I would like to use TMPGEnc and I am using MSP6.5 and a Rapter card from Canopus. What file type should I build to loose NO quaility. Please note I have used Type 1 DV files but too much detail was lost in rendering the avi file and then encoding again using TMPGEnc to build the MPEG2 file.

are u capturing? if so use these setttings:

NO RECOMPRESSION
YU12
320*240
25/30fps
cd quality wav audio

this will take alot of hdd space but the quality is worth it, DVD/near dvd quality.

Then encode in TMPGENC.

Techno

Trying to convert my DV movies from my Canon MV3i MC to VCD's for playback on my DVD player. Tried TMPGEnc and got fantastic picture quality results, however, the sound was extremely 'tinny' with a constant whistle noise in the background. Tried playing with some of the options, but this does not seem to help. Can anyone out there help. It would be most appreciated.

make sure the audio is 44100hz and 224 bitrate :)

Techno

Thanks Techno, but, the settings are as you have suggested!

These are already set. Thanks.

>make sure the audio is 44100hz and 224 bitrate :)
>
>Techno

These are already set. Thanks.

>make sure the audio is 44100hz and 224 bitrate :)
>
>Techno

to get better sound quality you should use toolame. It is a sound encoder for mpeg that can be used along with tmpgenc.

Vist www.vcdhelp.com to find out about download of this programme and how to set up tmpgenc to use it.

take care

Paul

or u can encode the audio last. use something like sonic foundry to besweet or wavelab. Then encode with the video

Techno

What is the original samplerate of your audio.
The samplerate converter of TMPG isn't too good and gives many probs like this.
My advice would be to run the audio through Virtualdub and change the samplerate first, but make sure you tick the high quality box.

ASHY

personally, wavelab seems good, although that is my opinion

Techno

Thanks all, I will try the above.

Tried most of the above....little success!

Got toolame to work in TMPGEnc but the sound is no better. (bearing in mind, when playing it in original .avi format the sound is ok). Besweet doesn't seem to work in XP (even through command line), and the same goes for avi2mpg1.exe. Virtual dub doesn't accept avi. files! (by this point I'm pulling my hair out). An finally where can I find wavelab (no mention of it in www.vcdhelp.com)!?

Can you still help me?

I am trying to encode an avi file that was generated from Premiere6. Its 1hr 17 min long.

TMPGEnc starts encoding ok but at 12mins the picture goes black. The resultant mpeg file has picture and audio upto 12mins but then picture is black but audio is ok to end.

Anynody have any idead what is happing here?

what is the avi? DIVX v5?

Techno

Its justplain DV avi. I think itis encoded with MS Dv codec or Pinnacle DV codec.

hmmm, have u tried encoding using a different codec?

Have u tried to increase the directshow filters and the avi vfw and avi opendml in the environment settings?

Techno

I have tried upping the priorities in Env settings. It makes the picture go green!

I am not sure why its ok for 12 mins and then causes problem.

How do I use different codecs? Where do I get them?

I have also tried other DV footage. This one also goes black at about 12:40mins.

Is this time 12:40mins some magical figure past which TMPGenc cannot handle?

The program com up witvh this ven i try to convert a MOV
I have the tool from vcdhejp.com
All is okay until i press "start"
then it says "Illegal floating decimal point calculation order."

Whay ???
I have a Duron 750MHz 3*128MbRam

Morten Rick

tick/untick all the check boxes in the quantize matrix settings and increase the directshow filter to a higher priorty.

Techno

Try this:
Option -> Environmental setting: Under the "CPU" tab, remove the "Enable SSE" check.
Press the "Setting" button, Under the "Quantize matrix" tab, remove the "Use floating point DCT" check.

Hey

It diten help.....
"Under the "CPU" tab, remove the "Enable SSE" check" I can not en/disabel it.
It is disablet and gray. And the DCT thing wase disabled it ditent help.

Morten

I'm trying to make an mpeg-1 from one big vob file (4.97gb), and it loads up fine. Then I go to preview, the time, and video stop at around 49 min, but I know that there is 117 min to the vob file, because I played it in PowerDVD XP.

Please Help
Pete

do not use TMPGENC to convert vob's!!! bad move/idea I am afraid to say.

Techno

Hmm If you use the correct guides out there on the net, there should be no problem converting a vob file with Tmpgenc to a VCD or SVCD or whatever.

I find that purplemans guides are verry nice and easy (can be found under links on http://doom9.com)

The best way is to extract audio from vob file with msgraph, then running the vob file in dvd2avi and making a project file, load the project file and wav file into tmpgenc and convert. Works fine, nice and easy. Maby not the superbest quality but verry good and easy.

Regards Dennis

I think what techno is trying to say and my advice would be the same, DON'T encode directly from VOBS.
It is unecessary and will only increase the encoding time to 3x or 4x of that which it would take using the DVD2AVI method and it's unlikely you will any quality as the MPEG2 filters of DVD2AVI seem pretty good.

ASHY

Yes ASHY, that is what I meant, thanks for clearing it up! :)

Techno

To revert back to the original idea behind this BBS requires the removal of Posts by certain immature persons, of little knowledge, who persistently give incorrect advice to persons seeking genuine help with TMPGEnc. The end result of which is utter confusion for the user.

Please appoint at least one Moderator who can sort out the men from the boys, and hopefully prevent this BBS from becoming a World-wide Web of doom.

Hope you don't mean me Willyiam.

ASHY

As a supplier of good sound advice, yes.
As a Moderator, yes.

hope u don't mean me either, I am only doing me job.

Techno

If the cap fits......

what are u trying to say, u r better than me? or something, not that I am saying I am?

Your reply proves the need for Moderator's.

Dont tease him too much ... his ego might explode and Edinburgh is a too fine City to waste :-D
Another option is to mail improper behavior to the approviate people ... i've done that when someone(guess)was offering help to crack TMPGenc here. The threads were removed. Some people would be astonished how much traces of themselves they leave...how about mailing the Principal of his school?

excuse me, I don't waste my time here like u do. I HELP PEOPLE, seems like u don't, so grow up before I REALLY get a moderator on u

Techno does a good job at helping people out. perhaps instead of a moderator, you could request that the tmpgenc staff help people out. Without people like techno, many questions might not ever be answered...

hey william guess what there are moderators,just try swearing or something like offering advice on crack codes,and you will get a very nasty e-mail from them..
and for advice ,it is easy to critisize others when you are sitting on the side lines picking yer nose and NOT offering any help at all...so go back to your crib and whine to those who care...Ashy & Techno offer some of the best and competent advice in this forum.......

Thanks sherlock, I really appreciate ur support and same with riz... I am sure ashy appreciated it to! THANKS!!!!!!!!!

Techno

I have found the support from Techno to be very relevant...The problem is that when you purchase the plus version you really can get no help other than on this BBS...and that is erratic at best..This is a good product but it seems to have a flaw that almost every other post on here speaks about...Losing video...That being said if there were moderators here they would pick up on that thread and themn maybe someone would address it for the masses...I cannot tell you how many hours I have wasted trying to get this program to work only to leave frustrated and give up until someone responds to my plea for help...and that person is usually Techno...So for that Thank you Techno.

>hey william guess what there are moderators,just try swearing or something like offering advice on crack codes,and you will get a very nasty e-mail from them..

Well well. Guess who arranged for such an e-mail to be sent to you! That's right my friend, ME!

Ashy is a young man who knows what he is talking about. More users should take his advice rather than a quick fix as offered by some.

well that prooves it you are an as*h*le.....

Call me names if it makes you feel better, but remember this. By offering ŤracksEyou stop the supply of funds that are needed for the
future development of TMPGEnc.

you obviously weren"t the one,cuz I didn"t offer a crack for "tmpgenc" I don"t know one..but what I did offer I got from THIS bbs...so don"t say you are what you aren"t..and this site isn"t for critism it is for poeple get get help for problems,so lets call a truce and do what this site is for....ok...

Thanks people for ur support for me, I greatly appreciate it.

This forum is for support for using TMPGENC, not for insults so why don't u people grow up and act like ur age, not ur shoe size.

GROW UP, u act like immature brats.

>Ashy is a young man who knows what he is talking about. More users should take his advice rather than a quick fix as offered by some.

Exactly right. I'm tired of some peoples attitude to not discuss things they claim and take every reply after their own as an personal insult.

There is a vast army of TMPGEnc users who have no difficulty whatsoever in achieving good results from this fine programme without any problems at all.

I would point new or unsure users to http://www.vcdhelp.com where they can read the basics of virtually any video format.
Armed with this knowledge they should be able to avoid most of the pitfalls they encounter.

Try one of the many simple guides. Sefy Levi has written several good guides for the beginner to the more advanced.

Before you ask a question search the pages of this BBS for an answer.
Most questions are duplicated several times. And do read the FAQ page.

Look for a detailed response to your question as this tends to indicate a knowledgeable person has replied. Such as Ashy.

DonÃÕ expect TMPGEnc to do something it was not designed for.
Input the wrong format and it will complain.

Do make a test encode of about one minute. Burn it to an erasable disc and view it on your TV via your DVD player. Ignore the quality you see on your PC Monitor because itÃÔ not the same as you get from a TV. The technically minded will know exactly what I mean by this statement.

Good luck to you all.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE MATTER ... BUT I THINK THIS LAST OF WILLYIAM IS A WISE STATE OF MIND FOR WHO IS GETTING CLOSER TO ENCODING IN GENERAL .
AND VCDHELP IS A REALLY WELL ORGANIZED SITE ACROSS THE UNIVERSE OF VIDEO PROBLEMS.
IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT EVERYBODY ENGAGED IN THE DISCUSSION GOT A PROGRESSIVE (NON-INTERLACED) MISUNDERSTANDIG ??

marco - italy

Thanks for that Willyiam.

ASHY

Credit given where credit is due, my friend.

Publication of the long awaited Users Manual later this month will
hopefully discourage certain people from offering incorrect advice to
inexperienced users seeking help.

Until such times as the Manual is published, please continue to
correct the stupidity of certain individuals.

hi there ashy have been looking thru forums on articles re cinemascope aspect ratio and found your solution

i have a question having tried to do this it would appear that all i am doing is cropping the image

for example i have a demo trtailer i am working with for speed of testing which is 640x288 so have entered that under mpeg in aspectratio and clicked calculate giving me figures of 640 x 266

so in tmpgenc wizard have selected pal source and selected file with ar 1:1
gone to clip frame and arrange selected center (custom) and enetered fig of 640 at whcih point i notice it has cropped the picture

surely this is not what we want

what please am i doing wrong

Newbie questions here - Is there anykind of a tutorial or instruction manual that I can access that can run me through an explanation of how to use TMPGenc? I've actually used the software once to convert an AVI file to MPEG2 to create a dvd readable on ordinary commercial DVD playere. It worked, but I have to admit I was just lucky. I didn't change any of the default settings but there appear to be a lot of things that can be tweeked. I'm looking to finalize a DVD project that I hope to be able to give out to 30 sets of parents and want it to be the best quality I can make it (its our 8th grade multimedia slide show combining several different AVI files of varying lengths of b/w 6 - 35 minutes). Thanks in advance

http://www.pegasys-inc.com/e_faq.html

I have a high quality widescreen dixv file that I would like to encode as mpeg2 to make an SVCD but the file is encoded at 640x352 @ 23.976fps and every resolution I have tried has "cut-off" the widescreen. Anybody know what resolution would be best for this situation and hopefully let me keep the widescreen, thanks in advance for any help

try 640*480 and 16:9 aspect ratio.

Techno

If you want to watch (S)VCD on your standard TV and want to keep the aspect ratio with the upper and lower black band, here's the solution:

In "Settings" - "Advanced" Tab - "Video arrange Method:", choose Full screen (keep aspect ratio)

I am having some trouble with the aspect ratio in TMPGenc. I am attempting to make backups of some of the dvds that I have, but they are in wierd aspect ratios (1.85:1 or 2.35:1). TMPGenc only seems to have options for fullscreen and 16:9 widescreen. Is there any way around this, as the encoded videos are squished together when I use the widescreen setting?

Thanks allot.
Joe

TMPGENC is not a good idea to "backup" DVD's

Techno

What do you mean weird 1.85:1 is 16:9 widescreen. 2.35:1 is cinemascope and TMPGenc doesn't directly support this aspect ratio, but there is a setting to compensate for this so you can set your own aspect ratio.
Download this little proggy first.
http://www.chizzil.com/downloads/aspectratio.zip

In TMPG choose your source aspect ratio as 1:1 (VGA)then tick the box which says 'clip frame' then double click it.
Click arrange setting and find a suitable point in your movie to work with.
Under arrange method click the drop down menu and choose 'Center (custom size)'

If you are creating a VCD then the box on the left should be 352 (width)then using the aspect ratio calculator calculate the size of height.
For example with an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 this would be a height of 144.
Once your happy with the size click OK and encode as normal.
While your at it it would be a good idea to clip out the black borders as this will decrease the file size.
Hope it helps.

ASHY

nice 1 ash

Techno

thanks a lot for the advice, I had many problems with the aspest ratio but now all is well.


T.H.

Hallo, ich wollte eine Super VCD Film in Video CD Format umwandeln das klappt aber nit so, die Film Spur macht er aber bei der Ton Spur sagt er can not open... usw. !!! Ich habe das Tsunami-Filter Pack drauf und alles andere klappt auch nur gibt es da nicht eine einfache L Ôung ??? Bitte helft mir !!!
Habe Version 2.53

MfG Ranger

I know TMPGenc got the progress bar and such, but it would be nice to show the frame/sec encoding rate, so we have an idea of the speed it is encoding. It would also be a good benchmark for various system settings.

Thank you.

Jay

I am using the latest 2.53 to encode a MPEG-2 720x480 VBR into SVCD format using the ntsc svcd profile settings. The result is than burn in Nero and playback on a Sumsung DVD/SVCD player. The video jerk, hold, and mess-up.

I take a look at the bit rate analysis and found that for most part, my bit rate was under the 2.52mbs as the SVCD profile in TMPEGenc, but occationally, the bit rate will go as high as 9mbs, and every few seconds, a 3mbs or higher will pop-up, which cause the jerk and mess-up of the video on the TV.

I have tried several settings for 8 hours, and found that the work around is to modify the ntsc profile to CQ_VBR with maximum to 2400mbs and minimum to around 1000mbs. Now the video in the SVCD player play smooth. From bit rate analysis, it still show occational bit rate higher than 2.6mbs (svcd maximum allowed bit rate) but the rate does not go over 4mbs and only occationally, so jerking and mess-up may occur, but only slightly and one wont notice it if not paying attention too closely.

Is it possible to make TMPEGenc to encode CBR in a stricter manner by not going over too much?

Is it possible to make TMPEGenc to encode CQ_VBR and VBR so the bit rate will stay within the max and min bit rate?

Thank you.


Tou

You say it peaks at at 9mb/s. This seems strange as at most at CBR there should only be a 500 kbs variance and even though this peak is higher your DVD player should handle it.
Your jerking and if I'm correct your blocky display problems are more probably due to the disks you use and the way you are burning.
Never burn above a speed of 4x or this WILL give severe playback problems in most if not all DVD players and even then burning slower will give better playback.
If you burn at high speed then as you have noticed when there are high bitrate spikes your player is having trouble reading it.
This is due to the fact that your player is having trouble reading this information as it needs to be supplied quickly by the disk, but due to errors being introduced by high encoding speeds the information isn't correctly being read from the disk. This doesn't matter as much with lower bitrates as the information is written and read slower from the disk thus producing less errors.
This doesn't seem to happen with Windows software decoders probably because software decoders don't have the limitations of hardware decoders.
If it plays back ok in a software player on windows then it is probably not your MPEG, reduce the speed of your burn and try again.

ASHY

Thanks for the suggestion to lower the burning speed fo the cd-rw drive. I will give it a try.

As for the 500kbs variance, I am not sure if it's true, because I do have 9mbs, 7mbs, 5mbs, 4mbs, and lots of 3mbs on the bit rate analysis of SVCD result.

Jay

What program do you use for examining the bitrate?

ASHY

Thanks for the suggestion to lower the burning speed fo the cd-rw drive. I will give it a try.

As for the 500kbs variance, I am not sure if it's true, because I do have 9mbs, 7mbs, 5mbs, 4mbs, and lots of 3mbs on the bit rate analysis of SVCD result.

Jay

For quick information, I check with PowerDVD when turning the information "ON" so I can see the bitrate and the video scene at the same time. I also use "bitrateview" program for full analysis.

Thank you.

Jay