How many people here actually use the plus version ?
Is it worth purchasing if all Im going to be doing is converting DIVX to XVCD ?

I know it has a few whistles and bells, but is the plus version going to offer me any radical chnages that will improve my encoding by a noticeable amount ?

P.S Yes I have read the readme on the plus version, I'm just interested what peoples opinions are

There isn"t really any reason if you are just doing mpeg1/vcd accept that it is faster, but if you are doing mpeg2/svcd/dvd then it is worth the price cuz the mpeg2 encodeing is better and faster with the plus version.

Thanks ...

I'm not sure about the faster encoding Minion as I think the speed is the same for both versions as they both use the same version encoding engine. I must say that I haven't noticed any speed improvement using the plus version compared to the standard version.

The thing I would say to you Olli is that it is obvious you want that bit of extra quality compared to VCD as you are encoding XVCD. If this is the case then it is likely you will eventually want to encode to MPEG2 as SVCD is superior in quality to VCD. Once you have got the hang of MPEG2 encoding it is unlikely you would want to go back to MPEG1 providing your player can handle SVCD.

I have created some excellant SVCD's which just could not be matched by XVCD and with a few tweaks here and there manage to get most of my movies on 2 cd's with a nice quality.

Basically all I'm saying is if your serious about quality, MPEG2 is the only way to go and for that you need the plus version.

ASHY

Plus, by purchasing, you get to support the makers of TMPG--an awesome program!

I have noticed about 10% quicker encodeing for mpeg2 on the plus version on my 1.7ghz system as opposed to the demo version but I didn"t really notice any differance on my old 800mhz system...

Thanks for the info guys ...
Ashy ..unfortunately my DVD player doesnt handle SVCD.

I have heard that it is possible to 'fool' the player by creating an SVCD and then re-writing the header as MPEG1 instead of MPGEG2 so the player thinks it is playing a VCD but I havent tried this yet.

What advantage is there to me creating SVCD's seeing as my XVCD's are already at SVCD bitrate (ca 2500) and resolution (480x576). Does MPEG2 produce a better quality image ?

thanks

Olli

I downloaded the program and tried to install it when I do I get a message "This archive is not a valid Zip archive". I delete the file and tried to download it 4 other time and every time I get the same message. Is there only one specific type of zip program that will open this file? The zip I am using is Camzip and I never have trouble opening other files. How can I get this program installed?

I have know idea why it isn"t working but if you leave your e-mail I or someone could e-mail the demo to you....

Thank You I have my email on this message Dan

The problem is almost certainly the decompression program you are using. It is known that TMPG does not unzip correctly with certain programs.

Try Winrar, it never seems to have any problems like this.

ASHY

Winrar doesn't work ether I keep get all types of error messages.

If Winrar is giving you an error and you are using a recent version then there must be somehthing wrong with the zip file.
There are two things you can try. One is download the program from another source. The second is do not use a download manager when downloading.

ASHY

Dear All ,

I have capture my movie from Digital Camcorder and finished editing that.
So now I want to convert to Movie File with TMPGENC, but what should I do ?
I just now TMPGENC only cpnvert the source movie file not from Ulead.
Thanks for your help...

Thanks
Bob

If your edited movie is a Ulead Progect File you will have to render in avi format then encode the avi with tmpgenc to mpeg cuz you can"t use Tmpgenc as a plugin for Ulead.You can use the Ulead Mpeg encoder but it sucks pretty bad but it is pretty quick.You could render it as DivX 4.12 or 5.0 with a really high bitrate so as not to loose much quality then encode the divX to mpeg with tmpgenc.If you are going to edit videos then encode them to mpeg you should try a different editing program that allows for mpeg encoder plugins like "Adobe Premier" which you can get a whole slew of encoders for like LSX,CinemaCraft,Panasonic Mpeg1, or you could get a mpeg codec that allows you to render in mpeg format.......

Thanks very very much Minion for your response and solution.
Yah, I Know Primier is better, but I just beginner in this, So I think Primier is more technical for me.
I Ever install Primier in my PC, and I've failed to connect my camcorder from Primier, My is not detect by Primier. Just for your info, I've use Primier 6.0 and my Cam is Panasonic NV-DS28 (Digital) .
Could you please help me to give me some reference or guide about how to use and setting Adobe Primier ? or maybe you can give me Web address.
Once again Thanks for your help.

Bob

What I do is capture with a different capture program the import the avi file into Premier for editing,I find ulead media studio 6.5 just as complicated as premier or even more complicated but the encoder plugins for Premier generally arent as good as Tmpgenc accept for CinemaCraft which costs a fortune, you should just render your ulead projects into avi files and then encode them to mpeg with tmpgenc.I have been experimenting with "Sonic foundry"s Vegas Video" and it is a really good and fast video editor and you can get an mpeg1 and mpeg2 codec for rendering and it is fairly good quality and on my system it renders to mpeg in close to real time.But if you want to find out more about Premier go to http://www.adobe.com/ you can download an instruction manual there.......

Hi,

I have encoded a DVD using a capture from my DV500 card (SVideo and L/R Audio channels), edited in Premiere and encoded in Tmpgenc. Everything looks great and when authored the menu is perfect and plays in my stand alone player. The only issue is the audio on the DVD does not play when my receiver is set to auto. I have to switch my receiver to Analog mode to hear the sound. Funny thing is the the audio (WAV file) I put on the menu plays perfect in Auto (PCM) mode. Once the movie plays, it's silent until switched to Analog.

I believe it's something to do with the audio in the Mpeg file itself. When I encoded the file in Tmpgenc, I left the Audio Mode to Sereo, should it have been dual channel or is there something else I have to do to the audio?

Any help is greatly appreciated.
I'm so close t finally understanding this long process and making a functional disc.

Thanks.

Whenever I try to convert my AVI file from a Sony TRV530 digital camcorder to Mpeg 2, I get horizontal lines in all of my frames, please let me know how to fix this.

Thanks!

Those are "interlace lines" and to get rid of then use the "de-interlace filter" in the "advanced settings"........

A frame with no motion should have no "horizontal lines". Look for that before doing anything drastic.

VirtualDub has a great selection of de-interlacers. Load the AVI into VirtualDub and frameserve to TMPGEnc. For clean video, the standard deinterlacer set to blend, followed by "sharpen, 10-20" produces good results.

Some say that deinterlacing is no good if you are creating a DVD for viewing on a TV. In my tests, "blend" deinterlacing looks fine because is creates a motion blur effect.

Interpolated deinterlacing (needed for extreme motion) would probably look jerky on a TV (30fps, no motion blur). Extreme motion cases require a tough decision: it can look good on a TV (in motion) or a computer (frame by frame), but not both.

For the best de-interlace solution nothing beats AVIsynth.

ASHY

If I have bought TMPG Plus, how and where do I upgrade? (Simple, huh!?)

What do you mean ,did you buy the last version and want to upgrade to the new version???If thats all you want to know you just go and download the new plus version from the banner below and it will register itself if you are intitled to a free upgrade......

Re-enter your registration code in the upgraded version.

Griff

I tried to download the TMPGENC free version and the TMPGENC Plus trial version but when I try to unzip or open the files I get error messages. Please Help!

Keep downloading it untill it works and don"t use any download managers...and make sure your winzip or winrar is up to date...

First off, I'm new to the world of DVD ripping and video converting...
I recently downloaded the free version of 2.56 and while using it, I noticed that it has placed (or encoded) a logo or watermark (consisting of 9 small blocks in the upper right corner) into EVERY mpeg video I have on my computer, regardless of whether I used the TMPEnc program on it or not.

To say the least, I'm not please with this. How can I remove these watermarks / logos? I have removed the program from my computer, but the watermarks / logos remain.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!
Aaron

The water mark is due to the fact that you have installed the Elecard MPEG2 codec on your system.

Uninstall this and your watermark problem will disappear.

ASHY

Thanks for the fast response. I've done a search on my computer for 'elecard' but the search turned up nothing. How do I locate this file for deletion? What folder would it be in or name is used for it?

Thanks again.
Aaron

Copy the text below into a text file and give it the name unregister.bat then run it.

regsvr32 /u /s audionull.ax
regsvr32 /u /s pim2null.ax
regsvr32 /u /s mpgdec.ax
regsvr32 /u /s mpeg2dmx.ax
regsvr32 /u /s ac3dec.ax

ASHY

I my old computer I had the same Elcard mpeg2 codec and it doesn"t put the watermark on your file it just displays the watermark when you are useing the codec to decode the file for viewing so when you burn the mpeg to a cd-r or dvd the watermark shouldn"t be there but is a bit anoying seeing that thing in the corner when you want to watch your mpeg files.......

Minion is right it doesn't actully affect the file itself. The watermark is just overlayed when the file is played back.

As for the instructions above. I have just realised it won't work without actually running it in the Elecard MPEG2 folder itself.

Some where on your PC you must have folder which maybe named EMpgDec. In this folder is a file called unregister.bat. Run this and the codec will be removed.

If you can't find the folder, do a search for ' mpgdec.ax '. This file will be contained in the Elecard folder.

Any one knows how I can convert 24fps PAL (that is, every 12th frame is shown for 3 fields) to 25fps PAL?

I had some success using Inverse Telecine with the following pattren:

1010101010101010101010100-1010101010101010101010100-...

However, since it's manual setting it doesn't look to see that it's selecting the correct frames all the time (unlike the auto setting for example). Anyone knows if there is any way to allow TMPGENC to monitor it?

Thanks,
ABS

I wouldn't have thought it would have possible to use the IVTC for this. Firstly because it is primarily used for removing 3:2 pulldown and is used for removing frames not adding as you are trying to do.

The only way I know to do this and is the correct way as far as I know is to simply speed up the movie so it has a framerate of 25 fps.

The way to do this is to load the MPEG( if it's MPEG1) into Virtualdub and change the framerate there then frameserve that to TMPG.

You will also have to extract the audio from the file to a wav and use cool edit or sound forge to shrink the file, so it matches the length of the re-encoded movie.

If the source is MPEG2 then you would have to load the file into TMPG, make a project file then convert that to a dummy AVI with the VFAPI converter and then load that into Virtualdub and frameserve it back to TMPG.

ASHY

Well, I don't add frames I actually remove each 25th field...
As I said, In this "24fps PAL" each 12th frame is shown for 3 fields which makes a delay when you play the video... After doing the above You get 25fps (now already sped up by 4%) where all frames are actualy progressive (or seem to be progressive anyway). The results I achive are very good, but the only disadvantage is that it's done manually so I have to move frame by frame to see it allways drops the correct fields...

Unless I would drop that extra field I would have to speed up the film to an odd 26.041 fps so internally it would be 25... And that's a problem on it's own...

ABS

Wait a minute youv'e got me quite confused here. Are you trying to convert 25 fps to 24 fps or 24 fps to 25 fps.

I don't understand how adding extra fields can create a movie with less frames per second.
This all seems back to front.

As far as I'm aware the reason for adding an extra field every 12th frame would be to create an extra frame every 24 frames. This gives a movie with the same length, but with an increased framerate thus giving 25 fps and what's known as 24:1 pulldown.
It is only the same as 3:2 pulldown, but in a modified way. 3:2 pulldown uses an alternating pattern to overlay 1 frame on to 3 fields, these extra fields are which turn a 24 fps movie into a 30 fps movie not the other way around. When using IVTC these fields are then removed to return the movie back to a 24 fps progressive state.

As far as I was aware adding fields is a way to increase the framerate not reduce it. I have never come across such a thing as a 24 fps PAL movie and it wouldn't make sense to create one. Film rate is 24 fps progressive anyway and could be directly transferred.

Also it was my understanding that IVTC removes these extra fields thus returning a 25 fps PAL movie back to it's original 24 fps progressive state.
Everything you have said is back to front, the way you have descibed it would turn a 25 fps PAL movie into a progressive 24 fps movie.

ASHY

Wait a minute youv'e got me quite confused here. Are you trying to convert 25 fps to 24 fps or 24 fps to 25 fps.

I don't understand how adding extra fields can create a movie with less frames per second.
This all seems back to front.

As far as I'm aware the reason for adding an extra field every 12th frame would be to create an extra frame every 24 frames. This gives a movie with the same length, but with an increased framerate thus giving 25 fps and what's known as 24:1 pulldown.
It is only the same as 3:2 pulldown, but in a modified way. 3:2 pulldown uses an alternating pattern to overlay 1 frame on to 3 fields, these extra fields are which turn a 24 fps movie into a 30 fps movie not the other way around. When using IVTC these fields are then removed to return the movie back to a 24 fps progressive state.

As far as I was aware adding fields is a way to increase the framerate not reduce it. I have never come across such a thing as a 24 fps PAL movie and it wouldn't make sense to create one. Film rate is 24 fps progressive anyway and could be directly transferred.

Also it was my understanding that IVTC removes these extra fields thus returning a 25 fps PAL movie back to it's original 24 fps progressive state.
Everything you have said is back to front, the way you have described it would turn a 25 fps PAL movie into a progressive 24 fps movie.

ASHY

Sorry about the double post,just an accident.
Regarding the 4% speed up you mentioned this is only used for 2:2 pulldown where a progressive movie has each frame telecined into 2 fields to create the proper interlacing for the PAL format and is then speeded up by 4% and then has a time correction and pitch correction added to the audio to sync it with the movie which is what I was saying in my original suggestion for turning a 24 fps movie into a 25 fps movie.

ASHY

why can't load P3Package.dll

or why "Read error occurred at address 00402F40 of module 'TMPGEnc.exe' with A3C685A2" ???

It sounds like you are trying to use the program straight from the zip file, you must extract the exe folder to a seperate folder/location, this will put the program files/dll package etc in the same location so the dll package can load, hope this helps!!

The extracted files need to go in the same directory as the TMPG files. The install then takes care of the rest.

/simon

can somebody tell me what the last person just said in plain english? cause umm i moved all the tmpg stuff into my C drive..and if that don't work how can i uninstall this? i've been searching for a way to uninstall it and try to re-install it and so far no success..

Being new to this stuff I tried to look in the FAQ's first. I'm sure this has been asked countless times before (it probably should be in the FAQ's).
How do I get rid of those square blocks of motion edges. I have a high quality avi and have moved the bit rate around but they still appear.

The higher the bitrate the less blocks you will see. I you want no blocks, and providing they are not there in the original movie, you will have to raise the bitrate high enough until they disappear.

ASHY

When converting theres sound but no Picture HELP

Try raiseing the priority of the direct show filter, you do this by going to "options" to "enviromental settings" to "vfapi plugins" and raise the direct show file reader" to "2", and make sure you have the proper codecs to decode the avi file........