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I have made several XVCDs or CVDs or whatever you call them in the past. I have used the SVCD settings to get good video quality and it works on my DVD player. But after converting a test clip of video without audio using the normal VCD standards, it seems the conversion process was much faster. In the past when converting a 1 minute clip using SVCD standards (with audio), it took 10 minutes. For my VCD test clip, it took 3 minutes! Maybe it was the fact that it didn't have audio? Just wondering if I should encode all my video to 352x240 instead of 480x480...since all my source AVIs are around 500x???, it would be safe to convert to 352x240 right?
Yes VCD will encode faster than SVCD because you are encoding to a lesser resolution. Higher resolutions contain more data in the image and therfore longer to encode plus add that to the fact you didn't encode the audio which would speed it up somewhat.
As for your question about what format should you encode to VCD or SVCD. It depends on your view about quality. If crappy VCD is good enough for you then fine go ahead, but SVCD is twice the quality of VCD and seeing as your AVI's are almost the same resolution as SVCD why waste that quality on VCD.
Yup, I'm patient enough! :) I have a problem. I thought VCD MPEGs were of lesser quality thus smaller file size? I have an AVI that has AC3 audio. So I extracted the audio using AviMUX and then made it have CD quality. Then I normalized the audio in TMPGEnc and encoded to VCD format. But the sizes shot up! The source AVI was 177MB while the MPEG was 352MB! Why is that?! Is it because of the higher quality audio? WOuld it make any difference if I lowered the constant quality to 80% (it was at 100)? Do you think it would fit 3 files of the same size onto 1 700MB CD-R with overburning? Let's hope it does, I don't want to cut out the opening credits like last time. :(
The Size of the AVI file has Absolutely nothing to do with the size it will be if you encoded it to Mpeg..What Matters is the "Length" of the AVI file...So if that AVI file is say 35 minutes Long then 352mb is the Correct size if you encoded it to VCD...But yes you should Lower the Quality slider down to about 70% then the File size will be smaller....
It was 26 minutes. :( I am having trouble fitting the third AVI onto the same disc because the second MPEG I just encoded was 268MB, it was at a quality of 80 too. :( I don't want to sacrifice any more quality. Good thing CDR come cheap!
This DivX I got, it has a VBR sound so when I encode it audio doesn't match video at certain places... It starts fine but then slowly gets out of tune so I can't just shift the audio. I tried both PCM and simply exctracting the audio with VirtualDub. AviMux doesn't handle it at all - takes 2 seconds and then says 'done' and file is 70Ks... It also won't let me choose the 'cd quality' - reports an error. What else can I do?
There are 2 Things you can Try, You can Try to extract it with Virtual Dub_mod as it is supposed to be able to Properly handle VBR MP3...Or you can take the Audio that you extracted that doesn"t sync up and Put it in a Good audio editor and Time stretch the audio to the exact same length as the Video..You can Use something like Cool Edit or Sound Forge But I use Vegas Video 4 cuz I can also Put the Video on the Timeline and make sure that the audio syncs up, come to think of it Sound Forge does this also..But you would be better off Trying to get Virtual Dub Mod to do it....
I'm not sure how you extracted your audio using Virtual Dub. Maybe this would help. You will the Virtual Dub (not the mod version). Open your AVI, then go to the audio menu and set the audio to "Full processing mode". Do not leave it at "Direct stream copy"! Then select "File" and "Save WAV" to save the audio track as an uncompressed WAV file.
Yes, Sakuya that's what I've always done. I get an audio file that's exactly the same in length as the original DivX [I checked in Media Player] and for the first ten or so minutes it seems fine BUT it slowly starts getting out of order and towards the end of the movie I have a 2 second delay [so it's not just a shifted sound]... Usually VirtualDub handles VBR sound files just fine and I don't even need to shift anything but in this case it does :(
Actually, what's weird is that the files I downloaded previously (it's a series) always had AC3, and it's weird that the current one has VBR (no wonder AviMUX won't work correctly). So I was just wondering if anyone could help me. I'm worried that the audio might go out of sync (it never has before for other AVIs). What should I do if it goes out of sync!? *panics* Help!
If I have a Mpeg that is out of Sync Because the audio is the Wrong length I usually Load the Mpeg file into Vegas Video and use the Time stretch feature to stretch or shrink the audio track to the exact same length as the Video track then render the File as a Mpeg 1 Layer 2 audio file and mux it with the Mpeg Video ,You can do it with AVI files also and Many other Formats and Sound Forge has simular features but most poeple don"t that all the Software I do so you Might just try and get something like Cool Edit to Stretch/Shrink the audio to the Exact length as the Video....Good Luck...
>Stretch/Shrink the audio to the Exact length as the Video>
Yea, but the audio file that I extract from the DivX is EXACT same lenght as the video... I compared them in MediaPlayer. In any case I didn't find any solution and doing it manually doesn't seem like such an appealing option. Thanx anyway
I'm spliting up a large mpeg file into shorter 10 minute(ish) clips. The problem is that it was working fine untill about 40 minutes into the movie. I can play the movie in the edit window after that point, but no matter where I put the end point for the cut the clip always ends after that 40 minute mark
Well there is No Magic setting that will make the Merge & Cut work when it doesn"t want to work ,So then only option is to use a Different Mpeg editor, You should be able to find a freeware one if you look on google...
I having a problem with some AVI files which losing the sound when converting
them to MPEG with TMPGENC (some files are converted without any problem).
Installing a AC3 filter still in most cases will not allow Tmpgenc to decode AC3 audio ,It is a Known Limitation of the Software but I hear that Hori is going to implement AC3 decodeing and Possibly AC3 Encodeing in version 3 of Tmpgenc..Tmpgenc has Problems with AC3 and VBR MP3 audio so it usually needs to be extracted and Decompressed to Wav..Virtual Dub Mod can extract them and so can AVI-Mux ,and Virtual Dub_Mpeg2_AC3 can extract AC3 from VOB giles to Wav...
I've been trying to encode several AVI files that I have with TMPGE. The problem is after I load the file into TMPGE it is displayed as having twice the time and frames that it really has. This would be no more then an annoyance, but when tmpge reached the 50% point (meaning it has really encoded the whole file) it keeps trying to encode, then it crashes, and the resulting mpg file is corrupted and unplayable. I am using Divx 5.05 codec for decoding. It reports the correct time code to every other porgram? Any suggestions?
Well Try this , Go to "Settings" to the "Advanced" settings and double click the "Source Range" and use the source range to set the beginning Points and end points of your File then it should just encode the File from beginning to end and nothing extra...
I have the same problem. I think there is something wrong with the audio. I used source range to cut the file but after I finish encoding there was no sound. Can someone help me out?
Well with a Lot of Downloaded DivX or XviD movies have non-stabdard Audio formats that Tmpgenc can"t handle so you have to extract the audio from the AVI file to wav format first and use the wav file as the audio source...You can extract the audio useing AVI-Mux or Virtual Dub...
Ok I opened the file that I was having a problem with in VirtualDub and it immediately gave me an error that the audio stream had a bad VBR header on it and that I should convert it to PCM WAV. I did this which took about 2 minutes, (use direct stream copy for video stream). When I reopened the file in TMPGe it had the correct time code and the audio was perfect, sync and all. Thanks for the help, I hope this will help others.
I have a feeling that there is a standard and annoying excuse for not havin this. The excuses usually range from, 'no one uses it' to 'jpeg is good enough.' Well it isn't inho. Image quality is important, more so if you start with something that might contain minor and barely noticable flaws, which jpeg 'may' in some cases amplify. If you are producing the images for something to be shown on a TV or the like, where the quality of what is shown tend to hide many flaws, then this is not a major problem. However, a lot of stuff produced is now made to be shown on computers, where flaws won't be hidden. If shifts or other glitches exist in the original pre-stream images, then there is not much you can do to remove them during compression without farther degrading the image.
The obvious answer for most people is likely to immediately be, 'well then just use BMP or something'. Great idea, as long as you are already being paid for your work and have a lot of space to store the images. If you are limited on space and don't have the kind of income that allows you to upgrade your system every time the project you want to do (especially as a hobby) grows beyond what the hard drive can store, then you can't 'just use BMP'. PNG provides a decent solution to this issue, providing a no-quality loss image, but compressed enough to be useful.
It frankly bugs me that it is not supported in things where its use can be a significant benifit.
Well I'll just throw in my few cents worth just to annoy you.
My simple answer is that TMPG is in actual fact an encoder designed for MPEG encoding, the other formats it can handle are just a bonus. So if you need the feature that you ask for find a program that is designed for it.
> TMPG is in actual fact an encoder designed for MPEG encoding
??? What the heck does this have to do with anything? Of course it is an MPEG encoder, but you have to encode the stream from some other source. I see neither a practical reason nor a logical one to limit those sources to file types that are at best inconvenient, at worse degrade the image, or even worse, are something like AVI, which may just add its own complications to the mix. I'm sorry, but I never saw the logic in having to use 3-4 different programs just to convert something into a format that a program like this one can actually encode. This is just plain stupid imho.
Yes, being able to encode from a list of files might be a 'bonus', but if so, that doesn't leave a whole hell of a lot of file types it can encode from without that bonus. Why is supporting a decent format that saves the user some storage space any less reasonable a thing for a program like this to have?
I swear, half the time, trying to do anything with video or 3D graphics is like a bloody digital version of a Rube Goldberg machine. Why do something in one simple step if you can do it in six steps, take ten times as long and use twenty times the disk space to do it? You can't tell me this actually makes any practical sence to you. lol
The problem here is that in your eagerness to have a rant you didn't quite clarify your problem.
It seemed to me you were seeking to encode to this PNG format not use it as a source which is why I made the comment about TMPG being an MPEG encoder.
If all you need to do is import this format into TMPG as a source then that is simple. Use AVIsynth or Virtualdubmod to frame serve the clips to TMPG.
It maybe an extra step, but it's only one and it only takes a moment to set up.
Sorry. This is sort of a sore point with me. lol Seems like everything I ever buy or download has some statement in it that says, 'but if you want to do this, you will need program x, y and z.' This gets quite annoying and I ran into the problem several times this last week, which got on my nerves. ;) lol
Your suggestion does look to be a decent solution, if slightly annoying, since it won't work in a direct fashion. I still would prefer in the long run seeing it as a real option, but for now I guess learning yet another script system will have to do. lol
Avisynth is not really that hard to learn once you get the hang of it and it does work with the files you wish to import. If you do any sort of serious video work then you will find AVIsynth invaluable.
The only thing is that it seems to flip the picture upside down with these files, so you would have to use the FLIPVERTICAL command to correct this.
If you don't want to bother with scripts then Virtualdubmod is the best solution.
Yeah. I code in POV-Ray SDL script, VBScript, some JavaScript and recently dabbled in Python. Unfortunately it seems that AVISynth has the same problem the mud client I use had for close to a year or more, the docs that are local to the users machine are out of date and don't even show the ImageReader command. Had to look at the online docs to find it...
The irony here is that 24 hours after your suggesting someone pointed me to this:
It includes a plugin file (guess you would called it beta) for TMPGEnc that reads PNG directly. Its nice to find out that having fallen out of a plane that you got lucky and hit a matress factory, but slightly less helpful when you hit it several days before they actually start building it. lol Dues Ex Machina isn't much help if it happens after you originally needed it. ;)
Hmm.. You can tell I have been re-reading Terry Pratchett's Discworld series the last few days...
Video Stream: Motion Video, 320x240, 29.97003fps (NTSC), 1024kbps
Audio Stream: Audio Standard MPEG layer2 Stereo, 32KHz, 327680bps
I would like to make VCD or SVCD with them.
My TV is PAL and my DVD player can play both VCD and SVCD.
A CAT HTC 2002 but in SVCD the menue is crupted but video files play OK.
Since my original files are only 320x240 is the any point in making them SVCD? As this needs twice as much time to render as VCD.
Which imput aspect should I set, 4:3 or 4:3 NTSC or some other?
Any pointers as how best to produce SVCD / VCD would be most helpfull.
when I trie to encode from an avi to mpeg ik keep getting this violation error:
Write error occured at address 77F73AED of module 'ntdll.dll' with 00000000
This error usually happens with XviD files, what usually works is to delete the XviD codec and install the FFDShow Decoder and configure it to decode XviD files then the error shouldn"t pop up...
Video Stream: Motion Video, 320x240, 29.97003fps (NTSC), 1024kbps
Audio Stream: Audio Standard MPEG layer2 Stereo, 32KHz, 327680bps
I would like to make VCD or SVCD with them.
My TV is PAL and my DVD player can play both VCD and SVCD.
A CAT HTC 2002 but in SVCD the menue is crupted but video files play OK.
Since my original files are only 320x240 is the any point in making them SVCD? As this needs twice as much time to render as VCD.
Which imput aspect should I set, 4:3 or 4:3 NTSC or some other?
Any pointers as how best to produce SVCD / VCD would be most helpfull.
Are these files not already VCD?
It seems to me you already have an MPEG. If that is the case and your DVD player can handle NTSC then all you need to do is add a VCD header to the MPEG by running it through the simple multiplexer, set the stream type to 'MPEG1 VCD' then just burn as a VCD.
Note: you will most likely need a multi standard TV to play NTSC sources on you player. Most modern TV's are.
If it can't handle NTSC then you will have to convert to PAL VCD, but unfortunately this is tricky to do properly. So post back if you need further assistance.
And 320+240 isn"t Quite VCD Resolution But it Might play but it would be a non-Standard VCD, If it doesn"t then you Might have to encode it to the Proper VCD resolution...unless 320+240 was a Typo...
You Might need More ram...And if your PC is Only 500mhz it is Goung to take a Long time to encode as 500mhz is really slow, You can Probably upgrade to a 2ghz for about $100...
How much RAM do you have?
I still think this is a virtual memory issue.
Which operating system are you using and are you letting Windows manage your swap file?
Have you tampered with TMPG's default Temp and folder settings?
I have 128 MB RAM and set the virtual memory to 256.
I use Windows 98 SE.
And I also changed the TMPGEnc-temp-path. The temp-file is saved now on the drive with the most space.
Should I transfer the swap file to my video drive, too??
Firstly your virtual memory setting is far too low for video work when you only have 128mb of RAM. To be honest with the limited amount of RAM you have, which is very low for video work, you should let windows manage your swapfile. This way it will dynamically expand as more size is required.
Also it is usually not a good idea to mess with TMPG's Temp settings as this commonly causes problems, leave it at default.
How much avaulable space do you have on your default drive?
It always advisable to have your swapfile on a seperate drive from the operating system providing this drive is just as fast as the default drive.
>Everybody says that you should set the swap file to a fixed size when you do video work. You are the first who don't agree...
Maybe, but you don't have enough RAM for video work as I said nor is your swap file large enough. 3.5x your RAM at least is recommended for the swap file setting.
No, I don't think I had to less RAM for video work. I do video work since four years with "only" 128 RAM.
MPEG encoding was the only thing I had trouble with.