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I am having serious problems with the quality of my DVD movie. I have created a movie into AVI format. I use tmpgenc to encode this to mpeg2 for DVD quality and use dvdit se to create the disc. Problem is the color is no longer sharp but more dull, I notice some blurriness to the video, screen transitions dont run smooth and the video doesnt run smooth. After looking for proper settings on the net, i cannot find any good recommendations on proper settings in tmpgenc.
Any suggestions on general settings for ntsc format on a 4:3 screen?
I feel your pain brother!!!! I can get a great loooking MPEG-1 file and play it on my home dvd player useing a standard CD, but when i try to make a DVD it looks a blocky and runs like its POPPING or hesitating. I have tried raising and lowering the BITRATE settings and even trying different methods, such as VBR and CQ settings and NOTHING, helps!!! This just plain out right sucks. I myself and LOST.
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I had no audio when I tried to convert, so I used VirtualDub to extract the audio. Still no audio when i tried again. I looked at the .wav file and I realized it is half as long as it should be. No matter how I extract it with VirtualDub, it comes out half as long. When I try to completely re-encode the avi with VirtualDub, the audio is missing from the last half. This has happened with two very professionally done fansubs I have downloaded lately. Both show up as Divx MPEG-4 when I look at the file info in VirtualDub.
Any ideas? I have converted hundreds of avi files to vcd compliant mpg, but this has only happened to me twice, and in the past month. Are there any new codecs that I should be aware of, or any new formats? I really want to get this stuff off my harddrive and onto disk.
just to add a little oddity, when I drag the AVI files I mention above over with Nero, it doesn't complain. I haven't wanted to waste a CD to try, but shouldn't it say that they aren't vcd compliant and offer to reencode?
What details does Virtualdub give about the audio?
Why not try a different program to extract the wav such as AVIMUX which is free and can handle all sorts of types of audio inculding Ac3 and is able to simply extract or extract and re-encode to another audio format.
I tried extracting the wav in full processing mode, and it worked, I got the whole thing. I have no idea why. I am gonna go back and try it with the other file I had the trouble with. The process I am using is:
1. Rip the audio in full processing mode (~70 meg wav for a 7 minute clip).
2. Save the AVI as "Direct Stream Copy" with NO AUDIO in VirtualDub.
3. Assemble the wav and avi in TMPGEnc to make the VCD.
In a series of 15 clips, I only had to do this with the last 3 or 4, so I dunno if they changed settings upgraded to a different codec or what. Freaked me out though. I was to the point of re-downloading the clips... Hope this helps someone else.
if the audio in an avi is not in wav forrmatt then u HAVE to use full processing mode and select uncompressed or u will just be extracting the audio format as is.look in file information in virtual dub to see what formatt the audio is. ALso, i don't think u have to demux the avi to use it as a video source only unless thats the only thing that worked for u.....intersting
Lupy is absolutely right on both accounts. You must use Full processing and set the decompression to PCM otherwise you will just be extracting the audio as is.
Also as Lupy says there is no need to demux the avi, just load it as is into TMPG and load your extracted wav as the audio.
Hey does anyone know how to add thumbnail chapters to cd's? I want to make my cd's look like the DVD's with a thumbnail pic of each chapter sceen. I use VCDEasy is there a better program, with more features?
A good Authoring Program For adding Chapters and Menue"s to VCD/SVCD/DVD"s is "Ulead DVD Workshop" it has an easy to learn Interface produces fairly good Quality Movies and is a Easy program to find..There is a Functional Demo version at the ulead Web site at :www.ulead.com/
VCDEASy is a Very basic authoring program that just offers options for chapters were Ulead Offers Unlimited Chapters and Menu"s and Motion titles, motion Menu"s and lots of other stuff that a basic program like VCDeasy doesn"t have..
After loading a file and clicking on it, then edit, I get a blue screen with a fatal exception error message. It has only just started to do this. I've uninstalled and re-installed TMPGEnc but get the same result. Any advice greatly appreciated.
I've got tmpgenc installed on a pc (P3, 500 MHz) and on a Notebook (1200 Mhz Celeron). When trying to open the same *.avi on both conputers, the program on the notebook does not recognize the audio-source and the created mpeg does not contain any sound. What can I do about this problem? It's the same tmpgenc-version and the same *.avi-file.
The biggest problem people have with avi files is they don't realize avi is a generic term. It is the most widely used audio/video format on Windows platforms. However it is not at all the easiest file to play. Because it is not compressed with one specific codec, rather it is a file that can be compressed (or completely uncompressed) with any one of hundreds of codecs (examples: divx, MPEG-4v2, Indeo 3.2, I263, Cinepak etc.).
AVI means "Audio Video Interleave".
So you need to find the codec for the avi, probally Divx. You must have it installed on Pc and not Laptop
thanx for your answer. The problem is not the codec, the problem are two different pc's with (almost) identic software that don't work with identic movies in the same way.
After choosing the video file the notebooks program doesn't show the automatically selected audio file like the program on the other pc does. Watching the same *.avi on both works, but using temgenc does't work on one of them. What could be wrong?
Your problem is that the audio in your AVI file is not supported in Tmpgenc ,Most audio formats aren"t, you need to extract the audio from the AVI file to a WAV file with something like "Virtual Dub" or "sound Forge" then use the WAV audio file as the audio source...You should do this with ALL files...
I'm trying to change the mpg file size. Some files are to large and some are too small. When I change the quality setting the file size is about the same? I have it set to 65% if it dosent change the output file why not have it set higher by default. Whats best to change when you want to make the file bigger or smaller.
My current settings are:
svcd
480x480
cq 65% 4000x1800
Haveing the Quality setting on 65% is way to low, up it to 85% , but there is no way to predict the final file size with CQ so it is a lot of Trial and error..
I have to disagree here.
65% is ideal for the bitrates you are using. I know because those are the settings I use and have tried and tested them many times.
With that Q setting your bitrates should should stay at the lower end yet still be at a comfortable bitrate to prevent macroblocks in most scenes and only needing to go up to the higher end when needed.
This will allow you to fit a regular movie on 2 disks. I would think 85% will take the bitrate to high unecessarily causing the file size to be too large for 2 disks and it will make a difference to the size depending on the type of movie you are using.
If you wish to reduce the file size slightly then why not reduce the audio bitrate to 128 kb/s. If that won't be enough then reducing the min bitrate by 200 kb/s and the Q slider accordingly by 5% should roughly give about a 100mb reduction in file size.
Minion the reason you are getting macro blocks is because you probably have the Min bitrate set too low even though you have a high Max bitrate and a high quality setting.
Anything below 1800kb/s WILL result in macro blocks. 1800 kb/s is the lowest you can go without noticable macro blocks appearing in normal scenes.
So then when your never use less than 1800, even if you need to reduce the file size. What about using the CD's that hold larger amounts like 90 or 99 minutes?
Are you planning to develop an international version of the program, I mean with the interface in French, German,.. and others languages. This would expand the range of your customers, not everybody fully understands english !
A good way to do that is text based language files, that means that you program uses a text file for all the text of the program, when you or someone else wants to make a translation they just copy and rename the file and change the text according to their language.. more and more programmers do that because it's so easy and many internet users help you and translate the files because they want to be using your great software in their own tongue !
as in, have several files and create a playlist? yes.
setting --> advanced --> source range. select the in and out for your first chapter, file menu and go add current project to batch list. go back to source range and choose the in and out for your next chapter... etc.
But WHY???? any authoring program worth useing Will have an option to manually set the chapter points your self without Butchering the file into Pieces...
Split files usually end up as different titles on the authored DVD. This causes a hesitation when going from one to another on most players.
Dazzle DVD Complete has the best chapter/thumbnail/motion menu selection method I have seen. (But it doesn't accept 16:9 so I went to Ulead and have to live with MUCH clunkier motion menu setup.)
Hi. I've had no problems with TMPEGEnc... until now. Any .AVI I produce with Adobe After Effects causes problems in TMPEGEnc. TMPEGEnc compress to MPEG-2 without error. Then I demux. But, BbMpeg will not mux. It says "cannot read input file." Also, DVD player software cannot play the .mpg file from TMPEGEnc. This is ONLY with video that originally came from After Effects.
I would also like to add that if I demux and remux in TMPEGEnc, the result is the same -- Software players cannot play the resultant system stream. In fact it appears that it plays video of the first GOP, then stops. The audio continues for a few seconds, then stops.
What format are the AVI files you are inporting to Tmpgenc...Try raiseing the "Direct Show File reader" that sometimes helps Tmpgenc read certain files better..or you can try to frame serve the file with Virtual Dub..
Are you saying that once encoded to MPEG from the AVI that the files cannot be played or re-muxed?
If TMPG can encode the file to MPEG then it doesn't make sense that you can't play it unless the AVI's you are exporting are at some weird resolution or something and you are encoding the MPEG to the same resolution.
This is the way I make Vcd's!!!You will have to find and download some of these programs yourself
After ripping the vob files with Smart Ripper I use DVD2AVI to create my dv2 file for frameserving to TMPGEnc for the Video only. In Audio>Tracks>(select)NONE.
After opening the vob file(the first one) under video>FIELD Operaton>(Select)Force Film.then File>Save Project. This will create your dv2 file for the video in TMPGEnc.
Then I use VOB2Audio to create the Wav file.The program is pretty straight forward. Hopefully you will have ripped a lst file(if you ripped the movie and not a backup(in SmartRipper)) If you don't have a lst file you need VobListMaker from AD Software.
In TMPGENc load the template for VideoCD NTSC FILM,change the motion search presision to HighQuality(slow), Highest quality doesn't do much but takes way longer.
Change the Video Arrange method to Full screen(keep AspectRatio) in the advanced TAB
In Options>Enviromental Settings>External Tool, check external Audio Encoder Layer2and browse for your exe. for SCMPX(which I like better than TooLame for an external audio encoder).
Check USE by Sampling frequency converter and browse for exe. for SSRC(a good sample rate converter)
No your ready to encode. Good Luck!!!
I have spend about 2 years testing and trying different programs and settings, This way works great. If you have any questions you can emailme.
just a suggestions but there are much better quality compression codecs to use than mpeg1.
if you want to watch your movie in a dvd player, then mpeg 1 is probably the most convenient since you will use less cds. mpeg2 (SVCD) will give you much better quality and still allow you to play it in a DVD player but you can only fit so much on one cd, and your movie ends up spanning 4 cds...
however if you have tv-out in your computer , or just want to watch movies on your computer, DivX is definitely the best way to go. You can fit a whole movie onto one cd and you won't notice the lossy compression if you output it to TV. www.divx.com. you should be able to find a bitrate calculator on vcdhelp.com to help you work out a bitrate, and there are plenty of guides around on how to get the best quality out of the least size.
I personally wouldn"t advise you to use the "Forced Film" option, which only works on Film sources..If you plan on Makeing Chapters or Menue"s then you Can"t use the forced film option cuz most Good VCD/SVCD authoring programs that allow you to do Chapters and menues don"t allow you do Use Files that are 23.9FPS, and if you live in NTSC Land Why not use the Higher Quality Interlaced video instead of Film, but I guess it is a personal taste...
First of all if I'm reading your question right then you wish to make DVD's not VCD/SVCD's.
Your best bet to preserve quality and save time is to us IFOEDIT which can strip all the unwanted menus and files from a DVD. Leaving you with a smaller file, but with the main menus intact thus allowing you to burn to a regular DVD.
If you really do wish to create VCD or SVCD then DVD2AVI is the way to go.
Iam going to agree with dgold1009 here. It is best to use the FORCEDFILM option with DVD2AVI if you are using NTSC disks. This will return the DVD back to it's original progressive state as long as the original DVD is originally 23.97 film which most are.
This will save you a whole host of problems. One of them most importantly is interlacing artifacts. A progressive movie has no interlacing artifacts whatsoever and should be of better quality than an interlaced movie.
The second reason is file size. A 23.97 movie is smaller than a 29.976 movie.
Once you have created the project file with DVD2AVI all you need then do is encode to MPEG2 and add 3:2 pulldown to make the movie 29.976 fps. Choosing the 'SuperVideoCD (NTSCFilm)' template will do this for you and your movie will be re-encoded to 29.976 which is the correct framerate for NTSC.