I'm new to this. I'm trying to use TMPGENC to
archive shows from my ReplayTV PVR to VCD or SVCD.

I run the mpg from the replay thru DVD2AVI, and then
use TMPGENC to make a compliant MPEG file. However,
in this second file, the sound seems to be out of
sync by about 1 second - its later than the video.

Any suggestions?

thanks

Cryptoguy

What heppens with those PVR Mpeg capture boxes Like replay TV is that when they drop frames while recording they Make up for the dropped Frame by adding Padding which is basicly empty Data to make up for the lost frame, But some Programs do not see these dropped Frames like DVD2AVI and Tmpgenc so when encodeing them Video becomes a Little shorter because it has less frames causeing it to go out of sync with the Audio, To see if this is the Problem, Demux the Original Mpeg file and compare the length of the audio to the length of the "Encoded" Video file and see if they are different, The differance should be about the amount they are out of sync, if this is the Problem you would have to Use an Audio editor like Sound Forge or Cool Edit to shrink the audio so it is the Same Length as the Video, but if this is not the Problem then it could just be a Matter of off-setting the audio or Video so that they match up, You can do this with a Multiplexor that has the Audio off set option, The Muxer in BBMpeg has an option like this but it is a Little tricky to use, The one in "Mpeg2Vcr" is really good and easy to use for this and it is one of the best Mpeg editors But it is not Freeware, well good luck..

I have an mpeg2 that was made from a "video capture" card. It plays perfectly with evey player I have tried. I used TMPGenc to translate it to an MPEG-1 format. The sound starts in sync and, after 45 minutes, is off by about 20 seconds. So I 'de-multiplexed', stretched the resulting .WAV file, and 'multiplexed' them together again. Now the sound is IN-SYNC at the beginning of the movie and is IN-SYNC at the end of the movie but is OUT-OF-SYNC in the middle of the movie! There is not much I can do about that.

My conclusion.....The frame rate varied during the capture and encoding to MPEG-2 format. The synchronization clocks in the MPEG-2 file cause it to be played perfectly in spite of this. But TMPGenc appears to ignore these clocks. I conjecture that TMPGenc is making the assumption that the frames are all equally spaced and that the audio is being sampled at exactly the correct frequency. This might be true for MPEG-2 files created from DVDs (perfect timing, nothing missing, and nothing added) but it is certainly not true for anything that has survived the rigors of being put onto and removed from a VHS tape.

By the way, I have some tapes that worked VERY well with TMPGenc. Others vary from decent to terrible. They all play **perfectly** with MPEG-2 players.

Hi. I must say that right now I'M IN HEAVEN, DELIGHTED... it's almost a sexual pleasure (almost) to have solved at last this problem of frozen MPEG-2 video streams. BTW, thanks to Minion & ASHY... but more about acknowledgements, later. Now, to the point:

THE PROBLEM (SYMPTOMS):

- You load a MPEG-2 video stream in order to re-encode it & you go to "Source range"... just to find that TMPGEnc can't detect its duration!! (perhaps displaying some strange value, like 5237605132 frames = 58195 hours).

- And / or: you encode the video stream (transcoding MPEG-2 for DVD backups, for example), and everything seems fine... till the encoding freezes at some particular frame, repeating that frame till the end of the film, or during some minutes!! (a "playback Pause" effect).

- And / or: you encode the video stream (transcoding MPEG-2 for DVD backups, for example)... but only the first frame!! (1 film into 1 frame: THAT'S compression, guys).

- ...or perhaps you didn't look at the entire encoding process (quite logical, losing 5-24 hours watching the PC screen isn't really enjoyable), but you playback the resulting MPEG-2 file... and it's completely useless: the video is "frozen", "hung-up", and no matter how many times you try: it happens always at the same(s) point(s) -yeah, sometimes more than once in the same file-.

THE SOLUTION:

- Before you go to TMPGEnc, load the original MPEG-2 file (.M2V / .VOB file) into DVD2AVI, and create a .D2V project file (File->Save Project). It's a quick process, don't worry!! After that, you can close DVD2AVI.

- Oh, you can get DVD2AVI almost everywhere... for example, try at http://www.doom9.org/

- At TMPGEnc, load that project file (that .D2V file), INSTEAD of the original .M2V/.VOB file (which, nevertheless, you still need: don't delete it yet!!)... And that's all!! Now, the stream duration detected will be 100% accurate, and the encoding won't stop anywhere!!

- If you still are experimenting these problems, try to do some real "frameserving", perhaps using VirtualDub & AuxSetup ( http://www.doom9.org/capture/frameserving.html )

- BTW, DVD2AVI is really useful for other tasks; the simplest one, its "preview" option (F5), to find the stream info (aspect ratio, frame rate & type -interlaced/progressive-...).

THE STORY & ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

Since my first encodings with TMPGEnc, I found that problem with some MPEG-2 files. I tried EVERYTHING, and the only "solution" was to encode "in fragments": from frame 0 to the ****ing bad frame, from the ****ing bad frame to the next one (hopely, the end one)... A REAL NIGHTMARE. I planned to buy TMPGEnc, but I had to begin to use another encoders, 'cause the problem appeared really often.

...But the other day, almost desperate (I DO prefer TMPGEnc over other encoders, it's really powerful & USER FRIENDLY), I found the solution here:
http://bbs.pegasys-inc.com/bbscgi/search/docs/en/tmpgenc/box59/tmpgenc_post_22608.html
THANKS A LOT to Minion, one of that kind persons that illustrate us, stupid newbies. The other forum guy I appreciate most is ASHY, THE REAL LIVING MASTER OF ENCODING... but he's too much lucky, he does almost everything without any problem, so sometimes it's difficult for him to reproduce our strange problems ;-p

Well, I suppose that this serious problem (which other encoders don't have) gets fixed really easily this way, putting again TMPGEnc as my favorite MPEG/MPEG-2 encoder (have I told you already how powerful & USER FRIENDLY it is??). I've posted this because it's an EASY solution, but NOT so easy to imagine or find at the forum.

I hope this really LONG post has help you a bit. If not, sorry for being SO tedious.

I have allways said that DVD2AVI is the Best way to encode a Mpeg2 file with Tmpgenc, it seems to be a superior Decoder and it is really fast, I encode every Mpeg2 file I capture with My Capture card useing DVD2AVI, it is an awesome frameserveing tool...well Im glad your Problem is solved...Cheers

I agree DVD2AVI is one of the best MPEG2 decoders there is and is also probably one of the fastest. Without it I wouldn't be able to create high quality DVD rips to XSVCD.
Anyway thanks for the support. Good to be appreciated now and then.

When I convert an AVI to MPG and then use VCDEasy to make a VCD there is a constant beeping in the background, any clues as to what is causing it?

Well I have never heard of this before, Why not try encodeing the audio to Mpeg audio with a Totally seperate audio encoder then Mux the audio back woth the Video then burn it and see if the beeping has stopped, That way you will find out if it is a Tmpgenc Problem or Something else..You can Extract the audio from the AVI with Virtual Dub then you can encode the audio to Mpeg1 Layer 2 audio with a audio encoder like DB Power Amp or Headac3he which are both freeware, then use the "Simple Multiplex in the Mpeg tools to Join the Audio and Video together.......

Are these beeping noises like high pitched pops of sound. This is caused by using either cheaper quality disks or in some cases Rewritables and by burning the disk to fast. Usually these beeps are also accompanied with noise on the screen such as blocks.
Burn the disk at a lower speed 4x is best.

Hi, I've used Convert DVD to convert a DVD to VCD (MPEG1) but when i play it back there is a combing effect during rapid motion, I've tried to use the de-interlace option in TMPEG but none of the filters totally remove it..

any ideas

thanks in advance

Ben - ben@organisers.freeserve.co.uk

You should not be getting any Interlaceing Problems if you are encodeing to Mpeg1 because Mpeg1 is Not interlaced,It is Progresive, and the Deinterlace Filter should get rid of any Interlaceing Problems, Usually either the Even Field or Odd field Setting works Well for me...You say you are useing something called "ConverToDVD" to convert a DVD to VCD and I assume that this Program uses Tmpgenc as it"s encoder??? If this is so maybe you should use the Proper Way of Turning a DVD into a VCD, those automated Program never seem to do it Right, if you do all of it Manually you will Get a Better result and you will Learn more...Most poeple Will Rip the DVD to there Hard drive with SmartRipper or DVD Decrypter, then use "DVD2AVI" to Make a D2V Project file for frameserveing and a Wav audio file, then load the D2V file into Tmpgenc and the Wav file for the audio then load the VCD template and encode it, This method is allmost allways Flawless, there should be a Guide on the Proper way to make a VCD at "http://www.dvdrhelp.com/".......good Luck

Is this a PAL movie or NTSC? If it's NTSC you probaly need to IVTC the source file. The best way to do this is to use the ForcedFILM option in DVD2AVI or TMPG's IVTC filter.
If it's a PAL movie then it is likely one of the notorious PAL movies with 24:1 pulldown. These movies are hell because it seems impossible to completely remove the interlacinfg artifacts. Using the double deinterlace filter seems to give the best results in TMPG, but it also makes motion slightly blurry.

AVIsynth's decomb filter is supposedly able to remove the 25th frame which causes the problem returning the movie back to a 24 fps progressive movie, but I have never been able to get it perfect but have got acceptable results.
http://shelob.mordor.net/dgraft/decomb/decombnew.html

hi its my first time in the cool world,i have lots of divX films and since i figure out were that we can use Svcd do run in dvd players i started reading about converting divx films ,now im stuked in 1 problem,i used dvd2ssvcd with tmpgenc to convert a film,when tempenc starts ,he says time remaning 20:00 hours..... its that normal?
or what im doing wrong.
this is my second attemp,the first 1 take me 4 hours converting ,can someone helpme out?

The encodeing Time Depends on the Settings you use in the "Motion Precition Search" and the Resolution of your File,The amount of filters you use and Most of all the Speed of your Computer..You should never set the "Motion Precition Search" to "Highest Quality(Slow)" because this will just make the encodeing take to long with no real Quality improvement over "High Quality"..and any System under say a 1.0ghz CPU is going to take a Really long time to encode, I use a 2.53ghz P-4 CPU and it takes me about 3-5 hours to encode a Full movie to SVCD, so it could take up to 20 hours if you only had a 1ghz CPU and useing "Highest Quality" will make it take twice as Long as usual....

Encoding properly simply takes a long time -- there's no short-cut if you want good quality. However, 20 hours sounds much too long. Here are some ideas that might save a little time:

-- Did you set "Motion Search Precision" to "highest quality"? This is extremely slow and almost always unnecessary. Try the next setting ("high quality"). You'll save a lot of time, and almost nobody spots any difference in quality.

-- Do you have any other programs running? Shut down absolutely everything else first. Anti-virus, screen-savers, internet connections....everything.

-- Do you have an old PC? If the PC has a slow processor, you may have to live with slow encoding.

Finally, the estimated time shown by TMPGEnc is sometimes too high. I use 2-pass VBR coding, and the actual processing time is usually about 20-25% shorter than the initial estimate.

Does Tmpgenc allow Anamorphic option for both analog(4:3) and digtal wide television(16:9)?

Thanks.

Kisoo

I have a question. I'm kinda new to this whole ball game of copying DVD's or making backups at least and I have been working on this one for over a week and a half now. Every direction I turn leads to a dead end. Now that I FINALLY have the audio and video together into one file that is about 720 MB I want to put it on a DVD disc, but there are problems. My avi file is at a rate of 23.983 fps and I don't know how to change the fps setting. This is really gay. Maybe I shouldn't depend on this product or any in that matter, because none of them are full versions. Any help would be greatly appreciated and don't say buy the full version, because I'm only 16 and don't have a job or enough money to pay for the full versions. How do I get this lousy file onto a DVD at 23.983 fps?

Thanx
DX508

I have a question. I'm kinda new to this whole ball game of copying DVD's or making backups at least and I have been working on this one for over a week and a half now. Every direction I turn leads to a dead end. Now that I FINALLY have the audio and video together into one file that is about 720 MB I want to put it on a DVD disc, but there are problems. My avi file is at a rate of 23.983 fps and I don't know how to change the fps setting. This is really gay. Maybe I shouldn't depend on this product or any in that matter, because none of them are full versions. Any help would be greatly appreciated and don't say buy the full version, because I'm only 16 and don't have a job or enough money to pay for the full versions. How do I get this lousy file onto a DVD at 23.983 fps?

Thanx
DX508

OK..This is Pretty Easy, Look for a Little Program called "DoPulldown" you can get it here : http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/SupportUtils/DoPulldown.1.0.0.0.zip
This Program does a Proscess called 3:2 Pulldown on your 23.97fps file, and will convert it so that it will play at 29.97fps and you will be able to Burn it to DVD after you have authored it with Your DVD authoring program...But the next time you encode a 23.97fps file in Tmpgenc you should use the "23.97fps(29.97fps Internally)" Frame rate setting, this will do the same thing as DoPulldown....

But if I convert to 23.967 fps the audio/video sync goes out. i need to use a fps of 23.983 don't I? thanx

that website url doesn't work. there is no program there called dopulldown. any other links that you know of? and how do you author a DVD. is that built in to th dvd burning program? Say SonicDVD for instance. thats what I have. will the audio still be in sync with the video(23.983 fps) if i change the fps to 23.97(29.97 internally)?

thanx
DX508

Hi, Well the Link Just worked for me, But I use FlashGet to download, Just go to "Google" and Type in "DoPulldown" and there are LOTS of Hits and you should be able to download from one of those sites..There will be No audio Sync Problem if you use "DoPulldown" or if you use the "23.98fps(29.97fps Internally" setting, If you do Not know the Proscess of "3:2 Pulldown" to Turn 23.98fps Progressive into 29.97fps Interlaced then theck this out: http://www.zerocut.com/tech/pulldown.html ....it explains The Proscess of 3:2 Pulldown and the Differance between Interlaced and Progressive frames, It is a Must read if you want to get into Digital Video and DVD Authoring...

Hello!

I have 2 AMD MP 2000+ XP with Mother Board GA-7DPXDW-P - Win XP Pro and THE BEST TMPGenc 2.5.11.

When I encode any divx movie, the audio is corrupt. It appears to be "intermittent", not linear. Why this?

Thanks!
Mark
P.S.(exuse me for my bad english).

Well I know that 2.511 has a Bug in it haveing to do with the "Hyper Threading", Maybe this is your Problem, Try upgradeing to the Newest version "2.512" as the Bug has been Fixed....

Thank you, Minion......
but I had mistake! In fact I am use the newest version 2.5.12 also.
Now, in some cases the audio appears corrupt as I had show before, so, what is the best solution about your suggestion "Hyper Threading"? Tell me more details to set TMPGenc to work fine with 2 cpu AMD MP.
Thanks again!
Mark.

There is Probably a Work around for your Problem, Like if you are Makeing DVD"s with Wav audio then you can Try extracting the Audio First then Just encode the Video after, You can do this Just by Loading in your File and going to "file" to "Output to" then to "Wav" and it will Extract the audio to Wav format, then in the "Stream type" setting choose "Video Only" and encode it ,this will Just leave you with a M2V video file, then you author it to DVD like usual..If you are Makeing VCD or SVCD you can Just load in your File then choose "Audio Only" under "Stream Type" then configure the audio in the audio settings the way you want, then click "Start" and it will encode a "MPA" audio file, then set the "Stream type" to "Video only" and encode just the Video then you can Mux them together with the Mpeg tools....

Ok! I'll try it!
Thanks!
I'll see you very soon!
Mark!

I have a 23.976 (NTSC - 720x480) progressive cartoon avi file. I would like to MPEG-2 and later author it to DVD.

I would like the DVD to playback:
1 - Interlaced on a regular TV (To avoid the flicker)
2 - Progressive on a HDTV

From my research, I found this is what the movie studios do. A typical DVD movie will play back progressive on an HDTV and interlaced on a regulat TV.

What settings in TMPGEnc would I use to encode?

I was thinking I should set the Encode Mode to "3:2 pulldown when playback" with a Frame Rate set to "23.976 (internally 29.97)". Is this correct?

Many thanks for any help.

Useing the "23.97fps(29.97 internally setting)" should add 3:2 Pulldown to the header of the file so that your DVD Player Plays it as Interlaced 29.97fps, But I wouldn"t know what HDTV would do as I know very little about it, You can also encode it as 23.97fps and use a Little Program called "Pulldown.exe" to add the 3:2 Pulldown, This is how a Lot of Poeple ass 3:2 pulldown instead of useing the "23.97fps(29.97 internally setting)".....

I want to convert a karaoke video, but I DO NOT want to omit the vocals part. The original video have the vocals, but once I convert it to MPEG, the vocals are gone. Any solutions?

Thanks.

You have to Rip and Convert the Subtitles of the DVD.
Ripping can be done by SubRip. Subtitling the Video can be done by VirtualDub and VOBSub or Subtitler (Filters).
Guides can be found on vcdhelp.com or doom9.org.

Thank you.

I was able to convert it once, though, using TMPGENC only and the vocals were intact. I then tried doing it again, and I can't. What could I be doing wrong (or right)?

Normally I use avi2svcd to resize with bicubic resize option. Now I'd like to use just avisynth script and tmpgenc to encode.

Here is my question.

If I have 608x320 avi file and I want to keep same screen rate, I have to resize vertical resolution to 252(so 480:252) and pad up and down margin 114 each.(I did this way)

So this is my avisynth script resulted.

Import("C:PROGRA~1DVD2SVCDMovieRESAMP~1.AVS")
LoadPlugin("C:PROGRA~1DVD2SVCDAVISYN~1Mpeg2decmpeg2dec.dll")
AVISource("C:Download****.avi",False)
ConvertToYUY2()
BicubicResize(480,252,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,114,0,114)

But....
When I look at the analog 29 inches TV screen, it looks like that it lost more vertical pixel or lines. So lt looks more flat than expected.

Am I using wrong mathematics?

Thanks.

Kisoo

Try this:

BicubicResize(480,384,0,0.6,0,0,600,320)
AddBorders(0,48,0,48)

or this:

BicubicResize(480,352,0,0.6,0,0,596,320)
AddBorders(0,64,0,64)

Or this:

BicubicResize(480,336,0,0.6,0,0,608,320)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)

One of these 3 Part-Scripts will do it right. Which one depants on the Source which has an incorrect Aspect Ratio.

I personally use the "SimpleResize.dll" because it is a very Fast resizer and it is easy to use you just have to use " simpleresize(480,252) ...But you can allways do this in Tmpgenc by going to "Video arrande Method" and set it to "Center custom size" and to "480+252", This would be much faster than useing AVISynth to resize because it seems that your Source is a AVS file so you are sort of Double frameserveing...

>If I have 608x320 avi file and I want to keep same screen rate, I have to resize vertical resolution to 252(so 480:252) and pad up and down margin 114 each.(I did this way)

This calculation is wrong.
The easiest way would be to load the original AVI into Gordian Knot and use it's resizer to adjust the size to compatible SVCD format then just load the .Avs file it creates into TMPG.

Also your source is not true 16:9 it's a few pixels short.
trues 16:9 would be 608x304 NTSC or 608x336 PAL.

Secondly the calcultion you are making for the vertical resolution is using 480 as the horizontal resolution. With SVCD the horizontal resolution will be stretched to 704 so you should use 704 when calculating your vertical resolution.
This would mean to create a correctly sized aspect ratio you would use a resolution of 480x352 for NTSC and 480x384 for PAL with the rest being padded up to 480(NTSC) or 576(PAL) by borders. Which means in your case you should resize to 480x352 and have 2 borders which are 64.

Like KIKA says your source has an incorrect aspect ratio but the settings he gave in the middle should be close enough however you could correct this by altering the vertical resolution to 320 and then adjusting the borders accordingly to give you the correct frame size.