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I am a newbie, I have made a movie using movie maker in WinXP and would like to burn it as a VCD movie on CD-R disc to give to friends. How would I use tmpgenc to do this?
I did try using Nero5.5 on my liteon CD-RW but it would not work
Tmpgenc will Encode your AVI file to Mpeg1 VCD format then you have to use something like Nero to Just burn the Mpeg file to CD-R in VCD Format...If you Allready Tried to do this with Tmpgenc would have allready figured it out..When you start Tmpgenc the "Wizard" will pop up and Guide you through setting up your File to be encoded to Mpeg-1 VCD, There insn"t really anything I can explain here that the Wizard doesn"t allready explain, so Just try it and if you have a Problem Post what the Problem is.......
PS: you will have to put most movies on 2 CD-R"s in VCD format...
>I am a newbie, I have made a movie using movie maker in WinXP and would like to burn it as a VCD movie on CD-R disc to give to friends.
Movie maker doesn't create the correct format for VCD it only craetes WMV files.
You need to re-encode it first with TMPG using the VCD template then burn it with Nero as a VCD not a data disk.
I am having a small problem whith the m2v playback after encoding an xvid movie, the picture quality is fine,the sound is great,but when the picture is moving it pause's every second like its sticking , ive have tried HQ motion search, 2 pass vbr,CQ br, but none of the change's i made seemed resolve the problem . can anyone help??
What it sounds like to me is that you encoded the AVI file to a mpeg file with a Different Frame rate...You have to encode your AVI file to Mpeg useing the same Frame rate as the Source AVI file so if your AVI file is 25fps you have to encode it as 25fps and 29.97fps has to be encode as 29.97fps ECT...Check that your AVI file and Mpeg file have the same frame rate....Cheers
I have a question concerning aspect ratio and I'm going to try and be generic as possible. I have a source that's true 16:9 (704x400 no black borders) and I want to burn it to DVD which is 720x480. I want to display it on a 4:3 TV at the proper aspect ratio (ie 16:9 with black borders top and bottom). In TMPG do I set both source input and output to be 16:9 even though it's destined for a 4:3 TV? Additionally, which positioning do I use? Centered, Fullscreen? with or without maintain aspect? Does the preview window in TMPG represent how it will look on a TV or how it's being output (ie. 720x480 1.5:1)? Obviously the DVD player processes this video to display it in a correct aspect ratio either 4:3 or 16:9 does the preview pane do the same processing as a DVD player? I guess to sum up all that giberish above, if it looks right in preview is it going to look right on my TV or should it looked squished (as in 1.5:1) in preview in order to look right on my TV? Thanks.
Thanks Ashy. Concerning your question, I've noticed this differing view a lot on this board concerning aspect ratio and I'm definitely one of the confused people. Perhaps incorrectly, I consider aspect ratio to be the number of pixels in the horizontal divided by the pixels in the vertical. This makes sense to me when it comes to movies because 16/9 appears to be a wider and shorter image than 4/3 which is narrower and taller (though I guess on a 4/3 TV both images are displayed equally wide but that's due to either the image being stretched or cropped). Thus 720 / 480 = 1.5. Obviously 4 / 3 = 1.333 and even though I've read enough of your posts to KNOW you are right on this...I don't understand how so...probably because I know nothing about video processing. Care to explain AR and what makes 720/480 magically equal 1.33? I know I'm not the only one in the dark on this one, in fact on Doom9's site the DVD Basics: Aspect Ratios also states 720x480 is technically 1.5:1
So my question is, why is DVD mpeg encoded at 720x480 and not 704x400 (16:9) or 720x540 (4:3)? It just don't see the point in having the DVD player further process the video to get it to appear correctly when it could have been encoded that to start. There must be a reason, I just don't know it?
Sorry I need to correct myself, aspect ratios even get me confused sometimes.
1.33:1 IS a 4:3 aspect ratio, but as far as DVD is concerned 4:3 is actually 1.25:1.
You are right with your calculations, 720/576 = 1.25 it's just that with NTSC resolutions you lose 100 lines from the vertical even though the aspect ratio does infact remain the same.
PAL is 625 lines full resolution and NTSC is 525.
Imagine you have a true 16:9 DVD source which is in the 16:9 PAL aspect ratio.
The PAL frame size would be 720x576, but the actual image size of the movie is 720x432. What makes it 720x576 is the added black borders which are 72 pixels each.
So we can calculate this output aspect ratio easily 720/576 = 1.25:1
Now if we need to output this movie as NTSC then the actual image itself doesn't change, but the borders will be smaller, framesize will be 720x432 and
the borders will be 24 each leaving 720x480.
So in actual fact the aspect ratio hasn't really changed, but it's just that to format it for NTSC a few pixels have been cut off from top and bottom to give smaller borders. These pixels are not actually in the image, but are just what is added by the player.
This is why both PAL and NTSC can be the same ratio even though the frame sizes are different.
If the same DVD is played on widescreen TV then there are flags encoded with it to tell the DVD players decoder not to add the borders to the image, so it is displayed in it's true 16:9 format.
Here is where it gets more confusing, all of the above frame sizes can be 4:3, when referring to 4:3 don't think of it in exact terms, but more of the general scale of the output in relation to your TV.
The above frame sizes and ratios only refer to DVD resolutions, an actual full resolution 4:3 image would be 768x576 which would be a standard 1.33:1 ratio.
I'm sure there are going to be some challengers to the way I have explained things but I tried my best with such a hard subject and the principle is right.
The other thing I failed to mention in all this is that when dealing with aspect ratios, the aspect ratio is usually referring to the pixel aspect ratio.
This means each pixel is not necessarily square as in a 16:9 or 4:3 ratio, the actual pixels are rectangular which again is why a 4:3 ratio can be 1.25:1 or 1.33:1 because the latter two refer to the image not the pixels.
Another question concerning this topic. Let's say I have an odd sized video...just for an example 650x400 1.625:1 (maybe a computer animation or an improperly encoded AVI). Which is neither 4/3 or 16/9 in pixels. To encode this to DVD what settings do I choose? Ideally, I want this image stretched horizontally to the screen edge. Can this be accomplished without distorting the picture? Also, can an improperly sized AVI taken originally from a 16/9 DVD source be reasonably brought back to proper AR (ie. 1.625 to 1.77). Can it be done properly without cropping off part of the image?
You can quite easily use the custom size option as you have already chosen.
This will place a 720x443 image in a 720x480 frame thus keeping the ratio of the original the same.
The result will just be the same as the original, but with black borders either side to fill in the extra 37 pixels.
It seems strange that the source has this resolution at all, is the picture distorted in any way?
Aspect Ratios are quite nice Stuff for Discussions...
You have to consider this: If we are Talking abaut Aspect Ratios, we have to talk about 2 different things:
The DAR (Display Aspect Ratio)
The PAR (Pixel Aspect Ratio)
To make things a bit easier, let's talk about PAL.
An Video-Image with the DAR of 4:3 and a PAR of 1:1 has the Size auf 768x576. But MPEG did'nt use a PAR of 1:1, it uses 1.092:1.
So a DVD with a DAR of 4:3 and the correct PAR of 1.092:1 has the Image Size of 704x576.
What's about 720x576? Good Question... If the Videos if following the ITU-Standard, than there's a third Term we must talk about: The Motion Area. In PAL, the Motion Area is defined as 704x576 (NTSC: 704x480). The 16 Extra-Pixels are called the Overscan.
On a right encodet DVD and a TV with correct Settings, you will always see just the Motion Area, never the full size of 720x576 (720x480). But, and that's really bad, most DVDs don't follow the ITU-Standard, they do use an generic PAR of 1.667:1. Then, the 720x576 Resolution WILL BE 4:3, with the result of getting a slight distorted Picture.
BTW: According to the Signal Timing, TRUE Video-Broadcast Resolutions are the following:
I am converting a 23.976fps to MPEG at the same fps. In the beginning, the little window that shows what portion it is currently converting showed the video correctly. But when I looked at it an hour later, all it has was a black screen (with slight macroblocking). I'm wondering if there are any problems? I ran the source video through VDub and it doesn't seem to be corrupted and it played fine. What's the problem? It's been black for over 1 minute since I looked at it..
Also, I did a test run and used Source Range to convert the middle portion and it played fine. But, the panning scenes were a bit...."eye-dazzling". Is there a way to make it smoother? This is so frustrating! :(
"16:9 625 line (PAL)" is a source captured in PAL resolution and is intended for viewing at 16:9
"16:9 Display" is a source that is not in PAL or NTSC resolution but just a standard 16:9 ratio such as DVD.
Most DVD's use 16:9 display and not PAL or NTSC resolutions as many would expect.
The only difference as far as the image is concerned between a PAL and an NTSC DVD is that in a PAL DVD the black borders will be bigger, the actual image is the exact same size as an NTSC image therefore using the source input ratio as PAL or NTSC will distort the aspect ratio slightly.
I did some test runs. You are right, the borders are bigger with 16:9 PAL/NTSC. I am surprised to hear that most DVDs are 16:9, and not 16:9 PAL/NTSC. Can you tell me what the difference is, and how I can see on the box whether it's 16:9 or 16:9 PAL/NTSC? I checked all my DVDs (Europe) and they show ...
- 2.35:1 (aspect ratio approx)
- Widescreen version 16:9
- PAL
Should I use here 16:9 or 16:9 PAL as source selection in TMPGEnc?
As I have already said you should always use 16:9 display for DVD sources or as for that matter most 16:9 sources.
I know it says 16:9 PAL on a DVD or 16:9 NTSC, that is just to let you know the format and for which system it is compatible for, it doesn't relate to it's actual aspect ratio.
There are certain flags in a PAL DVD to let the DVD player know it is in the PAL format, so it plays at the right speed and adjusts the frame size and aspect ratio accordingly.
As for 2.35:1 on some DVD's. This the actual aspect ratio of the cinema screen and the image on the DVD, but since this is wider than a 16:9 screen there will be small black borders added above and below the actual image to make it 16:9.
I want to make filesize predicition mit Constant Quality. My problem is the that the CQ curve and the encoded filesize doesn't behave linear. Sometimes theres no change in filesize even if i increase/decrease it with a value of 5-10.
I also noticed that depending on start from a high or low cq-value the filesize of the same cq is different.
Is there any way (e.g. formula) to be able to calculate this or are there any plans to make the curve linear?
The 2-pass is hitting the filesize right on target, but i want to use CQ (better quality).
No the CQ Method is Pretty Hit and Miss when trying to predict file sizes and I don"t know of a way to accurately predict them, I have even gotten different file sizes useing the same file with the same Settings in CQ....Good Luck
I have a large movie that I edited in adobe premier and exported to a DV AVI file. The file is about 1.5 hours long and about 19.5 GB. I now want to convert this to DVD format using TMPGEncode. However, when I actually begin the encoding process, I get and error that it could not open an avi that big. I also tried rendering the file in to several (23) separate avi's and naming them in sequence (I have TMPGEncode set to encode sequences as a single movie). TMPGEncode only picked up the first 15 files though.
Any suggestions on what I can do, I want to end up with a single DVD file.
I have never heard of any errors in Tmpgenc pertaining to not being able to open Big files.....I have opened and encoded files over 90gb in Tmpgenc without a Problem...Well First I would make sure that the Files are Numbered correctly as there could just be a simple Problem of the File name on file # 16 being Incorrect..But if that doesn"t work I guess you can try encodeing the First 15 files then encode the rest of them and join them together useing The "Merge & Cut" ...The Next time you output a Project in Premier Make sure that your Files are OpenDML Compliant and if you output to DV use a codec like the Microsoft DV codec as Tmpgenc seems to like this DV codec over others....cheers
I don't know how to check if my files are OpenDML compliant but I did see a recommendation in another post to up the priority of the direct show file reader in the vfapi plugin settings. I upped it to 3 and the file opened and began to encode which is further than it got before. I will test this out and see how it goes.
I get an error when I try to import certain AVI files into tmpgenc, it only does it with certain one's, and I don't know why. Virtual Dub opens them all no problem.
The answer is in this Forum hundreds of times...in Tmpgenc go to "options" to "Enviromental settings" to "Vfapi Plugins" and Raise the Priority of the "Direct show File reader" to "2"...this should get those stubborn files loaded....Cheers
I raised the priority of that specific thing to 2, as you suggested, and it hasnt affected it. Still comes up with the same error (see previous post for error)
As i was writing this post, I was struck my common sense. I raised the avi file reader thing to 2, as-well as the directshow one, and tried to add the file.. works perfectly, see screenshot for settings. Thx guys :)
The following is a screenshot of my environmental settings tab thingy
This is off topic, but jaysus it must take your PC an age to boot looking at all those programs that have loaded in the task bar!
Take my advice you don't need all those programs loading it will only slow your PC down and hog your memory, so remove some of them from start up and do yourself a favour.
Type MSCONFIG in the RUN bar and uncheck them from the 'start up'
When I open an mpg2 file and I begin to encode, the number of total frames is wrong. It says 1948 total frames but I know my file has 1960 frames... Why?
Well possibly your Mpeg2 file ends with an incomplete GOP so Tmpgenc is Cutting it off...Try setting the Beginning and end points of your file useing the "Source Range" and see if it reads all of the frames then....When I have a Mpeg2 source file that I need to encode I find the Best method is to use DVD2AVI and make a d2v Project file and load that into Tmpgenc to encode, it is faster this way and you don"t get problems like you are haveing....Cheers
I have an MPEG1 video file that Nero will accept as valid for making a VCD, however the file is too large to fit on a single CD. I tried cutting it into two parts using Merge & Cut, but the files output by TMPGEnc cause Nero to issue an error "Stream encoding which is invalid for a [Super] Video CD".
I would expect Merge and Cut to produce output file(s) having the same characteristics as the input(s), but this doesn't seem to be the case. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug in TMPGEnc?
Your Problem isn"t Tmpgenc but the way you edited the file...When you edit the file you have to make sure that the Stream setting is set to the correct Format..Since you are editing a VCD then you should have the stream setting set to "Mpeg-1 Video-CD" or "Mpeg-1 Vodeo-CD(Non-Standard)" if you just leave it at the default setting of "Mpeg-1" then it will not output a VCD file but an Mpeg-1 file and there is a Differance of which you are learning now...All you have to do is Re-edit the files with the correct setting....