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As best I understand it, The movies you get won't fit on a DVD because once they are converted they are too big. Now I'm not sure if this is entirely true, because i've converted some AVI's to mpegs that, after conversion, are roughly 2.1 gig instead of the 7 or 8 you may commonly get. The reason I've been told that you can't burn feature films to DVD is because the movie industry can change the bitrate at different parts of the movie to keep the average bitrate down, and because they use DVD-9's which hold close to 9 gig of data. This as opposed to the DVD-5's that we use which only hold 4.7 gig. If i figure out how to convert them I'll let you know
>The reason I've been told that you can't burn feature films to DVD is because the movie industry can change the bitrate at different parts of the movie to keep the average bitrate down
There is no reason why you can't burn movies to DVD.
The bitrate of an original DVD or AVI movie for that matter has nothing whatsoever to do with being able to fit it on to another disk.
When encoding what matters is length of the source not it's bitrate.
All commercial DVD's use a VBR (Variable bit rate) method of encoding, usually using bitrates between 2kb/s and 9.8kb/s. Some of these may not fit on to a regular DVDr disk.
The simple solution is to simply lower the max bitrate when encoding.
You will most likely not even notice a difference even with a max bitrate as low as 5kb/s.
As for commercial DVD's holding 9 gigs of data. This is simply due to all the extras included on the disk such as extra languages, subs, commentarys, angles and menus, all of which are unecessary.
To be honest most movies will easily fit on to a regular DVDr without even re-encoding once all the above has been stripped.
As for converting AVI's to DVD. Like I said just simply set reasonable bitrates and it will easily fit on a DVDr with hardly any loss in quality.
Okay so I'll use the default setting under DVD encoding (2pass VBR.....)
But would it improve the movie if I set the "motion search prrecision" to highest quality. And are there any other tweeks to set to improve the over all movie.
Constant Quality(CQ) is actually the best method to use for encoding DVD it's much quicker than 2pass and is the method commercial DVD's use, but it is harder to define the final output size.
Don't use 'Highest quality' for motion search as it has no benefit over 'High' except for almost doubling the encode time.
Also setting the quantize matrix setting to 'MPEG standard' gives better results.
If your source is progressive then encode it to 'Non-interlace' in the 'encode mode'. Not only will this improve the output, but will save some filesize due to the fact that interlace lines are harder to compress and use more bitrate.
'DC component' precision should be set at 10.
Okay I understand. But what suggestions would you have for the CQ settings? Assume the file is about 700mb divx DVD rip. Min, max and quality setting under CQ.
Also how do I know if the movie is Non interlace or not?
If you load your File into Tmpgenc useing the "Wizard" it analizes the File to see if it is Progressive or Interlaced and if it is Interlaced it judges the Correct Field order and sets it to the correct setting so if you use the Wizard you will find out these things about your file...
There is no point in telling me the size of the source file. This has no regard to the resulting file size of the encoded MPEG. It is the length of the source which is important NOT it's file size.
Okay so I set the rate to CQ. Asuming the movie is about 1 1/2 hours long can I set the quality to 100 and what about the min and max 8000-1000? With padding or without?
I also set the motion to high and component to 10 is this correct?
Lastly why would a movie that was with VBR = 4gb be 2.5gb at CQ =100 .... as above?
If you are creating a DVD you cannot set your bitrate below 2000kb/s if you want to keep within standard limits and to be honest anything below 1800kb/s will start to show noticible blocks.
You don't say what resolution your AVI file is?
I doubt there would be any need to set your max bitrate as high as 8000kb/s.
6000kb/s should be more than adequate. Actually TMPG's standard DVD settings create quite good results, but reducing the max to 6000kb/s and upping the slider to 80 or so will probably improve the image overall.
Setting the motion search to 'high' and including all the other tweaks I previously mentioned should improve things.
Also if your audio is already compressed in your AVI or is in AC3 format then there is no point in creating a PCM wav from it. If it's Ac3 then simply leave it as it is and demux it.
Make sure your VBV buffer is set at 224 and detect scene change is ticked.
If it's some other compressed format then convert it to MP2.
About the padding this depends on your DVD player. If it's quite tolerant with lower than standard bitrates then there is no need to check it as this will save on file size. If you machine does have problems when the bitrate drops low then you need to check this option.
Ok, i am using Adobe Premiere 6.0, and AviSynth as a frameserver so that i can directly export to TMPGEnc 2.5 to compress into a DVD format, it works fine, except when i have clips that play in slow motion (about 75% speed and less) the video becomes very jerky, is there anyway to avoid this??
I have TMPGenc 2.58. I created 40GB large AVI. When I open it in source range preview, there's no audio shown, not even straight green line. I tried crate smaller AVI (cca 1GB) and everything is OK. I have plenty disc space (60GB). Is it a bug or should I upgrade to newer version ? Thanks.
It would have been better if you gave more details about the AVI file. Since you said it was 40 GB I'm guessing that it is an uncompressed avi. I'm also guessing that the audio is in wav format and not compressed by some codec. Also, I'm guessing you are using WIN 2K/XP with NTFS that can handle large files.
You should split the streams so you have an audio file and a video file. I would recommend VirtualDub for this. Once you have the audio stream extracted from the AVI container try playing it using winamp or media player. This how you can verify if the audio stream is valid and not corrupt.
If the audio file works, load the avi file into the "video source" and the wav file into the "audio source". TMPGEnc lets you take the video from one file and the audio from another file.
This is not a bug in TMPGEnc as you posted a bug report. It more than likely it is your file.
Sometimes if you get no audio from an AVI with Uncompressed Audio it helps if you go to the "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the Priority of the "Wav File Reader"..
To Video Guy: The AVI is captured VHS casette. Video is compressed by Huffyuv codec (cca 1:2,2 ratio ). Sound is not compressed, quality is CD. All is captured via VirtualDub, last version. Yes, I use Win 2000, the used partition is 100GB NTFS. I didn't try to split Video/Audio in VDub so far. I do volume adjustment in GoldWave, simply opening AVI and saving adjusted WAV. But GoldWave also cannot hadle this large file. So I'll try the VDub splitting and post here how it went.
P.S.: As I said , capturing few seconds with the same audio/video settings gives me the file in which sound is shown OK.
To Minion: I'll try to rise the priority. We'll see...
Here's my observations:
Raising priority of Wav File Reader - no change.
So I tried to save WAV file from VDub. Resulting file was about 2.6 GB long. I tried to put it into TMPGenc as audio file - again no sound shown. So I tried to play WAV file by WinAmp - everything OK. But I tried to open WAV in GoldWave an before crash (better be said silent exit) it reported this 2 dialogs : "Wave file RIFF chunk size is incorrect" and "Wave file may be truncated or not properly aligned". I'm confused... I'll try to create (not record for the peresent) some WAV file (4 hrs) and put it into TMPGEnc. If it will be good, then the VirtualDub or SoundBlaster drivers (the recording process) are maybe to blame.
You have an encountered an "old school" problem. Back in the day "wav readers" had a file size limition on 2 gigs. Since you are using Win 2k, this means that you installed an older program that overwrote or deregistered the newer wav reader. Winamp uses its own internal wav reader, that is why you can play your file. TMPGEnc uses the wav reader registered to windows. You can change the priority of some of these readers like Minion suggested, but in this case it did not work for you. I have never used GoldWave so I'm not sure if that could be the problem. See if you can remember installing any older programs or filters.
The old avi format used to have a similar file size limitation, but now OpenDML solves this problem.
Kika gave a good suggestion. If you can play the avi file in VirtualDub then the easiest thing to do is to frame serve it.
Last findings: I raised priority of DirectShow Mutimedia File Reader to maximum and BINGO! ... sound appeared ! But not everything is OK - when I feed to project Video (AVI) and Audio (WAV) separately, the sound is shown only above 2GB ! Below 2GB, there's only straight green line. Whole WAV is OK (proved by WinAmp).
i have encoded and avi to mpg using TMPGenc. When i play the file on a pc i get sound no problem, When i burn this to SVCD and play it in my stand alone dvd player there is sound to start with but only for about the first ten seconds, It then cuts out the picture is still going but there is no sound at all at any point on the svcd after this
the audio on the avi is standard of 44100htz i used the avi as the audio source as well
i have read on other messages posted here that i may have to extract the audio with virtual dub, but i have noticed the people who are p[osting this have not got sound on the mpg file
incidentally if i just drop the avi file straight into nero and let that do the encoding i get exactly the same problem. i have tried burning with vcd easy as well.
my DVD player is a multi region toshiba sd220, have played VCD on it before no problem, this is the first time i have tried a SVCD, But do not think the player is at fault.
Please help im a bit of a newbie with this.
The movie will encode right but after it is done the screen is blank after for about 2 hours, i try to edit it out but it will not let, anybody know what is wrong
Probably because the Audio in your AVI file is Not supported By Tmpgenc, It is probably either "VBR Mp3" or "AC3" audio, you will need something like "AVI-Mux" to Demux the audio and uncompress it to Wav audio, then use the Wav audio as the audio source in Tmpgenc...
hi
i did down load a avi-mux but it only open avi not mpeg i need some thing to use convert mpeg to avi i can do this by tmpge but there is no sound,, please please help me thank you
You want to convert MPEG to AVI?
Are you making sure that the audio box is filled before encoding to AVI?
Also make sure both fields are checked in the AVI compression box before encoding and that the interleave setting is set to 1.
What audio format are you encoding to?
Oh and by the way if you want to encode to AVI you are much better off using Virtualdub which is much quicker because it can work directly with YUV rather than having to convert to RGB first like TMPG.
All the options such as video stream type are all greyed out. Im trying to save the file as an mpeg1, but the only way I can is if I change the profile to video cd film, then it goes to mpeg1, but the quality of course isnt good. Also when I save in mpeg2 then theres an annoying group of squares in the top right corner that arent there when I save as mpeg1.
Anyone help a noob out?
And if anyone can recommened a good tutorial read, that would be greatly appreciated.
OK, First Off that Anoying Block of Squares is Not in the Video, it is Because you have a Demo version of the "Elecard Mpeg2 decoder" installed on your System and it is Displaying it"s logo in the Top right corner..To Unlock All of the Settings you have to Load the "Unlock.mfc" template, You do this By clicking the "Load" button, then Navigate to the "Templates" Folder and in that Folder is a "Extra" folder and in that Folder is the "Unlock.mfc" Template, Just choose it and all of the settings will be unlocked.....
TMPGEnc 2.513.53.162 refuses to open DVD quality MPEG files created with Ulead DVD MovieFactory 2 for conversion to SVCD. Yet, these same files can easily be viewed/played in just about any PC without any problem.
TMPGEnc always tells me that "file.mpg" can not open, or unsupported. File.mpg can be any file name, of course.
These files have the following parameters automatically set by the Ulead program:
MPEG files
24 Bits, 720x480, 29.97fps (DVD-NTSC)
Video data rate: Variable (Max 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48KHz. Stereo
Here is what I have for conversion:
TMPGEnc 2.513.53.162 just installed; it contains the following codecs in the same folder for access:
TMPGEnc.vfp - Version 2.513.53.162
DVD2AVI.vfp - Dated 06/21/2002
I have tried raising the priority of the plug-ins, one at a time, starting with Vfapi but this has not solved the problem.
I have a new computer with a Pentium 4, 2.8GHz CPU in it and 1GB of RAM, so I know that is not the problem.
My main reason for downloading TMPGEnc is to see if this is a program that would work for me, so I am looking to find out what I am doing wrong that it is not working, or maybe I need additional codecs installed.
Any and all help before the trial version runs out will be greatly appreciated!
Well For Tmpgenc to Load Mpeg2 files You have to have certain Mpeg2 decoders installed on your System, But the Best way to encode Mpeg2/Vob files is to use "DVD2AVI" to make a D2V Project file and a wav audio file, then load the D2V file and the Wav file into Tmpgenc and encode to SVCD, This is the Method that 90% or poeple use because it is a better method of encodeing Mpeg2 file with Tmpgenc, and DVD2AVI is the Best Frameserveing tool for encodeing Mpeg2/vob files with Tmpgenc...
Well if it didn"t work then you did not do it right Cuz this is the Method that Most experienced poeple use to Backup DVD"s, and this Method is Tried and tested vigorously and been Proven to be Flawless if done correctly, You never explained why it didn"t work?? Well I guess you can try it the Substandard way and install the correct mpeg2 decoders on your System, If you install "Power DVD" it will install the "Cyberlink Mpeg2 decoder" on your System and this is one of the decoders that tmpgenc can use so it can load Mpeg2 files ,The other Decoder is called the "Ligos Mpeg2 decoder" this decoder comes with some codec packs like Nemo and Tsunami.....
>I have done just as you said in your previous answer with just one file, as a trial, but I'm sorry to say it still did not work that way either.
You obviously have made some sort of error somewhere if it didn't work. As minion says there should be no problem doing it this way. Maybe you have an outdated DVD2AVI VFAPI plugin. Copy the DVD2AVI.vfp from your current DVD2AVI folder and place it into your TMPG folder.
This IS a great program, and it does exactly the things I was looking for in this kind of program.
I installed the plug-in Ahsy suggested in her post, and that made it work great.
Thanks Minion and Ashy, for all the information and tips you have shared with me. I'll probably come up with more questions later on, but everything is good for now!
This has probably been mentioned before but I've not been here long.
I'd like a 'pause and resume' feature for encoding just like internet download managers have. It takes hours to encode at the highest quality and so many time you need to use your computer for something else or switch off altogether. It should also cater for power problems as well so it can pick up where it left off.
You can pause encodeing by just clicking "Stop" while encodeing and just do not answer when it asks if you want to abort encodeing, then you can go a Do something else, and when you want to resume encodeing just answer "No" in the Dialog box, But you can not stop encodeing and Shut down Tmpgenc or your Computer and I do not think it would be possible to Pause encodeing and Shut down Tmpgenc or your PC and then resume encodeing at the exact point that you stopped because if it was possible then there would Probably be at leasy One program that does it and as far as I know there isn"t a Single encoder on earth that can resume encodeing in this way...But if you really have to shut down you can allways use the "Source Range" to start encodeing a New file a frame after were you stopped then use the "Merge & Cut" to join the 2 files together....
I tried to make a DVD from 6 25-minute-videos (MPEG-2, 720x576, PAL, Audio MPEG1-L2, 48kHz, 192 kbps). The videos are well on the DVD, but the menus just won't work. If I set the first action to "Display main menu", the standalone DVD player just goes into stop. If I select "Play first track" it plays the first track, and when the menu should appear, it just goes into stop. So there seems to be something wrong with the menu settings, regardless what menu options (only main menu, main menu with chapters, several templates tried out, animated or not) I try. The whole thing works rather fine on my computer using PowerDVD, but what is strange that if I select the "Main Menu", the chapter menu of the first track appears, and if I select "Title Menu", the Main menu appears. Is there something wrong with the menu descriptors in the IFO file?