Are there instructions on how to use this program that are written for a non-nerd? Everyone in the BBS seems to know a lot more about this process than I do and I hope someone out there will be willing to point me in the right direction.

I am trying to get a good quality edited video out of the computer and back onto a VHS video tape. I started with a Dazzle USB program and it produced a very pixilated and jittery MPG 1 video. After almost a year of emails and phone calls to them, they told me about this site and that all I had to do was to run the edited video through this program and it would be fixed. In the meantime, while waiting for their last response, I started working with ULEAD Video Studio 6 and discovered it promised to produce an edited movie in MPG 2. A test of this program produced a movie that has what looks like a fine grain texture moving over the entire video image. I would prefer to use the MPG 2 because of the better image resolution in the finished product. The step I am missing is how to process the edited video to clean up the image ready to output to tape and I'm not sure if this program will even do it.

My computer is a no-name, P4 with I GB RAM on a SOYO SY-P4ISR motherboard and running Windows XP Home. The video card is an ATI All In Wonder RADEON 7500.

The video sources are from a Sony Hi8 camcorder and a standard VHS tape.

Thanks in advance for any guidance/suggestions offered.

L Miller

If you are outputting the Video back to Video tape then there is No need to use Mpeg at all..Encodeing your movies to mpeg will only degrade the quality of the resulting file...You should capture to AVI and edit then record beck to VHS tape in AVI, Outputting the finnished product to mpeg1/2 will just Ruin the quality Cuz Mpeg is a Lossy Format and you can keep AVI in a Lossless format which means that you don"t loose quality if you keep it in AVI preferably Uncompressed or DV/AVI..Mpeg is only usefull if you are putting the finnished Product on a VCD/SVCD/DVD,and there will allways be Quality degradation encodeing to Mpeg so if there is no need to encode to mpeg then don"t cuz the quality will allways be better in the source AVI then in the encoded mpeg....

Hey all.

Does anyone know of any good tutorials or sites out there which describe video formats and encoding in depth. I'm not really new to all this stuff (always been able to hack my way around encoding problems), but I want to know more about stuff like "gop structures, i-frames,.....etc.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

-jim

Hi Guys,

I really need some help this time , because its driving me nuts.
I lost all my data and needed to reinstall everything but now when i reinstall tmpg enc again i keep getting the following errors.

nr.1 Exception EAccessViolation in module ntdll.dll at 0004B9AE
Write error occurred at address 77FCB9AE of module ntdll.dll with
00000000

And then the program shuts down and it says :
Runtime Error 216 at 00053944

Tried it with TMPG enc 2.02 and 2.57 and 2.59 and i keep getting these errors.

I also get some error with ACM or something sometimes

Plz let me know , because i can't work without this program , without TMPGenc why do i need a computer ??

Grtz Mark

You said that this happens with every version you try,So the Problem is one of 2 things,If you used the same file with the different versions of Tmpgenc then it could be the file, but if this error comes up with every file then the problem can be with your System..You can allways Try a Different encoder,and see if they have problems with your file, There are encoders that are just as good as Tmpgenc in the Quality department,and if they have a problem then you will know there is a problem with the file..The other error you are getting with the "ACM" is a error with the "Audio Compression Manager" so there can be a Problem with the audio in the file that is giveing you the problems...

You are probably trying to convert an avi with an XVID codec. I downloaded the Nimo codec pack and it still didn't help. Download this codec it works better.

http://nic.dnsalias.com/XviD_Install.exe

I would love to take credit for that bit of advise but I got it from someelse one this board in an earlier thread. (Thanks Ell-Ess-Dee you saved me alot of headache.)


I also noticed that if you restart TMPG it sometimes saves the old file info in it. This seems to cause the error as well. If you still get the error after installing the new codec, make sure to click file new and then click yes when it asks you if you want to reset the project.

I am trying to encode an mpeg2 of a computer graphics AVI test file I created. The ultimate destination is to play into a 1280x720P (native) digital video projector. I would like to use MPEG2 encoding to get the data rate down.

My test file is 1280x720 and the uncompressed AVI plays fine in WinMediaPlayer (albeit a bit slow do to the very large amount of data-appx 2gb in 30 sec-uncompressed).

I setup TMPGE as follows:
VIDEO:
Mpeg2
1280x720
16:9
29.97fps
CBR6000
MainProfile&Mail Level
NTSC
Interlace
4:2:0
8bits
Motion Est Search

ADVANCED
NonInterlace
16:9 Display
Center

GOP
1,5,2,1

When I try to encode, I get the error:

"This window size is not accepted by the selected MPEG-2 Level."

I have tried a number of different settings, but I cannot get around the error.

Can anyone offer a suggestion to move me ahead with this encode or am I trying to do something MPEG-2 (or TMPGE) is not setup to do? (I have searched the net but have not been able to find that MPEG cannot be used at this window size)

I am experimenting here and definitely beyond my knowledge of the standards. I appreciate any and all comments/suggestions!

Thank You!!!
Bruce

>"This window size is not accepted by the selected MPEG-2 Level."

The answer is already there for you.

You cannot use the framesize with MPEG2 level you have set.
You must set the 'Profile&Level' setting to 'Main profile & High level(MP&HL)'
You will find this under the 'Video' tab.

ASHY

ASHY,
Thank you very much for the assist. The High Level tweak was exactly the hurdle I needed to get over. My 2 Gb uncompressed (1280x720) file came down from 2.3Gb to 23Mb and plays quite nicely in WMediaPlayer.

One last question:

Can you recommend a learning resource that explains how to best use the "Profile and Level" settings in detail?

Sincerely,
Bruce

Have a look at http://viswiz.gmd.de/DVP/Public/deliv/deliv.211/mpeg/pr@lv01.htm

I have always used tmpgenc to lower the bitrate on vcds. However since the new upgrade to 2.59 the bitrate settings will not work. I have reverted to using a lower software edition of tmpgenc and have had no problems.

I believe it is safe to say that there is a software glitch that will not allow you to change to bitrate below 1150. Even though the bitrate calculator and project screen says that the bitrate is lower, the actual conversion no matter how low you set the rate, will always be 1150.

Hope this is fixed soon. I really love my tmpgenc.

This is a VERY Well Known bug in this Version if Tmpgenc and I"m sure that it will be fixed in the next version...

I cannot understand why anybody would want to lower the bitrate on a standard VCD. It will look just shite.

ASHY

Ive been encoding , but now Im getting a "can not obtain timer" message and my project has stopped... any ideas? suggestions? I dont want to lose everything Ive got this far. TIA

I am having problems getting the right audio streem from a .VoB file. When i try for the audio layers the default is comming up as layer 2. This layer will giv eme a Directors Discussion ofthe movie as it plays. When i select layer1 i always get an "encodeing" error around 34% of the way through.

Any suggestions for splitting the file to get and isolate multiple audio tracks would be welcome.

Posting repeatedly isn"t going to get your Question answered any Quicker, but might get you ignored...no Triple posting....

As far as im aware i did not post more then once.

If this message appeared more then once then i apologise as i never sent it more then once from the Web form.

All i am interested in is resloving the current problem with defining which audio streams are needed from a Vob file format.

Below is the stream info for the one i am working on:

***************
* Stream Info *
***************

Stream[001] X=[[0xE0] Video PAL 720x576] [] [] [] []
Stream[002] X=[[0x80] Audio English AC3(6Ch) 48kHz ] [] [] [] []
Stream[003] X=[[0x81] Audio Español AC3(6Ch) 48kHz ] [] [] [] []
Stream[004] X=[[0x82] Audio Japanese AC3(2Ch) 48kHz ] [] [] [] []
Stream[005] X=[[0x83] Audio English AC3(2Ch) 48kHz ] [] [] [] []
Stream[006] X=[[0x84] Audio English AC3(2Ch) 48kHz ] [] [] [] []
Stream[007] X=[[0x20] Subtitle English ] [] [] [] []
Stream[008] X=[[0x21] Subtitle Español ] [] [] [] []
Stream[009] X=[[0x22] Subtitle Portugues ] [] [] [] []
Stream[010] X=[[0x23] Subtitle English ] [] [] [] []
Stream[011] X=[[0x24] Subtitle Español ] [] [] [] []
Stream[012] X=[[0x25] Subtitle Español ] [] [] [] []
Stream[013] X=[[0x26] Subtitle Español ] [] [] [] []
Stream[014] X=[[0x??] Others] [] [] [] []

From the above information if i use the Wizard to create a PAL MPEG it will grab the PAL stream yet this picks up on the Directors commentary. Im giveing stream 2-80 a go at the moment. to see how it works.

Obioulsy im new to encoding video etc so if anyone has some suggestions on the best combination of the above and any methods people ahve found useful for this kind of thing.


Regards
Beriah

OK..The Correct Way to encode a DVD Rip is to Take the VOB file and Load it into DVD2AVI then you have to change some settings, you go to "Audio" and choose track #1, Cuz that is the english Track, go to "Dolby Digital" and Check "Decode" and "Dolby Surround Downmix" Now go to "Video" to "Color Space" and set it to "YUV" and go to "RGB=>YUV" and choose "TV Scale" now go to "File" and to "Save" Project" and Give the File a Name and Save it..Now it with Proscess the Audio that you will need to encode and it will Make a "D2V" file you Load the "D2V" file in to Tmpgenc for the VIDEO,and the WAV audio file in for the AUDIO and encode it..DO NOT LOAD THE VOB FILE IN FOR THE VIDEO..This is How you Rip a DVD to VCD/SVCD/DVD..You should go to the audio settings and Raise the Volume of the Audio Cuz DVD Audio is not very loud after it has been extracted..If you are still haveing problems you can e-mail me if you want...Good luck.

basic GOP structure IBBPBBPBBPBBPBBPBB. When cutting and joining in mpg tools, does the cut occur such that the join is between the last B of the first movie and the first I where the cut is in the 2nd movie? So a join will always be between a end B frame and I frame.In other words, mpeg tools only cuts between B and I no matter what frame u have chosen to cut at. The slider only does I frames i believe which is good...but the frame by frame buttons seem useless. Also, is this a general feature off all mpg cutters...that the cut cannot be anywhere else unless the movies are re-encoded? Just trying to get it all clear since i am unable to join 2 movies without the join being noticeable during playback. What freeware editor can cut and merge mpgs better than tmpg and with no re-encoding?:-)

oops....there are many different GOP structures......but i think the cut is always immediatly left of the I frame?

Mpeg files are supposed to be edited on an I Frame But Tmpgenc has been known to edit on other frames which usually causes a distinctive Beep Sound durring playback, and I believe the "Correct" Button is supposed to make sure that edits and joins are on the closest I frame..I don"t know of any freeware Mpeg editors that are any Good but there are a few non freeware ones..Power Director 2.5 pro has a Really good and fast Mpeg2 editor, and m2-edit pro 5 and Mpeg2VCR are good editors also but none freeware..

I am having problems getting the right audio streem from a .VoB file. When i try for the audio layers the default is comming up as layer 2. This layer will giv eme a Directors Discussion ofthe movie as it plays. When i select layer1 i always get an "encodeing" error around 34% of the way through.

Any suggestions for splitting the file to get and isolate multiple audio tracks would be welcome.

ok this is woth is happen i have div4 type codec files i want to encode but all i get is diff color blocks all over the screen i downloaded the file off kazaa and kazaa says it is a div4 codec file i try and encode is in to a mpeg file for a vcd to play in my dvd and it shows diff color blocks can you help me?

OK..First make sure that you Dont have the "Angel Potion" Codec installed on your system, It is a Hacked Mpeg-4 codec that causes Problems like Pink and Purple discoloration on Files encoded with tmpgenc, the codecs file name is "apmpeg4v3.dll"...If you don"t have that codec installed then go to "Options" to "enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi plugins" and raise the priority of the "Direct Show File Reader" to "2"..This should clear up the image...

what does the error "Can't Load P3Package.dll" mean?

means that file is not in the same folder as tmpgenc.......put all your tmpgenc files in the same folder!

i am having same problem what does he mean put all files in tmpgenc file

I am having problems getting the right audio streem from a .VoB file. When i try for the audio layers the default is comming up as layer 2. This layer will giv eme a Directors Discussion ofthe movie as it plays. When i select layer1 i always get an "encodeing" error around 34% of the way through.

Any suggestions for splitting the file to get and isolate multiple audio tracks would be welcome.

What I would do is use DVD2AVI to extract all the Audio tracks and go through them till you find the correct one..If you are encodeing VOB files the Proper way Involves useing DVD2AVI to make a D2V file to frame serve and Extract the audio anyways so you should be familliar with how to use DVD2AVI so I won"t explain how to use it...

Ok i see that it has seemed to have posted multiple times. I do not know how this happend as im using the Web form.

I will grab DVD2AVI and give that a go. Thankyou for the help.

Regards
Beriah