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I have been tring all day to copy my DVD "Robbie Williams Live At The Albert" into a VCD video as to save repeated playback of the original DVD.
I tried creating a project using DVD2AVI, I set the audio to
Dolby Surround downmix and the video YUV-RGB to TV Scale. This project saved as a .d2v file and a .ac3 file, but when i try loading this to TMPGenc it tells me that it is unsupported, I have the VFAPI plugin installed, I have the DVD2AVI.vfp file in the TMPGenc folder but it still does not work. I can however using the VFAPI plugin directly load each VOB file but then I get no audio and I will end up with a bunch of files instead of the one mpeg file i want.
Can anybody help me out?
Go to "Options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the "Driect show" to "2"...This should help If it is a DivX or other Direct show Format...
is there a quick way of doing this, i am sick of using flaskmpeg to convert it to avi, is there no shortcut using tmpgenc?
or if not could somebody recomend a quick way to acomplish this task of converting dvd to vcd using tmpgenc
This is Totally Simple and there is No need to Make an AVI first as that is useless and Quality degradeing Step that shouldn"t be done in Any Circumstance..Well First you Rip the DVD in "Movie" Mode with "SmartRipper" then you use a Program called DVD2AVI(No it will not make an AVI file) you Load the First Vob file ripped from the DVD into It and the Rest will load automaticly, Now you go to "Audio" and set "Dolby Digital" to "Decode" and set it to "Dolby Surround Downmix", then under the "Video" tab set "Yuv/Rgb" to "TV Scale" now go to "File" to "Save Project" and Gibve the Project file and name, Now DVD2AVI will Make a D2V file and a Wav audio file, Now take the D2V file and Load it into Tmpgenc as the Video source and load the Wav file as the audio source and then Just encode it like Normal...If you get an error saying that the D2V file is Unsupported then Copy the "DVD2AVI.vfp" file from the "DVD2AVI" folder and Paste it into the Tmpgenc Install folder ,now restart Tmpgenc and Load the D2V and Wav files in again and it should Load...
i have saved the project from dvd2avi and it did produce a d2v and a wav file, but tmpgenc won´t open it, i put the dvd2avi.vfp file into the tmpg installation folder and then when i go to select the video source i can at least select it but it gives me an error saying it is unsupported, i also tried the open project option but that did not work either
If you're lazy ... extract the contens to your Tmpgenc directory.
The file DVD2AVI.VFP must be in the tmpgenc dir ... other files don't matter.
Open Tmpgenc, go to options -> environmental settings -> VFAPI plug-in
and make "DVD2AVI Project file reader 1.77.3" the second entry from the top.
(Dunno if that is really needed ...)
I have had this problem before ,and What solved it is To Just Make a New D2V file and Try again...And Make sure the DVD2AVI.vfp Plugin has a High enough priority in the Vfapi Plugins..And I have allways Had the Best results with DVD2AVI 1.76 But 1.77 should work Fine also...
i finally did it!
what i ended up doing was unzipping all the contents from the dvd2avi archive to the tmpgenc installation folder, running dvd2avi, create the project, then in tmpgenc it opened up straight away, wierd how it did not work before.
Anyway, i have just finished encoding robbie williams live at the albert and it took a total time of 3 hours (dvd ripping included)
I'm trying to use TMPGEnc for converting MPEG2 .ts files (transport streams) to MPEG2 program streams.
Here's what I do at the moment:
1. I record Formula 1 digital broadcasts with my satellite receiver.
2. I demux the resulting .ts files using ds.jar (a tool written in Java). I get two audio streams and one video stream as the result. I need both audio streams, since one of these is the track with commentary and the other one contains only ambient and engine sounds.
3. I remux the three streams into an MPEG2 SVCD-type program stream using TMPGEnc.
The resulting MPEG2 file plays correctly in any software DVD player (NVDVD, WinDVD), but they refuse to let me select the audio stream. I tried playing the stream with the otherwise excellent VideoLan client, but it cannot handle the SVCD-type streams and crashes after a few seconds. If, on the other hand, I convert the stuff into a regular MPEG2 program stream (and not an SVCD-type one) the resulting streams play both in software DVD players and in VideoLan. Best of all, VideoLan allows me to select the audio stream as well. The problem is, that if I mux a regular program stream instead of an SVCD one, the audio is out of sync by several seconds.
The problem is in step 3. If I use an SVCD stream, the resulting MPEG2 is in sync. If I use a regular program stream, it's not. Furthermore the fact that I have more than audio stream is irrelevant: If I just take a single audio track to mux with the video track, it's still out of sync.
I would also like to use TMPGEnc's Merge & Cut functionality to chop off the uninteresting parts from the beginning and the end of the stream. However, if I run it on my dual-audio MPEG stream, it throws away one of the audio tracks.
So, are these, in fact, bugs? And will they be fixed? Or does anyone know of software that:
a) allows the muxing of more than one audio stream into a standard MPEG2 program stream with proper sync?
b) has GOP-level MPEG2 cutting (I don't want to re-encode the video just because I want to chop off a minute in the beginning and a minute in the end) that handles more than one audio streams
- or -
a) plays an MPEG2 SVCD stream with multiple audio streams properly and allows selecting the track I want to be played?
No these aren"t Bugs as The Mpeg tools are "Officially" only supposed to be for files that were encoded By Tmpgenc..If you want to be able to edit Bulti stream Mpeg files then Try something like "Womble Mpeg2VCR" as it has a special option Just for De-Muxing TS Streams and it is Made For Frame accurate editing, Plus Tmpgenc"s Mpeg editing Function Does not Support Files that were encoded To VBR, and can cause sync Problems editing Files of this Kind...
I have tried MPEG2VCR, it does not allow more then one audio track per MPEG file so it's not an option. As for the tools in TmpgEnc being only for files created with TmpgEnc itself: MPEG2 is a standard, and if TmpgEnc can't handle them properly then it's broken. As for your remark about VBR: I'm not trying to use VBR files with it: the stuff comes from digital broadcast, hence it's CBR.
Not True, Mpeg2Vcr does allow For Multiple Audio tracks While Muxing, You will see when loading audio files into the Muxer that there is a Dropdown Menu for all of the audio streams, You can even adjust The order of the audio tracks...As For Tmpgenc and Files Not encoded By Tmpgenc, if you read I think it is the Faq it clearly states that it doesn"t Officially support Mpeg2 files encoded By other encoders, Tmpgenc Files are a Little Different that other Mpeg files, Like if you Load a Tmpgenc File into VCDEasy it will give you some sort of error then is Says that iT is probably OK as the File was Probably encoded By Tmpgenc(Or something to that effect) as Not all Mpeg files are Created Equal even if there is a "Standard", Like Most Captured Mpeg files have a Different Data Structure than Other Mpeg files and Files encoded With a Hardware encoder Have a slightly Different Data structure, they are all Mpeg files Just created Differently,AS the Mpeg standard Does Have some leway Just because they conform to a standard doesn"t mean that they are all the same...
True MPEG2VCR does allow multiple audio tracks, but not for SVCD only program streams.
As for selecting audio streams in SVCD. You need to create a real SVCD first. I.E. burn it to disk then most MPEG players such as WinDVD will allow you to select the audio track.
You can't just run the MPEG from the hard dive, it needs to be formatted on disk first to be recognized as SVCD or use some sort of image creation program such as NERO and then load the image into Nero Image drive.
I was just wondering why cutting an mpeg2 program stream takes so long.
Wouldn't it be sufficient to just take the desired part of the file, rewrite the header and safe it?
Instead the whole programm stream is demultiplexed, multiplexed again .... so on
That doesn't seem to make any sense.
I often have to split mpeg2 program streams into two parts ... and TemgEnc gives me a hard time.
I think there is timing data all through the file that needs to be updated on any kind of merge/cut operation. This is a side function of TMPG and is probably not fully optimized.
TMPG is also not the greatest at managing disk IO and this is made much worse if you have highly fragmented and/or slow disks.
What is your definition of "so long". With a 4-way RAID, merge/cut/mux on several GB of data does not seem to take long at all (<5min).
TMPGenc is truly a superior encoder with absolutely superb video quality. However it can be even better with these features:
1. Make it be better at up/downsampling audio. It's not that great it at, and the audio encoding in general produces some hiss.
2. Make it support edited DV AVI files directly without having to use a frame server.
It Does....For audio Go to "Options" to "Enviromental settings" to "Audio Engine" and set the Same Rate converter to "High Quality"...And I have never had a Problem with opening DV AVI files in Tmpgenc, It accepts Both Type 1 and Type 2 and VFW and Direct show and Open DML and Non OpenDML Formats...If you have a Problem in this area Then Post it and Someone Might help.......
Nope, it won't take in some DV-AVI files. If I capture a DV-AVI from my camcorder via firewire and then input that file into TMPGenc, then it works. HOWEVER, if I first edit the file in Premiere, export it to a new DV-AVI file, then it does not want to let me import it into TMPGenc. By the way, thanks for the audio help!
Well that Is Probably because Premeir is Rendering the File to a Different DV Format(Codec) than you are Captureing to ..Make sure you are Useing the "Microsoft DV Codec" as this is the Most compatible with Tmpgenc, and Make sure you have adjusted the Vfapi Plugin Properties tso that it will More easilly accept DV files, Like Maybe try raiseing the "OpenDML" File reader, and If useing a Direct Show DV Codec then Raise the "Direct Show File Reader" or if it is a VFW DV Codec Raise the "VFW File reader"...
This thema has probably already been discussed a few times. Sorry for wasting your time.
I just happened to test the trial version of cinema craft encoder (I know the price is not comparable). It is an eye opener. AVI files which I was giving up trying to encode to satisfaction with tmpg unless spending 40 hours with highest quality (even then still unsatisfied with the result) come back to life with cce. It is absolutely amazing. Or is it just because of the watermark that make you think the image is better ?
I have read of specialists having cce and tmpg and were still using tmpg. I appreciate the ability of tmpg to squeeze an encoding to fit to the disk size.
Is there another encoder still better than cce on the market ? It's like the search of the Grail.
About Pricing: You can buy Cinemacraft Basic for 58 Dollars.
About Encoder: ProCoder is the best one, especially for interlaced Video.
TMPGEnc and CCE are very similar, if you know how to set up TMPGEnc. If you are only using Basic-Settings, then CCE is better.
I wouldn't agree TMPG and CCE are similar.
For me CCE is the best MPEG2 encoder there is, but isn't too hot at MPEG1 encoding.
TMPG shines with MPEG1 and is better than any other encoder on the market at encoding MPEG1, but it can't match CCE for it's MPEG2 quality no matter what settings you use.
CCE is faster, has better control over bitrate, better quality and produces highly compatible results.
However TMPG still produces pretty good results amd better than most other encoders in a similar or higher price range.
I can Beat CCE with TMPGEnc! But only in CQ-Mode (or MVBR) by using special settings. OK, this is nothing, a Newbie can handle, but, hey, ashy, you are definatly not a Newbie. ;)
The Advantage of TMPGEnc over CCE is the flexibility and the much better control over Bitrate (yes, no Joke) - if you know how to do that. With Standard-Settings in TMPGEnc and CCE, CCE is the better Encoder, that's absolutly right. But ONLY with Standard-Settings.
First, i used always TMPGEnc. After that, i used CCE for a while. Now i'm back to TMPGEnc. ProCoder is too expensive.
Well that may be your opinion and if it works for you fine, but I have tried to match the quality of CCE with TMPG before using identical bitrates and even tweaking TMPG's many settings still found that when comparing frames CCE produced better results.
As for bitrate control Iam refering to how the encoder controls the bitrate without going above or below within the set parameters not the actual setting of the bitrates manually.
I have found TMPG to be somewhat lax in this area whereas CCE has always had very tight control of the parameters set.
I agree I have allways Had Much better results and a Much Lower Bitrate with CCE, But I don"t Just load the File in and Encode it there are a Few things you have to do to get the Best result..As CCE doesn"t have Any Real filters I allways Use AVISynth to Frameserve with Filters, and I Use My own Matrix for encodeing and I Allways Turn off any of the Filters in the "Quality" settings..I have been able to Back up a DVD to DVD-R useing a Bitrate Lower than 3000KBS with Great Quality(One Pass VBR 2000KBS-Min 6000kbs-Max "Q" Level at 30-40), so I can Fit 2 Short(90Min) DVD"s On a single DVD-R with Major Real Quality differance when watching on the TV..But It took Me a Long time to Figure out how to tweak the settings so I can get the Result I do..I also use ProCoder Sometimes But it is Just Too slow For the Little Possible Improvement I might get..But one thing I never do is Load a Very Noisy Source File into CCE as it will not do a very good Job, But with some Major Noise Filtering then it does a Great Job..So Guess it depends on How you use CCE and what types of Source you are encodeing..But Hey to each His Own....Cheers
Many thanks for all this interresting information. Now I can continue to work in peace with TMPGenc and AVIsynth. I am slowly finding my way to what looks for me to be the best quality.
I have Win XP. After encoding an AVI, it sounds like the audio is choppy. Like a fan is in front of the speakers. This happens in different places every time I try a clip. I've tried all I know.