cary
2002-12-23 02:02:27 ( ID:cyhenuuezqw )
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thx fellas for both sets of advice......but guess what?....after spending the entire weekend trying everything that i think is possible i still have the out of sync problems.......here are some additional details.....
winXP pro...trying to make vcd from dvd with pcm audio.....claddvdxp1.3....tmpgenc.....STILL OUT OF SYNC......used this same set of progs earlier this year and everything worked perfect.....are the new versions of tmpgenc not able to handle lpcm audio?.....i really really need some advice......even tried smartripper, then dvd2avi, then tmpgenc...same problem...HELP PLEASE ANYBODY!!!!!
Minion
2002-12-23 10:47:07 ( ID:a6p1jd3ovjw )
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Tmpgenc doesn"t have any problem with PCM audio..I use SmartRipper and DVD2AVI and never have sync issues, you might try ripping the audio with something else like VOB2Audio..Is the audio just go out of sync on your DVD player or is it out of sync on your Computer also??
cary
2002-12-23 12:38:17 ( ID:exhjgog3zsf )
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hey minion...i need all of the help that you can offer me.....the audio is out of sync on the mpeg2 file that i create using tmpgenc....at the beginning of the file it's ok but progressivly gets worse as we move along in that file....overt this weekend i tried smartripper for the first time to do the rip....everything seems ok with those files and that part of the process....then i use dvd2avi for the audio.....finally tmpgenc to put it all together for the mpeg2 file.....nero to burn.....where do you think that the problem is? with aspichk it says that aspi is installed ok and functional....is there anything that i am missing like some files to install or anything?.....i'll owe you if we can solve this one.....funny thing is that everything worked perfectly earlier during the year...do you think that i should do a reinstall of my OS (xpPRO)?......HELP & THX!!!!!
cary
2002-12-23 12:52:20 ( ID:exhjgog3zsf )
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4got to answer the question that was asked......aiming to create VCD's from the DVD.....but i dont bother to do the burn cause when i look at the mpeg video on the pc audio/video is out of sync.....therefore makes no sense to burn although somewhere on this board i read that one fella said that when he did his burn everything went into sync even though it was out on the PC.....so i tried but of course that did not work...what did i expect!!!!.....please help me
Minion
2002-12-23 22:12:07 ( ID:a6p1jd3ovjw )
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Well I don"t know what the Problem could be, Maybe you can Try a Different Mpeg encoder, The New MainConcept Mpeg encoder is Pretty Good and Quite fast..Or you can try doing what I sudgested earlier and Rip the audio with something else like VOB2Audio...
ASHY
2002-12-24 17:06:55 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )
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Keep using Smartripper to rip your files as it very reliable and the best ripper there is.
To rip the audio don't bother with PCM audio. You should be ripping the DD 5.1 Ac3 track to a wav.
For this the best and more accurate way than DVD2AVI is VOB2AUDIO, just ensure you rip the correct Ac3 track. There will be a text file in your folder where you have ripped your VOBS to which contains the audio stream info.
Once you have chosen the correct stream in VOB2AUDIO run it and it will create a wav.
The next step is to use the d2v file which Smartripper 2.41 should have created in the same folder as your VOBS.
If you are using Smartripper there is no need to use DVD2AVI at all, but it still needs to be installed for TMPG to use the d2v file.
Load both of these files into TMPG.
Choose the correct template to encode. I.E. if your DVD is PAL choose the PAL VCD template, if it is NTSC choose the NTSC VCD template.
DONT try to convert one format to another.
Before encoding in TMPG click File>Preview and move the slider to the end. Note it's time code info then load the wav into media player and play. Check that both are the same time length.
If both are the same length you can now go ahead and encode and you should end up with an in sync MPEG.
ASHY
ASHY
2002-12-24 17:10:55 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )
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By the way what does Aspichk report as the Aspi layer version? 4.7 is bad 4.6 is good.
ASHY
cary
2002-12-25 03:24:54 ( ID:cyhenuuezqw )
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minion....thx for the advice but most likely i'll stick with smartripper-dvd2avi-tmpgenc combination......its' now 2312hrs local time here and i'm xtremely tired....so no more xperimenting for tonight......
ashy......some positive news though....the dvd's that i am most interested in converting to vcd have only pcm audio stream along with the video stream....these are dvd's with music videos like what you see on mtv....earlier during the year i had no problems at all using cladxp1.3-tmpgenc but now i get a message that i never did b4 saying 'authentication routine failed to unlock locked sectors' but clad still rips the vob files anyway.....so today i tried a dvd movie and guess what...everything worked fine which means that the problem has to be specific to those music dvd's......used smartripper then tried with clad with no sync problems both times.....
tomorrow i will continue to experiment again....like most times the problem may be something staring us right in our faces.....
still don't give up on me as yet...i'm learnig from you both....
thx again
and merry xmas
c
so now with this e
cary
2002-12-25 03:32:52 ( ID:cyhenuuezqw )
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4got to answer.......aspi check says
COMPONENT VERSION DATE SIZE
WNASPI32.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 45056
WINASPI.DLL 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 5600
ASPI32.SYS 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 25244
WOWPOST.EXE 4.60(1021) 09/10/99 4672
ASPI is properly installed and is fully functional.
A total of 2 host adapters have been detected.
thx ashy
ASHY
2002-12-25 12:54:10 ( ID:z38op/mumwm )
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Hmm strange problem. Your sync problem is almost defintely linked to the DVD not being decrypted properly and the sectors remaining locked.
Any ripper will still rip the locked VOBS, but when you come to encode these VOBS there will be problems because they are still encryted and this is where your sync problems are beginning.
The 'authentication routine failed to unlock locked sectors' error is usually due to a bad ASPI layer or blemishes on the surface of the DVD, so ensure it's clean. (is it only this one music DVD or all music DVD's?)
Even though you do have the correct layer installed I would kill it and re-install it again. There is program called killaspi.bat which can do this which I guess you already have as it comes with 'Forceaspi 1.7'
Another option is to play the disk for a few seconds first with your PC DVD player software such as WINDVD. This will authenticate the disk then try again with Smartripper.
If all else fails after this then I would try the very best ripper out there VSTRIP which can rip any DVD on this planet.
It's a bit more complicated to use, but gives guaranteed results. If VSTRIP can't do it then there is something wrong with the disk.
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/vstrip.html
ASHY
cary
2002-12-26 22:37:52 ( ID:cyhenuuezqw )
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hey ashy.....yes the prob now seems to be not those music dvd's but something else cause i tried to convert one that i had successfully done in the past and i got that authentication problem....i too seem to think that it's with this aspi layer....i had a HD problem in june and had to do a complete reinstall and after that is when the problem started.....i lost the aspi that i was using then....today i successfully converted 'mission impossible 2"...know what i noticed today....with smartripper when i did the movies successfully,when you hit the start button in the 'code info' area of that dialog the 'aspi' sign ligkt up....this does not happen with the music dvd's....i am going to experiment a little later and will fill you in again...will try to remove and reinstall aspi to see what happens....hope that it works this time......
thx again....
cary
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