Hi, just trying to find out how to convert ntsc(mpeg1) - pal. I have read many posts on this, but all seem to be related to avi files. I have a mpeg file that is ntsc and want to change to Pal. I have stripped the audio to wav, took the file length in secs and ready to alter in cool edit, but canot get vdub to alter framerate, or dvd2avi, probably because it's not an avi! so how do i do it ? think the audio side of it is the same, just the video thats confusing me.
Any help Appreciated.
MickC

What sort of NTSC MPEG is it?
Is it from a DVD or is it just a normal 29.97 fps MPEG.

If it's from a DVD then you could just use Pulldown.EXE to remove the telecining from the file. This will turn it back into it's original 23.976 fps state.

You can then use Restream to alter the frame rate to 25fps.

You cannot convert an NTSC 29.97 fps MPEG to PAL unless it is re-encoded first.
However TMPG doesn't do this too well as the play back will be jerky.
The only programs I know of that can do it right are Canopus Procoder and AVISYNTH.

Thanx Ashy, the file is an mpeg1 352x240 vcd format 4:3 and 29.97fps.
probably converted from avi(ntsc)to vcd.It's never been DVD format.
So far I have checked it plays ok, opened in vdub and extracted the wav. and worked out the full lentgh in seconds( as stated in some previous post I read of yours) I now have cooledit but their are 3 sections to the frame stretch window that you alter the framerate etc, but not sure what to do there.
so I really need i guide for cooledit, and what to do with the mpeg video stream to change to 25fps. I assume you must 1st change both files then mux them b4 re-encoding! or am i way off there?
MickC.

http://bbs.pegasys-inc.com/bbscgi/search/docs/en/tmpgenc/box02/tmpgenc_post_3157.html

http://bbs.pegasys-inc.com/bbscgi/search/docs/en/tmpgenc/box02/tmpgenc_post_3244.html

Thanks for your time ashy, the only thing i seem to be stuck on is the frame server. virtualdub seems to do nothing, I installed the handler ok, but when i start frame server it stays at 0 frames processed, with a stop button, but this is only in a small window, the main window doesn't come on till i press stop. then i have to re-open the video file. Nothing happens, i just end up with i 1kb file saved. Please help again.
Thanx.

Are you actually loading the .AVS file that Virtualdub creates into TMPG?

virtual dub doesnt put a file ext on the saved file unless i name it .vdr or .avi, thats what i end up with, I was informed from minion's post to name the file .avi or vdr, but this is only 1kb and is not supported when i try to load it onto tmpeg. Also when i open the video to vdub, it starts off saying "parsing interleaved mpeg" and goes through the whole file like a scan. I tried load the mpeg into tmpeg and the new .wav and re-encoding to DVD format(pal) but the end result was way off with the sound, even though the file was changed to 25fps and the same length as the audio!
This is an mpeg1 in vcd format(ntsc)29.97 fps, as far as i know its not from dvd, but maybe, over here(uk) this is not out on DVD as yet.
btw; when i start the frameserver, the first window says frameserver name and it put a .mpg file name their, should i change this?, then next window is the save folder where i name the file. underneath says file type ***.vdr and wont give any other option.
Hope this info helps more.
Thanx.

Sorry ignore that about .AVS I dis mean .VDR, just getting myself mixed up there with AVISYNTH.

You don't need to re-name anything except for the .VDR file.
If it doesn't load into TMPG then raise the priority of the 'VFW file reader' until it is top of the list.

ok, I tried that and still get "file unsupported"
Should the frame server do more than just flicker for a second, and should i press stop as nothing happens after the flicker. Just trying to find pulldown 2-3 as mine isn't runing, to try to see if it is interlaced, or maybe i should try a different frameserver?.
cheers Ashy.

Seems like you haven't got the frame server installed correctly to me.
Flicker? What flicker?
The frame server won't do anything until TMPG starts requesting frames from it.

Install the Readavs.dll file below.
Read the instructions carefully! Otherwise it won't work.
If it installs properly then you should see it in your VFAPI plugins.
http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/files/readavs.zip

Thanx for all your help, now i reolise that I have been closing the frameserver by pressing stop, then trying to open the file in tmpeg. This time i left the program open and tmpeg accepted the file and the frameserving started. So I have now deleted all the files iv'e made and will start afresh. As I'm not sure if the audio is the right one.
Many thanks Ashy, will let you know how i get on.(all a learning curve!)

You can see if the audio matches by simply loading the WAV into Virtualdub as the audio to your MPEG or AVI. Play it and if it's OK then just frame serve the whole thing to TMPG as it is.

If the sound is lagging or is advanced then you can use the audio skew correction in Virtualdub to correct it then just frame serve.

when i load an avi to virtual dub it says parsing interleaved mpeg file but it wont let me append the next file, what should i do to join it to another file?

It's not an AVI, it's an MPEG1 file.
You can't append MPEGs with VD. Why would you want to anyway?

I have used tmpgenc for awhile now and I installed it to a new computer and when I first tried to run it the program would tell me that the avi files were very large. I finally discovered that I needed to change the Direct Show VFAPI plug-in. Now when I convert avi to mpeg I will tell it to convert to a certain size and when it is finished It is 100-200 MB larger. What can I do to fix this problem?

I am having problems with the menu. Highlights and the thumnails are not matching. Highlighted section is always shifted almost half way through. I was able to create two DVDs without any problems. When I try it on the computer it's perfectly fine.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance.

I resolved that problem. For all those chapters I was getting "GOP is too long" message. After I re-encoded with correct GOP settings (using TMPGenc Xpress) and burning it again menu shows correctly now.

Request: The DVD Author program needs a CPU Priory setting (like the encoder has), as it would smooth out multitaking (or at least allow me to choose).

Hello,
at 97% converting to MPG2......i'll get an "insufficient memory"-call....
I have about 13Gb free for that file and about 14Gb for its temporary-files...
How much memory do i need to convert an AVI to a MPG2-file with TMPGenc ?

I never do it, because garbage in ---> garbage out. High bitrate does not make high quality when the inut video quality is poor.
More, I don't know the use of temporary files by TMPGenc for the same reason above told. But 14 GB seems too high (a DVD is 4.5 GB!). You seem to be making an uncompessed AVI!
But you can calculate the VBR settings with FitCD, if you really want to make a SVCD file. Probably the bitrate settings you were used were absurd.

Any idea when an improved version of TDA 1.6 will be out ?

It has a lot of potential - just needs some fine tuning.

- Chris

I have been using TDA 1.6, and it seems to work well, with some rough edges.

But, comparing the same project (compliant MPG, split into 4 no-motion chapters, with a one page menu), Ulead MF3 writes the DVD folders to HDD in 5.5 minutes, and TDA 1.6 takes 9.5. In both cases, the source MPG is on drive D: and the target folder is Drive F:, so the comparison is fair.

Both produce a perfect DVD when played back on a standalone or PC player.

- Chris

Maybe Motion Menu is still activated. If so, TDA will produce a Motion Menu, even if you don't want one.

Motion Menu is deactivated - and besides, the motion menu portion of the process still only takes 2 minutes on average, even when selected. Ulead is faster than TDA when Ulead is doing motion menus, and TDA is not. Faster by 3-4 minutes even this way.

- Chris

Anybody has the experience of converting any
files that is optimised for pocket pc using
tmpegenc xpress? What is the setting and any
template available?

Thanks

Try the settings described in this FAQ:

http://www.pocketmovies.net/faq.php

Hi
I'm using Tmpgenc 3.0 Xpress and when I load the source file the video source is 1hr 43mins however the audio source is 4hrs 51mins so what I do not understand is why the audio source has quadripled in size.The length of the movie is 1hr 43mins.Can someone kindly help me with this problem.

Maybe TMPGenc cannot well decode the audio. Load the movie with VirtualDubMod and demux the audio (Stream --> Stream list --> Demux. Then use BeSweet (+ GUI ) and convert it to MP2 (profile: MP2 for SVCD).
Then add the MP2 audio stream to the movie: open the movie with VirtuaDubMod, do Stream --> Stream list ---> Add the MP2 and --> Delete the old sound stream. Set Video___Direct Stream copy and File --> Save it (F7). After that, check the lip-sync in the new AVI: old video and the MP2 audio you made.
Now, converting this new AVI, TMPGenc should understand the sound well.

I'm trying to use the TMMG products to encode some fansubbed anime so I can watch it on a normal DVD player and I'm having some problems. The source file is a XVid AVI file which plays fine in media player.

Using TPMGEnc 2.5 the video encodes ok but appears to be sped up and goes out of sync with the audio. (right off the subtitles about 10 seconds in don't match the audio by a second or 2) It appears way too fast, I'm guessing that it's somehow playing the video at 30 fps and the audio is still synced to a 24 fps image. (the clip is 24 fps)

Using TMPGEnc 3.0 on the same AVI file I get no sound(!). I'm not sure how TMPGEnc 2.5 can find the audio but 3.0 can't. In 3.0 if you preview the file in the clip area and show the sound it just shows a flatline.

Using TPMGEnc DVD Source creator works except that I cannot find a way to scale the video; specifically I want to shrink the video slightly to add some blank area to allow for overscan; if I don't do this then the resultant video on the tv has part of the subtitles chopped due to overscan. The option in the TMPGEnc programs that lets you play with the output video (full frame, centered, centered (custom) etc.) appears to not be in this program.

Can anyone help me out with the inconstencies with the various products? I don't really care which I get to work; I don't mind paying for the software. I just want it to actually work before I pay for it. If I use DVD Source creator (the least desirable option due to the relative lack of flexibility) then I need some way to scale the image to allow for overscan, if I use the other programs I need them to do the right thing.

The clip info is as follows: (from TMPGEnc 3.0)

Video: 33,305 frames, 23.976 fps, 23 min 9 sec 9, 640x480
Audio: 66674304 samples, 48000 Hz, 23 min 9 sec 4, 2 ch

The only trick I know is:

1) load the movie with VirtualDub. Set Audio__Full processing mode and do File___Save WAV..
2) the 1+ GB (! for a 2h movie) .WAV file must be .MP2 compressed with BeSwet chosing, as profile, 'MP2 for SVCD'. Laer the .WAV can be deleted.
3) the MP2 file must be used as 'audio input' by TMPGenc instead of the default input (the AVI movie).

everytime i load a d2v file and a wav to encode to svcd i get an error saying

Read Error Occurred at address 015E6614 of module 'dvd2avi.vfp' with 01DAFD0F

it starts to encode then shows that msg

any ideas?

thanks TheNine

No ideas. I only know that some DVD2AVI version aren't fit for TMPGenc (1.76 is said do be better). But I converted 5 DVDs to VCDs usingthe guide http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=59422 (DVD2AVI as TMPGenc frameserver) then TMPGenc started to give me a blank screen (imposibility to load D2V project). I haven't still understood why. I had to use DVD2AVI to make VOB --> AVIs (maximum Xvid/Divx codec quality, size = VOB), instead. The problem is that the AVI as no sound and the AVI is split every 2 GB. (later you'll have to do TMPGenc --> MPEG tools --> merge the pieces).
The problem is that I need a lot of HD space and that I've to load the sound separately when I, with TMPGenc, make AVI --> MPG. Multiplexing is impossible since you need to convert 48 Hz --> 44.1 Hz.
I had to
1) make a 'mute MPG' converting the DVD2AVI's 'mute AVI' with TMPGenc --> Motion Search Precision = Very Slow - Highest Quality. After the conversion, the huge AVI (Xvid/DivX maximum profile with the highest AVI quality --> praticlally 'no compression' and AVI's size like VOB's) can be deleted.
2) make a 'dummy MPG' with sound adding the mute AVI to the MP2 file (AC3 converter to MP2 with BeSweet) with Motion Search Precision = Fast - Lowest Quality,
3) make the full MPG by multiplexing the mute MPG with the dummy MPG with sound.
After that, and checking lip-sync, I can delete the mute MPG end the dummy MPG with sound.
Rather complicated, isn't it?

yea ur right it is pretty complicated, ill have a play around with dvd2avi see if i can upgrade/or downgrade to a version that works, i've always done vob -> avi -> mpg but the size is always 2 or 3 cds

but thanks anyway ill see if i can give it a try

TheNine

That message is usually a memory stick problem.
Either you have 2 sticks which aren't compatible with each other or it is dodgy.

It could also be caused by a codec problem. If you have one of those stupid codec packs installed then you're just asking for trouble.

The version of DVD2AVI you use shouldn't really make a difference, but I have always prefered 1.76 as this gives me compatibility to use Smartripper .d2v files.
You could try raising the priority of the 'DVD2AVI project file reader' to 2 and ensure it is top of the list in the VFAPI plugins.
Also copy the DVD2AVI.vfp from the the DVD2AVI folder and paste it into your TMPG folder.

Another tip. NEVER use the highest quality setting in TMPG for encoding. It is well accepted on this board by most long term members that this setting does absolutely nothing to improve the quality of the output apart from dramatically increase the encoding time.

'Higher' will give a slight improvement in the quality.

l am using Win Me Japanese verson, how can l change it back from Japanese to English?
lf there is no way to change, how someone describe the three options to edit a mpg file?
After l choose the first option to cut out a large part of a movie, it asks me to overwrite the orginal file, but when l press yes, a error comes out that l dont know the meaning of, did l miss something?

Eh..why have you got the Japanese ME if you don't understand Japanese?