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Hi,
I have my system set up with a box to the internet running win2k server with terminal services (well firewalled) I leave this box on mostly whilst my other XP machine just goes on when I need to line something up to download.. anyhow ...
I'd really like to use my win2k machine to tmpgenc some avi files, but one of the restrictions of terminal services is that the audio device is disabled, so when I start a TS session and try and encode all I can get is the Video.
I was really just wondering why TMPGenc relies on an audio card being present when all it is really doing reading a file and writing a file and not using sound (well not in the encoding).
Is it possible that I could modify tmpgenc so it doesnt rely on my disabled sound card ? All the audio codecs I need are installed its just the TS's thats disabling the soundcard..
This has nothing to do with the audio being disabled by the server or even TMPG relying on the sound card.
Your problem is that you do NOT have the correct codec installed to decode the audio in the AVI. Find out what the audio is in the AVI. If it's ac3 you will need the Ac3ACM decompresser installed or extract the Audio to a wav with Virtualdub _ac3 or virtualdubmod. If it is VBR mp3 then extract it to a wav with Virtualdub.
hmm, I thought I had already stated that I had all the codecs installed ... how do I know this ? .. well I guess I have to be very specific since you dont believe me..... If I log on locally on my terminal server machine and play the video I get sound ok.
Barrie.
>hmm, I thought I had already stated that I had all the codecs installed ... how do I know this ?
Yes and you seem to misunderstand me also and the way TMPG works, so lets not get sarcy.
Don't expect TMPG to be able to use the same codecs that media players can use. TMPG will only work with certain ones especially Ac3 codecs.
TMPG doesn't like certain Directshow codecs. This one is VFW compatible codec which TMPG prefers.
Just because you can play it in your media player it doesn't mean TMPG can decode it.
So lets start again shall we?
Find out what type of audio you have in your AVI by using a program such as Virtualdubmod or Virtualdub_ac3 or something like Gspot then if it Ac3, download the afore mentioned codec and install it.
You should then have audio.
If you don't want to take the advice of someone who has given the same sound advice to many others and solved their problem then don't bother asking again.
I can assure you Iam no idiot and am well versed enough with TMPG to know what I'm talking about
Oooops, sorry for my sarcastic tone, but you sounded very condescending.. anyhow It appears that you were right: I've tried a few other videos and found that some audio will show and some not regardless of Terminal services my the problem video for me had Windows Media Audio V2 codec and maybe that hasnt been installed .. anyhow thanks for your help in making me look again.. Barrie.
It would be nice to have the ability to either fade to black or simply add a certain number of seconds of black to the beginning and end of edited clips to give a more professional look to compilations of clips....when authoring discs with many clips there is often a delay between clips, this would make that less apparent.
Hope to see this in a future version of my favorite encoder!
Thanks for the great work and the time involved to bring it to us.
This is so easy I"m surprised anyone would Post such a Question..You go into the Source Range settings and you moove the Slider to the Beginning of were you want to start encodeing and Press the "Set Start Frame" Button, then Moove the slider to the end of were you want to encode and click the "Set End Frame" Button, and that is it, when it has finnished encode the First Part to do the same but for the second part...But if you allready have a Mpeg file and you Just want to Cut in Half Then you DONT use the Source Range, you use the "Merge & Cut" which you will Find if you go to "File" to "Mpeg Tools" to "Merge & Cut" and here is were you can cut your File in Pieces useing the same Basic Steps you would use in the Source Range.....
I had this problem where I load an avi that was captured in dv-avi format and then would go to edit source range and clip frame. When I was done editing in either one and I click on okay tmpg would close. I found out that tmpg doesn't like dv-avi type one files. A little research got me a dv converter to convert dv-avi type 1 to type 2 and tmpg excepts these files.
Where can I find older versions of tmpgenc, for
example 2.512.52.161. I have a problem with read
error near the end of a DVD encoding and I want
to use the older version to check if the same
error appears there.
This is for the moderator or admin or whoever happens to drop by this site every now and then to maintain it.
I would like to request that some sort of reference time is placed somewhere in this BBS.
All posts seem to be referenced by the time where the TMPG BBS server is located not local time. It is therefore difficult to establish what time a post has actually been placed from your local timezone.
It would help if there was a reference time at the top of this page thus allowing users from other timezones to establish the actual time of the post in local time.
Adding this sort of function to a webpage is quite easy and I would be grateful for co-operation in this matter.
In all the time I have used this BBS I have never seen this site reviewed for improvments except when Pegasys took over distribution of TMPG and made certain aspects of this site worse.
I use a SONY Digital8 camcorder to record NTSC video off my DirecTV TIVO system. I capture and edit the material in Adobe Premiere. I than use TMPGEnc to encode the material to DVD format.
It seems that whether I use field order A or B, I get what look like interlacing effects. I than tried IVTC which seemed to take care of the problem. I than imported the IVTC MPEG-2 in DVD-Lab, only to be prompted that it needed 2:3 pulldown. I than re-encoded the material in TMPGEnc with IVTC selected (this defaults the frame rate field to 23.976)and selected 3:2 pulldown when playback (this added the information "internally 29.97fps" to the frame rate field description. The result is accepted in DVD-Lab.
Is this an OK way to go? Is IVTC really the right way to go if I'm not sure the material was FILM to begin with? Why did IVTC seem to take care of the problem? What does the 3:2 pulldown really do?
I don't know how the Tivo acheives NTSC frame rates, but it does look like it uses 2:3 pulldown if you don't see any jerkyness in the output file TMPG creates.
Once you have used IVTC the file is no longer NTSC DVD compliant. You are dealing with a file which has progressive frames at 23.976. As you have correctly discovered you need to re-apply the pulldown when encoding.
You have several options of doing this.
1. Let TMPG do it when encoding.
2. Use pulldown.exe
3. Let DVDlab do it.
Either way it should result in a 29.97 fps MPEG.
If you need to know more about pulldown then I suggest you look it up on google.
It's a complicated subject and would take too long for me explain here, however if you search this BBS you will find some of my explanations of pulldown in earlier posts.
Thank you for the reply. It does lead me to another question/observation.
For another project using DVD2AVI, I have the option of choosing Forced Film if the VOB is in progressive format. This results in a frame rate of 23.976fps. When encoding this data to DVD format in TMPGEnc, the frame rate is set at 23.976fps(internally 29.97fps).
So what I am doing in my Tivo project is essentially the same, except that I'm performing an additional IVTC step necessary to get rid of my interlacing troubles? It seems I'm taking the 29.97 fps video, making it 23.976fps, and converting it back to 29.97 again? Is the encoded DVD compliant video really 23.976fps or 29.97fps?
Your TIVO is adding pulldown to the files it creates. This is the correct way to create a compliant NTSC DVD and also saves space because of the reduced anount of frames.
When trying to encode this file in TMPG you will experience artifacts as you will see the effect of the pulldown where the extra fields have been added resulting in interlacing artifacts.
Generally you could just encode this file to 29.97 fps without IVTC as long as you encode it as interlaced. The artifacts are only visible on a progressive display while on an interlaced display such as your TV you won't see the field displacment that pulldown causes and hence no interlacing artifacts.
Having said this though it is always adviisable to IVTC a file with pulldown to return it to it's original progressive format to maintain quality and save on file size.
You have 2 options for this. Either use IVTC in TMPG or use the ForcedFILM option in DVD2AVI.
The DVD2AVI option is much prefered as it generally produces better results.
You can then re-apply the pulldown as previously stated in my last post.
Hi all, i am having audio problems.... im converting .avi(715mb) to.mpg(2gigs), and when im done converting the video is perfect!, but no audio. Now i understand that garbage in will reap garbage out, but the avi file is really good quiality. i play it as avi and everything is fine, only whenn i convert it itdrops the audio. i convert as vcd ntsc,cbr standard format, video type non interlace, aspect ratio 1:1 vga, no filters, and ste at high quiality. any1 have any suggestions? thanks, dave
Audio is probably Ac3.
Download the AC3ACM filter, which you can find the link to somwhere on this BBS, or extract the audio to a wav with Virtualdubmod or Virtualdub_ac3.
Lately I find that it is better to use a Little tool called "Decompress.exe" to decompress the audio instead of useing Virtual-Dub to extract it, On occation I will still get sync problems when extracting VBR Mp3 to wav even when doing it the Proper Prescribed way...This tool comes with a VCD encoder called AVI2VCD but the encoder isn"t that good but the decompress tool is very handy...Cheers
ok, dumb question, but..............split the video and audio, then put in the seperate files when i use tmpegnc? Second is i trid to install AC3 ACM Decompressor running win xp, and it messed up my other pc(thank god i didnt run it on the main 1............lol) anything xp compatable? sorry, but i am a newbeeeeeee thanks again!!
no never mind i was wrong, my sondecided to run a program he d/l from the net n got me a virus. when i went to install the program it stated that it hasnt passed the win xp compatability, i almost always ignore this message. but it was a virus that got the other pc, not the program, i jumped the gun. sorry
as a final product i need to produce an edl for onlining at a separate place. my source materials are generally svhs analog tape. these svhs tapes are dubbed down from timecoded betacam masters. the svhs tapes have no timecode that can be read by my computer. they only have a visible burn in window (no ltc or vitc). older versions of premiere allowed me to assign timecode to captured clips (ctrl-k in premiere 6). i simply looked at the first frame of each clip and assigned the same number that was visible in the burn in window. the current version of premiere (pro) lacks edl support. i can't believe they call it "pro." it also seems that software other than premiere cannot read premiere's assigned timecode.
how can i timestamp my avi files with timecode that will match my visible burn in window and will also be generally if not universally readable in other software? recompressing the files is something i'd like to avoid but if that's the only way i'd consider it.
re-capturing is likely not an option as the sources are very large libraries of older materials.
Your Question Has very Little or nothing at all to do with Tmpgenc..This is a Tmpgenc Formum and all questions have to Pertain to tmpgenc in some way..Maybe you should look for a forum that has more to do with Editing than Encodeing...good Luck
wasn't sure if there might be a way of resaving
the described files through tmpgenc or something
like it and having the resave also restamp them
such that the timecode would read properly. if
anybody knows if such a thing can be done i'd
love to hear about it. and likewise, if anyone
knows it can't be done please let me know so i
can go away quietly.
Go to "options" to "Enviromental settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the "Direct show File reader" to "2"..Now your Files should Load Normally but you also need the Correct codecs installed...Cheers
Don't EVER install one of these codec packs! Not unless you want to seriously mess up your system.
Jaysus, these things cause more problems than they solve and anybody who is PC savvy will tell you this, just ask the guys in other forums who are experienced coders.
Installing every codec known to man on your system is NOT a good idea, the people who put these codec packs together have no idea what they are doing. They cause lock ups, conflicts and can interfere with other software which relies on it's own codecs.
You only need to install the codecs you require, so keep it minimal and you will have far less problems.
Why do you think there are so many people posting problems on this BBS? Many of them are related to and caused by these dreaded codec packs.
its the lazy newbie way i know:
but too tell you the truth i havent had any probs with (nimo or k-lite codec) no locks-ups, no slow downs, no codecs getting in the way of each other and i have 36 audio codecs and 40 odd video. now wait, i know i dont need nearly half of them but who really cares, none of them are conflicting each other or slowing down my system in any way, i find all my codecs work well together not a sign of a conflict to be seen. if anyones gonna be slowing down because of conflicting software its me, im on a P.O.S p2 350 128mb ram im slow enough already :/
the reason i gave this option is because i tried the way you suggested(ashy) and remember having no luck with avi formats (or any other format for that matter), but after installing the packs tmpgenc is my one and only for any format conversion.
If you dont want all the codecs that come with the packs, which is fair enough, there is a program called 'GSpot codec information' it will tell you exactly what codecs you need
I have made several hundred sucessful SVCD's. I keep my hard drive defragged and clean. My last couple of attempts(however) have produced SVCD's with bad video for about 5 to 10 seconds and sometimes a loud squeak. afterwards it all returns to normal.
It appears to happen at the same time no matter which movie I am watching.(about 1/3 of the way into it). I have cleaned my stand alone player with one of those disc cleaners. I have burned them from 1X to 12X(all with same results).
My only guess is the media I have been using. I believe I switched to Memorex from Sony cause they were on sale. Can the media really make a difference? even when I thought Memorex was a good brand?
Ok, if I abort an encoding job, will the mpg that has been created thusfar be useless, or will it play up until the point it was aborted? Thanks in advance.