Does TMPG support an AC3 output? I need to have the audio portion of an AVI file encoded as .ac3... the video half worked great!

Dan

It does not support ac3 but you can use TMPGenc MPEGTool to mux a m2v and ac3 file.

You will need to Get an AC3 encoder to encode the audio to ac3 then you can use AVI-Mux to mux the ac3 to the avi file...AC3 encoders are Expensive and quite slow compared to other audio encoders...

In the latest versions, changing the bitrate for audio or video doesn't change the resulting file's size ! I want to be able to be able to reduce the size of my file, can I ?

Or is it because the software players would not read standart compliant bitrate settings in mpeg1 ?

I hope this bug will be resolved.

This is Bug in the Latest version If you run the file through the Multiplexor of a Different version of Tmpgenc it should shrink the file by removeing the excess Padding..The bug should be removed in the next version...

Hi folks i have a problem
in FAQ i could read about "streaming writing error" and they say that maybe there isn't enough HDD space on the temp and target HDD so my TMPGEnc progi tells me i need approxi. 4,300 gig HDD space. i have over 6 gig free HDD space and still get the message "streaming writing error"!

can somebody help me pls ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

thx in advanced

matz300

You Might need More that 6gb if you are doing a Long movie...Tmpgenc Caches Information collected while encodeing In a Temp file and that temp file can get up to and over 5gb Plus the size of the file you are encodeing could take you well over 6 gb.....

I've been using TMPGenc to do my DVD encode using the NTSC movie/film template with 2.58 Plus trial using 2 pass VBR setting. My source is 23.87fps. I didn;t change the Template default setting of 23.97fps(internally 29.97fps) and 3:2 pulldown on playback. After encoding i author it using Ulead DVD workshop and it burn ok. But when i tried it on PS2 and and APex 1201, Picture will skip and freeze. But DVD work fine on Sony and Toshiba Standalone just not on PS2 and Apex. I thought it was ulead problem, so i author with DVDit PE and get same results. Its not a media problem since i'm using Pioneer DVD-RW and Verbatim DVD-RW. Problems was solve when i let ulead workshop encode for me instead and disc play fine on all dvd player. But encoding with ulead doesn't give much control over the end product size and quality and sometimes ulead encoding lead to audio sync but picture are not jumpy or freezing.

Anyone having any success with TMPgenc using templates? or do we have to change settings? What kind of settings do i have to use so that DVD compatiable with PS2 or Apex?

You know the answer to your Problem cuz you Posted it in your Question...You said you DIDn"t set the Frame rate to 23.9/29.9fps Internally..A NTSC DVD Has to have a Frame rate of 29.9fps, there is No Standard in DVD that lets you use 23.9FPS so ALL NTSC DVD Frame rates Have to be 29.97fps..You should have used the "23.9/29.9 Internally" setting if you have a 23.9FPS source, But if you are ripping a DVD Then you Shouldn"t use the Forced Film option in DVD2AVI Cuz 23.9fps is not DVD Compliant....

I mean i did use the 23.97fps(internally 29.97fps) and 3:2 pulldown on Playback. What i was meaning to say in the previous message is i didn't change anything in the NTSC DVD Film standard template.

I think it works fine to use forced film with DVD2AVI and then use "3:2 pulldown when playback" during encoding. That way you get flawless 29.97 to 23.976 conversion in DVD2AVI without having to do an adaptive inverse telecine. And you get progressive 29.97 encoding (via repeat field flags) in TMPG instead of interlaced.

The only problem I have is that time display on a DVD player in progressive mode runs slow. It increments the counter every 30 frames even though the display rate is 24fps. Don't know whether this is an MPEG file issue or an authoring issues.

I think Force Film in DVD2aVi just remove the flags from MPEG with 3:2 flags that was ripped from dvd. It cant open avi anyway. I also use bitrate viewer to view the difference between files converted from TMPGenc and ulead. I found the only difference is the scan type. Ulead clip have scan type of Alternate while TMPgEnc have scan type of Zigzag. No sure if it makes a difference. But anyone know how to make TMPGEnc encode with scan type of alternate?

Encodeing With 23.9/29.9 internally Doesn"t give you a 29.9fps Progressive File..It turns 23.9fps into 29.9fps Interlaced...It does the Exact opposite of what the "Forced Film" does in DVD2AVI so Doing "Forced Film" is a Redundant Proscess. If you are useing Forced film to Make it 23.9fps then useing Tmpgenc to turn it back to 29.9fps,then you are getting the same file as if you Didn"t use Forced film at all, so useing the Forced film is a Redundant proscess ..

> It turns 23.9fps into 29.9fps Interlaced...

That's absolutly wrong!

You HAVE to use Forced Film (if the Source if Film-Source!).
On most NTSC-DVDs, the Videos are stored with 23.97 FpS (progressive). The 3:2 Pulldown on Playback-Flag has to be set, so the Player repeats some Fields to produce 29.96 FpS while Playback.
So, a correct authored NTSC-DVD with Film-Source NEVER includes interlaced Video with 29.96 FpS.
If you are not using Forced Film in DVD2AVI, you will get a wrong interlaced Video with 29.96 FpS which includes blendet Frames (bad quality). If you use this Option, you will get a smooth and clear Frame-based Video without Blendings an with 23.97 FpS. That's what DVD-Standard say's about NTSC!

B_Racer is right Minion. You should always use the ForcedFilm option in DVD2AVI to return FILM sources back to their original 23.976 fps progressive state.

Due to the way 3:2 pulldown works, this causes problems with blended frames and interlacing artifacts when attempting to encode it. The best way to encode 3:2 pulldown sources is to remove the extra fields using IVTC or the better way is using DVD2AVI.
You will then have a very clean source which should not need any de-interlacing and have no problems encoding.

Using the '3:2 pulldown when playback' option will telecine this Movie to make it compatible for NTSC playback and also saves on file size because there are no actual extra frames in the file just flags. The extra frames are created by the player.
This means that a 23.976 MPEG encoded with pulldown will take up less space than a real 29.97 fps MPEG.

ASHY

>I think it works fine to use forced film with DVD2AVI and then use "3:2 pulldown when playback" during encoding. That way you get flawless 29.97 to 23.976 conversion in DVD2AVI without having to do an adaptive inverse telecine. And you get progressive 29.97 encoding (via repeat field flags) in TMPG instead of interlaced.

Once 3:2 pulldown is applied to a source, the movie is no longer using progressive frames, so you can't have a 29.97 fps progressive movie.
The movie will indeed be interlaced as is required by the DVD standard for NTSC playback. The standards state NTSC DVD must playback at at a rate of 29.97 fps and be interlaced.

Interlacing is a process of using one frame and splitting it into 2 fields. Without these fields 3:2 pulldown just wouldn't be able to work.
3:2 Pulldown is a process of overlaying 1 frame on to three fields therefore all NTSC DVDs are actually Interlaced Video, but stored as FILM.

ASHY

>I think it works fine to use forced film with DVD2AVI and then use "3:2 pulldown when playback" during encoding. That way you get flawless 29.97 to 23.976 conversion in DVD2AVI without having to do an adaptive inverse telecine. And you get progressive 29.97 encoding (via repeat field flags) in TMPG instead of interlaced.

Once 3:2 pulldown is applied to a source, the movie is no longer using progressive frames, so you can't have a 29.97 fps progressive movie.
The movie will indeed be interlaced as is required by the DVD standard for NTSC playback. The standards state NTSC DVD must playback at at a rate of 29.97 fps and be interlaced.

Interlacing is a process of using one frame and splitting it into 2 fields. Without these fields 3:2 pulldown just wouldn't be able to work.
3:2 Pulldown is a process of overlaying 1 frame on to three fields therefore all NTSC DVDs are actually Interlaced Video, but stored as FILM.

ASHY

So I was Right Partly,There is no such thing as 29.9fps Progressive DVD"s...

Dont know what im doing wrong. My avi source is 23.976 fps. I use 3:2 pulldown on playback and 23.976fps(internally 29.976fps) . It play fine on PC and some standalone but is jerky and freezing on some Standalone. Anyone have a template for TMPGenc 2.59 that works for converting avi 23.976fps to DVD NTSC standard?

You may not be doing anything wrong except using crap disks.
Just because a disk plays fine in one player, it doesn't mean it will play in the next. Some machines are less tolerant to cheap disks. If your disk plays fine in one player then it's obvious there is nothing wrong with your encoding.

ASHY

>Dont know what im doing wrong. My avi source is 23.976 fps. I use 3:2 pulldown on playback and 23.976fps(internally 29.976fps) . It play fine on PC and some standalone but is jerky and freezing on some Standalone. Anyone have a template for TMPGenc 2.59 that works for converting avi 23.976fps to DVD NTSC standard?

I had the same jerkeyness problem. Until...
What I do is DVD2AVI (Forced Film) then load the project in TMPGEnc.Input progressive. Output interlaced. Works great on my settop players.

I do have a template I use. Also working on a HowTo with:
NTSC Films with DD AC3
Smartripper
DVD2AVI
IFOEdit
TMPGEnc
Nero
Start to finish backups of movie only working well.
Minority Report is churning away as we speek on another PC.

Ok. Thanks for the reply, and a few more bits.....

A. Ligos has seemed to start working overnight! Didn't do anything, not even a restart! Cyberlink is still doing its half height thing though!

B. RE: DVD2AVI
So making a .d2v file will make for a better conversion? Any setting to configure, What about the sound? (can it be got from the .d2v or do i need to take it from the source mpeg?) I'll go have a play but advice here would be appreciated.

When Useing DVD2AVi on Mpeg2 files it will Demux the Audio and Make a D2V file ,you just encode the D2V file and that is all you need to encode ,then after the D2V file is Finnished being encoded you take the audio that DVD2AVI de-Muxed from the original Mpeg and Mux it with the Newly encoded Mpeg file..The is No need to re-encode the audio Cuz it is allready in the Correct Format for Mpeg Video....

ok I dowloaded tmpg a while ago and i went to use it today and it said that my time has expired and that i should buy it if i need to use it.. is there anyway i can get a new trial period?

30 Days after you have originally downloaded and installed tmpgenc the Mpeg2 Function will run out and the only legal way arround it is to Buy the Full Plus version...No one would probably ever buy tmpgenc if You could download a New demo every month.....

I try to convert an divx4 avi into SVCD MPG2. The movie is about 136min.
I startet the Project wizard using SVCD with CBR and at Bit Rate Settings window a movie length of 394min is displayed and the filesize of the Mpg would be about 6 GB !!!! I tried VBR.... but nothing helps!!! Oh, I tried the latest TMPGEnc Version

That's a well known problem. You have to decode the Audio-Part to WAV first (using VirtualDub) or to use VirtualDub als Frameserver.

Hey guys,

I have an Apex ad1200 dvd player that plays raw mpgs. However, I've been having difficulties with a few and someone told me it's because the mpgs are compressed. Is there anyway I can 'uncompress' the original avi so I can convert it, burn it and play it? Will Tmpgenc do this? If so, how? Sorry, I'm kind of new at this.

Thanks
Dereck

What do you mean 'original AVI'? You don't have the original AVI do you? just the MPEG.

The problem is probably because you are trying to play raw MPEG files.
You should add a VCD header to these files to make them more compatible with your player and most others.

You can do this by running the MPEG you have (assuming it is MPEG1) through the 'simple multiplex' option in the MPEGtools in TMPG.
Choose the stream setting 'MPEG1 VCD' if it's encoded at standard VCD bitrate or 'MPEG1 VCD(non standard) if not.
Rename your output and click run.
Now use Nero with the VCD burning option to burn your MPEG to disk.

ASHY

Thanks for the suggestion, but won't I have to split the movie between 2 discs? From what I understand, converting to VCD only allows 80 minutes per disc. I've never tried making vcds for this very reason. Thus, I was hoping I could leave the file in mpg. I have several that are close to 2 hours in length but easily fit on 1 disc. The picture and audio also play fine. Is there something I can do to the original avi or the converted mpg? I was told they won't work because they are compressed. Is it possible to uncompress them?

Sorry for the newbie questions.
Dereck

If you are Makeing Disks with 2 hours of Mpeg movie on them then that could be the problem...With 2 hours on a Disk the bitrate has to be about 700-800kbs which is way to low to have any sort of Quality at all and your DVD Player Might not be able to Read Mpeg files with a Bitrate that low..You actually get More Mpeg on a Disk in VCD/SVCD format then you will get burning it as a Data Disk..Burning Data on a Disk you only get 700mb on a 700mb 80minute disk But in VCD/SVCD format you get 800mb on a Cd-r..And I"m sure there are certain Standards to the Mpeg files the DVD player will play,Like they have to have certain Resolutions and frame rates and Bitrates just like DVD"s and every other standard...

I have several files that I have converted with bitrates lower than 700. I did this to specifically fit the files on 1 cd and they ended up working fine in my player. Sure, the video was not DVD quality, but it was more than good enough for what I need.

That's my whole problem. I can't seem to figure out why some mpgs will play while others will not. All of the settings in tmpgenc seem to be the same for each file.

>Is there something I can do to the original avi or the converted mpg? I was told they won't work because they are compressed. Is it possible to uncompress them?

Who the hell is giving you this info? Tell them they don't know what they are talking about.

Ofcourse MPEGs and AVI are compressed! This is the whole point of MPEG.
To create a compressed movie which has high quality and small file size.
If you did decompress the MPEG to uncompressed frames it would be absolutely huge in size. Uncompressed frames can take up to 1Gb a minute. How many disks do you think you would need to fit a regular uncompressed movie on to disk?

>Thanks for the suggestion, but won't I have to split the movie between 2 discs? From what I understand, converting to VCD only allows 80 minutes per disc. I've never tried making vcds for this very reason. Thus, I was hoping I could leave the file in mpg. I have several that are close to 2 hours in length but easily fit on 1 disc. The picture and audio also play fine.

I didn't advise you to re-encode your MPEGs, but I simply told you to add the VCD header required by most DVD players. This will *NOT* change the size of your file. The process is quick as no re-encoding is taking place.

Once you have added a VCD header to your raw MPEG they will then be compatible for burning as VCD using Nero or other VCD burning program.

As for lowering the bitrate to fit a movie on to one CD. The quality must absolutely awful. Standard VCD is bad enough, but lowering even further creates, in my opinion, unwatchable crap.
Do yourself a favour and split to 2 disks. The quality will be much higher and better appreciated by others and make the disks compatibl with other players.

Take it from me, as you become more experienced, in time you will probably look back at these first disks you have created and be embarrassed by the quality and will probably never want to show thwm or watch them again.

ASHY

Having problems opening mpeg2 files after a system re-install.

The "Ligos MPEG-2 Decoder" always seems to fail on the file I want to open.
And the "Cyberlink MPEG-2 Decoder" open the file as half height! (720*288 instead of 720*576)

As ideas? What else could I try? It worked fine before the system re-install but i couldn't say which codec was used before! Does the ATI DVD player install a useable codec? If so that could be it as I fucked up and installed DX9 before I tried to install the ATI DVD player and thus the ATI DVD player refuses as it keeps on moaning about DX8 not being insrtalled ;-).

BAH!

You should not use any MPEG2-DirectShow-Filters for Converting MPEG2 because they are all working in 16 Bit-Color-Space, what drops the possible Quality of the Video. Use DVD2AVI to create an .d2v-Project. That will give you the best possible Quality.

Yes, use DVD2AVI for source when encoding but it is still handy to have a decoder for working with MPEG files on the merge/cut tool.

There are different versions of the Ligos filter floating around. You system re-install might have enabled an old or incompatible version. Search the file system (and web) for other copies to try.

When using pre-2.57 TMPG, Directshow sometimes selects video/audio filter combinations that do not work. Use graphedit to make sure Ligos is both the video and audio decoder by default. Create .bat files to unregister offending filters until Ligos comes up. Example:

:: Unregister (/U option) a video filter
regsvr32 /U /S etxvdec.ax

i'm a italian student with an handicap of hear,i want to say if possible who i do with tmpgenc for subtitles in vcd

You cant do subtitles with in Tmpgenc But you can frame serve the Subtitles from Virtual Dub with a subtitle filter....

thank,i have used DVDx for subtitle with video server package to connect tmpgenc,i have a subtitles but the quality of vcd is low more than encoding with dvd2avi and pursuit encoding with tmpgenc.can i do to inflate the subtitles in dvd2avi and subsequently encoding with tmpgenc video and audio separately?with the sub ripper can i do insert subtitles in a mpeg file(VCD)or i dont for the problem of synchronisation of audio and video subtitles?
PLEASE HELP ME

I have some files I encoded in DVD format for my DVD burner and I wanted to know if there's any way I can trim off some of it to fit onto my blank DVD? I checked out mpeg tools and all it has is formats for SVCD and VCD...but nothing for DVDs! isn't there a way I can get around this situation?? Please reply ASAP.....I need to know right away please!

No, there are also options in the Mpeg tools for Mpeg1 and Mpeg2 and you would need to just use the Mpeg2 setting....

When ever I load a avisynth script into tmpgn I get the following error " tmpgn performed and illegal operation, tmpgnec caused an invalid fault at kernel 32.dll" and the program shuts down. I have the readavi.dll properly loaded and even adjusted the vfpai values several times, but no luck.
This just started happening and I was able to load /encode them before.. I can load a avi with no problem. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the program twice, but still no luck. Im using v 2.59 plus.
Thanks
John