Hi, I just download a sample MPEG-1 movie from this site....just to test how it looks like when burn onto VCD. I wonder why NERO need to re-encode the MPEG-1 file stating that "the stream is invalid for making (super)video-cd". For your information, I'm burn it with Nero 5.5.8.2 with assistance from Nero wizard for making VCD.

The problem is probably that the file is a "mpeg1" file not a "vcd" file, Why use a downloaded sample clip?The best thing to do is to download the program and encode your own clips and burn them to vcd ......

>The problem is probably that the file is a "mpeg1" file not a "vcd" file, Why use a downloaded sample clip?The best thing to do is to download the program and encode your own clips and burn them to vcd ......

Hi, I'm newbie and i have the same question, I encode my avi to mpg, but when i try to burn it with the nero assistance for vcd it says it needs to encode the file because "the stream is invalid for making (super)video-cd" (and of course taking another few hours). What can I do? rename the mpg to vcd or what? or maybe just dont use the nero's assitance for vcd and burn the mpg as an iso?

Thanks Minion...

Hi! What's your mpeg1 format? If it's not strictly compliance with VCD format, nero will react as what you decribed.

When "nero" gives you the error message it will also tell you "why" the file wasn"t compliant with vcd standards, if you load a template the settings will be set so your file won"t get that error in nero...

This is the MPEG-1 format used in my case:

PAL(352x288)
25.000 fps
huffyuv 2.1.1 compressor
aspect ratio 4:3 625(pal)
1150 kbit/s

audio:
MPEG-1 Layer II
sampling frequency: 44100 Hz(stereo)
192 kbit/s (changed to 224 kbit/s also produced the same problem)

This is the MPEG-1 format used in my case:

PAL(352x288)
25.000 fps
huffyuv 2.1.1 compressor
aspect ratio 4:3 625(pal)
1150 kbit/s

audio:
MPEG-1 Layer II
sampling frequency: 44100 Hz(stereo)
192 kbit/s (changed to 224 kbit/s also produced the same problem)

The specs you posted sound like a compatible Pal mpeg1/vcd file accept that you wrote in "huffyuv compressor" so are those the stats of your avi file or your mpeg1 file? cuz "huffyuv" is an "avi codec", I hope you aren"t outputting to the "huffyuv" codec? cuz then you would be encodeing to avi not mpeg1 and then "nero" would for sure re-encode the file, but if that was a "typo" then the only thing that might work is to take your "mpeg1" file and run it through the "merge and cut" with the "mpeg1/vcd" setting in the dropdown menue, this will put a vcd header on the file just in case you encoded the file to mpeg1 not mpeg1/vcd....

sorry for my english i am italian
i convert from DVD to SVCD whith software DVDx and TMPGENC, when i split the vid whith TMPF (merge and cuts), i not see the vid, audio is good but video is black.
I trasfer on CD the video for see on TV and the vision is very good but not regular

Just use DvDx to convert from DVD to VCD/SVCD!

Hello,

since the trial period for version 2.54 expired I get for all following versions - 2.54a, 2.55, 2.56 - with the start the message "mpeg 2 trial period expired". I use it with Windows 2000 and Windows 98SE.

Has anybody an idea ?

Thank you Nils

> "mpeg 2 trial period expired"

This is just what it says. You can not use MPEG-2 encoding feature for free
any more. You need to buy TMPGEnc Plus if you want unlimited MPEG-2 encoding
feature.

At contact page, it says :
"Because of MPEG-2 licensing matter, we are not able to provide unlimited
MPEG-2 encoding function for free, thus, the free version of TMPGEnc (which
you can download from this website) has limited MPEG-2 encoding function."

If a software has MPEG-2 encoding or decoding feature, the author or distributer
needs to pay licensing fee once they distribute/sell the software to the public.

Try tmpgplus

Hello,

may be my question was not in correct phrasing. I know that there is only a limited test time for mpeg-2 for the free versions.
In the past I installed a new free version and it continuoes to encoding for the next trial period. But since the trial period of version 2.53 finished the version 2.54 said from beginning (the first day) that the trial period expired. So I installed version 2.55. This version said it too. And so on.
Or does it means that since (free) version 2.54 there is no more trial period ?

Thank you

Yep, you got it in one buddy. You won't be able to use the trial now until the next upgrade version comes out.

Go buy this program, it's worth it as it's obvious you use it a lot.

ASHY

i¡­m here again with some new problems.

first, tmpgenc won¡­t open a mp2 file for multiplexing with a m1v file. i can¡­t find an explanation.

sencond, i¡­ve tried to multiplex these two files with bbmpeg, the process goes everything ok, but when i play the mpg final file there is no sound. i find these strange because i¡­ve followed every step of the every existing guide. i wonder if it¡­s a windowsXP problem.

well, i need some advise here,

thanks,

didi.

Have you listened to the mp2 audio file to see if the audio is there?sometime tmpgenc encodes a blank audio file so you might have to re-encode just the audio then try muxing the new audio with the video, there are other muxers you can try also "mpeg2vcr" has one and there is a free one called "xmuxer"....

i¡­m grateful for your concern in answering my question.

about the mp2 file, it¡­s ok, it was originally a mpeg video/audio file, i demuxed it with tmpegnc then used it in soundforge to fix a problem(saved it as a wav file) and finally encoded it again to mp2 using besweet v1.4 b12. is it possible to multiplex a m1v with a mp2 file?, the thing is that tmpgenc allows to open the original mp2 file, the one that i¡­ve demuxed with this program, but not the one i¡­ve encoded with besweet. what do you think?.


i¡­ve been searching for a free download of those programs you recomend, but they¡­re all demo versions. the mpeg2vcr don¡­t allow any saves, for the xmuxer i went to dvdDigest but the links aren¡­t working and i couldn¡­t get it through other websites.

can you help me?

thanks,

didi.

There is obviously a problem with the mp2 file you have created with besweet. If TMPG won't open it then it is corrupt.
Why did you use besweet anyway? TMPG is perfectly capable of encoding wav files to mp2.
Just load the wav into TMPG as the audio source then click 'Audio only' as the stream type and encode.

ASHY

ok.

i can¡­t explain how much i owe you, the two of you, for what you did for me. minion thank you very very much, and ashy, you were right i did what said and tmpgenc worked good.

thanks, and hope i won¡­t bother you again,

really thank you,


didi.

Hi,
when i encode avi to mpeg2 the picture is ok, but the audio is really bad, some kind of a noise.
I´ve tried many tmpgenc version but they worked all the same.
Could anyone help me on that problem?
Thanks

The audio encoder in tmpgenc isn"t very good but you can use external audio encoders with tmpgenc in the "external tools" a good audio encoder to use is "toolame" or "SCMPX" you can find them on any search engine....

Thank you Minion for your help.
I´ll try both suggestions.
Thanks
Felicio

Hi,
i´m trying to convert vob files to avi or to mpeg2, but when i try to open it tmpgenc says "format not supported" or something like that.
Could anyone help me on that?

I used to this with version 2.53 and it worked fine. Now i´m using version 2.55.

Generall speaking you shouldn"t load vob files into tmpgenc, if you want to make an avi file out of a vob you can use a program called "vob2avi" or "dvd2avi", but if you are just encodeing to avi so you can encode it to mpeg2 then use "dvd2avi" to frame serve the vob files to tmpgenc, this is the best way to copy vob files to mpeg...

Error message "5 s packets cause buffer underflow" with just one of a set of mpg files subjected to Simple Multiplex prior to VCD burn. File plays, but with a period of stills and bad sound. Is there anything I can do to correct the file or to make another that will be free of this problem?

I have noticed that if you multiplex useing the "mpeg1/vcd non-standard" setting in the multiplex you might not get this error but if you still get it try multiplexing with the "mpeg1 setting" then put the vcd headers on with the merge and cut .......

Your problem is not the buffer under flow. "5 s packets cause buffer underflow" is neither here nor there and won't give a problem.
I guess the reson you are having the problem with playback is because you did not choose 'MPEG1 Video CD' as the type when you multiplexed.
I also would guess that you also recieved some kind of warning from your VCD burning software when you loaded this file which you ignored.

To correct the MPEG load it back into the simple multiplexer and choose 'MPEG1 Video CD' as the type and run ( make sure you give the output a different name than the input or you may recieve an error).

ASHY

I was about to purchase the PRO when my 2.53 started having an Illegal Floating Point Error. I have read articles about turning OFF the SSE & SSE2 but that causes the encoding time to double (or more). What is the point of having a nice P4 if I cannot use its full power.

What is going on here? These are NTSC DVD rips. I have successfully used 2.53 to encode non stadard VCDs based upon the KVCD templates.

IN FACT, I have encoded the same video several times and got the ERROR when I made a reduction in MAX bitrate to make the file smaller. Here is what happended:

1) 704x480 29.97fps CQ 50 300-1500 44k 128kbps.mpg WORKED! File 831MB
2) 704x480 23.976fps CQ 50 300-1440 44k 128kbps.mpg WORKED! File 731MB
3) 704x480 29.97fps CQ 50 300-1440 44k 128kbps.mpg ERROR! File ??MB

What is happening?
Thanks for the help!
reman

Since you are doing dvd rips you shouldn"t get this error unless you are doing anything with your computer accept encode,I only get this error when I try to surf the net or run any other applications while encodeing, it is a good idea to just encode and do nothing else even turning on your screen saver while encodeing seems to cause the error, if you are looking for fast encodeing there are faster encoders out there....

Is it possible to convert avi/divx files with encoded AC3 sound to Mpeg2/DVD/SVCD with AC3 sound?

I have seen some posts that suggest that the sound should be extracted and converted inte WAV, but then I loos the multi-channel sound.

/JCh

If you extract the *.ac3 stream and convert the DivX file to any "flavour" of DVD mpeg files the answer is YES.
I mean (in PAL):
352x288,mpeg-1, CBR or VBR until 1800 kbps
352x576, mpeg-2
720x576, CBR or VBR until 9000 kbps


More accurate information here:
http://mpucoder.kewlhair.com/DVD/dvdmpeg.html


Regards

hi i have followed all instructions on vcdhelp.com to the t but i still am unable to convert my divx files. After converting there is no video, only sound. Also i am not able to preview the movie during the conversion process.

I'm a newbie so please be gentle. And thanks

Try to configure the Directshow vfapi plugin with priority 1 or 2.

To ADV_H67,

Try to configure the Directshow vfapi plugin with priority 1 or 2.???? What the heck does that mean????

I'm looking thru the questions trying to find the answer to my problem and mine is almost the same as this one. Please give details. Where do I fine the directshow vfapi plug in??? and then where do I fine priority 1 or 2???? Please give more details. Thanks

Go to "Options" to "Enviromental settings" to "Vfapi Plugind" then raise the "direct Show file reader" to "2", you do this by right clicking on the filter.....

I would like to know if there's anyone out there who could give me a hint on where to find some usable software that can perform a "good quality" conversion of NTSC AVI files to PAL AVI.

Thanks,

Sven

I don"t think there is a software package specificly for this task,I use a combination of different software to convert pal to ntsc or ntsc to pal, I use "virtual dub" to extract the audio then I use "avi framerate changer" to change the framerate then I use "cool edit" or "sound forge" to stretch or shrink the audio file to match up with the video file while keeping the same pitch,If done correctly they look perfect but getting the audio to match up with the video is the tricky part....

Why do you need any external software ..TMPGenc does this.

- Decompress the audio using the decompress utility bundled in with avi2vcd
- Select 25fps in your settings in TMPGenc

Convert ...voila !
I have never had to use any external software and usually have an NTSC source which I use to create a PAL XVCD

This won't work correctly. TMPG doesn't do proper framerate conversion. The effect will be jerky playback. You may never have noticed it before but have a close look at your AVI, you will see a slight stutter when there is movement in the scene. This happens when outputing to AVI or MPEG.

ASHY

Yes, that is the problem I perceive using TMPEnc NTSC -> PAL conversion, i.e., horizontal and vertical motions become "jerky". As I understand it, this is caused by the differerent frame rates between NTSC and PAL, and, as it seems, this not done by TMPGEnc, hence requires some special SW.

It seems to me that the "extensive" crafting required to do this with different pieces of SW (changing the video farame rate and then fixing the audio to keep it in sync) is rather cumbersome for a novice like me. However, since the NTSC <--> PAL conversion must be a rather common problem, I hope that there is packaged a solution out there somewhere and that this eminent BBS may know where to find it.

Thank you all for interest shown and for any future contributions and "Hello" from a warm, summery Sweden!

Regards,

Sven

It's not as hard as you think even though it looks complicated.

The only way is to change the framerate of the original AVI.
First you will have to extract the audio to a wav file using virtual dub.
Load the AVI file into virtualdub and extract the audio to a wav.
Next change the framerate to the one you want. When you do this note the time in the box at bottom right exactly and then convert it to seconds. WRITE THIS DOWN, you will need it later.

Close Virtualdub and download Cooledit 2000.
open Cool edit 2000.

When the program opens you will be presented with a box allowing you to choose 2 options. Choose options 1 and 3.

In the program click file>open and open the wav you created earlier.
Wait for it to finish then click 'Edit' and untick 'enable undo' then click 'select entire wave' next click 'Transform' and choose 'Time/pitch' from the drop down menu then click 'stretch'
In this box tick the following options:

Low precision
Time stretch (preserves pitch)

In the box that says 'Length' type in the exact figure you got in secs from Virtualdub for e.g. 4802.360 then click ok.
Wait for the program to do it's stuff then when its finished click 'file' then 'save as' and name and save your file as a wav.

This should give you a Wav file which will be the same length as the movie in the next step. Close Cool edit 2000.

To change the framerate of an AVI all you need is this program.
http://www.divx-digest.com/software/avifrate.html

Change it to the framerate you want then load your AVI and your new wav into TMPG and encode as normal.

Note: you may check that the audio is in sync with AVI by multiplexing the files with Virtualdub first.

ASHY

ASHY,

Thanks for good and helpful advice!

The only remaining question is the choice of new frame rate - everything else seems to follow automatically from this decision.

So, what frame rate should I choose when converting NTSC to PAL? I believe that my NTSC source is a bit higher thand 29 fps and that PAL is around 32 fps. But maybe this isn't such an exact science and the compression stuff might fudge this issue somehow...

Pax vobiscum,

Sven

If your source is 29.97 then you should try to use Virtualdubs Inverse Telecine filter which can be found under Video>framerate.. to change the framerate to 23.97. This will only work if 3:2 pulldown has been added to the movie in the first place.
To check just choose the Inverse telecine option and then play it in Virtualdub. If it plays smooth it's ok if not and it looks jerky then you can't use the filter.

You will the just have to do a straight conversion using the method I posted above from 29.97 fps NTSC to PAL 25 fps.

If does play ok then use the filter and still change the framerate to 25 fps, this will give you a better smoother conversion.

ASHY

With that bitrate and if your avi is good quality your mpeg2 file should be good quality so you are probably doing something wrong but I don"t know what cuz you didn"t leave your procedure for encodeing or the settings you used or the avi file info, but in general for the best quality dont use CBR use CQ and you will get a smaller file size also, put the rate controll on "High quality(slow)", and you could be seeing interlace artifacts in the file dureing a lot of motion so use the de-interlace filter if you are encodeing a interlaced source, generally speaking you should get a fair quality mpeg2 file