Hey all, this is sort of a TMPGEnc question, but not exclusively.

I've been using Graphedit to convert .ogm's to .avi's, but lately I've been having problems, so what I did was split up the video and audio, in order to have TMPGEnc recombine them. What I did in Graphedit was name.ogm>ogg splitter>vorbis decoder>wav dest>name.wav. Now, the .wav file seems to play ok in Winamp, but when I choose it as my audio source file in TMPGEenc, I get the "...can not open, or unsupported" message. Is there another program that I have to run the .wav through, so TMPGEnc will recognize it? The audio codec in the original .ogm file is Ogg Vorbic, btw.

Thanks in advance!

You can try going to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the Priority of the "Wav File reader" , but if that doesn"t work then there Might be a Problem with the audio, maybe there isn"t a Proper Wav header in the File, Maybe try useing "Headac3e" to decode the Vorbis to Wav, "Headac3he" allways Makes Good Workable Wav files for me...

Given the slowness of this whole process, it would be great if there were a way to pause an encoding project and continue it later. I of course haven't a clue as to how difficult such a thing would be to program!

You can pause it ,Sort of, You can press Stop and when it asks you to abort encodeing you just don"t answer and the you can go do something else and later come back to it and Press NO , then the encodeing will resume like usual.But you can"t shut down Tmpgenc your you computer till later and start it back up..

I am trying to test tmpgenc on my new system which is a P4 2.53Ghz with an adaptater Geforce4 32Mb with windows XP (SP 1)
I am using Divx 5.0.3
I am trying to encode a 70 minutes avi divx file into an mpeg
And it is very slow, tmpgenc says that it will take more than 22 hours (with noise reduction in high quality mode)
I try before on a P3 800Mhz and it takes less time (16 hours).
Is someone can help ?

This sounds about right for the settings you are using. I doubt it used to take less than 16 hours with these settings on your P3 800mhz. On my P4 1.9 it takes about 28 hrs to encode a 2 hr movie using those settings.

Is it really necessary to use Noise rsdeuction in 'high quality' mode? This will more than double the encoding time. Do you even have to use it at all. What is the source?

If you really do need to use a noise reduction filter, why not try Virtualdub or AVisynth's filters which are much faster than TMPG and frame serve.

Also remeber that using the 'Motion search precision' in 'High quality mode' will also increase the encode time. Using 'Highest' will dramatically increase the time with no visible benefit.

ASHY

Now that Avisynth 2.5 is stable and there are a lot of filters that support YV12, would it be possible to add YV12 support in TMPGEnc? The speed increase would be huge (I'd estimate 20-35% faster) since there would be no need to convert to RGB24 in TMPGEnc and then convert back to YV12 for the final MPEG stream. This YV12->RGB24->YV12 conversion is obviously not necessary and does lower the quality too.

Forget about this one? I'ts like banging your head against a wall.
I have asked this repeatedly many times now to no avail. Every time a new version comes out I hope for a re-write in the code which will use YUY2 decoding. I understand that this is a major thing to change in the code and is probably why support hasn't been added yet, but it's about time it was added.
I agree it would make a major increase in the speed and is one thing which is holding TMPG back.
Most codecs now support YUY2, so it's about time TMPG got with it and started supporting it.

ASHY

I am trying to test tmpgenc on my new system which is a P4 2.53Ghz with an adaptater Geforce4 32Mb with windows XP (SP 1)
I am using Divx 5.0.3
I am trying to encode a 70 minutes avi divx file into an mpeg
And it is very slow, tmpgenc says that it will take more than 22 hours (with noise reduction in high quality mode)
I try before on a P3 800Mhz and it takes less time (16 hours).
Is someone can help ?

Take a look at your "Task priority" of "Option".
"When active - High priority" should be checked.
And notice that the filter "Noice reduction" in high quality mode will
take lots of time if the resolution of the movie is high.

I try it and it is the same .

this may sound weird... but usually i can always convert my files either if it's avi, asf/wmv or whatever to mpeg, but all of a sudden i can not convert most of my asf files... whats going on? everytime i try to convert an error pops up saying "TMPGEnc.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience" can anyone help me? i tried converting some of the asf files that i've already done in the past with success just to test it out and the same error pops out (when it didn't in the past). can anyone help? have anyone even ever encounter this? HELP please.

Have you recently installed any software? For example any codecs or Mediaplayer9?

ASHY

actually yes... i just downloaded the recent windows media player... could that be it??? if this is the problem, what can i do????

Roll back your system using sytem restore to a time befor you installed mediaplayer 9.

ASHY

okay i did that. the media player went back to the old version, but it's still not working... is there something else i'm suppose to do?

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Hi. I just started working with this program today. When I try to run a AVI though it, it finishes in about 3 seconds even though the AVI is over 5 gigs. Also, the .mpg it makes is 2000 kbs or under each time. I looked through the FAQ and I could'nt find an answer, any help?

I don"t know what the Problem is but it seems that Tmpgenc doesn"t like your AVI file..Try encodeing a Different file and see if that works,and if it does you then know that it is the File..

As title, I tried many posibilities of settings on TMPGEnc to make the quality of my mpeg file(for burning VCD) can catch up with the VCD I bought, but I failed.

The following is the situation,
I watch the movies and they are just perfect.
I made two same 3D movies by trueSpace in AVI uncompressed format.
The resolution of the movies are 704 x 480 and 720 x 480.
I use TMPGEnc to encode these movies to VCD format after loaded "VideoCD (NTSC).mcf" file.
No filters and no setting has changed.
I also tried "Quantize Matrix" set to "CG/Animation".

The result is,
these mpeg files are suitable for VCD format, but terribly lost their qualities.
Saw-toothed and blurred frames made me disappointed.
I wish someone help me to solve this problem, and...
ANYBODY TELL ME CAN "TMPGEnc" ENCODE HIGH QUALITY VCD MOVIES LIKE
"20th FOX ANIMATION"(ALWAYS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVIES)?
Thanks a lot.

Plus one info.
The frame rate of 3D movies I made is 30 fps.

There is No such thing as High Quality VCD"s, VCD is a Low Quality Format and makeing a Standard VCD will allways turn out with Blockyness especially when there is High Motion..The only way to achieve High Quality is to go out of the VCD Standard, the Bitrate is Way to low in a Standard VCD to achieve any sort of Quality so to increase the Quality you have to increase the Bitrate which in turn will give you less amount of Minutes on a CD-R, or Maybe consider doing SVCD"s, the Quality of SVCD"s is over 2 times as high as VCD, mainly because SVCD has over 2 times the Bitrate and resolution as VCD..If you raised the Bitrate of your VCD"s to say 1600kbs you will greatly improove the Quality of the Image and still get close to an hour on a CD-R...

Do you mean if I raise the bitrate of the VCD's to say 1600kbps, the quality of the movie will be more better than before, and the VCD "still can play smoothly on the VCD player without lagging or something"?
'Cause I don't have a VCD player on hand, so it's hard to know if this way will work on it, but if it's worked, the problem will be solved!!
Thanks a lot.

First of all DO NOT use media player, or as for that matter any other software player on your PC to judge what you see.

Media player is terrible at rendering the VCD format because of the low resolution. The Saw-toothed images always happen at this resolution on your PC. I guess you are using Windows XP/Windows 2000. Windows Me/98 used to Anti- alias movies, but in WIndows XP/2000 this doesn't happen. Your movie will look much better on your DVD player and the saw tooth effect will disappear as it should be Anti-aliased by the player.

As for blurry frames, this is just an effect of low resolution. You could try to sharpen the input before encoding by using TMPPG's filters, this will improve it slightly. Again though the movie will look much better on your hardware player than on your PC.

Raising the bitrate won't really improve these animated images that much. The only way to really improve the image is to use a higher resolution and bitrate. SVCD will look much better. Also a few DVD players will play out of standard VCD's with a resolution of 704 x 480 and 720 x 480 and higher bitrates.
If your player is capable of SVCD then it should have no problem with with resolutions of 720x480 and 704x480.

ASHY

How may I contact the author? I was trying to find an email on the page but wasn't able to.

This is supposed to be Hori"s home page "http://www.tmpgenc.net/hori/" but good luck getting in touch with him or him even takeing you seriously cuz I"m sure he has all the help he needs.....

The only chance you have of contacting Mr. Hori is through Pegasys. All other links are defunct.
What is it you wish to contribute?

ASHY

i would be most appreciative if anyone can help me out with this problem i'm having.
thank you in advance!
here's my situation. . .
i am "ripping" from a DVD.
i am using flaskmpeg to covert the dvd files to avi files so i can edit them in adobe premiere and then re-encode them for burning on a new DVD.
i am using uncompressed avi files to preserve quality.
the results have been sensational for my purposes except for one thing. . .
after re-encoding with TMPGE, the audio and video seem to drift out of synch.
i've checked the original avi before encoding and the synch is perfect.
the problem exists only after encoding back mpeg-2.
in fact, i'm finding that even if i use the original avi in TMPGE, there's still a drifting issue.
i've even imported a separate wav file as the audio source, created in virtual dub from the original avi with the same result.
the show is only ten minutes long (out of print music performances from a raw source that I wanted to "polish" up).

any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

andy

Firstly why are you doing it this way? Your method is a long way round and Flask is now an outdated program which most people have moved on from.

There is no need to create this intermediate AVI.
Just use DVD2AVI to create a d2v project file from the VOBS then use the VFAPI converter to create a dummy AVI and load into Premier then use the Video server plugin to export to TMPG.

Details can be found here on the plugin:
http://www.videotools.net/index.php?rub=guides&htm=premiere_tmpgenc.htm

ASHY

I sincerely appreciate your help. . .
i downloaded DVD2AVI.
i'm having difficulties creating this dummy avi.
would you be so kind as to enumerate the procedure?
once again, many many thanks!!

andy

I sincerely appreciate your help. . .
i downloaded DVD2AVI.
i'm having difficulties creating this dummy avi.
would you be so kind as to enumerate the procedure?
once again, many many thanks!!

andy

To make a Dummy AVI out of a D2V file you will need to Download the "Vfapi Converter" then install the Vfapi Codec, then you can load in the D2V file into the Vfapi Converter and click "convert" and it will make a AVI file with No audio, then you can load the AVI into Premier and use the Audio extracted with DVD2AVI as the Audio track, then do your editing and arrange everything on the Timeline the way you want then you can either use the Video Server plugin to evport the File to Tmpgenc or Use one of the Many Mpeg encoder Plugins for Premier like CCE or Procoder or MainConcept....

Here is a gude how to use DVD2AVI with the VFAPI converter.
http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/DVD2AVI.htm

ASHY

I am trying to add subtitles to an avi movie using VirtualDub and TMPGenc.I followed the tutorial on dvdrhelp.com but have the following problem.After creating a vdr file with VirtualDub I should open it with TMPGenc.But it can't be opened with this program.I have tried several other movie and subtitle files.I do have the right system and memory and processing time,so that shouldn't be the problem.Anyone out there who wants to help?I'd really appreciate it.

First Make sure you installed the V-Dub Handler, without the Handler installed the Frame serveing will not work, it is easy if you haven"t allready done so, just run the "AuxSetup.exe" file in the V-Dub folder, then click "Install Handler" and Press OK, then if it doesn"t work try dis-ableing the "Direct Show File Reader" in the "Vfapi Plugins" in Tmpgenc, this should work, and to make sure that everything is set up Properly open another instance of V-Dub and load in the "VDR" file and see if it is displayed in the V-Dub window, if it shows up then every thing is set up correctly...

Can anyone tell me the best setting for making a DivX downloaded movie back into a DVD-r.

Thanks, Steven

Why do people ask this?
There is no such thing as a 'best setting'. It all depends on your needs and what you perceive as being best. What one psrson thinks is best is not necessarily what the next person thinks.
Also just asking this sort of question without giving any info on the source is almost impossible to answer. Give us more info. I.E. It's frame rate, it's resolution, the audio format and so on and we may be able to give you some guidelines, but in the end it's gonna be up to you how you continue.

ASHY

Ok I'll try this again.

I have downloaded Divx DVD movies that I want to burn to DVD-r. I currently use the SVCD standard of :

Mpg2
480x480
cq 65%
2500-4000

What should I change to make copies to burn to DVD's? Or should I use the Standard DVD settings that came with the program?

As these setting will only make 2 files 700mb. Should I increase the cq to 100% and 4000-4000.....

Steven

Before re-encoding anything try this method which works in most players.
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/svcddvdr.htm

ASHY

Ok forget that, I just re-read your reply.
As for using TMPG the standard template settings should be more than enough, but do not re-encode the audio if it is Ac3. Just de-multiplex it from the AVI and import it into your DVD authoring program with your movie.

ASHY

>As these setting will only make 2 files 700mb. Should I increase the cq to 100% and 4000-4000.....

What?
That setting is totally pointless as it's practically a CBR encoding at 4000. DVD Allows VBR encoding and is the best way to go. Having the miniumum at 4000 is just wasting valuable bitrate which should be used for more complicated scenes which require higher bitrates.

Commercial DVD's are encoded using a bitrate of 2000 kb/s min to 9800 kb's max. The TMPG template uses 2000 kb/s to 8000 kb/s so should suit your needs, but you still didn't give me any more info than you gave in the first post.
It's no good telling me what format you used to encode to. It is the format of the source AVI which is important.

Read my first post again and this time be clear about the AVI's format.

ASHY

Another thing you got to realize is that Not all files are Suited for makeing Standard DVD"s out of..If the AVI file you have has a Really Low resolution like "352+240" then this File would not make a Good Standard DVD because you would have to resize the image up to "720+480/576-Pal" which would make you loose a Lot of Detail and definition, But there are other DVD Standards that you can use Like "352+240/288" and "352+480/576", these standards are more suited to files that have a Low resolution..You should go to "http://www.dvdrhelp.com/" and read up a Bunch on DVD standarts and Makeing DVD"s, you will find the Info very usefull...