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I've just made my first DVD - from a PAL DV source, encoded with TMPGenc Plus in PAL mode, authored with TDA (bought a licence about a month ago but don't know which version as I've upgraded to the new one - 101036 I think) and burned with B's Recorder Gold ...
But rather curiously the Nero Info Tool reports the disc as NTSC 4:3(Mpeg 1 720x480) which it defintiely isn't - is this a bug in Nerd, TDA or B's Recorder and is it likely to cause any playback problems ?
I've just bought a Nero 5.5 licence and burned the same data which is PAL format made by TMPGEnc Plus and TMPG DVD Author (both licensed and paid for copies) ...
And Nero still reports the disc as NTSC 4:3 (Mpeg1 720x480) ... which it definitely isn't - it's PAL 4:3 720x576 Mpeg2 at 25fps as reported by TMPGEnc Plus ...
Since I've now burned this disc using 2 completely independent burners - B's Recorder Gold 5 and Nero 5.5 ... presumably the incorrect header must be the fault of TMPGEnc Plus or TMPG DVD Author ...
Can the technical support for these products explain this - I live in hope but they seem to be very noticeably quiet on this Message Board ...
I was so impressed with free TMPGEnc I bought a licence for both products but I am extremely disappointed with the level of support for a simple question and may consider phoning my credit card company and complaining and requesting a refund ...
It's a simple question peeps ... why is the Nero Info Tool reporting the PAL output from your products as NTSC ???
If you say it's a Nero problem (and B's Recorder Gold) then I'll take the matter up with them ... if it's a TMPG problem, when will you fix it ?
QUOTE:
"If your burning applications report the video as NTSC then you had better believe it."
No, sorry. I have the same error showing on nero infotool when burnt with recordnow max, and the source is home videos shot on a PAL camcorder, not rip-offs of commercial DVDs.
I would certainly not call it an error, a minor irritant perhaps, but only after thorough investigation into how you actually shot, captured and encoded the PAL footage. It's so easy to make a mistake when choosing parameters.
For the ultimate test, load the IFO's into IfoEdit and read off what it shows. If you see NTSC you had better believe it.
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Shot with pal 8mm camcorder, transfered to computer via firewire using sony pal dv camcorder that converts analog tapes to digital, edited with pinnacle studio 8 with all footage showing as pal 720x576, exported to avi, encoded with tmpgenc using pal settings, authored and burnt with tmpgdvd evaluation, plays as expected on pal tv, shows as ntsc with infotool.
Maybe it's nothing more than a description -- like the name of the dvd or the name of the author -- which doesn't affect the content at all. Therefore though it says ntsc, in the words of victor meldrew (for uk only) "I do not belive it".
Ifoedit's report is below - which seems to show TDA has written the Video Manager Menu in NTSC although the track is PAL ... I can play the DVD fine although my player can play NTSC but a couple of friends can't play it - could this explain why ?
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VMG Overview:
Video Manager Menu attributes:
Video: MPEG-1 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (4:3) (pan-scan & letterboxed)
Number of Title Play Maps: 1 (VMG_PTT_SRPT)
Title 1: VTS_1, TTN_1 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 3) (Start Sector 8)
Number of Video Title Sets on this DVD: 1 (VMG_VTS_ATRT)
Title Set 1:
VTS_1 Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
VTS_1 Audio 1: Not Specified (Mpeg-1 ) 2ch 48Kbps 16bps
First play PGC: (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu Language Units: 1
Language Menu Unit 1: []
Language Menu Unit 1: []
Menu 1: [Title-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 2: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 3: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS overview:
Menu attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
SubPicture 1: Not Specified (2-bit rle )
Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: Not Specified (Mpeg-1 ) 2ch 48Kbps 16bps (ID: 0xc0)
Yes it is already possible to batch multiplex with TMPG.
First you must enable the 'Mux://filename' option in the Enviromenral settings. Go to Option Enviromental setting>General then check 'Mux://filename' option.
Next select one of TMPG templates for the type of MPEG you wish to multiplex. I.E. choose either 'VideoCD(NTSC).mcf' for VCD or 'SuperVideoCD(NTSC).mcf' for SVCD
Now load both your Video and audio file and name the output. Click File>Add current project to batch>MPEG file
Do this for each MPEG you wish to multiplex then just run the batch program.
This question has been asked before, but was classified as a 'bug' and not answered. Maybe someone can shed some light on this?
When using tooLame and SSRC, we notice that TMPGEnc creates a temporary wave file before launching tooLame and SSRC. My question:
If that's the case, is it then actually necessary to extract the wav audio from Virtualdub in the first place? What about AVIs with VBR MP3 audio? Can we just TMPGEnc to do all the encoding then?
Why even bother using Toolame at all or SSRC? TMPG now has a high quality mode which is now just as good as Toolame or SSRC. In any case I don't use either. I use third party programs for encoding the audio which is much faster and reduces my total encoding time.
You Have to have Specific Mpeg2 decoder installed before Tmpgenc will load Mpeg2 files...What is the Best way to encode Mpeg2 files with Tmpgenc is to use a program called "DVD2AVI" to Frameserve the M2V file to tmpgenc, It is Much Faster and a More reliable Method..Read the Post below this and It gives a Brief explanation on How to Use DVD2AVI with VoB files ,it is the same for M2V files accept M2V files have no audio...
You are NOT supposed to load Vob files directly into Tmpgenc, Tmpgenc will not Know what Audio track you want and if the audio is AC3 Tmpgenc will not be able To decode it...The Regular method involveds useing a Program called "DVD2AVI", you run this Program and Load the First VOB file into it and the Rest will Load automaticly, Now go to "audio" to "Dolby digital" Choose "Decode", Now go to "File" to "Save Project", It will Leave you with a Wav audio file and a "D2V" Frameserver File that you will use for the Video, Now just load the D2V file in as the Video source and use the wav file as the audio source and encode Like Normal, If It gives you an error about the D2V file being Unsupported the Take the "DVD2AVI.vfp" File from the DVD2AVI Folder and Copy and Paste it onto the Tmpgenc folder, Not tmpgenc should accept the D2V file as the Video source, and do NOT Move, Rename or Delete the VoB file untill after you are Finnished encodeing...
Hello,
I'm using the version 2.58 and i have tested it with 2.511.
I found a problem with demultiplexing a mpeg2-stream with different length of audio and video stream.
I have a MPEG2-Video with different length of audio and video stream. The audio-stream ist about 5% smaller than the video-Stream. In the last 5% of the movie there isn't existing any audio-stream.
If I demultiplex them the video stream will be cut off the last 5%, so the video-stream has the same length as the audio-stream.
Is this a bug, an error or must i do something in the options?
Thanks
PS: Yes, my english is bad. ;-)
The Bug is in your Mpeg file..Mpeg files or any Video file for that matter should have the same Length of Audio and Video ..Try This, Use the Regular de-Muxer NOT the "Simple De-multiplex" and Extract the audio first then extract the Video, hopefully this should work...
yes, the audio-stream had an bug.
I have tried a lot of variants:
"Simple De-multiplex", normal "De-multiplex", first Audio or first Video Stream etc. Nothing has function.
With another tool, i had demultiplex and then multiplex with the correct audio stream without problems.
Well This is Probably because the audio in the AVI file is of a Format that is not supported By Tmpgenc..You will have to use something like "AVI-Mux" to extract the audio from the AVI file to WAV format, then use the wav filr as the audio source in tmpgenc...
>Well This is Probably because the audio in the AVI file is of a Format that is not supported By Tmpgenc..You will have to use something like "AVI-Mux" to extract the audio from the AVI file to WAV format, then use the wav filr as the audio source in tmpgenc...
This is probably REALLY lazy but does anyone have a link for avi-mux or whatever the prog was mentioned above?
Well your Right ,It is Really Lazy as I"ll have to do the Work for you, ...Try Here : http://www.divx-digest.tv/software/edit/avimux04.zip..What you do is Load your File into it and it should come up with a line saying Video and a Line saying Audio and each Line will have a Box next to is, Un-Check the Video and Leave the Audio checked, Now Right click on the Audio Line and Choose compression as Being "Wav" or "No compression",(I"m dong this From Memory so it might not be Exactly Right), now save it as an AVI file and when it makes the avi File Just re-name it to Wav..Now use the Wav file as the audio source...
I have a strange problem. Everytime I work with TMpg the dialog boxes don't appear in the middle of the screen. They appear on the right bottom, so that I can only see the corner of the windows. The rest is outside of the screen. I first have to pull the windows back to the middle and when I open another window it is off screen again...
I know this sounds strange and maybe this is a problem with my windows (Win 2000 Pro). But I only have this problem with TMpg and I want to know if someone else heard of that. Although I fear I will end up with a reinstallation of windows... :(
I am having loads of trouble...
I will start from the beginning...
I have 20 little movies on a dvd that a friend of mine burned.
I tried to merge them together into one movie so I can durn a disk with chapters in dvditse but I have no audio..so...
I have de-multiplexed each movie and have a m2v and an ac3 for each one.
then I did simple multiplex and once again merged and got no audio...
Then I put the ac3 into besweet and made a .wav of the audio
put .wav into tmpge and made .wav into mp2
Went back to simple multiplex and got the error that this audio is not supported.
Then I changed the .wav into mpa and tried agaion and got the same problem.
I am new at this so hopefully I am just making some beginners mistake.
i appreciate the help in advance!!!!
My ultimate goal is to merge these 20 or so movies together and edit the one movie and put into dvditse to put chapter points.
You can't use TMPG to merge movies with Ac3.
As you have discovered you will lose the audio.
If these movies are in VOB format all you need is a VOB merging program such as VOBMerge.
VOBMerge will also merge normal MPEGs. http://www.angelfire.com/nc/evilmastr/vobmain.html
Thanks ashy but... I tried vobmerge.
Got the vob from my dvd and tried to input it but got the error message file denied. as a matter of fact no vob from any disk will be inputed. What now am I doing wrong!!!!!
thanks
If you are Running XP or Win2000 with a NTSF File system then you can Use Smartripper to Rip the DVD to One Big Vob file so you will not need to Merge them, You can also use it to extract all of the audio to on Big AC3 File if you want...
Hmm... you can't just merge VOBs straight from a DVD.
VOBs are encrypted on DVD for copy protection which is why it won't work. You need to rip the VOBs to your Hard drive first with Smartripper.
Also any file which has the read only option checked in it's properties will also cause this and this will be the case with any file on a disk.
Today I had to merge several (about 40) MPEG-clips together. Each hat an Intro and Outro, which I wanted to cut out. So I had to set the range for each clip one by one. That was kinda awkward, so I'm asking, could you build in one of the next versions of TMPGEnc a small function, which allows it to apply one range setting for all MPEG-files to be merged?
Then there is something I would like to ask. I recently came across another encoder "cinema craft". It seems to have a more efficient encoding algorithm, since it encodes almost twice as fast as TMPGEnc does. Are you working on a better algorithm to improve TMPGEnc's performance?
Yes CCE Is a Better Mpeg2 encoder and On My CPU it is allmost 5 times as Fast(Encode a 2 hour movie in less than an hour), I don"t think the Feature you are asking for (If I understand it Correctly) would be Very Benificial to very many Poeple, Not many Poeple will have a Bunch of files that have the Exact amount of Video to cut out of the exact same spot in every single file, Meaning Not many poeple are going to have to edit out For instance 22.3 seconds off of the beginning of 40 Files..Do you see what I mean, and the Tmpgenc Editor is supposed to be for Just very basic editing, and it isn"t even very good at that as it does not support the accurate editing of VBR encoded Mpeg files, and When joining many files they have a Habit of going out of sync..If you want a Full purpose Mpeg editing try something like "Womble Mpeg2VCR" but even that doesn"t have the feature you are asking for I don"t think any editor has that Feature and I own a Lot of different ones....Cheers
Regarding Cinemcraft your comments about Cinemacraft encoder.
Yes this is a more efficient encoder, but it also costs many, many times more.
Also Cinemacraft only has the advantage of speed and better quality where MPEG2 is concerned. For MPEG1 TMPG beats it hands down and as far as I know there is no better MPEG1 encoder.
Secondly the interface to Cinemacraft leaves a lot to be desired. It just simply cannot compare to TMPG as far as features are concerned. You name another encoder that offers as much as TMPG for the cost.
Also the main reason TMPG is slower is because it can only decode in RGB rather than YUV such as Cinemacraft. This causes a serious speed penalty in TMPG and I and certain others have asked for this feature to be introduced. The only problem being it would mean a major rewrite in the code. Hopefully in a future version this important features will be introduced, but until then if your not happy with the speed of TMPG then I suggest you stump up $2000.
This is what I did. I opened TMPGEnc and it took me to the Project Wizard. I selected the Video CD and selected NTCS. Then I put the avi file from Kazaa in the Video File but I didnt put anything in the Audio File because I dont know what to put. Then it took me to the filter settings but I didnt know what to do so I pushed next. The it took me to the Bitrate Settings but I just pushed next again. The I saved it in my folder and pushed next. Then it started to convert it but after it was done the movie still didnt show the picture. Can you tell me what I did wrong and can you tell me what to put in the Audio File. Thanks
OK..Well the Audio Probably didn"t Show up because either you do not have the right codec to decode it or which is more likely the audio in the AVI file is Of a Format that is Unsupported By Tmpgenc, What you would have to do is Use a seperate Program to Extract the audio from the AVI file to a Useable Format,Wav format is the best..Tmpgenc Can not decode AC3 Audio and VBR MP3, and they Both can be a bitch to extract Properly especially VBR Mp3..If the audio is VBR Mp3 I would use a Program called "VirtualDub_Mod" ,If it is AC3 I would use "AVI-Mux", You can use AVI-Mux For Both Formats..The Problem with No Video Can Usually be fixed By running Tmpgenc then go to "options" to "Enviromental Settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and then Raise the "Direct show" Priority To "2"..Now the Video should be in the File, You will know if there is Video in the File if you can see your Video being Encoded in the Tmpgenc Screen..A Good Place to read up on How to Properly Make VCD"s ,SVCD"s or DVD"s and to Solve Problems that Can arise is: http://www.dvdrhelp.com/", Or if you ever get really stuck you can e-mail me....Cheers
I had trouble getting TMPGenc to open my xvid .AVI. So initially I went to www.doom9.org, got codecs for XviD files and more. Next I did some searching and found this advice, it turned out to be a golden nugget:
"...TMPGEnc is an excellent encoder for making VCD's... Just change the priorities as follows in your TMPGEnc->Options->Environmental Settings->VFAPI plug-in:
And now you wont even need to frameserve - just load the XviD files into TMPGEnc as you would any standard AVI file and encode as you wish
These settings I have used in TMPGEnc for converting a DivX file to mpeg and then taking the mpeg and useing it in nero (or whatever) to make a svcd or vcd."
After I did this, I learned to "tweak" the bitrate to get the right size/good quality from using the search and reading the already posted info in this BBS.
It is actually better to use FFDShow instead of the XviD codec for decodeing files as you can and many times do get a NTDLL.dll error when decodeing XviD useing the Xvid Codec...