It keeps telling me that the file i want to burn is to long to fit on one CD-R do i have to strech it to 2 discs or is there somthing else i must do. I am new to trying this so any help would be great. thank you.

You can only fix a max of about 795mb on a 80munute 700mb cd-r so if your mpeg file is bigger than 795mb then you will need to split it, you can do this by going to "file" to "mpeg tools" to "merge & cut" then it is pretty easy to figure out from there but in the future you can use the "source range" setting in the "advanced settings" to encode the first half(or third or whatever)of the movie then the second half so you don"t have to split it later.Generally speaking you will need to put pretty much all vcd"s/svcd on at least 2 cd-r"s, but if after encodeing you realize that your whole movie is only say 1gb then it is sort of a waste of space to use a whole cd-r for the first 795mb and onlt 205mb for the second so it is good to figure out before hand how long the movie is and how dig it will be so you can adjust the bitrate to make the file bigger so it will fill up both cd-r"s and the quality will be better as a result.....

thank you for the information.The movie i want to burn is 735 MB but it is 90 min long so i keep getting message when i try to burn it, Is there somthing very basic i am doing wrong i am useing the 700 MB CD-Rs but it says it only holds 80 min.

You must be useing "Nero" I have noticed that the newer versions of Nero have this bug in them that won"t allow you to burn more than 80minutes of video on a cd-r even if it is smaller than the cd-r..So try useing "VCDEasy" it is free and it supports chapters, as of late I have been leaning towards "VCDEasy" as apposed to Nero for ease of use and compatability.......

I would like to convert a whole bunch of 1/2 hour avi's to mpg for VCD archival. Can I get TMpegEnc to do this unattended? They are all the same bitrate size, etc, so can I just tell it to do 20 or so files and work for the next 10 hours?

Load them all into Virtualdub and use the append function after loading each file then framserve to TMPG. The files will automatically be joined into one.

ASHY

>Load them all into Virtualdub and use the append function after loading each file then framserve to TMPG. The files will automatically be joined into one.
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>ASHY

Hope this isn't a retarded question...but won't that make one big mpg file? How would I then split the mpg's into manageable sizes?

Sorry I see now, I was assuming you did want to combine into one MPEG.

Ok the option you are looking for is TMPG's batch conversion.

Load the file you wish to convert and set up as you would wish to encode it then click File>save project.
Do this for each file you wish to convert then when you are ready to encode simply click File>batch encode then click 'Add' and highlight all the projects you have created and add them to the list. Click 'run' and TMPG will encode each file in the order of the list. You will also notice a shutdown option will appear allowing you to shut down the PC after encoding is finished.

You may also want to use this little utility if you have a lot of files to convert.
http://www.innsys.com.au/doylie/cat_Development/TMPEG_Batcher/TMPEG_List.htm

ASHY

Thanx very muchly!!

Updated link for the TMPEG Batch List Creator:
http://www.innsys.com.au/doylie/cat_Development/TMPEG_Batcher/TMPEG_List.asp

Is there an automated way to apply filters inside

my problem is I capture about 200-300 videos at a time... and also apply a volume controll... normalizing the mpeg at 75%

building a batch process like this utility does is 80% of the work done for me... is there anyway to make TMPGEnc also apply that volume nomilization before it encodes? automatically?

The only way I can suggest is to create your batch list then load up the list into TMPG. In the batch list you will see each individual file to be encoded. If you double click a file in the list you will be able to change the parameters for that particular file including the volume be able to add other filters.
Do this for each file in the list and then resave the list and your files should be encoded with the settings you chose.

ASHY

^_^

I am trying to avoid having to manually normalize the audio for all of the files... it canbe tedious

I agree, but this would be the quickest method I know and is quicker than adding the normalization to a manually created project file, which is the only other way I can see of doing it.

ASHY

I would like to convert a whole bunch of 1/2 hour avi's to mpg for VCD archival. Can I get TMpegEnc to do this unattended? They are all the same bitrate size, etc, so can I just tell it to do 20 or so files and work for the next 10 hours?

I have tried several times getting encoding a movie with an AC3 track. The result has been no sound on my pc or DVD player, and Choppy (play and pause non stop) picture on my dvd player. Im almost at a total loss. Also how do you keep the AC3 track when making a VCD/SVCD? Any help would be appreciated.

First off Tmpgenc doesn"t support encodeing AC3 audio and your vcd/svcd player probably won"t play it either cuz AC3 is not part of the svcd/vcd specification.But if you want to try anyways you will need an ac3 decoder to extract the ac3 audio then you encode just the video then you mux the AC3 audio to the m2v video file..But the reason that you are getting jumpy playback could be because the frame rate of your avi file could be differant than the mpeg file, Tmpgenc will give you jumpy playback if you use it to do the frame rate conversion, so chech the frame rate of the avi file and make sure it is the same as the mpeg file.......

>I have tried several times getting encoding a movie with an AC3 track. The result has been no sound on my pc or DVD player, and Choppy (play and pause non stop) picture on my dvd player. Im almost at a total loss. Also how do you keep the AC3 track when making a VCD/SVCD? Any help would be appreciated.

Thx it was my dvd player. I returned it.

After installing the new version I keep getting a streaming error. I do use the custom XSVD. Could this be the cause of the problem.

Thanks

When converting a NTSC avi down to a VCD compliant PAL file destination file (mpeg) seems to glitch every few seconds - I feel this has something to do with the frame rates - any option on tmpg to solve this?? Cheers people.

Hmm, If your standalone player supports it to play NTSC CDs or DVDs on a PAL TV Set stay with NTSC. Its too much fuss to convert it.

BTW: If someone has an half decend way to make an 23 fps NTSC stream out of an 25 fps PAL stream tell us. :) I hate to say but bur getting more than 70 mins of film on an SVCD PAL stinks ;-/

Ok there is one method I have been testing that works quite well and is less fuss than the usual method of stretching/shrinking the audio to match the length of the changed framerate avi.

The method I have been testing uses AVIsynth.
Some people may think AVIsynth is difficult to use, but once you get the hang of it, it is really quite simple. This method is similar to the way professional converters do the job.

First of all you will need to download AVIsynth 1.06 and the MPEG2DEC.dll from dooms site. http://www.doom9.org/mpg/d2a-mpeg2dec.htm

Next follow the instructions to install AVisynth.
Once installed you will then have to prepare a script to work with AVIsynth.

Here is an example of how to convert PAL to NTSC using AVIsynth.

Assuming we are using DVD2AVI, in a text file put the following:

LoadPlugin("D:AvisynthMPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:Ripped Vobsvts_01.d2v")
convertfps(23.976)

Now rename the file with an .avs extension.
Thats it, the only difference you will have is the paths to the files.
Then it is a simple case of loading the .avs file and the DVD2AVI wav file into TMPG and resizing and clipping as normal.

This method is much better than TMPG as there aren't as many motion artifacts, the only thing I have noticed is slight blurring in some motion scenes, but is really only noticable if you look hard and is typical of the effect you get with professional converters.

To convert NTSC to PAL is a little more difficult unless the source is 23.976 progressive frames, if this is the case then it is a simple case of following the instructions above, but obviously changing the framerate to the required one.
If the source is 29.97 with pulldown added then I would urge you to use DVD2AVI to remove the pulldown and return the movie back to 23.976 progressive frames.

If not then we will have to use AVIsynth to de-interlace the movie first. A script such as below is needed.


LoadPlugin("D:AvisynthMPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:VCD moviesTestsxxx.d2v")
bob()
SeparateFields.SelectEvery(4,0,3)
convertfps(50)
weave()

Then load into TMPG and encode.

Note: do not resize the movie before applying the de-interlace option as it needs to see the full scan lines.

ASHY

Doing Frame rate conversion with Tmpgenc will allways give you jumpy playback.It is quite difficult to do a frame rate conversion from 29.9fps to 25fps so if you can play ntsc movies on your pal set up then go for it cuz the alternitive is quite hard to do .It is a lot easier to do a 23.9fps to a 25fps or visa versa.,Dut doing a 23.9fps to 25fps is a lot easier you just use "avi frame rate converter" to change the frame rate of your avi to 25fps then you use a audio editing program like "cool edit" or "sound forge 5 or 6" to shrink the audio file to the new length of the avi file(the length shortens when changeing the frame rate) then you encode and mux the audio and video together..That is the very short way of explaining it but that is basicly it, if you wan"t a more explained way to do it use the "Search" function at the top of this BBS, cuz it has been explained quite a few times here...

I guess we were writeing at the same time again...lol

Thanks for the Tip Ashy as soon as I have time *sigh* I will try it out.

Hello,

I have tried to search for this answer but have been unsuccessful thus far. What I have done in the past is edit in premier and export the video only to tmpgenc for encoding to mpeg2. Then i export a separate wav file from premier then join the two later in DVDit. My problems started to occur after I started using Ulead DVD workshop which doesn't support bringing in two streams separately. Is there any way to accomplish this without encoding the audio? I realize the benefits of encoding the audio to compress the file but I have heard that some set top players have a hard time playing mpeg audio. Any comments on that statement would also be appreciated.

Thanks for any and all help!

Jim

Most dvd players will NOT have a problem with Mpeg audio, I have heard this also but I do not believe it to be true cuz i worked in a big name electronics store and every player there played mpeg audio.and most authoring programs will encode the audio to mpeg .But if you are concerned about this you can allways use AC3(Dolby Digital) audio and mux it with the video and import it into Ulead but I don"t know if Ulead supports AC3, but you should try useing the mp2 audio cuz I"m sure you won"t have a problem with it...

I also agree that it is doubtful any players will have a hard time with MPEG audio. As far as I'm aware MPEG audio is included in the DVD specification and thus this means every DVD player has to support it.
As minion suggests why not go the whole hog and convert to Ac3, this will not only ensure that the audio is fully compatible, but it will be of higher quality and also I have noticed that Ac3 streams are usually smaller in size than ordinary MPEG2 audio.

ASHY

Thanks for the advice on MPEG audio as I wasn't sure it would be a problem. I noticed my Pioneer Dv 525 plays it fine but only after changing the setting in the setup to except the stream. Will the newer players automatically detect this and accomodate it for the user?

I'll give AC3 a shot and see how it works out. Any advice on a encoder would also be appreciated.

Later

Jim

Ok. I can't figure this one out. I found some programs to encode to AC3. I started using AC3Machine to encode my wav file from premier. I think I got it to work since the 1 min clip I was playing with went from 4mb to about 480kbs. it plays fine on the PC using media player. I then tried to multiplex with bbmpeg. This is where i got lost. Any help is appreciated as I am in the dark on this one.

Jim

Where are you lost???Tmpgenc should multiplex ac3 streams for you it just doesn"t encode them .I haven"t tried it but I know poeple have done it before..

I guess my problem is that I have never done it before so I really don't know where to begin. When I tried it with TMPGenc it said I had and inllegal mpeg audiostream. I tried both simple multiplex and multiplex under mpeg tools

Jim

OK, heres a link to a muxer called XMuxer it muxes AC3 streams with mpeg2 files
http://moonlight.co.il/products/Xmux.shtml

Here is an example of a metrix I used today for a VCD which brough better results then the default setting. I use it with maximum block noise removal, and for picture noise removal I used: 20, 1, 20.

Andy ideas? suggestions?

Matrix for intra:
008, 028, 048, 068, 088, 108, 118, 128
028, 048, 068, 088, 108, 118, 128, 128
048, 068, 088, 108, 118, 128, 128, 128
068, 088, 108, 118, 128, 128, 128, 128
088, 108, 118, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128
108, 118, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128
118, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128
128, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128, 128

Didn't change the non intra matrix.

Afaik 99 is the highest setting to bother with

Your Matrix should cut down size drastically but with the drawback that next to all details(high frequencies)are lost. For low quality and noisy sources this might be a good thing ...

Developing a Matrix is sort of trial and error and frankly I for my part have far more errors than success. Eg. you have to take in account the resolution, GOP structure, min/max Bitrate and other things... if you have a good setting for VCDs and change the resolution to SCVD you migt want(have)to change your Matrix too.

For a good collection of Matrixes look here:

http://www.dvd-svcd-forum.de/phorum/ikonboard.cgi?s=3d1084720e9affff;act=ST;f=18;t=47

Thanks, will give them a try...

BTW, speaking of GOP, I was wondering, in "force picture type" what is exactly B copy and P copy?
And if I want to make a closed GOP should I have a P frame followed by an I frame that is selected as a new GOP?

ABS

I wanted to merge 2 files about 400k each that had different data rates. I loaded each as a new project and saved them as separate files. When I merged them, the output file was 5 times larger over 3 MB.
How do I merge the files so that one files justs appends to the other.

Thanks

If you try to merge two files with data rates that are different, tmpgenc will pad the data from the file with the lower data rate so it matches the file with the higher data rate.You can not merge two files with different specs..What you can do is re-encode the two files to the same settings then merge them to one file but you will loose a bit of quality when re-encodeing...

Hmm, I may have to disagree, I have done this on several occasions using TMPG and the file size has been relatively the same, maybe slightly larger due to a little overhead, but I don't think TMPG adds any padding. There is no reason why two differing bitrate MPEGs can't be joined. The header in the file will simply be changed to reflect it is now a VBR MPEG.

What are the specs of the files and what was the 'stream type' you chose when merging the MPEGs.

ASHY

I am encoding in TMPGE and using Uleads DVD workshop for authoring and burning.
My question is - does Uleads workshop re encode if you are aready giving it Mpeg2?
ed

It re-encodes only if the bitrate of the MPEG-2 file is higher then the one you set in the project settings.

According to their release notes, version 1.2 of Workshop has an explict "do not re-encode" selection. It is a free upgrade.

This is one of the problems I had with "ulead dvd workshop" if I mad a svcd file that was a bit out of the "ulead" specs then it would re-encode the file it wouls even re-encode the file if it was totaly svcd compliant but it had a frame rate that was 23.9fps for some reason "ulead" doesn"t recognize "ntsc film" as a valid svcd format. So switched to the "ulead dvd plugin" cuz it allows you to do xvcd/xsvcd"s pluss it does simular menu"s and chapters as dvd workshop and you can add titles also cuz you have to use the dvd plugin with "ulead video studio" or "ulead media studio" and with these programs you can do titles easily, so if you are doing xsvcd"s or xvcd"s then useing the dvd pligin might be what you are lookin for..But if the dvd workshop update solves the problem also then go for it.....

I am using DVD workshop as well and have made a custom template with a bitrate that is slightly lower than that what I import and check the box that says do not re-encode compliant files. This should solve it for you.

jim

i´ve made a screenshot from the error message

http://de.geocities.com/audisource/error.bmp

i know its not very god but you can see the message !
this ocours when i try to load a vob file into tmpg enc 2.57 !!
I have the filters from PowerDVD installed !

So Long...

Are you loading VOB files directly into Tmpgenc????You shouldn"t do this for a few reasons, Tmpgenc has problems seperateing all the differant streams in a vob file, and it take up to 5 times as long to encode a raw vob file to a mpeg file as opposed to frame serveing it, and Tmpgenc isn"t made to encode raw vob files. The correct way to encode vob files with Tmpgenc is to "Frame Serve" them from "DVD2AVI".This is a easy and quick way to encode Vob files pluss you can extract the correct audio tracks with dvd2avi and into a format that tmpgenc can encode(wav)..So go download dvd2avi and i"m sure all of your vob encodeing problems will be solved.......

Yeah i know about DVD2AVI but i make a mistake i think the new version of TMPG ENC can load VOB files directly...But it cant (yet) so i use DVD 2 AVI (very good Pogramm) !

Hello,
I know that this site is devoted to the TMPG Encoder, but I didn't find a forum for the Ligos encoder. That said, has anyone had the problem that after capturing video from a miniDV camera via firewire into Premiere, and then exporting a timeline from Premiere 6.02 using the LSX MPEG-2 DVD assets setting, that sometime during the transcoding Premiere just quits by itself. I have the registered LSX Mpeg Suite 2.0. My Adobe Premiere project is about an hour long and about 7 minutes into the process Premiere just quits. Any help regarding this matter would be appreciated.

Another question that I have is regarding the actual transcoding speed. I am running a P4 2.0 ghz, 512 DDR Ramm, 100 GB HD. Is there anyway to make the transfer speed closer to real time cause right now I'm looking at about 3:1 or 4:1. Thanks a lot,
Eugene

You might try posting the question at:

www.vcdhelp.com

John

Exporting from Premier allways takes forever so what i have been doing with Premier is to Render the file Into an avi format(is way quicker that exporting to an encoder)Then use Tmpgenc to encode the finnished project to mpeg.With your system you should be able to encode with tmpgenc in real time,There is a way to use tmpgenc with Premier but I don"t know the link to were to find the plugin module to get Tmpgenc to work with Premier but if I find it I will post back........

Here is a link to frameserve Premier with TMPGenc.

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0165394101/Premiere_AVISynth_TMPGEnc.html

It is fairly straightforward but if not let me know. I usually frameserve while I sleep since it will take a long, long, time to do so..

Jim

Here"s a link to a "premier video server plugin" that will alow you to use Tmpgenc as a plugin for Premier it is supposed to be a bit quicker than "aviSynth" but from what i hear it will take a very long time to encode to mpeg2 from Premier, so i would sugest maybe rendering to an avi format(uncompressed or lossless would be best)Then encode with Tmpgenc .It would still take half the time as premier would, anyway heres the link:
http://www.marcpeters.co.uk/downloads.html

In my humble experience, outputing using the premier video server plugin is ALWAYS going to be quicker than creating an intermediary AVI file... Edwin's tool essentially creates a "dummy" AVI file to encode (so you elimate a step of the process). Additionally, AVI files eat up hard disk space; so eliminating this step means you don't have to worry about disk space!