I tried using Tmpgenc to cut and merge my mpg files but it never works for me. Anyone know of better editors?

Hey, the only software i know of to do cutting is Camels Mpeg Joiner.. its alot faster! :)

There are lots of them , one is "mpeg2vcr" and "m2-edit pro" and power vcr edits mpeg"s and joines them..there are literally dozzens of them, but if you are just doing mpeg1/vcd then you can use vcd cutter it is freeware......

Enabling the padding option in the 2xpass VBR bitrate window causes packet errors when trying to multiplex with bbmpeg. It claims that there is no user data and halts without finishing the segment's scan data or the rest of the multiplex. These streams also cause other multiplexors to halt and packet error problems with VCD-Easy/Imager. In fact, the only fix I have found (without re-encoding without the padding option) is the mpeg->mpeg fix option with VCDGear.

I have since stopped using this padding option and the errors have ceased. There are quite a few others who have experienced the same problems per the doom9 boards.

mGuru

Adding padding seems sort of useless it is just adding empty space inyour file when you need all the space you got.....

I agree with minion adding the padding seems pointless to me. Do you really need to add it. Is your DVD player that critical when it comes to playing DVD's.
Also the reason why that bag of shite called VCDgear fixed your file is because it removed the padding from the MPEG file.

If you need to remove padding from any more movies I suggest you not use VCDgear and just load the file into the MPEGtools multiplexer. You will see the padding stream there and it will allow you to remove it.

ASHY

I was just noting the bug report because a lot of people are getting this error, including myself, and I just recently figured out what was causing all the problems.......

BTW, do you have a link for that MPEGtools multiplexer please?

Thanks,
mGuru

The MPEGtools Multiplexer is part of TMPGenc.
Click File>MPEGtools

ASHY

Load the file into the MPEGtools de-multiplexer and you should see three streams, one of these will be the padding stream.

ASHY

Load the file into the MPEGtools de-multiplexer and you should see three streams, one of these will be the padding stream.

ASHY

Because www.bdpoweramp.com website is not working...
i need some similar program...
my problem is no audio...u knok..its M-3kind that tmpgenc cannot detect..
plez~~ help me.....

I"ll e-mail it to you, but I don"t have the plugins...

Go here, it also has the codecs,
http://ftp.bspu.unibel.by/pub/Multimedia/dB/

ASHY

I need to know how could I add a logo on the movie? I know that Virtual Dub can add the logo to the movie files but at the end, it is avi. file that I need to convert back to mpg from tmpge software and this will reduce the quality. Could anyone tell me if there is a way to add a logo in tmpge software or other method? Is adobe premier can? The main reason is to burn my own movie to my Video CD. So definitely I need CBR 1150 mbps.

really desperate..
Very very beg that one day tmpge have a ADD LOGO feature....I will prey

Suzzane laamo.
CA

Load your video into Virtualdub,add the logo there and then frameserve it
to Tmpgenc.

I have a avi file which has an unsupported audio format. I've extracted the audio using virtualdub, and use that as the audio source when encoding a vcd from original avi file. Problem is the sound is about 1sec out. How do you remedy this?

Encoded using constant bitrate, and the problem is less noticeable than 2 pass or CQ. Is the Rate Control Mode the cause of this problem?

The sound in the original avi file when played in WinMediaPlayer and WinDVD is fine, no sync problems.

Using TMPGencPlus 2.56

Thanx in advance.

Well If you play your mpeg files in "media player" it can play your files out of sync, but if it is out of sync the same amount through the whole movie then you can fix it by multiplexing the audio and video with "bbmpeg" or "mpegvcr" cuz they have a feature in there multiplexor that lets you start the audio or video first so you can sync your file......

i have downloaded the tmpgenc 2.56.39.143 and can't figure out how to convert my avi movies to mpeg 1. I am trying to load the avi file and i am getting a message "can not open, or unsupported" I am able to convert the sound but not video. What do i need to do?

You need to raise the priority of your "direct show file reader" you do this by going to "options" to "enviromental settings" to "vfapi plugins" and raise the priority on the "direct show" to "2".....

What gives better quality? Constant bit rate or Constant quality? Basically I am
trying to encode a movie into a standard mpeg file(not vcd standard, not dvd standard etc..)that can be played with any standard file player. So I am wondering what would give me the best quality overall? I am buring the file to
disc(700mb). I notice that i can set higher bitrates in the CQ setting then i can in CBR and get a smaller file. Ex. i can set the min and max in CQ at 1600 kbits per sec and the final size of a 50min movie is a lot smaller/more fittable on to a 700mb disc than the one that was encoded using 1600 bits for CBR. In order for the file using CBR to come out at nearly the same size as CQ or fittable onto one 700mb cd i had to set the bit rate for CBR at 1500 kbits. So is CBR file bigger because it's got better qaulity? I can't tell when i compared the two movies because both of the movies don't really contain a lot of high motion scenes(I encoded the same movie twice using the same audio settings) Any insight would be great thanks.

Cq is the better format but you had the bitrate settings set way to low to give you the best quality ,if you are useing standard vcd resolution 352 by 240 you can set the bitrate to 5000kbs max and 500min and the quality to 80, and un-tick the enable padding, and under the system settings put it at vcd non-standard ,I was able to get a 1 hour 50minute in fairly good quality on a single cd-r, the quality wasn"t what I was used to cuz i usually do high rez xsvcd"s but they looked good rof putting a whole movie on a cd-r when I usually put them on 3 cd-r"s......

Thanks for the advice Minion, but i have one more question, Is there any way to sorta figure out how big a file is going to be if you use CQ? Is there any way to sorta determine the size outcome after setting the min and max settings? Or do i bascially have to go through trial and error to figure out which is the correct bit rate? Thanks

If you are only using a software player, what is the point in encoding to MPEG at all? If you have no intention of making these files into VCD or DVD then you would acheive better quality and smaller file size encoding to DIVX.

ASHY

I could do divx for a smaller file and better qaulity but i was thinking about lending it to my friends so they can watch it also. My friends however are a bit iffy about installing non-commerical items on their machines. So unless I try forcing divx down their throats i don't think it's going to happen lol.
Still i'd like to know if you could calculate the final file output size when using CQ.

What do you mean by non commercial? Do you mean you friends won't use a codec you don't have to pay for.
If that's the case they should wipe off half of the codecs that are already installed on their machines because I bet most of them are using some sort of non commercial codec already, for example what sort of MP3 codec do you friends use?
Also if that's the case then why don't you use DIVX 5 pro. This codec is commercial.

Any to answer your question, the way I do it is to encode a typical scene in the movie for a minute and then multiply the resulting file size by the amount of minutes in the film. This will give you an average size for the film and something to aim for with the bitrate.
To make it more accurate, encode say a five minute sample then do the math. This will give a more accurate representation of the final output size.

ASHY

>What gives better quality? Constant bit rate or Constant quality? Basically I amtrying to encode a movie into a standard mpeg file(not vcd standard, not dvd standard etc..)that can be played with any standard file player. So I am wondering what would give me the best quality overall?

To reply to the origional question. The Constant Quality (CQ) setting is by far the best, as it gives the best quality for the final file size.

You could go down the DivX route, but if you want an mpeg just for playing on your PC, I'd experiment with the CQ settings, 'till you arrive at a quality vs file sizethat your happy with.

Griff

Hoorah we finally agree on something, so you DO have some worthwhile advice after all.
I wholly agree that the CQ method is by far the best and will give the better quality vs file size output.

ASHY

can anybody recomend any software to remove banners or text from AVI or MPG movie files with out wrecking the video file it self

any help well greatfull recevied

or if this is impossable please leave a message

Well sort of, you can use the "clip frame "feature to cut the bottom or top or sides of the frame off so depending on how big the writeing is you can do it, but you might not like the effect of haveing the frame cut off at the bottom or top......

There are various plugins which you can use with virtualdub which will remove logos and text.

http://www.mindwarpet.com/subremoval/subremoval.html

ASHY

I downloaded and installed TMPGEnc 2.56.39.143. I then tried to use an AVI as the video and audio source. The error message was "can not open or unsupported".

you need to name your frameserver file with an avi extension such as (test.vdr.avi) so that it will be recognized by both programs

Go to "option" to "enviromental settings" to "vfapi plugins" and raise the priority of the "direct show file reader" to "2" this should get your avi file loaded....

When i convert an .avi file to an mpg file i also have no sound in the new file.
I tried this with different avi files, so i'm sure it's not an unsupported sound format. What could be the problem?

Dmitriy privet
It should work. I tried previous version and now trying last version - it's work.Check your audio after capture and after editing.
Sergey

As a general rule it is allways good to extract the audio to a wav file and encpde the wav as your audio source cuz in a lot of cases the avi file has a unsuported audio format, you don"t need to re-encode your file just extract the audio then encode it to mp2 then mux it with your mpeg file.....

easy, just make a copy of the avi file in another folder and rename it as a sound file,,,wav, mp3, mp2, etc. than just put that as ur audio input!
works for me =)

I read a few guides on frameserving files to tmpgenc, and they all said to fire up virtualdub, start a frameserver, save to outfile.vdr, and then load the outfile.vdr as video source in tmpgenc. However this does not work for me, tmpgenc says it's an unsupported format...

what could I be doing wrong here?

- Mike

you need to name your frameserver file with an avi extension such as (test.vdr.avi) so that it will be recognized by both programs

I'am new to this so please don't bash me.
My goal is to capture our familie movies and save them to vcd/svcd.
I use a dc10+ capture card and it all works fine .
Then i want it to convert it to mpg , i know that the movies are coded in mjpeg av' , but tmpgenc wont accept them and an error occurs : is say's that it is unsupported. I've read to thrugh the BBS and saw that i had to raise the priority of 'AVI VFW compatibility reader' , stil i get the same message only it takes a lot longer to display it , so there is something happening. please help me .
specs :

Windows XP
Studio 7
tmpgenc-2.5631.143
amd 1900+
265 ddr
geforce2 pro
dc10+

uninstall Windows XP, return it to the store, get your money back and buy Windows 2000 Professional


that is all

well thats very helpfull. Please help me.

One piece of advice is to ignore "chumps" who give useless advise,and are so clever,that they can't get XP to work!! Hang on in there buddy and hope for a reply from Ashy or Minion. They'll have something usefull to say.

i had the same problem and minion left me a message follow these instuctions and you should work ok

"minion message"
You are probably getting a "cannot open or unsupported format" Error when you try to load your file, to Fix it , go to "options" to "enviromental settings" to "vfapi plugins" then raise the "direct show file reader" to "2" by right clicking it and selecting raise priority,this should get you file loaded..

VIDEOPIMP

This BBS is here for users who are seeking help with TMPGEnc.
It is not here for the likes of you to advertise your Web Site or to make idiotic suggestions concerning a users Operating System.

Lose your Advert and be forthcoming with genuine help, else you will go the way of the DODO.

thanx foxx for the help but it didn't solve the problem :raised 'direct show' to 2 ,restarted the program but i still get that error. That is the odd thing about it because i've read it already in the forum and tried it without succes.
Any other ideas ? Ow help ...

Well I guess if you tried all the usual tricks then I don"t know what could be wrong, but You can try to capture to a different avi format ,one that is more compatible with tmpgenc(mjpeg usually works)like a "VFW" format or a type2 dv format, or you can try to frames serve the mjpeg to tmpgenc with virtual dub, but becides this I don"t have a clue what is going wrong ,maybe Ashy has a clue......

The dc10+ captures only in mjpeg. But what do you mean with "frame serve" ?

Something else : the other strange thing is that when i raise the 'direct show file reader'to 2 and try to reload the mjpeg avi from the dc10+ , something is hapening , the program doesn't respond and my harddrive sows action for about 10 seconds or more. this doen't occur when i prioritise something else , then the warning ( ..., unsupported) pops up instantly.
Mayby a bug ?

have you already tried using an uncompressed codec?

or if you need to use compressed, try the YU9V or Huffy codec
i know TMPGenc supports those easily

if you dont see a way to capture using other codecs and it only lets you choose that MJPEG one, go to www.vcdhelp.com and download the Huffy codec on their tools page

or go here: http://www.math.berkeley.edu/~benrg/huffyuv.html


and guys honestly, from personal experience with this card and OS
i strongly urge you to not use XP, you will have even more compatibility problems down the road. Win2K works with it all superbly!

If you can get your file loaded into "virtual dud" then virtual dub can frame serve the file to tmpgenc(frame serveing is sort of like fooling tmpgenc into thinking the file is of a supported format) go to www.virtualdub.com and read up on it, but if there is any way to capture to a different codec or to un-compressed avi files then that would be the best bet, I wouldn"t trust a product that only lets you use one format to capture to cuz if the only product that can decode it might be another one of There products...but here is a last ditch attempt to help out, do you have the proper codec to decode the mjpeg file cuz with out it tmpgenc can"t read the file......

I've downloaded 'TMPGEnc-2.56.39.143-Free-VFP.zip' and installed it correctly but that didn't help. I've also tried file-servering but then i have interlacing problems : in a movie frame you see also the frame from before displaced . Dou think that with win2002 it all works ? capture in mjpegs and load it directly in TMPGEncwithout any problems ?

Disable the Directshow plugin and increase the priority of the VFW plugin to 2.
If that doesn't work try installing another MJPEG codec. The Virtualdub site has links to other vendors MJPEG codecs.

http://www.virtualdub.org/links

ASHY

I have just done some checking and according to the info the Morgan MJPEG codec can decode DC10+ files which should work with TMPG.

ASHY

may i ask Woutman, why are you so fixed on using the MJPEG codec?
There are better codecs out there

and when/if you have interlacing problems you can overcome them in TMPGenc Settings in the Advanced tab

select non-interlaced as your source then double click Interlacing in the bottom section and choose one that best suits what you are doing, you can see the preview when you choose

You are correct the interlacing problems could be corrected with TMPG and are probably due also to the wrong field order being selected.
Does your card not allow you to select a progressive output rather than an interlaced one?

ASHY