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It's very difficult to pinpoint this problem, but I wanted to post this in case anyone else finds it so they know they're not alone.
I am making MPEG-2 files for DVD-PAL with mp2 audio.
I've never had any problem with a file encoded as a CBR but about 1 in 3 that I have tried to encode as VBRs produce a file which plays perfectly on the PC using any media player I choose and I can author a DVD and burn it without a problem. The resultant DVD will play in PowerDVD or WinDVD without a problem. But playing the DVD in a DVD player (I tried several) and the video will freeze occasionally, always at the same points, while the audio continues. The video then jumps to the correct frame after a second or 2.
This is no longer a problem for me because I've given up encoding as VBRs now.
TMPGEnc does not honour it's maximum bitrate setting in VBR and will often produce peak bitrates of 1000 bps more than you specify. So if you are encoding streams with a maximum around 9000, there may be sections that are 10000+ and this will cause standalone player to choke.
You should set the min to 2000 and the max to 8000, under or over that and you are risking choking your player.
I have seen this problem fixed also by dropping the VBV buffer down.
I have used DivX 2.2 and TMPENGenc to assist me encoding a DVD film into VCD using Nero. Nero (version 5.5) shows the disc was burnt sucessfully. When play in Window Media Player version 8 it wont play. A message saying file currently on the CD is CDI , EXT, MPEGAV, SEGMENT, VCD. I opened the VCD folder which revealed non exe files. Oddly enough it will play in Win DVD but not on its own in my DVD rom drive or in WMPLayer.
Have I not done something wrong, do I need some file association to get it work? any advice is mosst welcome
I have a similar problem using WinME (Win95 is fine) and I have yet to get to the bottom of it. What appears to be happening with Windows 98 and later is that Windows detects that the CD is a VCD and locks the files somehow so that they can only be read as a video stream. Media player tries to read the files and so fails, DVD players read the video stream.
It may, however, be something to do with the CD drivers; I gave up trying to solve this a while ago because there's nothing on the www or the Microsoft knowledge base.
Thanks Bob for taking time out to reply, I have solved it! I knew it would play on a DVD software player like PowerDVD or WinDVD but I couldnot distribute these software ( they were big in size) to friends if they wanted to watch my movie. While browsing a magazine which had a cover VCD I read the instructions which basically said if WMP wont play the VCD do the following:
open the drive which has the VCD in it, double click on it, select MPEGAV folder. Left click on this folder, right click on MPEGAV and select open.
The file AVSEQo1.Dat appears, left click it, right click it choose OPEN WITH,
select WINDOWS MEDIA PROGRAM from the list of programs shown. Thats it, you will need to go through this each time you want to watch vcd on Wmp, the image is on the sentre of the screen measures about four inches by 3 inches but the resolution is very clear and there is no delay in speech or motion. I can tell you I was mighty please when it worked.
Of course I will use WinDVD which came with Nero but for all my friends who dont have DVDsoftware player I have written out the 'structions for them to follow. I hope this helps Bob
Just distribute the 'Mediaplayer classic' .EXE with your VCD's or Videolan player.
They can be run directly from the .EXE and will play almost ALL file types.
To play VCD/SVCD in Mediaplayer classic simply select File>Open CDrom and then just select the drive that contains the disk you want to play.
To Open VCD with VIdeolan player click File>open disk then select VCD.
Now I have a new camera (Panasonic DGVX100A)that can shoot in real progressive 25p PAL MiniDV.
I convert in DVD PAL using the your wizard but the result is a little bit jerky video (on vertical lines like "strobo" effect) in the left-right pan of the camera shoots.
How I can avoid this?
Is there a sw that reproduce the 2:2 pulldown of telecine? (Each frame splitted in two field?)
You say you are experiencing interlace lines even though your camera captures to true progressive?
It doesn't sound like your camera is capturing to true progressive at all otherwise you wouldn't be experiencing this effect.
What you are really saying is that the camera actually captures the fields in the same frame hence the 2:2 pulldown. This is not true progressive, however when encoding you should be able to treat it as progressive.
Don't encode to interlaced, encode to progressive frames. The output will be better anyway.
Your DVD player will take care of the interlacing. I always encode PAL streams to progressive frames.
Just ensure you have the field order correct, in fact you should be able to set the input as progressive also and not even bother about the field order.
The camera is the best now, in indipendent production. Some people shoot progressive, edit and mixdown in progressive and then digitally blow up in film 16mm or 35mm (a RGB+y 4 lasers print each frame), winning some Film Festivals.
It is a real bundle!!!!
The question is: how I recognize the exact field order? The wizard tell me "interlaced field order B", but the camera makes a complete frame 720x576 25 times each second without field A or field B.
I' don't know if the DVout file is interlaced or progressive. Probably video out is interlaced but the DV file is progressive. This the reason for the film blow up capabilities.
Do you know in wich way can I avoid the "strobo" effect (left and right pan) in the final mpeg2 file?
My dvd player ( a strong Sony 735d) does'not correct the defect. Only using plasma displays with "100hz or progressive function", the effect disappear.
I would like to make the right shoot in order to give the best quality in progressive and in interlaced.
For sure the image quality of progressive is the best I've never seen. It is comparable to film.
I've tried to solve it creating an AVI (RGB uncompressed, very big file 20Gb) with Motion Blur in Virtualdub, but it makes "trails" (wakes) in the vertical objects.
Do you know any sw that recreate the 2:2 pulldown without artefacts?
However it seems to also indicate that as long as the intended output is progressive there should be no problem.
It seems you are not actually encoding to progressive, but are attempting to encode to interlaced from progressive material.
It seems TMPG is detecting the material as interlaced which in a sense is true as the camera splits the frame into 2 fields but both fields are in the same frame, so for all intents and purposes the file can be treated as progressive. Therefore ignore what TMPG detects and set the input manually to 'Non-interlace' you can then ignore the field order issue.
My advice is to make sure you are indeed encoding to progressive frames.
When using the wizard set the input to 'Non interlace' not 'Interlace' then ensure that the output is set to 'Non-Interlace' also.
You can do this by clicking the 'Expert' button in the final Wizard window.
Under the 'Advanced' tab ensure the 'Encode mode' is set to 'Non-interlace'
I have some AVI files and when trying to encode for VCD, comes up with not supported message and seems to be related to compressed audio
Can someone advise on how to proceed? Thanks
I wanted to know how to create a DVD with biligual Audio file. I demux my TS-Linux File in 1 MP2 file Vidio and 2 oder 3 WAV Files but I canA't import 2 oder 3 different audio files. Did you have an answer for me how to do that.
I've searched through the archive for people's comparisons between motion estimate search, normal and high quality motion search precisions.
I just accidentally encoded a vid using "motion estimate", normally using "high quality", but I noticed very good results and am comparing them with the same vid encoded with "high quality". The source is captured from VHS home movies, and I'm comparing scenese that actually have some nauseating camera motion.
My question is: does anyone have a definite opinion these days that one is better than the other? Is there a general consensus on what to use? I would love to use the faster precision if it got me the same or better, but am also kind of fanatical.
I don't need an explanation of what the various methods do, thanks.
I'll post my comparison results in, oh, a couple hours...
I read this tutorial on converting video files to MPEG-2 for DVD. They say that if the source AVI has 23.976 fps, then I should set the framerate as 23.976 fps (internally 29.97 fps) in TMPGEnc Plus and then set the Encode Mode to 3:2 Pulldown When Playback. Is there a reason for this? Because TMPGEnc's default DVD (NTSC) template has automatically set it at 29.97 fps. Just wondering the reason for this.
Yes there is, but the reason will take far too long to explain here. Try a search on google for 3:2 pulldown.
Basically pulldown makes a 23.976 fps MPEG into a 29.97 fps without changing the actual framerate by using flags within the MPEG to tell the DVD player to repeat certain frames or to be more exact certain fields.
Simply just altering the frame rate would cause all sorts of problems. Such as play back artifacts and even A/V desync.
I Encoded some of my children videos using the wizard option:
DVD->PAL->CBR Mpeg-1 Layer II Audio (mp2)
This gave me a single mpeg file in DVD format (Audio & Video inside).
Unfortunately #1 : my DVD player can not directly read mpeg files.
Unfortunately #2 : I donÃÕ have the source movies files.
Can I (How?) make from those mpeg files a compatible DVD disc?
MPEG1 layer2 or Mp2 as it is called is a valid audio format for DVD if your DVD is PAL. However most if not all NTSC DVD players will have no problem playing back Mp2 audio.
I read the question too quickly. I thought it said mpeg-1 video. My first posting was correct that you need to author with a program like TMPGEnc DVD Author.
I have dozens of AVI files i would like to burn onto a DVD.
I am very new with the whole process, and i'm unfamiliar with even the basics.
My avi's are 24 minutes long and 190 megs in size, 640x480 in dimensions.
When creating a VCD with a standard CD-R, i'm able to fit 3 episodes onto 1 cd.
How many episodes can i fit onto a DVD with near/better quality then that of a VCD?
All i know is that i have to encode the AVI into DVD format? I'm using TMPGenc to do this; however my files end up turning out to over a gig. When i decrease the bit rate, the lowest it will go is 500 mb.
Other then what i've listed above... i don't know what other steps are involved in the task that i'm trying to accomplish.
Any suggestions? help would be really appreciated thanks!
p.s i've searched all over google, forums, and faq's and i can't find any information that could help with my situation, since i am trying to burn multiple avi files instead of 1 huge one,
thanks again
If you are burning to DVD then you have almost 4.5 Gb to play with. A DVDR will take up to 4.37GB, so your 1GB file will fit quite comfortably.
The number of AVI's you will be able to fit will depend on the bitrate you choose, but if you use the wizard and just set the output for DVD you should be fine.
In addition to above.
It may be better if you were to number the AVI's in the order you wish to burn them like so...file001.avi...file002.avi...file003.avi and so on and then in TMPG goto Option>Enviromental setting>General and then put a check in the 'Open sequence files as a movie' box.
Then just load your first AVI and the rest will follow in sequence.
If you would rather have each movie as a seperate track on the DVD then you will have to encode each one individually.
Ohhh i figured my last question out too
sorry for the trouble
I'm not sure what i should do with the settings...
Rate Control Mode,
a good Bit rate that provides vcd quality, but isnt higher then it has to be..
DC component precision?
motion search precision?
There are usually 2 reasons why there may n ot be any audio in the ouput.
One is because the audio is AC3 and the other is because it is VBR mp3.
If it's the first then you need to install the AC3 ACM decompressor.
If it's the second then raising the priority of the 'Directshow file reader' to 2 usually solves it.
I've used VirtualDub and i've found out that the video is a VBR MP3.
For that, Ashy, you've suggested that i change the directshow file reader to 2.
I was looking around on an FAQ for how to go about doing this and on the TMPGENC FAQ it says...
"The file is probably Type-1 DV format. The format is not supported by TMPGEnc. Type-1format has different structure from AVI format. TMPGEnc can not read the format since TMPGEnc does not support DirectShow."
does this mean that i have to find another encoding program?
Open your avi file in VirtualDub. Go to the menu under "File" then click on "Save wav...". This will convert the vbr mp3 into a regular wav file that TMPGEnc can handle.
Now open TMPGEnc and open your avi file. Instead of using the audio from the avi file, use the wav file that you just made using VirtualDub.
So the two boxes on the bottom left of TMPGEnc should look something like:
Video Source: C:myFile.avi
Audio Source: C:myFile.wav
It is usually not advisable to convert VBR mp3 to a wav with Virtualdub as it will usually add some skew to the output file and therefore cause A/V desync.
TMPG will handle VBR mp3 just fine if you raise the priority of the Directshow file reader.
You can find it at Options>Enviromental settings>VFAPI plugins