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Question TE25 buffer underflow interesting results jetty 5 2002-12-24 14:02:26
Question TE25 How to get from avi to VCD with fluent image Hiddendragon 1 2002-12-17 18:17:25
Question TE25 audio not working z_zoube 2 2002-12-17 17:42:29
Question TE25 audio not working z_zoube 0 2002-12-17 16:34:02
Question TE25 frame skip occurs after conversion Darrell 1 2002-12-17 11:02:13
Question TE25 704x384 avi to SVCD Supi 12 2002-12-20 00:39:07
Question TE25 is there an option for rotating picture? mike 4 2002-12-17 18:09:32
Question TE25 After encoding many files succesfully, now won't open my mpegs kbks36 1 2002-12-17 10:53:54
Question TE25 hissing sound after encoding erik 1 2002-12-17 10:34:54
Free talk TE25 Error every 2 seconds of encode nick 1 2002-12-17 22:18:13
Question TE25 no audio after encoding shlomic_thailand 1 2002-12-16 22:09:34
Question TE25 Best quality on SVCD john 4 2002-12-17 18:25:16

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Question - TE25 - buffer underflow interesting results No.32039
jetty  2002-12-17 18:52:54 ( ID:cai47j4msd6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello,

Nice to see you again.
I hope you are not bored about the theme. :-)
I extracted a clip from a movie DVD and run demux and mux with TMPGenc Mpeg Tools. Clip was of 500Mb, 10 min and result was some 200.000 s buffer undeflows
I copied whole 1048Kb vob (where the clip was) from unencrypted movie DVD to HD. Handled it with Tmpgencas like the clip and there weren't any buffer underflows (=0). Next I Hexedited the 1 Gb vob to the same clip and checked it with binary file compare, it was exact copy of the smaller clip vob.
Now I checked the vob again with TMPGenc - and it had the same exact number of buffer underflows. I checked the headers with vobedit and played files with software DVD player, everything normal.
The question is what is the meaning of TMPGenc buffer state report?
Does it makes any sense at all?



ASHY  2002-12-18 22:32:36 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

As long as the correct VBV buffer size has been chosen in the first place, buffer underflow errors are usually just caused by incorrect muxing rate.
The muxing rate TMPG chooses for VBR files isn't always correct and a few hundred underflows is unlikely to do any harm anyway.

The muxing rate should be altered according to the bitrate and BBMPEG has a better muxer than TMPG which will allow the muxing rate to be changed.

With MPEG2 files setting the muxing rate to '0' will force BBMPEG to scan the MPEG for the correct muxing rate. This doesn't work with MPEG1 files though, but the correct muxing rate for MPEG1 can be maually set.

This way you should never get underflow or overflow errors.

ASHY


jetty  2002-12-24 10:07:51 ( ID:wh3.zdbxedc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello!

Thanks for a replay.
I haven't found correct bbMPEG with mentioned capabilities to multiplex m2v and audio (mp2 or ac3). The one I have tried is downloadable under the name BBMPEG but instead it's executive file is anmed avi2mpeg and while it may accept some streams as input there isn't any options to control muxing rate. Included in the downloaded zipd is also a bbmpeg.dll, which appearently works with avi2mpeg only or only as a plugin for something else.
Obviously it's not the one you mentioned. I have tried to search something else with the same name unsuccessfully. Can you give any hints where to download the one with capabilities you mentioned?
tia jetty
Happy Christmas!


jetty  2002-12-24 10:35:17 ( ID:wh3.zdbxedc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello!

Likely it's still the same application and these options are all under start encoding command... But the problem is that none of these streams wouldn't load.
Nor m2v alone nor vob. Application just hangs. I tried with some othere vobs and these opened normally. While all are from commercial DVD titles, where I'd like to extract a clip! What is "wrong" with some vobs or m2v's which aren't even encrypted?


ASHY  2002-12-24 13:56:06 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

BBMPEG can be downloaded here:
http://www.divx-digest.com/software/avi2mpg2.html

If you are using Win XP then you may need the patch.
To multiplex click: Start encoding>Settings
Load your files in.
You will find the muxing option under the 'Program stream settings' tab

ASHY


ASHY  2002-12-24 14:02:26 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Check this out.
http://www.spawns.dk/svcd/bbmpeg.htm

ASHY



Question - TE25 - How to get from avi to VCD with fluent image No.32037
Hiddendragon  Home )  2002-12-17 17:51:39 ( ID:lpwgxokawr. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

When i convert a avi to VCD , the image has a hitch after every second and i don't know how to solve this problem.
When you are watching the VCD the image isn't fluent all the time

PLz help me


ASHY  2002-12-17 18:17:25 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You have altered the framerate. TMPG will not do correct fraerate conversion. AVIsynth can do this.

ASHY



Question - TE25 - audio not working No.32034
z_zoube  2002-12-17 16:37:53 ( ID:xta1s14jujw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

i have a movie which is Divx and the audio is in Mpeg layer 3.
after encoding it to VCD/MPG-1 i don't have audio.


steve bateman  2002-12-17 17:14:58 ( ID:a4.jcfbbmuj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hi I was wondering if you got the audio problem sorted as I'm having exactly the same issue.

Cheers


ASHY  2002-12-17 17:42:29 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Extract the audio to a wav file with AVImux or Virtualdub.

ASHY



Question - TE25 - audio not working No.32033
z_zoube  2002-12-17 16:34:02 ( ID:xta1s14jujw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

The sound doesn't work when i play it on windows media palyer and on my dvd player. How come ???



Question - TE25 - frame skip occurs after conversion No.32031
Darrell  2002-12-17 09:22:05 ( ID:wsiilbqc0in )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

i can play the original mpeg1/mpeg2 file well but after convert to mpeg vcd compliant with tmpgenc frame skip occurs.how do i fix it?


minion  2002-12-17 11:02:13 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

What exactly do you Mean By "Frame Skip:??? What it sounds like to Me is that you have encoded the file to a Different Frame rate than the AVI file..The Mpeg file has to have the Same frame rate as the AVI file or you will get Jumpy Playback.....



Question - TE25 - 704x384 avi to SVCD No.32018
Supi  2002-12-17 08:07:07 ( ID:4snbthi3jla )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello,

I hava a avi-video with 704x384 pixels and want to convert it to mpeg2 to make a SVCD. When I convert the avi to mpg2 the video is to small and to high. I tested several modes: center, center (aspect ratio), center (custom) - but I haven't found the correct mode for SVCD. When I use the center (aspect ratio), I will get a correct ratio but on the left and right side "some film is missing". What is the correct setting, to get the complete film with borders at the top and bottom?

Best Regards

Supi


B_Racer  2002-12-17 10:27:01 ( ID:gxmkoa4dlnj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Don't forget to tell us, if it is PAL or NTSC.
I think, it's a wrong resized PAL 1.85:1-Video, but it can also be a wrong resized NTSC-Video. So it's impossible to tell you, what to do.
But it's always a good Idea, to use FitCD and AVISynth for a correct, fast and High-Quality resizing.





minion  2002-12-17 11:00:03 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Some of the sides will allways be cut off ,or there will be exsesive borders on the top and botom, Use the "Clip Frame" settings in the "Advanced settings" to Adjust the Frame so it looks the way you want it to....


Supi  2002-12-17 12:43:44 ( ID:4snbthi3jla )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

OK, I have installed FitCD and aviSynth. I have made the script with FitCD - it looks as follows:
# -= AviSynth script by FitCD v1.1.2 =-
#LoadPlugin("D:PathOfAnyPlugin.dll")
AviSource("S:+DIVX+ estmovie estmovie.avi")
BicubicResize(448,352,0,0.6,10,0,668,320)
AddBorders(16,112,16,112)
#Trim(0,120550).FadeOut(150)
But what must I do now?
Sorry - the avi is in PAL-Format


B_Racer  2002-12-17 13:33:19 ( ID:gxmkoa4dlnj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Open the Script with TMPGEnc and set the Positioning Methode to Center or Full Screen (both will work correctly).

You can also do the following:
Decode the Audio-Part to WAV using VirtualDub.
Open the Video as Source in TMPGEnc, open the WAV as Audio-Source.

Set Positioning Methode to Center (Custom Size) 464x384
Set Clip-Frame to: Left 4, Right 4, no Masking.

It's a different Methode which gives you more of the Picture.


Supi  2002-12-17 15:03:44 ( ID:4snbthi3jla )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thank you for your answer first. When I try to "load" (open video source) the script - i get an error: file "s:+divx+... estmovie.avi.avs" can not open, or unsupported.

Where must I "load" in TMPGEnc???
I have got a test-avi-video with 704x384 Pixels and one with 688x262 Pixels. Is there a general way to convert to mpeg2 for svcd in TMPGEnc without much more tools?


B_Racer  2002-12-17 15:51:03 ( ID:gxmkoa4dlnj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

If AVISynth is installed correctly, TMPGEnc should open the Script without Problems. Have you tried to open the Video and the Script in MadiaPlayer?
If MadiaPlayer is able to play the Video, TMPGEnc can read it. Maybe you need a additional Codec.

You can convert AVI to MPEG2 without further Tools, but on DivX-AVIs or ASF/WMV-Fiels you may have Problems with the Sound, therefor it's a good Idea to use an other Tool for Converting the Audio-Part first.



ASHY  2002-12-17 17:58:29 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

All these extra steps are unecessary. Any strange aspect ratios can be corrected with just TMPG, no other tools are needed.

Firstly your 704x384 AVI is simply a 16:9 PAL anamorphic movie.
Choosing the '16:9 625 line (PAL)' as the source aspect ratio setting under the Video tab and 'Full screen(keep aspect ratio)' as the 'Video arrange method' under the Advanced tab should give you the correct picture size and ratio ( you shouldn't lose any of the original picture).

Also you are creating a SVCD with a frame size of 480x576, so remember the aspect ratio will not be correct when played with media player, it will be squashed vertically and look longer horizontally.
Don't worry your DVD player or your PC DVD player software will correct the aspect ratio to give you a correct sized movie.

ASHY


Supi  2002-12-18 12:55:15 ( ID:4snbthi3jla )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello - and thank you for your tip! I will try to convert my movie with your named settings:
Input: 16:9 625 Line (PAL)
Output: ClipFrame - ArrangeSetting - Full Screen (Keep AspectRatio)

I will burn a test-CD and look at home on my DVD-Player what happens...


Thanks so long (I hope, it will work...)


ASHY  2002-12-18 22:36:37 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Let me know.


Supi  2002-12-19 08:43:53 ( ID:4snbthi3jla )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello!
I have encoded the film last night with those settings. Today I watched the mpg-file on my Laptop with PowerDVD - and it looks fine! Now I will split the file into tree segments and burn the first CD. When I go home for lunch at 11.30 am, I take the CD with me and look at home, what my DVD-Player and my TV do with that SVCD...
I let you know how it ends...

Best regards


Supi  2002-12-19 12:00:59 ( ID:4snbthi3jla )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello again - and many many thanks - it works!!!
The film comes correctly on the TV over the DVD-Player!!!
Now I can delete all other Programms like VirtualDub, AviSynth, FitCD and so on...


Best regards!!!!!!!!


ASHY  2002-12-20 00:39:07 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Glad you got sorted.

ASHY



Question - TE25 - is there an option for rotating picture? No.32013
mike  2002-12-17 04:20:30 ( ID:f59czhdfq2k )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

ok i used this beatiful program to encode a movie from divx to a mpeg1 ,, but as i encoded it i probably miss'd an option that i can use to flip the image so it isn't upside down when i play it on my dvd player, is there any option that would allow me to rotate the movie ????


B_Racer  2002-12-17 10:28:03 ( ID:gxmkoa4dlnj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

TMPGEnc can't do this, but VirtualDub can.


minion  2002-12-17 10:57:33 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

So your Problem is that the AVI file Plays upside right But after encodeing to Mpeg the image is Upside down??? Or is it Upside right in Mpeg format But upside down on your DVD Player???Well you can try Frame serveing it to With Virtual Dub and see if it is displayed Upside right ,and you can use it to rotate it also Like B_Racer Said...


mike  2002-12-17 14:38:04 ( ID:f59czhdfq2k )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

ok thx guys will try ,, thx again


ASHY  2002-12-17 18:09:32 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

If your AVI Movies are playing upsidedown in media player then this is related to a codec problem unless this movie was ccreated upside down.

This problem has been posted before and if I remember rightly was solved by installing the correct codec.

Your AVI is probably using the wrong codec to decode the movie causing this problem. Check the FourCC code of the AVI and download the correct relevant codec.

If your saying TMPG is causing the flip then this is an unusual problem.
In this case I would try re-installing TMPG and raising the priority of the 'Dirtectshow reader' in the VFAPI plugins.

Does the image look upside down in the preview when encoding and does it play upside down in media player?

ASHY



Question - TE25 - After encoding many files succesfully, now won't open my mpegs No.32011
kbks36  2002-12-17 01:44:03 ( ID:euv9znlec2m )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Well, I have been capturing dvd quality mpeg2 files with MyDVD , ,through an Adaptec avc2200. For several days everything went fine with TMPGEN, I had my own template set up for very high quality SVCDs. Today, I went to encode a file as usual, but I get the error message about "file cannot open or is unsupported." I have never seen that before. I did not change any settings. And the Mpeg files are fine, they play in powerdvd and in ulead videostudio6. The files are fine.

Any ideas what could be causing the sudden problem, after working fine for so long?

I read many threads with similar problems and tried the suggestions but I think it is something more sinister, like a conflict with another program possibly.
Thanks to anyone out there who can shed some light.


minion  2002-12-17 10:53:54 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Well All you can do is Try Raiseing the Priority of the "Cyberlink Mpeg2 Decoder" But if that doesn"t work they That Is probably better Cuz the best way to encode Mpeg2 file with Tmpgenc is to use DVD2AVI to make a D2V file and encode that with Tmpgenc..Tmpgenc doesn"t seem to decode Mpeg files as Fast or as good as DVD2AVI..I used to Have the same USB Setup that you have and Quickly came to the conclution that I could get Better Quality useing a $30 BT878a Capture card and capture to a Low compression high Resolution AVI format Like HuffyUV or Pic-Video Mjpeg then Encode the AVI files to Mpeg2, Because captureing to Mpeg2 Is a Lossy Format and HuffyUV isn"t you get Much better results captureing to AVI But you do need a Very Large Hard drive to Capture to high Quality AVI, I use a ATA/133 120GB drive and it is barelt large enough to hold a Whole movie in Low compression AVI..But as Far as Mpeg2 Capture devices go it is one of the better consumer products for Mpeg2 capture even Considering that it is a USB device that has a Much Lower data through Put than PCI...



Question - TE25 - hissing sound after encoding No.32009
erik  2002-12-17 01:27:45 ( ID:uj4bzxdhryn )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

i get a continuous hissing sound for the mpeg1 files that i have encoded, how can i resolve this? can anyone advise me?


minion  2002-12-17 10:34:54 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Well you can use something else to encode the audio like "Headac3he" or you can use a External Audio encoder Plugin for Tmpgenc Like "Toolame" or "SCMPX"..They can be found on any Search engine...



Free talk - TE25 - Error every 2 seconds of encode No.32007
nick  2002-12-17 00:21:04 ( ID:z/xu2ebrh.6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

During the Encoding Process, An error window pops up every 2 seconds - pausing the encoding. Error 9616 9616. I push Ok and it continues encoding. It still works but I don't want to sit and keep pushing Ok Ok Ok Ok for like the 6 hours it takes to encode the thing on the highest quality. What does the Error 9616 9616 mean and how can I fix the issue?

-Thanks
-Nick


minion  2002-12-17 22:18:13 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

If you Only get this problem with Certain Files then the Problem is with the Files and Not tmpgenc..The Files could be Corrupted and Tmpgenc Has Problems encodeing Corrupted files..Downloaded Movies Have this Problem Quite often...



Question - TE25 - no audio after encoding No.32005
shlomic_thailand  2002-12-16 22:06:42 ( ID:his46kxqxn. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

i have a movie (Legally Blonde ) which is Divx and the audio is in Mpeg layer 3.

after encoding it to VCD/MPG-1 i don't have audio.
1.system is au + video
2.tried every settings including audio engine for Layer|| and Layer |||
(lame and toolame )

any suggestions.



minion  2002-12-16 22:09:34 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Extract the audio to a WAV file with Virtual Dub and use the wav file as the audio source...



Question - TE25 - Best quality on SVCD No.32000
john  2002-12-16 17:58:10 ( ID:swd//k5my9f )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

What settings should I use to get the very best quality on SVCD from a DVD source.
I tried using the DVD setting and burning it as an SVCD using NERO, it played on my standalone DVD player but the sound broke up. Picture quality was good though.
I am also very unsure as to what difference the 'motion estimate' and VBR,CQ etc make. I just use the standard defaults.
Any help would be very much appreciated.


replic  2002-12-17 00:38:51 ( ID:hztmmyhjehm )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

+ 2passes VBR (bitrate must be > 1900 to have good quality),
+ Dc component precision : 10 bit.
+ Hightest quality.

this can take some time with these setting but more optimised to avoid
pixate and anoying effect > 20hours.

if your standalone player accept try to encode to xsvcd (same resolution of dvd instead of svcd). It's incredible!


minion  2002-12-17 10:32:49 ( ID:w8yn5mktf8w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

The reason Why the Audio Cut out is Besause the Bitrate is Much too high for your Player to Handle..If you are going to Make a XSVCD there are 2 ways of doing it , useing Higher Bitrates and resolutions and Just useing Higher Bitrates...I would sudgest Makeing Just ones with Higher Bitrates but if you are going to use Higher resolutions then Use the resolution of "704+480" NOT "720+480", and Mosyt Players that will Play XSVCD"s will not play with Bitrates Higher than 5000kbs without the Audio cutting out and the Video slowing down from time to time..But I actually get Much better results Useing the Standard SVCD Resolution of 480+480 and a Max bitrate of 4500kbs and a Minimum of 1750kbs, and Useing the CQ method will Give you just as good results as the 2 pass method with Clean Source files....


B_Racer  2002-12-17 10:35:55 ( ID:gxmkoa4dlnj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

> 2passes VBR (bitrate must be > 1900 to have good quality)

2pass is OK, but 1900 kbps as AVG for DVD-Source? That's definatly not necessary.

> Dc component precision : 10 bit.

Like we germans say: Unfug (nonsense)!
10 Bit DC is for High Bitrates, not for SVCD. You can use it for DVD or XSVCD, but not for SVCD.

> Hightest quality

That's only for interlaced Video. If you use this for progressive DVD-Source, you can pull down Quality (Motion Search Errors may occure).

> try to encode to xsvcd

This will need much higher Bitrates.



ASHY  2002-12-17 18:25:16 ( ID:n3gjkhi6dvc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

It is now generally accepted on this board on other encoding boards that in most cases the 'Constant quality(CQ)' method will give superior results to the 2pass method (yes honestly).
Only in certain odd cases will the 2 pass method be better.

Try it yourself and you will see what I mean.

Encode 2 test samples with exactly the same minimum and maximum bitrates, one using 2pass VBR and one (CQ).

You should find the (CQ) method produces a better picture (i.e less macroblocks) and a better file size.

ASHY



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