Does anyone knows why a beep sounds at the joining of the files. Have I missed something?
Thanks in advance.

You haven"t missed anything,this seems to happen when you edit and join a file part way through a "gop", you can try to avoid it by editing and joining in a different part like a second earlier or later in the file,..

Always click the 'correct' button before you join, this should correct the problem. This should make sure the GOP's are joined together correctly.
If it doesn't, do as Minion says and move the cut up or down a few frames slightly and try again.

ASHY

I capture one hour of video with AVI-IO that "breaks" it in several files because of the 2 GB limitation. Those several files are then joined with TMPGenc so there are no way how to join in a different part like a second or even a frame earlier or later or the result video will certainly jump. Am I wrong?

What sort of AVI are you using. Using today's modern AVI codecs you should be able to capture up to 4gb of AVI.
The 2gb limit was for old version 1 AVI.

ASHY

You should be using virtualdub to frameserve those segmented files to TMPG, or AVIsynth to join them, not joining them together like that.

Open Virtual dub, load your first AVI then click File>Append video segment and load next AVI. Do this for each segment and they will be automatically joined into one then start the frameserver and frameserve to TMPG.

ASHY

I was just wondering why TMPGEnc Version 2.54a dosen't convert the audio along with the video -- It will start off fine with about 5 seconds of video & audio but then after that the audio will cut out and i'm left with the video only -- I'm new to this program so if anyone could help It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks In Advance.
Blaze902

If the audio on your avi files is "mp3 vbr" tmpgenc will have problems encodeing and it will either cut out or just not encode,as a general rule I allways extract the audio from my avi"s to "wav" format and encode that for my audio, this is one possible cause of your problem,but the solution will fix many audio problems..

Whenever I de-multiplex an MPEG2 file, it shortens the video by several minutes making it impossible to re-multiplex.

For example, a 45 minute MPEG2 de-multiplexes to ~39 minutes. The audio stays at 45 minutes.

Has anyone seen this and found a fix?

Try a different "demultiplexor" , there is a free one called "XMuxer" which uses "Elcard Mpeg2" software but is put out by a company called "MoonLight" you can find it on a search engine just type in "XMuxer" but it only works with mpeg2, but it seems to do the job with files that don"t work with "tmpgenc"..

Actually Xmuxer will de-multiplex MPEG1 files too even though it isn't naturally supported.
A pretty good multiplexer, de-multiplexer comes with Darims DVMPEG software and is supposedly meant to be more accurate regarding the MPEG specifications than TMPG.
http://www.darvision.com/product/dvmpeg.html

ASHY

What I want to do is Encode a VCD with several repeating frame.
I want to have "1" Frame repeat over and over so that it shows for 5 seconds.
Also Is their any way to Encode into TMPGenc still pictures I have into a movie similar to stop motion photography where they put together still shots to make it apear that the object or objects are moving another problem I am faced with is having them repeat so they apear for a few seconds. Sugestions?

You can take seperate pictures in "bitmap" or "jpeg" format and encode them into a mpeg file, and there might be a way you can get 1 frame repeat for 5 frames sort of , if you have an avi file that was at 5 frames per second and encoded it to mpeg at 29.97fps, I think "tmpgenc" would just repeat the first frame five times then the next frame five times and so on, but it would look really wierd, but I guess this is what you are going for...

Minion:
How do I go about doing that? That sounds good. I have a couple test patterns I am trying to encode as the patterns allow you to set your brightness, Sharpness and contrast to THX quality. Pulled it off the "From Hell" DVD.
Also I figured it would be cool if I could do some stop animation Video with my Digital camera..hehe Any help you could give would be apreciated thanks. :o) ~ NewtronX

There is an easy way to do this using Animation shop in PSP 7.
Get yourself a copy and I'll give you instructions how to use it to repeat a frame for five seconds.

ASHY

ASHY:
Whats Animation shop in PSP 7? Is PSP 7 an abreviation? Also I was hoping TMPGenc could do it alone guess not bummer.. TMPGenc rocks I wish It did every thing as it already seems to come close to bad it cant read and import sequential VOB files automaticaly like DVD2AVI.

Animation shop is a part of Paintshop pro 7 or you can download it separately from http://www.jasc.com/product.asp?pf_id=003

Here is a direct link to the software: http://www3.jasc.com/pub/ans304ev.exe


ASHY

Thanks for the program ASHY its kinda neat but I still wish TMPGenc could do it..lol I want TMPGenc to be the Begin all and end all...TMPGenc Rocks.
Thanks again ASHY and Minion for you advice. Best regards ~NewtronX

HereÃÔ what I did: I transfered video captured from my digital camcorder to my computer using my PYRO firewire card. Next I created a final edited piece using a combination using Ulead Media Studio Pro and Pinnacle Studio 7. Finally, I used TMPGENC to create a DVD-compliant MPEG2 and then created a DVD using DVDIT.



HereÃÔ my problem: The final edited DV video looks great played back on the computer or played back on my TV. But the MPEG2 played back on the computer or on the my home DVD player has major jitter/flicker/noise during all significant movements (Imagine a camera focusing on one person and then moving to another person).


Now, I can recompress my final DV file with the ÅÇlicker freeEoption or change the field order and choose ÅÅeinterlaceEand then create a new DV file before encoding to MPEG2 and the jitter/flicker/noise problem is solved, but there are problems with this. First, this is an extra step and requires extra time. Second, I am recompressing the file, which could not be good for overall quality. Third, it seems like there is an easier way and that most people wouldnÃÕ even think to go through that extra step.


Am I missing something obvious here? I just want to streamline the process and maximize the final quality of the DVD. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Do your deinterlacing in TMPGenc. Goto Setting->Advanced and double click on the deinterlace filter.

I take it the original movie is an interlaced 29.97 fps movie.
These sound like interlacing artifacts. You should have applied IVTC to the original movie before encoding it to MPEG2 to return the movie to a progressive frames state or captured to progressive frames in the first place (if that's possible)

Or you could just use the de-interlace option in TMPG when encoding, but the quality will be lower.

ASHY

I thought that DV (to .avi) from a DV camcorder was non-interlaced already? This is very confusing! Can someone elaborate when using DV/.avi as input to TMPGEnc?

I found this on deja.com after posting my original question and it solved the problem.

> > Under advanced set the source to interlaced.
> > Under deinterlace set the checkmark.
> > double click on it, then select the even-odd field option.(field
> > adaptation).

How much qualiy loss should I expect here? And if I have to reencode my original DV, aren't I going to lose an equal amount of quality? And finally, why do you think I need this extra step to begin with? Might it be Pinnacle's capture piece?

Thanks for all of the input!

De-interlacing will correct the problem, but because of the way de-interlacing works it will give your movie a slightly blurry bilinear effect, and can make some movement look unatural.

IVTC is usually used on movies that were originally progressive 23.976 fps and have had a 3:2 pulldown added when encoded to make the movie an interlaced 29.97 fps movie.

I'm not sure how your DVcam works. It may capture to progressive frames and then add it's own pulldown in which case you would then use IVTC(Inverse telecine) to reverse this which would give you back a 23.976 progressive movie and should rid you of any interlacing problems thereby giving you a better quality image.

ASHY

If I want the very best quality mpeg2 file to burn to a DVD-R, is the DVD-NTSC template the thing to use? Should any filters (noise, etc.) be selected? (I noted when going through the wizard to make a VCD it said the noise filter usually resulted in a better compression product).

Overall question is what are the settings I need to produce the best video possible (with no regard to file size or time to compress?

Same question for mpeg 1 to play on a PC: What are ideal settings?

Thanks,

Oscar

If you want the best quailty and don"t care about size or time,there are a few general things you can do but each file has it own characteristics that warent different settings..but what i would do is do a 2 pass vbr with minimum of 3000kbs max of 9000kbs and average of 7000kbs, use the noise filter, choose the de-interlace option to the setting that looks best, I usualy try a few different configurations and encode a couple of minutes of my movie in a scene with lots of movement and see which ones look best..I spend more time trying to find the best settings than time encodeing, but I"m a bit of a perfectionist and hate it when you know that your movie could have looked better..so it is a lot of trial and error.....

Thanks Minion! That's exactly the kind of information I was looking for. I am currently trying a test run with 2 pass, noise filter, VBR, and rate of 6,000. But the idea of doing 20 seconds or so with several settings sounds like the best way to go.

thanks!

Will 9000 kbps video always be a legal rate for DVD ?
According to this spec http://www.panoramafirm.com.pl/serwis/dvd/faq/dvdvid.pdf
and also this info http://www.linuxtv.org/dvd/html/nemec_dvd.html
the max DVD stream data rate is 9.8 Mb/s for video+audio+subpictures (subtitles?) and 10.08 Mbps overall max including control data. I had always been using 8000 kbps as the maximum, because I seem to recall having playback trouble with a test using 9000 kbps video. Is it just my player? I assume it depends what audio bitrate you choose also (I used the max 384kbps, MPEG1 layer 2 because my audio track (music) is critical).

hi...i want to set the DC Compression to 10 because it is at 8 right now but i can't do it..everything seems to start out fine.....i hit load and go into Extra and then double click Unlock Tenplate and change the number from 8 to 10 in DC Compression...however, when in go to File and chose Project Wizard and then chose Ntsc Film and do everything i am supposed to on how to make a svcd movie the DC compression go back to 8....how do i put this to 10 when i'm ready to encode..thank you and have a nice day

You have to unlock it after you have chosen a template and then change it to 10 not before.

ASHY

hi ...i loaded the NTSC film template and then i loaded the Unlock template but i still have a problem i; can't not get into the Source Range section to use the "Start frame and End Frame" UNLESS i close all that and load the Project Wizard which will bring me to the Source Range section but the DC Compression will go back to 8.. thank you...PS i've been using DC Compression 8 to make svcd but you're supposed to use 10...what i want to ask is if there's is a loss in picture quality and is it ok to use 8 with svcd movies...Please help

Actually it depends on the type of movie which DC precision setting you use, but I always use 10 anyway and I doubt you would notice the difference with SVCD.

What do you mean you cant get into the source range section?

All you have to do is load your template then load the unlock.mcf template to unlock the settings then to to use the 'source range' filter just double click it and it will open.
Or the other way around is to set up the movie with the project wizard and then unlock it with the unlock template and change the DC setting.

ASHY

Hello,
Some time when i tried to encode a Divx, i choose the source and TMPGenc give directly the audio. In my case for some divx, i cannot have the audio. When i tried to load audio manually, he say : cannot open or not support !!
I have de Divx codec 4.12 and on my second pc thjis same divx pass !!!!
Can you explain me why ??
I try to find a solution, but realy i don't have...
The configuration is exactly the same ...

If you need some other info, you can contact me.
Sorry for English, is not my natural language ...

Thanks a lot
Bruno

It is possible the audio is VBR mp3 or ac3 which TMPG doesn't like unless you have the correct codecs installed to decode it, which is probably why it works on your other PC.
Try extracting the audio to wav with Virtualdub and load that as your audio source.

ASHY

Yes, I had the same problem. The reason is Bill Gates :)

MS Media Player installs Fraunhofer Layer 3 Codec by strange way : codec is present in Control Panel-Multimedia-Devices, but does not work in Video For Windows subsystem. So it is impossible to use it in any VFW-based apps, such as TMGEnc, VirtualDub or even MS Active Movie (mplayer.exe)

How to solve : find Radium MP3 Codec (hacked Fraunhofer) and install it. It is the same Fraunhofer MPEG Layer3, but it installs correctly.

The simplest way to find codec is typing "ra-codec12.zip" in any FTP search engine such as www.filesearch.ru.

Hi,

I am converting a lot of 352x240 23,97 fps to 352x288 PAL 25 fps. On my system as it was yesterday, it did 1 second of video in about 5 seconds. I had a lot of different mpg codecs installed on that PC , but I had to re-install because of a softwareproblem.
I did a clean install, installed only the necessary software and TMPeg and Virtual Dub.
I restarted the encoding and now it takes about 30 seconds to encode 1 second of video.
What can be the problem here ?

Aart

Make sure you haven't got the Motion search precision setting to 'high' or 'highest'.
Check to make sure you are not doing a 2 pass encode and go to the enviromental settings and check if the SSE and MMX optimizations are checked.

ASHY

Oh and as a tip.
You will find that if you change the framerate of a movie with TMPG for example from 23.976 fps to 25 fps, you will notice that the movie has little jerks when it plays.
You can't just change the framerate as simply as that.

ASHY

>Make sure you haven't got the Motion search precision setting to 'high' or 'highest'.
>Check to make sure you are not doing a 2 pass encode and go to the enviromental settings and check if the SSE and MMX optimizations are checked.
>
>ASHY

Motion search : normal
No 2 pass encoding and SSE and MMX are both ON.
Actually.... the settings are still as they were before I had to re-install.

>Oh and as a tip.
>You will find that if you change the framerate of a movie with TMPG for example from 23.976 fps to 25 fps, you will notice that the movie has little jerks when it plays.
>You can't just change the framerate as simply as that.
>
>ASHY

I just have downloaded a lot (more than 400) mpg's which are all between 2 and 25 MB each. They are in NTSC 23.976 fps format and all have different soundstreams. I want them all to be PAL VCD compatible. I converted more than 300 already and must say that I didn't notice the little jerks on my standalone DVD player in the smaller files. In the longer ones there are every now and then a few jerks, but considering the content of the files (ahum !) that's not a problem :-)

Aart

Are these MPEGs MPEG1 or MPEG2?
If I was you I would completely delete TMPG from my system and re-install the new version again.
Also check to make sure you don't have any filters checked. Some of these can slow down your encoding considerably.

30 secs for 1 sec of video is far to long.
What are your system specs?

ASHY

>Are these MPEGs MPEG1 or MPEG2?

MPEG 1 >>>> see first post

>If I was you I would completely delete TMPG from my system and re-install the new version again.

I will try that coming evening.

>Also check to make sure you don't have any filters checked. Some of these can slow down your encoding considerably.
>

No filters are used.

>30 secs for 1 sec of video is far to long.
>What are your system specs?
>

Pentium III 500 Mhz with 384 MB Ram.

>ASHY

Some extra information :
Before I re-installed I had several encoders and editing software on the system.
A few of these titles : Panasonic Encoder, Divx 5, Ulead Media Studio, Ulead Picture Show, Win DVD, M1 and M2 Edit pro, DVMpeg, Roxio Videopack, complete Dr. Mercury Videopack, DVDx 1.8 and I think I forgot a few.
Is it possible that one of these programs/codecs influence the speed of TMPeg in a positive way ?

Aart

I'm not being funny about this, but nowhere in your first post does it state your MPEG's are MPEG1. It only gives the frame sizes which could be either MPEG1 or MPEG2.

Anyway I think there is a problem with your system if re-installing TMPG doesn't work.

I doubt any other programs you had installed prior to re-installing your system would have influenced the speed of encoding as I used to have a P3 500 with 128mb and encoding a movie would take about 4 or 5 times longer than the length of the original movie.
So a 1 second clip would take 4-5 secs to encode which is the speed you originally had and I didn't have the programs you had installed.

ASHY

>I'm not being funny about this, but nowhere in your first post does it state your MPEG's are MPEG1. It only gives the frame sizes which could be either MPEG1 or MPEG2.
>

You're correct. Because I only work with VCD or SVCD compatible mpegs, I forgot that you can encode them different too ! Sorry !

>Anyway I think there is a problem with your system if re-installing TMPG doesn't work.
>
>I doubt any other programs you had installed prior to re-installing your system would have influenced the speed of encoding as I used to have a P3 500 with 128mb and encoding a movie would take about 4 or 5 times longer than the length of the original movie.
>So a 1 second clip would take 4-5 secs to encode which is the speed you originally had and I didn't have the programs you had installed.
>
>ASHY
>
>

Okay, the mystery continues.......
This morning I re-installed M1 and M2 edit and I changed one setting in TMPeg : I made the temporary, input hd and output hd all the same.
And......... the speed was back !!!!

I saw that by installing M2 edit, some of the files of DirectX (8.1 !) were overwritten.
Could that be the solution or was the drive change in TMPeg the solution ?

I will put back the drive options as they originally were.....
temporary : C
input : E
output : D

And let you know what happens.....

But not now...... busy encoding at full speed again :-)

best wishes,

Aart

I would guess it's the drive change and would suspect that your input drive E: or your output D: is a slow drive or they are on the same IDE channel.
This doesn't work because the information to and from both drives still has to travel up and down the same channel and cable and one has to wait for the other slowing down the transmission between the two.

If that's the case I would install the input and output on different channels.

Which did you change to?

ASHY

>I would guess it's the drive change and would suspect that your input drive E: or your output D: is a slow drive or they are on the same IDE channel.
>This doesn't work because the information to and from both drives still has to travel up and down the same channel and cable and one has to wait for the other slowing down the transmission between the two.
>
>If that's the case I would install the input and output on different channels.
>
>Which did you change to?
>
>ASHY

Changed all to E:
Did a check a few minutes ago and indeed it was the drive change !

Perhaps something to mention in the FAQ ?

Well, I am at least glad the problem is over !

Thanks for the help !

kind regards,

Aart

Tmpge now recongnizes the .D2V but it is still saying it is unsupported
is there a setting to change or somethig

please help

Thanx

What do mean it recognizes it, but it still says unsupported.
It wouldn't load in the first place if it wasn't supported.
You are obviously doing something wrong somewhere.

Post the steps you are taking to load the file.
Start from when you first rip the VOBS to your hard drive and be detailed.

ASHY

Please refrain from double posting on the same subject. It gets highly confusing and is unecessary.
Stick to the same thread your problem will still be answered.

ASHY

if ur useing DVD2AVI to make them .dv2 and ac3 .wav files try reinstalling DVD2AVI or TMPGenc or hell reinstall both of them. worked for me. something about the .vfp file cant be moved from the directory causes the problem

If you're using DVD2AVI then the problem goes away if you install both programs in the same directory.

The reason for that NewtronX is because you only need the DVD2AVI.VFP in the same directory as TMPGenc.exe

ASHY

Sorry correction Newton.

ASHY

I have done everything right and the dv2 file shows up in TMPG, but when I click it TMPG says it is an unsupported file type. I have done everything right, but it still doesn't work. WHATS UP WITH THAT?

Have a look at the post above for a possible solution.

ASHY

i've made a mpeg2-file with TMPGenc 2.54a, MPEG-2 480x576 25fps VBR 1600kbps, Layer-2 44100Hz 128kbps.
now i'm trying to cut it with the mpeg-tools, but the slider at the edit-sheet don't let me move through the file. If i enter a start- or endtime manually, the program writes the hole file, not the range i've specified ... what am i doing wrong?

Your probably not doing anything wrong, the "cut" function does this quite often,my advice is to use different software to cut your mpeg"s, or use the source range while encodeing so you can encode your movie in parts...

Thank you!