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Hi Folks: I have been a long time TMPGENC Express 4 user. I have loved most of thier products and generally upgrade cause the newer features are always a great addtion. I bought the full edition yesteday and the Timeline Edit feature either needs a lot of improvements or I am just not getting it and a HELP video or guide will be very much appreciated. I must say I had high expectations of the edit timeline as I have used Adobe premiere and was hoping to at least get 1/4th the functionality but am finding that its lacking in many ways. any help appreciated
1. Editing a clip to add something in between a clip.. ie: If a clip was A...B...C, I want to remove B and replace it with X. This is a simple edit function. Only way I have found in the TVMW 5 is you double click the clip which pops up the old edit window. You delete A & C to create a B. Save B. Cut B &C - save A. then cut A & B - save C. Then in the main window you attach the A X & C. This to me is not cut/paste in a timeline. Am I missing something?
2. Filters - Ok the filter screen is still in the old TMGENC EXPRESS 4 where you apply a FIlter to the full clip. I tried that with the Zoom control but zoom does not give you any options to change anything - So is there a way to control aspects of what you are zooming?
3. Timeline Window - I could not find any way of chaning the Time scale. ie: Setting the scale to 1sec instead of 5 sec etc. I am assuming this is not a feature.
Looks like the Timeline tool only helps you do 1 thing.. attach clips to the end or to the front and view them in a timeline view. Thats it. Remember the old TMPGENC Express could do that without viewing it in a timeline. I would like to see a Help file for the TIMELINE edit funtionality to see what I can do with it except add clips to the end or start of another clip
There is a help file, it is in Options-->Help. Or just press F1 and it should go to the help section of whatever window you're in.
There's plenty of things you can do in timeline mode that you can't in normal mode. Animation for one thing. You can also layer videos one on top of the other to create picture-in-picture effects or just use layering to make watermarks. You can also resize and rotate your video. Also, there are timeline filters that are applied to all layers of the timeline in addition to clip specific filters.
1. Why do you need to create B if you want to remove it? Just use the split clip function and set a split clip point at the beginning and end of B. It will ask which parts of the clip you want to keep--keep A and C which will probably be the same color (marked yellow or blue). You'll then have two clips, A and C, then put X between them.
2. I'm assuming you're talking about the zoom filter for slideshows since there's no regular filter called Zoom. If the zoom is applied via the global slideshow settings, then you can't control where it zooms in/out since that is more of an automatic setting. However, if you apply the zoom individually to each image, you can set the point where it will zoom-in/out.
3. There is a slider on the left side above the layers to increase the zoom of the timeline so you can look at it at different scales.
TKrave, Thanks a LOT!!! for your help. The HELP FILE YOU MENTION by typing F1 is PHENOMENAL!. Great job on the help file with all the pictures. You really don't need anything else.
Overall, I could help myself with All the answers & thanks to your help, I found out how to do it. Thanks once again. Really appreciate it. I think everyone should read the HELP file before posting cause its really well done.
My owns answers including responses to what you had
1. Editing A - B - C - removing B and replacing with X - I did not know how to use the SPLIT tool. Ie - first create keyframes in the edit tool, then exit then tmpgenc asks you do you want to split the clip - WOW!!! - This is great. Then it puts the 3 clips in the EDIT Window and then you can move it to different layers at you fill like it--- This is almost the same functionality at Adobe Premiere!. Kudos to TMPGENC for giving us this at this price point
2. I was thinking of picture RESIZE filter but read up the excellent HELP file and its intended for another reason. So Its not really what I wanted. If TMPGENC were to offer a "PAN AND ZOOM" video filter in the future - I will buy it :-). I am addicted to the PAN and ZOOM filter in Premiere and cannot live without it.
3. Found the slider and works like a CHAMP.
All I can say is TMGENC VM works 5.0 is a MUST HAVE for anyone who uses Express 4.0. Wow! - this is phenomenal and I can retire my 4 year old Adobe premiere.
You can actually do a pan and zoom effect with the animation feature. Set your key points in the animation timeline, and at those key points, position and resize your video as necessary. The program will animate the clip to zoom-in/out and pan according to those key points. You can also do rotation at the same time if you need to!
Hi tkrave, once again. You are my hero. The Animation you mention is very powerful indeed. 100times better than the pan and zoom. You can set a lot of animation points on the video and do whatever you want. amazing. Thanks again for pointing out this brilliant feature. Now I am off to some serious video editing. Thanks, Andi
Hi - Animation as pan-zoom update- Have been using the Animation feature for last few weeks and it is powerful indeed - however its a lot of work to get "PAN n ZOOM" or "IMAGE PAN" to look smooth. The "PAN n ZOOM" or "IMAGE PAN" feature in premiere creates a smooth panning & zooming video which looks and feels like a camera zoom. With animation - even if you put a lot of animation points, the pan and zoom looks jittery - ie: Video jumps from animation pt to animation pt. Not sure if there is a solution to create smooth animation effects but I think having a Pan-n-zoom or Image pan filter would be great so you dont have to create 100 animation pts. Cheers, Andi
Yeah, you really need to make as few key points as possible for smooth movement. If possible, keep it to two states per clip (starting state and end state).
I was delighted to hear that VMW5 was released while I was on vacation/holiday and immediately downloaded it when I got home.
The first test I ran was to convert an MKV file of WALL-E in DTS-HD Master Audio to a Blu-ray Disc. I was very impressed with VMW5 picked up the embedded chapter keyframes (cool!!!) and selected a 50GB 1080p Dolby Digital 5.1 template at 23.978 FPS (same as original). I used VBR and let it crunch a two-pass conversion for several hours.
In the morning, I double-clicked the .MPG file only to hear terrible audio sync issues. It sounds like an old-fashioned tape recorder running at 16x fast forward while the video plays just fine. I tried playing the file with PowerDVD, Windows Media Player, and Nero ShowTime. All applications showed the same problem, which makes me think the file has the problem.
Is there something I can try to set/reset/change to resolve this? Should I file a bug report? Is there a workaround?
You're probably right. I just did another test using an MKV of Shrek 4 in Dolby TrueHD to a CBR MPEG-2 file and it worked perfectly. When I read that DTS wasn't supported, I assumed you meant as an output audio stream. I hadn't realized that 6-channel DTS as input was also unsupported.
I'll try playing with the Advanced MPEG tools and see what trouble I can get into.
>>One thing you might want to try is demuxing your MKV file with the Advanced MPEG tools. Then import the two separate files.
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>No joy. The MPEG demux tool immediately calls foul on the audio stream. The error is: "The file WALL-E.mkv is an invalid MPEG-Audio stream."
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>tsMuxeR can demux the MKV into an H.264 video and DTS audio stream. I'll try weaving them together with VMW5 and see what mess I make.
VMW5 couldn't read either the .264 or the .DTS file, so there seems to be no way of using MKV files with DTS audio. I have other tools that can read the MKV file and produce Blu-ray content, but they cut the audio down to two-channel stereo. tsMuxeR can "mux" an MKV file to Blu-ray with chapters and original video/audio encoding, but no menus.
Did some testing of MPEG-4 encoding using CUDA and VBR/CBR. Encoding was very fast, but I sometimes get blocks on scene changes that can take several seconds to disappear. They seem to last longer on VBR than CBR. Changing average (and max bit rates on VBR) didn't seem to change the block generation. The other odd thing is they are always in non-changing areas. Definitely seems to be an encoder error.
It was probably an encoder error, or error in colour space converting. I had this artifacts to in exactly the same way as your situation. Newest revision od TPMGEnc VMW 5 seems have fixed this problem.
The new version fixed this for me as well. I get some artifacts with CUDA encoding, but they seem to be rate related now which you would expect. Nice that they fixed this!
PRIORITY 1:
+ Ability to give titles to chapters that you create in editor.
+ Give the option "Chapter Browse view" inside the browser, so that the user can quickly browse/search through all of the chapters archive from all the movies they have created.
+ Add subcategories ability. Example: lets say i have 2 main categories, basketball and football, i want to be able to create a subcategory in the category "Football" that only contains matches from Arcenal F.C.
PRIORITY 2:
+ Give the option to the users to be able to use small icons (128 x 128px)of their choice, to categorize videos in addition to simple color tagging.
I am a current user of Express 4 and while I can import MKVs and convert them into MPEGs for BD play I cannot select the Audio and Subtitles that I want to be in the MPEG - example MKV container has Eng and Japan Audio and no subtitles and Eng subtitles - but 4.0 and 5.0 both don't allow for me to select a combination that I want to be in the MPEG - US audio and No subtitles is automatically selected.
Am I missing something - if this is the case I will reconsider buying this new product.
a suggestion to finalize my comments - why can't you just build a function that mkvtoolnix has this will simplify things greatly with selecting video, audio and subtitles to use? http://www.videohelp.com/tools/mkvtoolnix
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I have a special request regarding saving subtitles and it will nice to have the ability to save or export subtitle in SRT format. TVMW5 currently have two subtitle formats but it's not compatible with many media players.
a suggestion to finalize my comments - why can't you just build a function that mkvtoolnix has this will simplify things greatly with selecting video, audio and subtitles to use? http://www.videohelp.com/tools/mkvtoolnix
Yep problem with subtitles .. with american video series and teams who make subtitles they all use .ass or .srt .. and Tmpeg doesnt use the styles ...
It would be great to have an import of Srt files natively to resynch all srt files in our favorites authoring software ...
I have a special request regarding saving subtitles and it will nice to have the ability to save or export subtitle in SRT format. TVMW5 currently have two subtitle formats but it's not compatible with many media players.
I would like to second this request. I wanted to be able to use TMPG VMW5 to edit my HD captures from Hauppauge HD-PVR device (mt2s files), remove adverts then resave to the same format (m2ts) with smart recoding.
At present you can't save to the same format without re-encoding (except wehere neccesary round the edits).
I also really need Smart Rendering to justify buying the product. I will say, however, that the product is EXACTLY what I am looking for in every other respect.
I understand you provide smart rendering in the MPEG Editor product, but that appears to be for HDV only, not DV. I want smart rendering for both DV and HDV. In other words, my needs are not met even I was to purchase both MPEG Editor and the VMW5 product.
It's too bad, because with the smart rendering piece, I would buy this product in a nanosecond. Without it, my workflow remains such that I am just as well continuing with what I've got.
Since the new AVC encoder is supposedly based on x264, anyone know how the CQ control relates to x264 ones? When using x264 I prefer to set CRF between 18 to 22. How do I do something like this here? Also can't seem to find any settings for the quantizer. Seems to offer less control than v4. I'm kind of underwhelmed so far.
The x264 in TMV5 actually uses the crf factor when set in Constant Quality (CQ) mode. The relation from the 0-100% quality scale to CRF is :
CRF = 1 + (100 - Q)/2
So in your case, if you want CRF between 18 and 22 you would use Qualities between 66 (CRF=18) to 58 (CRF=22).
You can always check the actual CRF value used by the x264 encoder with the MediaInfo utility.
For the advanced x264 parameters, hit the "MPEG Output" button.
i tried but couldn't work it out ( not the best with maths ) could you please tell me the numbers for the following CRF values for x264 in tmpgenc mastering works :
Hello everybody,
The upgrade to Video Masteringworks 5 was worth it for me. It takes .wtv files directly, it has the option of timeline editing, it seems more polished, and the output seems a bit sharper. My only problem is that video files converted using the mkv option won't play on my PS3 using PS3 Server. I never have a problem playing downloaded mkv files, or mkv files converted using Handbrake. Anybody know what might be going on or what options to select differently from the default ones?
Thanks, gordoncanada
I'm trying to test the difference between x264 speed and Quick Sync. I have a i7-2600K on H67 motherboard with both GMA graphics and discrete card active and working with plugged-in monitors. Using a random 5 min VGA-size clip I'm able to encode that in 2 mins with x264. However encoding through "Intel Media SDK" takes 13 minutes! Any idea what's going on?
No that's the SATA port. I realize there's an issue with using the Quick Sync if a discrete GPU is plugged into the H67/P67 chipset motherboards, because it disables the on-chip GMA. But in my system both the on-chip GMA and discrete GPU are working. When using x264 all 4/8 cores are pegged to 100%. When using the "Intel Media SDK" the CPU cores are pretty much idle, and looks that way for the GMA too.
The successor to the award-winning TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress is here. Among its features is support for many input and output formats, detailed parameter settings, fast and precise cut-editing, video format conversion, compression, material creation, and much more! This is the high-quality encoding choice of video enthusiasts everywhere.
TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 5 includes improved editing or filtering functions, popular MKV or WebM format support, and other new features, which are expanding the limits of the encoder, becoming a complete encoding solution. It also supports many input and output formats, detailed parameter settings, and offers a fast and precise cut-edit function, video format conversion, compression, material creation and more.
Input related:
* MKV container file support;
* H.264 stream FLV file native support;
* Dolby Digital Plus audio support;
* Integrated HDV/DV camcorder capture function;
* MPEG-2 TS file analyzer capable of recognizing multi-stream video with different resolutions;
* File reader selector function when importing a file;
* Audio only importation;
* Select closed captions or subtitle data from MPEG-TS files, Blu-ray or DVD-Video (when several are available);
* Import Blu-ray or AVCHD file video by the title (VC-1 video not supported)
Editing related:
* Layer editing in a timeline;
* Integrated clip transition effects;
* Setting a blur or mosaic mask while playing the content;
* Vintage image filter;
* Playback speed changer filter;
* Multi-channel audio level meter with each preview;
* Undo/Redo option in almost all editing windows;
* On top of this, integrates our advanced Intuitive Draw Technology for fast preview rendering. NVIDIA CUDA decoder now available.
Output related:
* Uses the x264 encoder;
* Supports the Intel® Media SDK H.264 encoder;
* Supports the NVIDIA CUDA hardware H.264 encoder;
* Supports MKV container file output.
Other:
* Access the Tools from any stage of the main window from the Start-up Launcher;
* Proxy editing file creation function;
* Batch encode tool Task tray minimization.
Hello. I am after the first test of this program. "Cuda" do not work without a filter, Adobe encore CS5, then the material encodes (untrancoded). It makes no sense to buy this program.
>Hello. I am after the first test of this program. "Cuda" do not work without a filter, Adobe encore CS5, then the material encodes (untrancoded). It makes no sense to buy this program.
CUDA can be used for H.264 encoding as well, filters don't need to be enabled for that. Or maybe I just don't know what you're saying.
Nice product but VMW5 falls short of including SRT subtitle support. It made no sense to exclude SRT while they include support for closed-caption. I'll have to use a free third-party software to do this simple task of merging the SRT into my videos.
Ahh... while I was researching this some more and they do indeed support SRT.
What I did was...
1) Open a New Project
2) Select video file
3) In 'Clip properties' select Filters button
4) Click 'Edit filter list' button at the bottom
5) Add 'Subtitles' from Filter catalog and press OK
6) Select 'Subtitles' from the filter list and 'enable subtitles' should be checked.
7) Click 'Edit menu' at lower right and 'Import subtitles'
8) Now you can do the videos with subtitles.
Nice thing about this is that you can edit/resync the subtitles and save the subtitle without merging into the video.
>Won't buy this until you support SMART RENDERING.
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>Good job downloaded trial, and found that it ALWAYS has to re-encode video !
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>WTF? Other TMPG products use smart rendering.
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>Avoid this product until they update it unless you like compression after compression from re-encodes where it's not required !!!!
Other TMPGEnc products use smart rendering for MPEG-2/DivX Ultra ONLY and those are for specific uses such as DVD-Video/BD. It's easy to implement smart rendering when you know a file has to conform to a certain standard (DVD-Video standard, for example) but if it were easy to implement for any old file and any format, then every software company out there would be doing it.
Nevermind the fact that this is an ENCODER. That is it's PRIMARY purpose. It is for re-encoding video for other purposes. If you're buying it to edit your video, then yes, don't waste your time.
I bought this updgrade, but it does not work on Windows XP Pro 64bit. Wish they told me that before wasting my money. Now they have blocked the licence on my version 4 software and refuse to refund my money. A BIG RIP-OFF. DO NOT BUY.
If you are looking at this for a 64bit system, it does NOT work.