPEG file sound is fine but no picture. on the mpeg file. What am I doing wrong?


ASHY  2002-05-15 15:18:18 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

It's not possible to clip black borders out of a video stream using direct stream copy.

Direct stream copy means that the stream isn't physically changed in any way.
To crop the black bars out of a video stream you would be changing the stream physically and can only be accomplished by re-encoding.

Neither can Virtualdub accomplish this. It would have to be set at Full processing mode to do what you ask.

If what you are trying to say is you wish to convert the VOBs to MPEG2 directly without changing anything in the video stream then there are a few programs which can accomplish this.

Probably the best is VSTRIP.
VSTRIP can convert all the VOBs to a single MPEG2 file and extract the ac3 if you wish.

http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/vstrip.html


ASHY



Question - Audio problem looking like dropped frames No.21323
Jules Claes  2002-05-15 10:27:48 ( ID:itaatyqnjtw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have the following problem: I ripped a DVD with three short videoclips using CLADDVD. Next I use DVD2AVI 1.86 to create the d2v file and the audiofile which in this instance is an mpa file with name NN delay -80ms.mpa
Next I encode using TMPGENC 2.54a to create the mpg file.To make TMPGENC recognise teh audiofile I choose allfiletypes and then the mpa file.
The result videowise is OK but the audio is shorter than the video and from the beginning you hear at the same short interval like a veryshort part of the audio is missing.What can be the reason?
Should I convert the mpa to a wav file?
I will try this tonight.


ASHY  2002-05-15 11:41:59 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You should have ripped to a wav file not an mpa file.
DVD2AVI is one hell of a frameserver and is the best tool there is for the job, but it's audio capabilities aren't too good as far as sync goes.

Also I would use smartripper to rip your movies as this will automatically create the d2v file for you which means you only need to rip the audio.

The fastest and most reliable program I have found for this is VOB2AUDIO.
Rip the audio again with VOB2AUDIO as you will still probably have sync problems when you convert the mpa to a wav.

Once you have ripped the audio to a wav with VOB2AUDIO put that into TMPG on it's own and choose 'Audio only' as the stream type in TMPG then multiplex the resulting mp2 with your already encoded movie.

One other hint, there is a program called MPEGDJencoder which can convert wavs to mp2 audio about 5x faster than TMPG.

Links to above programs are below.
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/vob2audio.html
http://www.xaudio.de/pages/encoder.html

ASHY


Jules Claes  2002-05-15 21:26:04 ( ID:y0q5giiuipn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I tried smartripper but after starting the program searches the key a couple of times, then I get a msg Quit ripper?.When I push yes the program is ripping anyway, so it seems. As I did not trust this behaviour I tried CLADDVD XP which works without any msg.
Anyway your suggestion of ripping the audio with V2OB was worse.
So I used smartripper/CLADDVD and then used BESWEET to convert MPA to WAV.
After that I use as usual TMPGENC.
Now all seems to be OK.I got rid of the audio hitches.


ASHY  2002-05-15 23:08:46 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Strange how you got that message with smartripper. Smartripper is well known as the best ripper out there. It could be you either need to update your ASPI layer to Adaptecs ASPI 4.6 or you have installed the latest ASPI layer 4.7 from Adaptec which doesn't work with smartripper.
Ihave ripped 100's of DVD's with this program flawlessly.

Also I have never had a problem with VOB2AUDIO and is usually spot on as far as sync problems are concerned.

Anyway looks like you got it sorted, but it still leaves me confused as to how you corrected the problem by converting the original mpa to a wav as the wav should have turned out exactly the same as the mpa. Strange.

ASHY



Question - GOP structure for MPEG 2 PAL No.21320
bill  2002-05-15 09:48:29 ( ID:ye1n/lryz4f )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hi All

I am making MPEG-2 for DVD in PAL format.

My understanding is that for PAL I need a GOP size of 12 and so I use the structure: IBBPBBPBBPBB. For multi angle video I need to use a closed GOP but when I select this option the structure is modified to IBBPBBPBBP (the last two b frames removed) this is now not a valid GOP size I believe?

Can someone tell me what the correct GOP parameters are for creating MPEG 2 for DVD with closed GOPS.

I am currently trialing v2.54 on win2000

Many thanks

Bill


ASHY  2002-05-15 14:15:45 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Gop sizes for PAL can be anything up to 15 pictures per GOP or 18 for NTSC. 12 is just a typical GOP size for PAL as used in transmission.
You will notice however most PAL DVD's have a GOP structure of 15 pictures and most use the standard IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB.

To edit a GOP correctly it needs to cut at a sequence header for example the cut would have to made at the last (P) frame before the next (I) frame as (B) frames require information from then next (I) or (P) frames to be constructed wheras (P) frames only require information from the previous and present frames.

If the cut was made at a (B) frame then the full GOP wouldn't be constucted as the last (B) frame doesn't contain the required information it needed from the next (I)or (p) frame which has been cut away and would therefore cause an error when being decoded.
For example a closed GOP should look something like this IBBPBBPBBPBBP.

If it was IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB < and the cut was made here the last two (B) frames wouldn't be constructed properly because they need the information from the previous frames and the next (I) or (p) frame from the next GOP sequence which you have cut away which would have been > IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB.

Basically what I am saying is you can't cut at a (B) frame. You can cut only before the next (I) frame this is why your GOP is having the last (B) frames removed.

Don't worry your GOP will still be within the DVD specs, but my advice would be to use the standard GOP IBBPBBPBBPBBP for closed GOP editing and make sure all your multi angle clips have the same sequence.

ASHY


bill  2002-05-16 08:33:41 ( ID:/5nnsh5idv2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

ASHY

Many thanks for your illuminating reply.

I'll use 1/4/2 for the I/P/B settings in the GOP structure option. Sequence header every 1 GOP and the closed GOP option selected. This gives 13 frames in the GOP and ends in a P frame.

Best Regards

Bill



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