I did not notice the dates on the posts, but have seen a few posts here regarding choppy playback of (S)VCD and DVDs on a DVD Player after using TmpgEnc to create the files for them.
Well, I had that problem myself, but no more. Here is how I got rid of it; Basically, I created my own templates - I seems as though the default settings result in a GOP that is way too big (Group Of Pictures)basically, use the same settings as the default ones, with the exception that under GOP Structure, specify the MAX number of frames in a GOP. Setting that to 16 has made it acceptable, but I am considering trying an even lower number.

I was working with VFR MKV, trying to get it to become a normal AVI so I can convert it to MPEG-2 for DVD. After I got the AVS script up and running in VdubMOD, it tells me that it does not have the VFW codec for YV12. I'm using FFDSHOW which also has this VFW Config menu.

So I went and installed XVID. VdubMOD can now open the AVS script as is however, the first frame of the video is replaced by a black from with big white text saying:

Warning: Nothing to output
bframe decoder lag

After loading my AVS script, I have to do a fast recompress to get an AVI file. However, that black frame also gets added to the AVI! How can I remove it and replace it with the original source video? I'm not sure if that black frame was added by Vdub or if it actually replaced a frame. Since I'm working with VFR, the audio is out of sync so I'm not sure if it's that black frame's fault or if it's something with the VFR and AVS. :(

Why do you need to create an AVISYNTH script first before loading into Virtualdubmod?

Have you made sure you have enabled 'ALL' MPEG4 decoding in the VFW part of FFDSHOW?

If you really do need to use AVISYNTH then add the following line to the script first:
CONVERTOYUY2()

The 'B-frame decoder lag' error is common when using the XVID codec. Usually using FFDSHOW as the decoder corrects this.

If it bothers you then you can just remove that frame in VD.

The AVS script is for changing the FPS of AVI file. The AVI file was extracted from MKV with variable bitrate. If I just use that AVI file for DVD, it would not be compatible with the audio and it would be out of sync so I need to correct the FPS of the AVI file by using an AVS script in Vdub.

The person who helped me with this told me to do a fast recompress in Vdub using the XVID or FFDSHOW codec to get an AVI with the correct FPS so I can convert it to MPEG-2. When I added: CONVERTOYUY2()
Vdub said there is no such function. :( Yes, I have enabled all MPEG4 decoding in VFW.

Since I'm using a separate XVID codec, do I need to disable anything in FDFSHOW?

Sorry there was a typo it should be CONVERTTOYUY2()
I wouldn't bother with the XVID codec for Virtualdub. Just put the above line in your script and it should open with FFDSHOW in VD.

As for changing the frame rate, do you mean to a standard frame rate compatible with DVD?

What is the fram rate now and what are you encoding to?

You don't need neither AVIsynth nor Virtudub to change the frame frate of an AVI. 'AVIfrate' will do it in seconds then just copy the the timecode from it and paste into Cooledit, Goldwave or Soundforge to adjust and snyc the audio.

Also which version of Virtualdub mod have you got. Virtualdubmod should be able to open your MKV directly.

That still doesn't work. Do I need to download some kind of DLL for it? The VFR MKV is when it uses a variety of FPS in certain areas of the video, some parts of it are 23.976 while some other parts are 29.97. When you play the MKV, it plays fine but when you extract the video, the FPS becomes messed up and the entire thing becomes extra lengthy (making it incompatible with the audio).

Even if I open the MKV in Vdub and extract it, the AVI will still come out lengthy. So I need to change the FPS throughout the video to 23.976 using AVS script and then recompressing it using XVID (hence the error frame) and then converting to MPEG-2. Man, I hate MKVs now. :(

Are you trying to tell me that CONVERTTOYUY2() doesn't work in your AVISYNTH script?

I find this very unlikely as this is one of the basic commands that AVISYNTH uses.

Please post your AVISYNTH script here.

Here you go:

LoadPlugin("D:AviSynthpluginsFDecimate.dll")
CONVERTTOYUY2()
source=AviSource("D:file.avi",audio=false)
videoA=source.Trim(0,2159).AssumeFPS(23.9760).ChangeFPS(120.00)
videoB=source.Trim(2160,44510).AssumeFPS(29.9700).ChangeFPS(120.00)
videoA+videoB
FDecimate(23.976)

I'm sorta lost as to what that script is actually doing.
Obviously it is changing the frame rate, but why do you need to change the frame rate to 120 fps first?

Also why the difference in frame rates from the first part to the second?

This may work fine I don't really know, cuz I've never tried a script like that before nor have I had to mess about with MKV's like that.
In fact I've never used the 'Fdecimate' plugin and I'm too tired right now to look into it.

Where did you get the script from.

Here's the Doom9 thread where I got help. The first post wasn't mines so you will have to scroll down on that first page:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89294

I don't understand too well what a VFR MKV is but I followed their instructions and then made the script. They provided a sample script for me to use.

Sorry admin, I tried it twice. Even if I enter the correct password I gave, I cannot edit a previous message I made. Did I do something wrong or there's a bug in the site?

My problem is when i convert an avi with tmpgenc i lose the sound. i know this question has been asked many times and i have been reading the various guides and replies but none of them seem to help me.

I've tried converting the sound to wav with virtualdub and then encoding with tmpgenc but, i still get no sound. i even reinstalled tmpgenc but there's been no change. i tried just playing the wav file in my audio player and it wouldn't play. it used too. but now it doesn't. When i play the original file in my media player it works perfectly.

everything was fine until a week ago. so i deleted all my video and sound codecs and reinstalled them again but i still can't get sound when i convert with tmpgenc. so i figure my problem is most likely a codec problem but i have no idea what codec i am missing. the codecs i have installed are:

ffdshow mpeg-44 video decoder
divx 5.2.1
Indeo
AC3-ACM
Core Vorbis
3ivx
XVID (Koepi)
Ogg-acm
Divx 3.11 alpha
Ac3 Filter
Oggdso995
fraunhofer Mpeg layer-3 Audio Decompressor
Lame
Wm9 Codecs

So would some be able to help me out with my problem please. any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks.

Read http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/129217 . Praticalli, extract hthe sound from the movie with VirtualDub (File___Save WAV) and decode/re-encode it to 'MP2 for SVCD' (check the box 'downconvert sample rate') with BeSweet (+ its GUI).
After, load thet MP2 as 'audio input' when you make the AVI --> MPEG conversion with TMPGenc. Alas, you need specific plugins to decompess some kind of compressed audio [and the 'WAV' you extract with VirtualDub with Audio set on 'Direct Stream Copy' (which is the default) is NOT an uncompressed sounc, i.e. it isn't a real WAV!!].

If interested in knowing which kind of compression it has been used (often it is .AC3 - Dolby surround) , open the movie with VirtualDubMod, do Stream__Stream List. It will show which kind of audio stream it has...
To decompress the .AC3 sound TMPGenc has a specific plugin you can add to it, without doing that things I explained you.

I want to reduce an mpeg file (by ex. from 2 GB to 1 Gb) reducing sampling, but when I try to open the file in wizard a message appear : file unsoported!. With MPEG Tools I can play this file but not with wizard. It's normal?
Thanks.
JC

If the file is a DVD video (e.g. Movie.M2V, Movie.VOB or Movie.D2V) TMPGenc cannot load it unless it has a proper plugin (M2V.VFP, DVD2AVI.VFP...) even if your PC can play DVD videos, can. Maybe this is the case?

Thanks aldaco12 but I'm talking about a file movie.mpeg, I want transform it from 2GB to 1 GB reducing btr for put it with others .mpeg in DVD via DVDLab.
I was read other questions in this section and it seem that is not possible do that with TMPEGnc.
JC

Hello,

I am a longtime user of TMPGenc, which is an amazing program. Few days ago I was converting an avi file to mpeg-2 and I get this error every time in the same place. I am sure the mistake is in the avi file, because I also tried another program and got the same error, in the same place. What do you suggest? The avi file is playable on my PC. Thanks.

I managed to correct a similar error (VirtualDub didn't recognize the type of the mpeg file) by doing with TMPGenc File____Merge & Cut and cutting the movie from 00:00,01 ---> end (therefore losing nothing).
Try it.

My problem is when i convert an avi with tmpgenc i lose the sound. i know this question has been asked many times and i have been reading the various guides and replies but none of them seem to help me.

I've tried converting the sound to wav with virtualdub and then encoding with tmpgenc but, i still get no sound. i even reinstalled tmpgenc but there's been no change. i tried just playing the wav file in my audio player and it wouldn't play. it used too. but now it doesn't. When i play the original file in my media player it works perfectly.

everything was fine until a week ago. so i deleted all my video and sound codecs and reinstalled them again but i still can't get sound when i convert with tmpgenc. so i figure my problem is most likely a codec problem but i have no idea what codec i am missing. the codecs i have installed are:

ffdshow mpeg-44 video decoder
divx 5.2.1
Indeo
AC3-ACM
Core Vorbis
3ivx
XVID (Koepi)
Ogg-acm
Divx 3.11 alpha
Ac3 Filter
Oggdso995
fraunhofer Mpeg layer-3 Audio Decompressor
Lame
Wm9 Codecs

So would some be able to help me out with my problem please. any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks.

Do you know what kind of sound file it is? Get either GSpot or VirtualdubMOD and it should say what the audio is. If it's MP3, then TMPGEnc does not have support for it therefore you must turn it into a WAV.

Well the thing is the file i'm trying to convert i was actually able to convert it successfully last week. but later i deleted all my audio and video codecs and installed them again.

i used gspot and it says the audio format is MPEG-1 Layer 3. i know tmpgenc should be able to convert it successfully even without converting the sound to wav first, because i've been converting files with the same format successfully in the past.

i've already tried converting it to wav and then using tmpgenc but i still get no sound. so that's why i'm thinking i'm missing a codec, but i just don't know what it is.

TMPGEnc is weird like that. I've tried numerous MP3 files and some work, some don't. For those that do work, it doesn't work at certain times of the day. I still suggest you convert it into a WAV. I don't really understand Virtualdub's "Save WAV" function so I suggest you demux it as MP3 and then use an audio editor to convert to WAV. I suggest you use BeSweet because you might need to use it later on as well if you're making a DVD.

If you're making a DVD, I suggest you just encode the video alone to get an M2V file. Then either convert your WAV to an AC3 (using ffmpegGUI or BeSweet) or MP2 (for me, I do AC3). Then in your DVD authoring program, input the video and audio and it'll automatically mux them for you.

If you're making a VCD, then I suggest you select the AVI file in TMPGEnc, then for audio, select your WAV and then encode.

Well the thing is the file i'm trying to convert i was actually able to convert it successfully last week. but later i deleted all my audio and video codecs and installed them again.

i used gspot and it says the audio format is MPEG-1 Layer 3. i know tmpgenc should be able to convert it successfully even without converting the sound to wav first, because i've been converting files with the same format successfully in the past.

i've already tried converting it to wav and then using tmpgenc but i still get no sound. so that's why i'm thinking i'm missing a codec, but i just don't know what it is.

Download and install the Radium MP3 codec again.
http://digilander.libero.it/divxdoor1/sw/Radium_Mp3Codec.zip

>I've tried converting the sound to wav with virtualdub and then encoding with tmpgenc but, i still get no sound.

Because you probably didn't even convert it to a wav. If the extracted wav isn't around 1GB then you have simply extracted the audio without conversion.
You MUST select 'Full processing' and 'PCM' as the compression type before extracting to wav.

Also why do you have several codecs for doing the same thing?
You don't really need the XVID codec or the DIVX 5 codec as you have FFDSHOW or the LAME codec as you have Fraunhofer.

Installing several codecs that do the same job can cause conflicts and instabilities in the system.

Thanks i finally got sound. You were right about the wav settings. I thought that i had the settings in virtualdub correct, i didn't realise that i had to click on full processing mode in the audio section. I just saw that full processing mode was checked under the video section and i thought that was right and i would save it as a wav. but yeh so i have sound now. thanks.

i just wish i had written down the codecs that i had installed previously so i wouldn't have to do this extra step. thanks guys for the help, i really appreciate.

I have used Tmpeg for a few years nows and have always used it to create VCD's.

This has however meant that I have been limited in how much I can fit per disc and have needed to split many files.

I have a DVD writer and MPEG compatable dvd player. Can anyone tell me if I can use Tmpeg to convert downloaded or previously created .dat files from vcd's into a format that can simply be burnt straight onto dvd's and then play in my dvd player, thus giving 4.7g capicity instead of 800m.

David

I'm not an exprt. Your objective must be: find an authoring aplication that allows you to put multiple VCD movies on a DV-image (and does not try to encode a VCD movie in DVD form: 1.3 GB --> 4.5 GB with the same lame quality), then burn it.
I have heard of DVDLab. Check it, if you don't have better ideas.

TDA will accept VCD-Files for DVD-Authoring. Only the Audio-Stream has to be re-encoded. TDA can handle this by itself.

Cheers, I have just downloaded it, looks like what I have been after

I think I should be able to encode mpg files into Mpeg-1 with tmpeg, then use these files with TDA, would that work ?

Also what settings do you change in tmpeg so that avi files can be opened, I know I have had it previously set to open virtually any file but needed to clean my pc down and cant remember how to sey it up again

I have an AVI at 704x480. That's widescreen. I want to put it on DVD (NTSC), keeping the widescreen. So I set:

Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Display
Video Arrange Method: Full Screen (KAR)

When I previewed it in TMPGEnc, there are 2 black bars on the sides and then in the middle is the movie, stretched. Is this what it will look like on the TV? It's still encoding so I don't know yet. I've never experienced this before. In the preview, the picture is always full screen with no side black bars, stretched. Once on the TV, black bars are automatically added at the top and bottom with no side black bars.

If this AVI is indeed 704x480 then that is not a widescreen format for AVI, but is fullscreen.
For widescreen it should be 704x352.

I would download AVICODEC then copy and paste the stats of the file here.

The AVI says 704x480 in GSpot. I'm at school right now so I'll copy and paste the stats later. However, it is supposed to be 16:9, probably the creator's error. The video does look stretched. How do I resize it? What do I resize it to?

Also, another video problem of mines is making my DVD out of sync. The original file was an MKV with HE-AAC 5.1 sound. The length is 25:01. I used MKVExtract to extract the AAC and AVI. Now, the AVI has a length of 30:39 while the audio is 25:01. The AVI is 23.976 fps. Why did it increase to 30 minutes and 39 seconds? It's definitely making everything go out of sync. How do I solve this problem? I've tried extracting using VdubMOD, MKVExtract, and AVIMuxGUI but it is still the same.

By the way, I asked the creator and he said it's anamorphic widescreen. As for the other problem, someone suggests that it is VFR MKV. So I'm currently trying to edit the timecode and such.

I have extracted the AVI and VFR timecodes from the MKV. If you know what to do from there, help is appreciated! And then amidst all that, when do I resize the video to correct the widescreen problem?

If the Video realy is anamorphic, use:

Video Arrange Method: Center
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Display

This settings will do the Job properly.

Thanks B_Racer. I'll try that! Here's more of the creator's notes:

FAQ #1: It looks stretched! (or what does anamorphic mean)
This means you're using a player that doesn't support aspect ratio correction or that vsfilter is trying to extended the image to 4:3 (which it does with the default settings. Set it to original image size and use a player which supports it to fix the problem.

Many newer mkv encodes are anamorphic which means that the pixels themselves don't have a 1:1 aspect ratio which is assumed in avi and ogm. This allows encoding without having to resize the source which keeps a lot more detail, especially for 16:9.

Ok now I understand. It is an MKV with the anamorphic flag set.
This will play fine in players such as media player classic that can recognize the flag.

>If the Video realy is anamorphic, use:

>Video Arrange Method: Center
>Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Display

If you use this method ensure that the output is set to 16:9 display also. This will set the 16:9 flag in the MPEG. If you don't the image will play full screen in 4:3.

Is it okay if I set this:

Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Display
Source Aspect Ratio: 16:9 525 line (NTSC) or 16:9 Display
Video Arrange Method: Full Screen (KAR)

I previewed it and it looked correct but I'm not sure since I have never messed with the Source Aspect Ratio field before.

Where is the Output you're talking about???

Yep that should work fine and is in fact the way I would do it.
You can find the output aspect ratio under the 'Video' tab.

If the Source already has the correct resolution, there's no need to use any other arrange setting than Center. Other Methods are slower and there is a risk of disturbing the AR of the Video. Center is doing nothing - in this case, that's what TMPGEnc should do - nothing. No resizing, no new positioning, just use the Video as is.

I guess you're right there. Better off not resizing the image.

I have a small problem. For the widescreen, there is a small scene with hardcoded subs on it and it's located at the very sides of the video, meaning it got cut off by the TV's overscan area. How do I avoid this and still have the widescreen?

Hello. I have a Xvid AVI video file that I want to convert to DVD format. I also want to maintain as much quality as I can. Here are the specs for the AVI file:

624x352 1088kbps 24fps
Audio - 44khz 16bps

When I play the AVI file, the aspect ratio is just fine - i.e. it displays correctly as a widescreen image. I want to maintain the aspect ratio.

I do plan to take this file, and a few others (size permitting) and use TMPGenc DVD Authoring to create a DVD.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

-DC

Anyone? Please help...!

Use:
Center (Custom size) 688x352
Size: 704x480
Aspect ratio: 4:3
Frame rate: 23.976 fps (internaly 29.97 fps)
Encode mode: 3:2 Pulldown when playback

I have a load of avi files I am trying to convert to mpg. All the other types of file have been fine. Extracted the wav with virtual dub and then used tmpgenc to convert to mpg.

But I have 3 which seem to be encoded differently, as "xvid-tcm". I couldnt get virtual dub to work with these files at all despite installing appropriate codecs for direct show and vfw.......it just didnt like the audio. Eventually I gave up and found another program that would extract the wav from these files.

Now, however, I cant get TMPGEnc to work with them either. I am getting no error messages but the output is a mixture of just all black or green blocks. Seems like this is the kind of thing that would happen if didnt have required codecs, but the avi plays fine and also used GSpot to identify there are 3 appropriate video and 4 audio codecs installed.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

The audio problem can ba solver by settting in VirtualDub Audio___Direct Stream Copy and de/compressing the 'fake WAV' file you made with BeSweet to 'MP2 for SVCD'.
The video problem is more serious. I cannot imagine how to solve it.

A doubt.

Could there be any compatibility issue between TMPEnc 2.5 and AMD 3400+ cpu or nVidia 3 chipset (Asus K8N-E motherboard)?

G.E.

...see Enrico's answer in the previous topic.