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I process an AVI file into an MPEG-2 for DVD file and it looks very
good, except that when there is rapid motion the picture seems
to break up into blocks (unable to follow the motion). When the motion
ceases, the picture sharpens right up. I understand that this
probably is a "feature" of MPEG-2, but is there any way I can reduce
this characteristic as it can be quite annoying. The compression
I'm seeing is very good, the order of 40 times smaller than the original
uncompressed avi file, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little compression
if I can remove this "blocking" of the picture.
>I process an AVI file into an MPEG-2 for DVD file and it looks very
>good, except that when there is rapid motion the picture seems
>to break up into blocks (unable to follow the motion). When the motion
>ceases, the picture sharpens right up. I understand that this
>probably is a "feature" of MPEG-2, but is there any way I can reduce
>this characteristic as it can be quite annoying. The compression
>I'm seeing is very good, the order of 40 times smaller than the original
>uncompressed avi file, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little compression
>if I can remove this "blocking" of the picture.
>
>Thanks,
Shame, shame. You said you were NOT posting this over and over yet, here you are 7 hours later.
Use the constant quality setting (CQ), and choose a value between 65 -100%. Then go to motion precision and choose high or highest.
I transcode mpeg2's dumped onto my hard disk from a Nova-t digital TV card. Providing the origional mpeg stream doesn't contain artifacts, I get near perfect DVD compliant copies (with the CQ setting at 100% and motion search set to "highest").
Most people on this BBS seem to be using TMPGenc to encode mpeg1's; this is a shame, because at it's highest quality TMPGEnc produces mpeg2's to rival ANY DVD, and better some.
I am relatively new at "Backing Up" movies and hope someone can answer this question.
I create SVCD disks using SMARTRIPPER - DVD2AVI - TMPGEnc Plus - NERO.
I just had a movie where DVD2AVI would not produce a WAVE file. It seemed to run fine (but finished too fast). The movie was "From Hell" - the story about Jack the Ripper in London. This has happened once before (I don't remember the name of the other movie). DVD2AVI does produce a WAVE file for most other movies.
If I play the ripped .VOB files in WinDVD, there is no sound (at least in the Gateway OEM version of WinDVD V3.1). If I play it in Windows Media Player (with LSX-MPEG-PLAYER 4.0 installed), there IS sound in the .VOB files.
I then tried using DVDx to read the .VOB files and create the MPG files and it did work and the sound was fine.
So, in the few cases where DVD2AVI can't read the sound, I can solve the problem with the DVDx work-around, but it is a poor solution since that excludes TMPGEnc which provides much better quality, has many more filters and features, and is MUCH FASTER.
Is there a way to make DVD2AVI work in all movies?
There could be a bunch of reasons why the audio was not extracted,What you should do is look at the Text file that "SmartRipper" made and it will tell you what audio track is which and what format the audio is in, you can"t extract DTS audio but you can extract the Dolby Digital AC3 track, and make sure you have the audio settings correct like set to "decode to wav" and "dolby surround downmix", I did that same movie about a month ago and from what I remember i didn"t have a problem....
Yes I did this movie a few weeks ago and had more or less the same problem except I use VOB2AUDIO to extract the wav. It seems for reason that DVD2AVI and VOB2AUDIO just can't see the stream.
The way I got round it was to extract the correct audio stream with smartripper to an extra ac3 file and then encode the ac3 to wav with ac3dec.
Since ASHY had a similar problem, I knew that my particular computer configuration was probably not causing the problem. But Minion's comment about having the correct audio stream rung a bell.
I always use track 1 audio in DVD2AVI and I thought that that would work in all cases. But no.... that works in almost all cases, except a few movies where they apparently switch the track order.
In this case track 2 was needed. As simple as that!
I did check the info text file but there wasn't a clue to audio track number - streams were listed but track 2 turned out to be the next to the last (#4) audio stream listed.
Hi I am having trouble re encoding a ripped DVD film its using DivX mpeg 4 and Mpeg 3 audio, when ever it try to convert it to Video CD I get a good picture but no sound (the originals sound is ok) and every few second the error -537403781 704512 is displayed and have to click ok to resume.
You need to extract the audio to a wav file with "virtual dub" and use that as the audio source.Tmpgenc does not like encodeing compressed audio formats and some formats just aren"t supported.There have been quite a few poeple getting that error you are getting every few seconds but it allways seems that they get the error from files downloaded from places like Kaaza so I think the problem lies in the files that are being encoded and not tmpgenc...
I need help...I downloaded a couple of movies off of Kazaa and whenever i try to convert them to MPEG1 it says "my file name" cannot be created somebody help me quickly please
Movies from kazaa are mostly DivX movies. If the one you downloaded is not, try saving it to a different folder then to the one that the video source is in.
If you can actually play the movie, you should have the codecs in stalled. If not, then I urge you to download them at doom9.org or search for the divx 3 and 4 codecs in a search engine.
I am very new at this.I have downloaded movies in kazaa shared.when I am encoding a movie,shouldn't i see the movie as it is encoding?shouldn't i see it also when i preview??all i get is a black screen,after i encoded one movie,i burned it to cd with win media player,when i play it on my dvd player,tv,i get sound but black picture.i have the direct show file set on 2.please help before the sad rich people stop us from downloading...thanks
You also have to have the proper codecs installed on your computer so Tmpgenc can decode your avi file,DivX5 is supposed to be supported but some poeple have had problems getting tmpgenc to encode from Divx5 includeing me, and yes your movies should be displayed while encodeing and if it isn"t then there is probably no video in the encoded mpeg file.......
Make sure you are using AVIsynth v1.0 beta6. This version has many improvements.
If that doesn't work try disabling the 'directshow multimedia file reader' in the VFAPI plugins.
Seem to be chasing my tail. I read some place that Make sure you are AVIsynth v1.0 beta6 wasn't compatible and that you should stick with V0.3. I'll go back and try V10. beta6 again.
>>If that doesn't work try disabling the 'directshow multimedia file reader' in the VFAPI plugins.
How is this done? I can't find any place to do this.
I did as you suggested (disabling the 'directshow multimedia file reader') and it still doesn't work. I went back and tried both the 0.3 and 1.0 versions of AVIsynth, re-installed Premiere, and TMPGEnc, and it doesn't work. I seem to be out of options.
Is there something wrong with the program? i open it, it opens for a split second and then closes. The program never starts. I have installed it over 20 times and restarted the computer over and over.. what is wrong with thh program?
Have you actually tried downloading the program again?
If that doesn't help then go to the TMPG folder and delete these files: CurrentCfg.tpr and TMPGEnc.ini then try to run TMPG again.
I process an AVI file into an MPEG-2 for DVD file and it looks very
good, except that when there is rapid motion the picture seems
to break up into blocks (unable to follow the motion). When the motion
ceases, the picture sharpens right up. I understand that this
probably is a "feature" of MPEG-2, but is there any way I can reduce
this characteristic as it can be quite annoying. The compression
I'm seeing is very good, the order of 40 times smaller than the original
uncompressed avi file, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little compression
if I can remove this "blocking" of the picture.
Are you doing constant quality, constant bitrate or variable bitrate? The way to reduce compression artifacts is to increase bitrate. If you're doing constant bitrate, try encoding at around 7700 kbits/sec.
It is not appreciated by the regular users of this BBS when you keep posting the same question over and over and over again. I'm suprised your posts haven't been deleted as of yet as they should be.
Could someone provide a brief explanation of the manner in which TMPGenc handles images when different "video arrange methods" are used (the various FullScreen and Center types, as well as NoMargin)? The help text within the program is not particularly helpful.
Also, has anyone noted a black level shift when material is encoded with TMPGenc?
I'm bringing in material from digital Betacam through an Avid Symphony at 1:1 (no compression), which comes in as a Quicktime file. Once encoded through TMPGenc, it appears that the black level has risen and that the frame size has enlarged and then been cropped at the edges (so, for instance, a lower third is pushed down past the bottom edge of the screen).
I should have clarified: this is MPEG2 for DVD we're talking about. The material is coming in via serial digital video, at US NTSC, 720x486, with black at 7.5IRE. When encoding is done it looks like black ends up at least 4 or 5 IRE higher.
With reference to your black level query, this may seem like a silly question, but are you comparing the black levels between your video and computer monitor, or are you doing like for like comparisons on your computer monitor?
>With reference to your black level query, this may seem like a silly question, but are you comparing the black levels between your video and computer monitor, or are you doing like for like comparisons on your computer monitor?
There are no silly questions. It's like this: I have a video editing facility based on an Avid Symphony which can output to Ditigal Betacam, the DV formats, Betacam-SP or VHS. Or it can output to Quicktime or AVI. With that in mind, I'm making several comparisons: (1) between the original Avid media as seen on a computer monitor and the encoded MPEG2 as seen on the same monitor; (2) between the file exported from the Avid (which looks just the same as the Avid media) and the MPEG2 on the same monitor; and (3) between a DVD burned from the resulting MPEG2 and a Beta-SP or VHS dub of the same program off the Avid. It seems like the MPEG2 has a consistently high black level, resulting in more evident noise in the blacks and a "greyer" look to them as opposed to a true black. I've seen some systems that try to compensate for RGB levels (where black is R=0,G=0,B=0) going into YUV or video color space where R=16,G=16,B=16. If you feed such a system with a file that already has setup, it will raise it still further and produce something quite like I'm seeing; in those cases there is often a software checkbox somewhere called something like "Vidoe has setup".
Thank you, in research we take a similar attitude: no one is wrong, one merely has a different perspective.
Anyway, I'll take your third point:
>3 between a DVD burned from the resulting MPEG2 and a Beta-SP or VHS dub of the same program off the Avid. It seems like the MPEG2 has a consistently high black level, resulting in more evident noise in the blacks and a "greyer" look to them as opposed to a true black.
I've got my suspicions about this problem. I'll get back to you.
>I should have come to this first:
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>>1. between the original Avid media as seen on a computer monitor and the encoded MPEG2 as seen on the same monitor
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>And..?
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>Griff
...and the encoded file has a higher black level than the original media. Not TONS higher; just a few IRE. But enough to be noticeable.
Ok, process of elimination time. By the way, I'm assuming your using a computer monitor capable of producing a correct black level to begin with (most are >=5 IRE).
Check the Quick time file you're using as the feed, if this is OK, then it's definitely the encoder.
If it is the encoder, then why not load in a test screen and go into "settings -> custom color correction -> add..." and then choose a type and mode.
I'm not sure of the quality of the Quick time file you're using, but if I were going to encode broadcast quality video, I'd use uncompressed AVI as the feed; these files are huge ~1GB/min, but if you split up the video into chapters before encoding, and then delete them after, this method should give very satisfactory results.
>Check the Quick time file you're using as the feed, if this is OK, then it's definitely the encoder.
Done that, and it's definitely the encoder.
>If it is the encoder, then why not load in a test screen and go into "settings -> custom color correction -> add..." and then choose a type and mode.
True; I can certainly do that. I was just wondering if anyone had seen that behavior before and if there was a known workaround.
>I'm not sure of the quality of the Quick time file you're using, but if I were going to encode broadcast quality video, I'd use uncompressed AVI as the feed
The Avid Symphony is a system that is based on code ported to the PC from the Mac, therefore it's Quicktime-native. It uses uncompressed Quicktime as other systems use uncompressed AVI. And while it could output uncompressed AVI if I wanted, it would actually be making a copy of the file at 1GB/min, whereas if I use Quicktime it's really just pointing at the existing file inside the edit system, so it only needs storage space for that, rather than that-plus-a-copy.
Do the white levels get clipped as well? If so, you may want to experiment with the option "Output YUV data as basic YCbCr, not CCIR601" on the "Quantize Matrix" tab. When it's unchecked, it's equivalent to NTSC safe color processing, and it's unchecked by default.
I'm a new user to TMPGEnc so please help. I'm trying to make Mpeg1/2 files from unencrypted vob files. Which I want to transfer to CD and run on my DVD player.
I could do this previously with v2.56. But after reinstalling WinXP Pro yesterday and changing to v2.57 the program goes from 0 to 100% in about half a second and I'm left with a file of just 100Kb.
Im sure it's something completely obvious that I've overlooked!
Are loading the "VOB" files directly into Tmpgenc???This isn"t a very good idea for a few reasons, first Tmpgenc can"t seperate all the differant streams, and for some reason encodeing VOB files takes twice as long as frame serveing them, so I think you shouldn"t have a problem i you used "DVD2AVI" to frame serve the VOB files to Tmpgenc, this is the standard way if backing up dvd"s with Tmpgenc....
Yes I am loading the vob files directly, but they are not very big, no more than 300MB. I'm extracting the music videos, deleted scenes & trailers from the DVD Movies. I am also extracting my favourite music videos from an artists DVD's.
However for storing an entire film I use EasyDivX (v0.82) which generates an .avi/divx file and separate unencrypted vob files. I then take the unencrypted vob file and run it through TMPEnc...........or thats the plan!
As I mentioned, I was able to do this before!
However, now I'm thinking about it, I will check to see if the music vobs Ive changed into Mpeg2's with TMPEnc contained PCM or AC3 audio tracks.
Why oh why do people keep insisting on converting VOB files directly. This method is not only slower, but is less reliable and as minion says there is no way to extract the different streams.
As for using EasyDivX (v0.82) for converting DVD to AVI then to MPEG using TMPG, this is another long winded way which is bound to reduce the quality.
Have a look at the DVD2AVI>TMPG frameserving method. Once you have used this method you won't want to use any other.
Yeah I hear you ASHY people keep trying to convert VOB files I my self was one of those for a while.
But I put this to you If its possible to just load VOB files directly into TMPGenc and it would handle them correctly without any negavites wouldnt it be nice to be able to skip the step of using DVD2AVI.
I wish Hori would build the ability to handle VOB's into TMPGenc. Just combine the code from DVD2AVI into it so it could properly decode and encode them.
I did not say I converted avi's to mpeg. I'm trying to convert vob's to mpeg 1 or 21
I have no problems ripping DVD's to avi's/divx. With my humble 800Mhz P3 it takes just less than twice the DVD's run time to create an avi with EasyDivX
I've currently have around 10 movies on my server for the kids to watch on their own PC's including Titanic (189mins) and Harry Potter (147mins).
Jeeeeeese, I mean who would want these movies clogging up their DVD player for hours on end!!!!!!
But ofcourse I am interested in finding faster ways of ripping DVD's to avi's.
Sorry, it just how your post seems to put it.
Do you want the fastest way bar none of ripping DVD to MPEG.
DVD2AVI>AVIsynth>CCE
3x faster than TMPG and unrivalled picture quality.