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Now, i'm pretty new at this, so, don't be to mean! :D
I have a pair of DVD Screeners, Coded in XviD, and i use the TMPGEnc tool, and i wanna convert to VCD/SVCD. Now, it works great converting, but when i watch it, it kind of lags, and i've chanced the bitrate and everything, and i wanna have it in PAL, and the best qualtity as possible, and i also want it to look, well, maybe impossible, but just as the real copy.
Now, how do i do?
Really apriciate, or how it now spells, every kind of advice.
observe: My Computer is an P3 800 MHz, 384 MB SDRam, GF 2 32 MB.
first off converting from a standard VCD 1150 bitrate to a svcd WILL NOT IMPROVE quality at all the quality will stay the same as the original even though the file will be much bigger.
In my experience I was surprised most xvid and divx files have a bitrate of 900-1100 bitrate so making a mpg/vcd of them will give the same exact video with no quality loss.
You should only make an SVCD when you have the original DVD file which can be 300 bitrate or so and then you would want to make an SVCD of 2400 bitrate or so as to not lose any quality.
But if you have a screener etc. no matter how good the quality looks it is only a maximum of about 1300 bitrate for divx/xvid and in my opinion a vcd will look almost exactly like the original divx at least my previous encodes do.
as it has been said before "garbage in->garbage out" but pretty much it will never really benefit you or improve a video file if you raise the bitrate over what the first/original video file bitrate is when converting the file.
So you can see for yourself try encoding a small part like a minute or so of the divx file into a vcd and an SVCD so you can see if there is a difference in quality. Preferably a high motion scene.
AVi Bitrates and Mpeg bitates have absolutly no corelation to each other, so saying an AVI/Divx file with a Bitrate of 1100kbs encoded to Mpeg at 1100kbs will have No Quality loss it Totally Wrong!!When encodeing Any file to Mpeg no matter what Bitrate you use will ALLWAYS have some Quality Loss, That is the Nature of Compression..Most compression Methods are Lossy so no matter what you do you will have a Loss of Video infomation..So if you have a Standard VCD and you want to make a SVCD out of it, the SVCD will allways have less Quality than the original VCD, so you are Better off keeping the VCD as it is...
Yes, don't post questions as bug reports! This is your error NOT the programs.
>Now, it works great converting, but when i watch it, it kind of lags, and i've chanced the bitrate and everything, and i wanna have it in PAL
What do you mean? Are you referring to a jerky motion when played back?
This is because you have tried to convert the original fram rate to a new one with TMPG. TMPG will not do this correctly and will give you jerky results.
Hi Ashy
I got it sorted, d/l and installed new quartz.dll file, turned off all power settings and background programs, and didn't touch machine while it encoded it worked perfectly. Only taken me a month with various problems but very happy with finished results!
Jo
I am confused as to which setting I should use under "source aspect ratio" and hoping someone can help. The help file didn't give me much help and searching the sources on the web gave no final answer either.
My source material is 4:3 DV Avi at 720 x 576 PAL. I want to create SVCD and DVD-files (Mpeg-2).
Using the wizard, TMPGEnc automatically selects "4:3 625 line (PAL 704 x 576)", but I'm wondering if "4:3 625 line (PAL)" is the correct setting for my material?
How much of a difference will setting "4:3 625 line (PAL 704 x 576)" or "4:3 625 line (PAL)" make on the Aspect Ratio on the final Mpeg?
Tmpgenc will usually analize the Source file and set the "Source Aspect Ratio" for you so if it automaticle sets it to that then that is Probably what the source aspect ratio is, Just encode it and see if it looks the way you want...
My source files are 720 x 576. Not 704 x 576. I don't know what the AR difference is between these two resolutions. But it can't be too much.
I have encoded two files, one using "4:3 625 line (PAL 704 x 576)" and the other with "4:3 625 line (PAL)" and I could not see a difference with my bare eyes. I'd like to know for sure which one the author of TMPGEnc intended for use with 720 x 576 PAl files, though...
Thanks.
But which one is correct for 4:3 PAL DV material at 720 x 576?
If there is a difference, there must also be one setting that is right and one that is not..
You should choose 4:3 625 line (PAL) for 4:3 720x576 sources not 4:3 625 line (PAL 704 x 576)
TMPG always seems to choose the wrong setting for this, but this causes a slight aspect ratio problem when encoding to VCD/SVCD because an 8 pixel padding region is added to either side of the video.
I don't really want to go into detail why, but for encoding 720x576 to SVCD/VCD 4:3 625 line (PAL)is the correct setting.
Sorry I need to correct myself here. I got this sorted out a while ago and I've got myself a bit mixed up.
I've just done some tests and what I just told should be the other way around.
If TMPG chooses 4:3 625 line (PAL 704 x 576) for your 720x576 source then this is correct not 4:3 625 line (PAL).
It is 4:3 625 line (PAL) which causes a slight aspect ratio problem when encoding to SVCD/DVD because an 8 pixel padding region is added to either side of the video.
You can see this effect in mediaplayer 7/8.
Encode 2 small test mpegs, one using 4:3 625 line (PAL 704 x 576) and the other 4:3 625 line (PAL).
Play your source movie in media player 7/8 at full screen and mark with your finger the edge of the image.
Now play your test encodes.
You will notice the first setting should more or less create an image exactly the same width as your source, but the latter setting creates a slightly narrower image than the source. To be exact 8 pixels either side narrower.
Hope this hasn't confused you cuz I nearly got myself a little confused with it.
I know the quality of the encoded mpg can never be as good as the avi, but i was wondering if there is a way other than increasing the bitrate, making the mpg as smooth as possible. I've tried messing about with the VFAPI settings, and that hasn't helped a great deal!
Could you please tell me possible methods of making my mpgs smooth. The mpg will be burnt to vcd, and must be playable on a PAL system.
What do you mean by "Smooth"?? Does the File Play sort of Jumpy?? Make sure that your Source file is a Pal File cuz you can"t use Tmpgenc to encode a NTSC file to a Pal Mpeg file, doing so will cause your File to play Jumpy...
Don't throw all of Mpeg into the VCD bitrate catagory. The standard covers quality levels which far exceed any common AVI formats (high definition, etc).
It is a shame that even video professionals cling to the myth that DV is higher quality than Mpeg. This has hindered the development of a 4:2:2 consumer camera format which, at 15Mbs, would be better than 25Mbs DV.
I just encoded an avi file to mpeg. I even selected the option shut down after finised encoding. Reason, I previously encoded the same file and when I tried to play it I could not get it to start. It seemed to be stuck on the last frame at the end of the movie but recognizing it as the start point. I know the entire movie was encoded since the final output size is 695 MB, but it will not start. I was using version 2.58.44.152, I just downloaded the upgrade v2.510.49 hopefully this is the fix to this problem. Can anyone tell me what happened or who I can fix this problem?
When i try to convert from avis acquired by my pinnacle DV500 i get a lot of error windows like:
(X) at address xxxxxxx, read error occurred against address xxxxx
^ big white X in red circle background :D
Then program crashes.
What can i do to avoid this? Do you think it will be useful to install canopus DV codec?
thank you!
i have been trying to get an mpeg to burn properly for weeks now, it plays fine on the pc but keeps pausing when i burn to disc and play on the dvd player.
VCDEASY tells me its a non-mpeg1 audio stream (48000hz should be 44100)
also not the correct PAL format.
so i demuxed and put the audio and video in the source windows and went to settings/video and resized the pixels, went to audio and changed it to 44100 then hit start and nearly 4 hours later played it on the pc and it looks great.....except the video seems to lock up 10 minutes before the end while the audio keeps playing....WHY !!!!!!!
I cant understand why i cant burn something to disc (SVCD) that plays perfectly on the PC
Help please
If you just want to play it on your PC then why Make a SVCD??? if you are just going to watch it on your PC then you would be better off keeping it in the Format that it is allready in...and Usually Problems with the Frames freezing in the Mpeg file are due to Problems in the Source file not tmpgenc, and you will probably say that "the File plays fine on my PC so there can"t be anything wrong with the AVI file" but that doesn"t really matter, Media Players are made to skip over errors in Files were the encoder analizes every single frame and all it takes is one Bad frame and it can lock up on that one frame...
o.k thanks for reply, i tried to check it with mpeg corrector but it left an mpeg that i could do nothing with (realplayer told me i had no memory, vcdeasy wouldn't load it)
what would you recommend i check/fix it with ?
i don't want to keep it on the pc
o.k thanks for reply, i tried to check it with mpeg corrector but it left an mpeg that i could do nothing with (realplayer told me i had no memory, vcdeasy wouldn't load it)
what would you recommend i check/fix it with ?
i don't want to keep it on the pc
Well then Just Burn the AVI to a Disk, and when you want to play it Just put it in your Disk drive and Play it..There is Nothing you can do to Fix the Mpeg file, You can try to Re-Encode the AVI to Mpeg if you want but there is No gaurantee that it will work this time either..
Can some please help me!!!!
I installed this encoder and get the fucken thing to work. This piece of shit computer I have might be the problem. I been working with it for 2 days now and still cant get this fucker to work! Any help would be fucken good cuz I lost hope. Sorry if I sound mad but im pissed off with all the fucken time I wasted trying to get this shit box working so I can fucken encode a file.
Some info on what the Problem is would be nice , that is if you want help...And I hope you don"t kiss your Mother with that mouth ,Foul language is NOT allowed here pissed off or not...
Having run Tmpgenc for a while now, after a crash during processing, Tmpgenc now wont start.
The problem began with the program starting and at starting processing it generated an error "Read error occured at address XXXXXXX of module KERNEL32.dll with XXXXXXX".
It has now progressed to the program not running at all. Upon starting the program an error of "Read error occured at address BF7A125 of module KERNEL32.dll with 0078FFAC".
I have tried all the usual things like deleting the program and reinstalling it, but with no result.
It sounds Like Possibly you have a corrupted File in your opperateing system, Go here : http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?kernel32 and download the Kernel32.dll file and replace it with the One on your Computer and see if that helps, If it doesn"t then I Don"t Know what it could be...
I've got 52 episodes of the sopranos, but 5 of them I have are ASF files and I cannot get audio out of them from tmpg or vdub. Vdub actually says they took asf capabilities out of the program because of a copyright infringement against microsoft. Any clues??????????
What I use to extract the audio from ASF/WMV files is to use "DB Power AMP" to extract it or use it to directly encode the audio to Mp2 audio, But make sure you download the appropriate DB Power AMP Codecs....
Just use virtualdub 1.3c and use direct stream copy for audio and video then save the file as an avi and u can use tmpgenc for the new avi file.It usually works flawlessly unless the asf is damaged or improperly encoded.
that version is easily available just search yahoo "virtualdub 1.3c"
I have tried the Virtual Dub ASF and I couldn"t get it to work with ASF files(Even though that is what it is supposed to be for) I kept getting a error something like "Couldn"t find Decompressor" or something, But if you want to try it you can get it here : http://www.apachez.net/
for some asf files u need a voxware codec for audio i think
the only way i could get that codec was by using real one player to play the file and then the codec was downloaded automatically so i could play the file.
You need the voxware codec to decompress the audio but if you can hear the audio from the file then you may already have the codec and the error you have is something else
Thanks for all the help guys. I followed minions first set of instructions and downloaded the db power amp codecs, restarted my computer, put the video back into tmpg and audio showed up. Glad I didn't have to use vdub, although i have downloaded 1.3 just in case. Minion are you the programmer of tmpg or what? you know everything, so you don't even need to be on this site, yet you've helped more people than i can imagine. Thanx for all the unselfishness.
ASF uses windows media audio which should be installed by default with mediaplayer.
You can use Graphedit to extract the audio to a wav if you know how to use it or ASF tools to convert it to AVI, but I would try DBpoweramp first.
I want to convert an avi to mpeg but when i set the avi file to the video
source it sais that the file is unsupported.
I tryed to raise the priority of the DirectShow Multimedia File Reader to 2
as suggested here but it crashed instead.
Try it at "1" instead of "2"..And if that doesn"t work then make sure you have the correct codec installed and you can try Frameserveing the File with "Virtual Dub", if the AVI File is a Xvid File then try installing the FFDshow Filter/Codec and it helps with Decodeing Xvid Files and DivX files : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=53761&release_id=131530 .