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When I play back my authored DVD-R on a domestic DVD player I encounter lots of stutters and jumps.
This seems to be a common problem as I have discovered from reading through this and other forums.
When the stuttering occurs the DVD player (Yamaha DVD-S520) can be heard to make unhealthy sounding noises which is quite unnerving. This does not happen on other DVD's, e.g. Hollywood type DVD's & other DVD-R's.
I created a second DVD and reduced the Max bitrate (2-pass VBR). Under 'Verify' in ReelDVD (3.0.3) it now reports the following:
Info === Verification 04-t ===
Info -- Total bitrate --
Info Main video bitrate = 7150000, data = "04"
Info Audio stream ID = 1, bitrate = 224000, type = AC-3, data = "04_1"
Info Sum of audio bitrate = 224000.
Info Total bitrate = 7374000 [ audio + main video ]
Info === Finish.[Verification] ===
The problem persists. I don't believe that it is a bit rate problem so what could be causing the trouble?
Sonic CinePlayer plays both the hard disk and DVD versions of the project OK on the computer.
In total I have 110 minutes of Video / Audio. Image Encoding Rate in ReelDVD is set to 7.0 Mbps. There is only one audio stream per track. There are no subtitles.
I don't believe it is a field order problem because the picture quality looks excellent in the parts where it does not stutter.
The following is a complete listing of the TMPGEnc parameters used
(TMPGEnc-2.521.58.169-Plus-EN-Installer-DL.exe):
Set the Stream type to ES (video-only) [Audio processed by ReelDVD into Dolby 224kbps].
VIDEO
Stream type: MPEG-2 Video
Size: 720 x 576
Aspect ratio: 4:3 Display
Frame rate: 25 fps
Setting -> 25 / 1 = 25
Rate control mode: 2-pass VBR(VBR)
Setting -> Average bitrate: 5150
Maximum bitrate: 7150
Minimum bitrate: 2050
Max pass: 2 pass
Enable padding not to be lower than minimum bit rate = Disabled
P picture spoilage: 0
B picture spoilage: 0
VBV buffer size: 224
Profile & Level: Main Profile & Main Level (MP@ML)
Video format: PAL
Encode mode: Interlace
YUV format: 4:2:0
DC component precision: 10 bits
Motion search precision: Highest quality (very slow)
ADVANCED
Video source type: Interlace
Field order: Top field first (field A)
Source Aspect ration: 4:2 625 line (PAL)
Video arrange Method: Full screen
No filter settings
GOP STRUCTURE
IBPBPBPBP
Number of I picture in GOP: 1
Number of P picture in GOP: 4
Number of B picture in GOP: 1
Output interval of sequence header: 1
MAX number of frames in GOP: 15
Output bitstream for edit (Closed GOP): Enabled
Detect Scene change: Enabled
Force picture type setting: Disabled
QUANTIZE MATRIX
Default
Output YUV data as Basic YCbCr not CCIR601: Disabled
Use floating point DCT (While using SSE, always ON): Enabled
No motion search for still picture part by half pixel: Disabled
Soften block noise: Disabled
First I would slow the burn speed down. If that doesn't work I would try different disks. Even though Verbatim are decent disks it doesn't mean your player will be compatible with them.
I would also try out the DVD+R format to see if it's a compatibity problem with the disks.
Which software are you using to author and burn the disk?
I would definitely use a different burning program.
Roxio (Easy CD Creator 5) is NOT known for being the best burning program and don't think it's too good for DVD either. I don't even think it will burn the ISO in the right UDF format.
I would try Nero.
You would be better just burning the authored files directly with NERO's 'DVD-video' mode rather than creating an image first with ReelDVD.
If that doesn't work then try TMPG DVDauthor to author your DVD.
I downloaded a demo version of Nero 6.303 and burnt a DVD-R in DVD-video mode. I also re-flashed the Sony DRX-500UL with the latest firmware (500A_20h) before hand.
Unfortunately it made no difference :-(
So I guess it's either poor media and / or the encoded MPEG file being at fault.
Incidentally I spotted this URL: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?threadid=61142
which suggests using the DVD-UDF/ISO option in Nero to burn a video DVD (Step 5: DVDR Burning). This mode also has the option to select "Force DVD-Video Compatability Mode (Required for XBox)". I haven't tried it yet.
That advice used to be for the earlier buggy versions of NERO that used to burn in the wrong UDF mode.
That has all been taken care of now. The XBOX compatibility mode is simply to make sure the DVD is burned as a DVD-video.
The DVD-video mode will automatically burn for XBOX compatibility and will burn the DVD in the most compatible UDF mode.
I finally tracked down the source of the problem and it did turn out to be the media, although there is a slight twist to the story.
What baffled me is how the same media from the same stock that I had used on a previous project without problem suddenly started causing the stuttering and jumping.
The evidence did point towards the media but the only difference that I could see between the two projects was the parameters used in the MPEG-2 encoding.
Late Friday I created another test disc that contained a selection of encoded files with different MPEG values, mainly GOP related.
When I played the disc it still stuttered on each of the sections. This finally convinced me that the problem was not MPEG related.
Saturday morning I decided to watch my new test DVD again. This time the disc played perfectly!
It was then that I realised what the difference had been all along. Heat!! The DVD player and Amp had been switched off overnight and in the morning they were cold.
In the last project I had only played the DVD's when the system was cold.
When the amp is left on all day, like it usually is, the heat rises making the DVD player on top of the amp hot. The DVD player also generates a lot of heat when it is switched on but that is a separate cause for concern.
After 5 minutes of playing the heat built up and the same problem appeared.
The DVD-R's I had been using were the crazy looking Verbatim (Reorder 43207) which have the printable area nearly all the way into the centre of the disc.
Towards the hub of the disc, in the printable area, the name 'Verbatim' and 'DVD-R 2x' is etched in. I think this may cause the disc to run in an eccentric manner or alter the aerodynamics of the disc. It would appear that heat exasperates the condition.
The effect is similar to sticking Neato CD labels on a DVD. Some players, mine included, have trouble playing afterwards because the disc is imbalanced and / or the aerodynamics change.
There is also another version of these Verbatim discs with a slightly different reorder number that doesn't have the printable area going nearly all the way into the centre. The manufacturer ID is the same MCC 00RG200.
I tried one of these discs and it stuttered as well, but nowhere as badly as its sibling.
I also tried three other brand of discs, those with Manufacturer ID's TYG01, RITEKG04 & PRODISCG01. They all played perfectly, even when the system was hot.
Next step is to see how each play when they are printed on. Then it's time to move the DVD player :-)
I'm using a file from DVD+ disc that has already been converted from SVCD to DVD standard.
Using TMP Author I can convert the above to an mpg file, edit, view, create chapters etc but I can't output it as It says the the resolution is non-DVD Standard (480 x 576). Is there a way of altering this res info to say 352x576? I've tried 'DVD patcher' but them TMP Author wouldn't read it at all!
I've been looking for a conversion program for quite a while, and then came across TMPGEnc. I downloaded the free version and i love it. I've been using it for about 3 months without a problem. Now I have problems. When i try to cut my converted avi, it does the first half of the movie without a hitch. Problem is, when i do the second half, it goes through all the processes of cutting, but when i go to the folder where i saved it, it comes up as just a "file". It says the file size, which is about the size it should be, but that's all. I'm really at a loss here because it worked for me before. I've tried un-installing it and re-installing, and no luck.
I don't know what to do, as I always do the EXACT same way as i do all my other files that i convert. I've tried it with 5-6 different files and always the same result.....just the first half.
I was wondering how large MPEG-2 files are in terms of file size? And how many hours it took you to convert a 1 hour movie? How about a half hour movie?
If you're using a normal DVD template, the video size is set to 720x576 (I think). If I had a downloaded movie whose size is 712x400 or even 640x360. They're both widescreen movies where the black bars have been removed. Since the resolution is smaller, won't TMPGEnc have to resize it to 720x576 under 16:9 keep full aspect ratio? Won't the video lose some quality due to the resizing? :(
Yes any time you Resize an Image so the Resolution is Larger you Loose some Quality, I personally will Not Make a standard Full D1 DVD useing Files any smaller than about 576+360 ,Smaller resolution files I usually Put on DVD useing the Half D1 DVD standard or the Sif DVD standard....
Hi. I know that when I convert to MPEG using the "Output to MPEG" feature, there is a checkbox I can check to shut down after the conversion is complete. But does it shuts down only TMPGEnc or both the program and the computer? Because I have a feeling my computer was on all night and I wanted it to shut down plus I checked the option. :(
Hi, I have a poroblem
I have a DivX movie which is 608*320 pixels.
My wish is to decode it from DivX to mpge, and that what i do.
But when I open the mpeg file, I see that Top and Bottom bars (black ones...)
are missing in mpeg.
This is a serious problem because the movie in mpeg is streched vertically...
What can I do to avoid the cut of the 2 black bars ?
I can not help you untill you tell us what you are encodeing to, VCD?? SVCD?? DVD?? Pal?? NTSC?? ...If you happen to be encodeing this File for Full D1 NTSC DVD then there will have to be some Black Bars on the Top and Bottom to keep the Correct aspect ratio and to Not distort the Images proportions....If this is what you are doing then go to "settings" to "Advanced" to "Video Arrange Method" and set it to "Center Custom Size" then underneath that set the resolution to 704+384...This should Displat the Video in the exact same propertions as the Original but centered within the Standard Resolution of 720+480 ,If you try to get rid of the Borders the image will be stretched Top to Bottom....Cheers
Actually I want to convert it to dvdr rather than vcd. which format in the TMPGEncPlus wizard to use for this 592x320 (1.85:1) [=37:20] file? DVD/PAL? or DVD/PAL(16:9)? TIA!
hi,
i have a question regarding which is the best format to convert an xvid 592x320 (1.85:1) [=37:20] into using TMPGEncPlus for watching on dvd player? vcd? svcd? anybody know? also what aspect ratio and video arrange method to use? thanks!
Hi, For that Files it would look better as a SVCD ...Usually the "Fullscreen Keep aspect ratio" setting works best if it doesn"t look right to you can can adjust it so it looks the way you want useing the "Clip frame" settings....
I AM HAVING AUDIO PROBLEMS WITH MY DVD AUTHORING PROGRAM WHICH I RECENTLY PURCHASED FOR $68. I HAVE WONDERFUL CLEAR SOUND BEFORE AUTHORING THE FILE SO AS TO MAKE IT READY TO BURN TO A DVD. AFTER AUTHORING AND BEFORE BURNING THE A DVD RECORDABLE, THE SOUND SOUNDS LIKE IT IS COMEING FROM A BARRELL. IT SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE A REVERBERATION GENERATOR GETS TURNED ON WHEN NONE EXISTS. HAVE YOU ANY ANSWER TO MY PROBLEM AS I GET GOOD RESULTS AS FAR AS THE PICTURE QUALITY AND VOB FILES ARE CONCERNED. THE AUTHORING PROGRAM ALWAYS MAKES A WAVE GENERATED SOUND TRACK. MY INPUT IS CD PLAYER OR LINE IN, BOTH GIVE RESULT STATED ABOVE.
TMPGEnc (version 2.53.35.130) suddenly will not run on my Win2000 computer. It opens, but when I try to load a file it just hangs up. It will accept a frame serve from virtualdubmod and display an image of the file to be converted, but non frame served files never get to that state...
All the files I am trying to open have previously opened, and they play fine in WMP.
I'm really not sure where to start with this problem. I suspect there may be a problem in the registry perhaps because if I "install" a newer version of TMPGEnc it knows which file I had tried to open in the earler version and hangs in exactly the same manner.
How do you "uninstall" TMPGEnc and clean out the registry entries?
I will sincerely appreciate any help anyone might offer to me!
In the meantime I did discover my problem. I'd forgotton that several days earlier I had tried to update Windows media player. After some checking I discovered that the update had not succeeded. Strangely WMP would still operate but the update must have messed up the codecs on my machine somehow. In any case I redid the update to WMP 9 and now everything works again
Hello! I tried converting a 640x480 video file to MPG and then burn it to disc using Nero's VCD function (without reincoding). I plopped the VCD into the DVD player and it works all fine and well except that the bottom and top parts of the file are cut off (there are subtitles at the bottom and I can only see half of them). I made the MPG file using all of the default settings so I was wondering what I can do to make the file burn at the right ratio?
I assume it has something do with MPEG Settings -> Advanced -> Video Arrange Method.