Ashy

>You seem to be confused about things.

Most likely, but I appreciate you helping me out.

>There is no reason why you can't use MPEG1. MPEG1 is infact more suited to low bitrate encoding. VCD is typically CBR only however with KVCD or XVCD you can use VBR for MPEG1. This will allow you to fit more on 1 disk with higher quality.

I'm interested in the process you mention. I have not heard of XVCD, but if it will allow me to convert 60 minute avi files to a good quality mpg that will fit on an 80 cd-r I would like to try it.

Is there a tutorial or help files that explain the process. I'm not too impressed with KVCD, have not tried XVCD but am willing to try.

BTW, just for ducks, I converted one of the files to SVCD mpg2 and the resulting file is 1.25 gigs. Great quality, big file. Nothing like learning from experience!

Carol

ANY kind of Non-Standard-VCD is a XVCD, even KVCD, AVCD or MVCD. The difference between them are differend Templates.

You simply have to use other settings for Bitrate than the Standard-Things (and don't use the Wizard).

For an Example: To burn 120 Minutes of Video with 160 kbps for Audio onto a 80 Minutes CD as XVCD, just use 2pass VBR with:

Min = 400
AVG = 752
Max = 1350

Instead of CBR with fixed 1050 kbps.

You can also use a special Matrix like the following one:

Name18="KVCD_CQ65"
ReadOnly18=0
Intra18_0=8 16 19 22 26 27 29 34
Intra18_1=16 16 22 24 27 29 34 37
Intra18_2=19 22 26 27 29 34 34 38
Intra18_3=22 22 26 27 29 34 37 40
Intra18_4=22 26 27 29 32 35 40 64
Intra18_5=26 27 29 32 35 40 64 80
Intra18_6=26 27 29 34 38 48 80 80
Intra18_7=27 29 35 38 46 80 80 88
NonIntra18_0=16 17 18 19 20 21 26 26
NonIntra18_1=17 18 19 20 21 26 26 30
NonIntra18_2=18 19 20 21 26 26 30 30
NonIntra18_3=19 20 22 26 26 30 30 34
NonIntra18_4=20 22 24 27 28 32 34 72
NonIntra18_5=22 22 27 28 32 34 72 80
NonIntra18_6=22 27 28 32 34 72 80 80
NonIntra18_7=27 28 32 34 72 80 80 88

Thanks for the settings and the information. I will follow your suggestion and see what happens.

I was doing well with your message until I got the the matrix part ... Reads like Greek to me right now, but then if I'm not exposed to this stuff I will never learn.

Carol

I should have also asked about interlace/non-interlace. In TMPGEnc is says the setting will affect resize, but I'm not sure which should be the default, or does it matter as long as I'm not resizing?

The avi files I have are 640 X 480 and a bitrate of 1266 kb/s. Should it be resized to reduce the file size, or just change the bitrate? The audio is 128 kb/s stereo at 44100 Hz.

I don't think I saw an XVCD template, even at the KVCD site. Is there a link where I can get a template?

Carol

more questions ... after encoding a bit of the file. Should I load the vcd NTSF template, and then unlock the file and just change the bit rate?

How about the system stream setting? MPG1 or VBR?
Source aspect ratio? what is the best setting for viewing on TV?
Video size ?
interlace or non-interlace?

The partial file encoded has hard subs, but with the reduced bitrate the are sorta soft, if you know what I mean. Not as clear as on the original. I'm thinking I can up the average bitrate since the file is 60 minutes and then get a better image.

So many questons ... so much to learn ... bear with me on this!

Carol

VCD is always Non interlaced. If you have interlaced Source, choose one of the Deinterlacers.
Open the Video, load the Template, unlock it.
Stream setting is illegal VCD (MPEG1 Video-CD (non standard))
Video size... good Question, in my early Days, i used 352x288(240) or 352x576(480).

If you want only to put 60 Minutes on a 80 Minutes CD-R, i suggest you to use the CVD-Format, not XVCD. CVD (Chine Video Disk) is nearly the same than SVCD, but using 352x576(480) instead of 480x576(480).

AVG = 1636
Max = 2512 (for Standard Bitrates)
Min= 950
B-Picture Spoilage = 0
P-Picture Spoilage = 0

Audio = 192 kbps

Stream setting is Super Video CD

thanks for the settings! I will try it tonight and see what results I get.

Carol

Can I have people's opinions on using either Full Screen (keep aspect ratio) and Center (custom 640x440)? For 4:3 movies that do not have any subtitles, I use Full Screen (KAR). For subtitles, I use Center 640x440. But, on an older movie where I used Full Screen (KAR), I noticed that a lot seems to get cut off (and yes, it is 4:3). Which of these would the original DVD producers use?

TRhat's simple:

1. Never(!) use KAR, most AVIs from the Net did not have a correct AR, because the producers are to stupid.So, if you use KAR, your encodings will have a wrong AR too. And, in fact, all Full Screen-Modes are doing something with the Pictures, even if it not is necessary.
2. Never let TMPGEnc do any resizing, it's Resizing-Engine is not good, AVISynth and VirtualDub are much better.
3. If you use AVISynth or VirtualDub for Resizing, in TMPGEnc only Center (with nothing else) is the correct setting.
4. 640 is way to small, on some TVs you will see a lot of black space arround the Video.
5. To get the right AR and Picture-Size, use a Program like Fit2Disc to do all the calculations.

Well, I don't have a widescreen TV so it looks good with 640x440 when I have hard-subbed files. As for Fit2Disc, is there another program/option, it needs donations. :(

Hi all,

I've captured a file from my vcr with my pinnacle TVpro card. I'm trying to
re-encode specific part of the captured mpg file in tmpgenc as i want to cut
out add breaks. I've noticed an issue though if i tell tmpgenc to reencode
from frames 120 - 5000 everthing will look ok in the preview window, but
when i check the reencoded file after the process is complete is seems to
start and finish a few frames too late.

I've never had this issue working with avi files. Any ideas whats going on
here?

Thanks in advance
Jonathan

I am having trouble encoding an avi file. The error comes up as 'can not open or unsupported'. It is a regular avi file which runs perfectly on my pc. I have tried decompressing the audio and that works fine, just the video is causing a problem. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but any help would be appreciated. I have tried encoding to different formats - vcd, dvd etc, but it will not accept the input.

That's one of the frequently asked questions!
Try to give the DirectShowReader VFAPI-PlugIn a higher priority.

i'm trying to make an AVI to MPG and im using TMPGENC... i add the AVI and then i goto add teh WAV that i ripped using virtualdub. i add teh WAV and i get a run time error and have to close.

what am i doing wrong? also tryied to frame serve it to get the same error

I'm using TMPGenc Express 3.0
Ok, the setting in one version of TMPGenc was
"Output video and audio as individual elementary streams."
I've got TMPGenc express 3.0. After encoding only one output file comes out, not seperate audio and video file. I would like to author with IFOEdit and when I select video source theres no problem, but for the audio source, theres no seperate file. The audio was MP3 so I shouldn't have to extract it. The settings on Express 3.0 are a little different, can anybody tell me what the equivilent of "Output video and audio as individual elementary streams" is in the 3.0 vers that would give me two seperate output files?

you will need to select elementary streams (ES) after saving a template, I know, confusing....
http://www.videoproductions.com.au/temp/Tmpeg3.gif

>I'm using TMPGenc Express 3.0
>Ok, the setting in one version of TMPGenc was
>"Output video and audio as individual elementary streams."
>I've got TMPGenc express 3.0. After encoding only one output file comes out, not seperate audio and video file. I would like to author with IFOEdit and when I select video source theres no problem, but for the audio source, theres no seperate file. The audio was MP3 so I shouldn't have to extract it. The settings on Express 3.0 are a little different, can anybody tell me what the equivilent of "Output video and audio as individual elementary streams" is in the 3.0 vers that would give me two seperate output files?

>I'm using TMPGenc Express 3.0
>Ok, the setting in one version of TMPGenc was
>"Output video and audio as individual elementary streams."
>I've got TMPGenc express 3.0. After encoding only one output file comes out, not seperate audio and video file. I would like to author with IFOEdit and when I select video source theres no problem, but for the audio source, theres no seperate file. The audio was MP3 so I shouldn't have to extract it. The settings on Express 3.0 are a little different, can anybody tell me what the equivilent of "Output video and audio as individual elementary streams" is in the 3.0 vers that would give me two seperate output files?

I'm trying to convert an avi to mpg with tempgenc plus. Lately I can't do it and can't figure out what the problem is. The conversion goes smoothly with cucusoft avi to dvd but not tempgenc plus. The program just stops responding. No error message when I load the avi and start the process. It just sits there. I hit control alt delete to see what's going on and the xp window pops up saying that the program has stopped responding. Does anybody have a suggestion?

This was happening to me too, but I realized that the original AVI was corrupt at a certain point. I had to re-capture the video and then it can encode it properly.

Simple question...can't find any answers, looked everywhere, no one seems to help...please help. I read a post that's almost like mine but i still can't find answers.

I wanna make my 1.37GB .avi movie/tv file fit onto one dvd. NOT 2, just 1.
The file is to large and i can not put it onto my dvdrw disk. The dvdrw disk, is of course: 4.7GB and 120mins. The movie/tv series is a little under 2 hours. How can i make the files smaller? It never works...the .mpeg gets way HUGE...not good. Can someone tell me step-by-step? Thx.

-Qaz

Forget about those 120 Minutes - this is saying nothing. Some of my DVDs do store more than 6 Hours of Video. ;)
There is only one thing you have to think about: Single Layer DVDs can store up to 4.37 (NOT 4.7) GByte of Video. How many Minutes/Hours, that's only depanding on the Bitrate for your Movie.
To make some Mathematics about Bitrate, it does not matter how large your AVI is, only it's Playtime is important.

Just use the wizard it will keep the bitrate within the restraints of a single layer DVD size.

yea, i tried that but it turns it to an .mpeg and make the file way larger. >.>

Yes, of course it will make the file larger, that is unavoidable if you want to maintain the quality of the source.
The whole point is that the wizard will set the parameters correctly so that the the MPEG *WILL* fit on one DVDR disk.
Just make sure in the final window before encoding that you set the Disk size to 'DVD-R 4.7GB (UDF)' and check 'Auto setting' and 'Auto select'
TMPG should then create an MPEG of less than 4.37GB

Yea, i've tried that as well. I've had all the settings u said but still, it makes it bigger. Isn't there a guide on the net that could help or soemthing?? I'm getting no where. >.< I mean, why cant a single movie fit onto a stupid dvdrw diskk!? Gaah, lol. anyway, thanks for ur continuing help.

-Qaz

What does the wizard report as the final output size and what is the actual output size?

i am using nero 6 i can not burn 2 part of movie to 1 dvd disc please can you help me

Try to ask your question in one of the Nero-Boards....!

Okay, well, i used TMPGenc and it converted my .avi movie into a .mpg. All is good. But then..afterwards...i went to WMP and played the orginal file and i get no picture...all there is is sound. So i started to freak out and i went to my other video and wanted to see if there was picture and they had no picture, all there is is SOUND!!! Why did it do this? Please help. Do i not suppose to use the orginal .avi movie file??

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Hi everyone,

Okay, here is my problem. Please help me if you can. Thank you soooo much in advanced. :D Yesterday for my B-day i got an Iomega dvd recorder. With it came disks to record video on. The disks are normal dvd disks that hold: 4.7GB and 120mins.

Okay, well, since i'm a dumb newbie and all, i have been up all night trying to figure out this thing out, hehe. I've looked on google, yahoo, and even through the 300+ pages on this forum...no luck. A sales clerk referenced me to this program.

My problem is: I have downloaded a .avi movie over 2 hours long. Since the disk only holds up to 120mins...it won't let me record the movie onto one disk, i wanna record the movie onto one disk, not 2. So i guess this is where TMPGEnc comes in.

I tried using TMPGEnc and it changed my .avi into an .mpg, thats good. But i thought this program suppose to COMPRESS the files! Instead, it made my file even larger than it was. -_- 6 hours for nothing. How do i make my video file which is 1.36GB smaller to get on one disk?

You don't have to tell me step by step, cause i know it's a lotta work, but any website guide or advice or something would be so much of help..and i won't bug ya anymore, lol. I'm so stressed out. Please help and thanks for ur time.

Whoa slow down there, I'm at a bit of a loss of what you are actually trying to do.

When you say DVD recorder you mean DVD burner don't you?

You say your AVI is 1.36GB yet it won't fit a 4.7GB DVDR?
You must be doing something wrong there.

I take it you want to convert this AVI to DVD format, but your output was too large.

The size of the output is dependent on 2 things; the length of the source and the bitrate of the output file.

An avi will always have better compression than an MPEG, so your files will be bigger, however you can quite easily transfer this AVI to DVD while maintaining the quality.

My advice is to use the project wizard then select the DVD format you require, also ensure you select 'CBR MPEG1 audio(mp2)' from the drop down box.
Just follow the prompts in the wizard and it will produce a file of exactly the right size for DVD.

>Whoa slow down there, I'm at a bit of a loss of what you are actually trying to do.
>
>When you say DVD recorder you mean DVD burner don't you?
>
>You say your AVI is 1.36GB yet it won't fit a 4.7GB DVDR?
>You must be doing something wrong there.
>
>I take it you want to convert this AVI to DVD format, but your output was too large.
>
>The size of the output is dependent on 2 things; the length of the source and the bitrate of the output file.
>
>An avi will always have better compression than an MPEG, so your files will be bigger, however you can quite easily transfer this AVI to DVD while maintaining the quality.
>
>My advice is to use the project wizard then select the DVD format you require, also ensure you select 'CBR MPEG1 audio(mp2)' from the drop down box.
>Just follow the prompts in the wizard and it will produce a file of exactly the right size for DVD.

Hey ashy! Thanks so much for replying so quickly. Ur like the first person whos actually helped me out. Yes, sorry, i meant Dvd Burner.

Heres some information i have on my movie file.
It is in .avi format and i haven't yet converted it to an .mpeg yet.
The size of it now is: 1.36GB. Its not split into 2 parts. The total time of the whole entire movie is: 1 hour and 53mins, 56 seconds. My dvd disk that i wanna record the movie onto has: 4.7GB and 120mins. I used TMPGenc on this file, it took 6 hours to complete...i thought that it reduced the file but all TMPGenc did was make the file .mpg and way LARGER, around 3.67GB. -_-

It's just i'm not sure what to do...i'm completly lost. I know i suppose to convert it to an .mpeg but then what? I need the file to be smaller so it'll all fit on 1 dvd. I don't really know what output size and bitrate means...gahh..so sorry. Please help again...i appreciate it so much. Thx.
-Christine

Hi Christine21,

Seems to me you've got a compressed file video using an avi file extension - such a DivX or Mpeg4.

After converting the avi to DVD parameters (correct frame size and frame rate) you say the file size is larger than 4.7GB and longer than the 120 minute limit.

The limit isn't a problem - all you need to use is a program to "shrink" the DVD files on your hard drive to fit into the 4.7GB DVD disc.

To do this you have to have a special software.

You can find one mentioned on SoftDeko (sorry as it's a rival thought it diplomatic not to mention it's name here).

Check out SoftDeko Software Database Product Reviews & Forums: http://www.softdeko.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=148

SoftDeko Software Database
http://www.SoftDeko.com/

Christine you've got one us confused here.
You say your MPEG turned out to be 3.67GB in size, which by the way seems fine for the length of the AVI, yet you say it's too big to fit a 4.7GB(4.37GB) DVD?

What do you mean by it's too large? 3.67GB will easily fit a 4.37GB DVD.
Don't worry about the minutes capacity of a DVD. It is irrelevant and means nothing. All you need to worry about is the file size being under 4.37GB.

Thank you Pegasys for adding shadow option to chapter text, and for allowing a highlight selection so we can use yellow as a text color! The shadow increases the "professional" look of the menu.