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I am ripping harry potter dvd.... I tried to use the force film option in dvd2avi but my resulting video file did not sync with the audio... I have figured out how to do the IVTC in tmpgemc...so I left the original at 29.97fps and not choosing forcedfilm in the options... my question comes to the actual encoding... the original is 16:9 aspect ratio ... and on the video and advanced tab it is set to interlaced... I have applied the ivtc and got rid of the interlacing...do I still encode it as interlaced or do I change it to progressive? and if so do I change it on the vidoe or advanced tab...or both...and what about the 16: 9 ratio as well...leave it to 4:3 or 16:9 or change for both... I am confused as to which is input and output...like to i set the video to interlaced but set advanced to progressive? or vice versa...any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated
Your sync problems when you used the ForcedFILM option in DVD2AVI are most likely due to the fact that you used DVD2AVI to rip the audio also.
This is not a good idea with Telecined films as DVD2AVI is known to create this problem.
Use another program such as VOB2AUDIO, which is more accurate, to rip the audio to a WAV.
Using the ForcedFILM option is the best way to go, so learn how to use it properly, it gives great results and saves a lot of messing about.
Any way to answer your other questions now you have performed IVTC on the movie.
The input should be interlaced, as far as TMPG is concerned it is still interlaced even though you have performed IVTC to convert the movie back to progressive frames as the IVTC won't be applied until you encode.
The next thing is the output. Seeing as you have performed IVTC, you should now have a movie which is 23.976 fps progressive.
You now have to add 3:2 pulldown to this movie to make it an interlaced 29.97 fps movie.(Yes I know that was it's original format, but this is the correct way believe me otherwise you would have ended up with interlacing artifacts)
The simplest way to do this is to choose the SuperVideoCD (NTSCFilm) template or to do it manually, choose MPEG2 as the output then under the 'Video' tab select '3:2 pulldown when playback' from the drop down menu where it says 'encode mode' then select 23.976 fps(internally 29.97 fps) as the 'frame rate'.
Your input ratio should be 16:9 display and your output should be 4:3 display, Full screen(keep aspect ratio) for a standard TV.
Note: all this refers to making an MPEG2 movie. If you are creating MPEG1 VCD you should leave the movie as it is and just de-interlace it unless your player is able to handle 23.976 fps movies without jerky playback.
Makeing a template is easy.First load the "unlock.mfc" template, this will make it so you can adjust all the settings.Now you just set up ALL the settings the way you want them, then when you have the settings the way you want them just click the "save" button in the bottom right corner, then name your template and save it, that is it.....
Three days ago tmpgenc 2.54a began having lock-ups when cutting mpeg-1 files to fit onto a cdr. The first part of the file up to time index 1:03:17 encodes normally. The lock-ups occur when I try to cut the last few mintues of the movie. Video encodes normally, but audio locks up and causes the program to lock up. Windows Task Manager says the program is 'Not Responding'.
This is a common problem with the "merge and cut" feature and the solution is to use different software to edit you mpeg files, once the cut feature decides it isn"t going to work for that file there isn"t much you can do about it accept try something different..There are a few freeware or shareware mpeg1 editors just search for one on a search engine....
I got this also. Here is an workaround from a guide that I will put out there somewhere:
Sometimes the last cut won't work. It stops after the audio progress bar part. This is got to do with using the slider and fine tuning. Workaround: Use the slider and >>| buttons for the last part and write down the cut. Close the program. Now open it again and TYPE your times in for the cut, Don't Use the buttons or Slider. This works.
If cutting still gives you problems them encode your movie in bits using the source range.
Alright, i'm kind of new at this, and i've wasted about 6 cd's trying to get this to work. I need to convert a file (avi) to be able to play in my dvd player. everytime i try it, it doesn't play in 1 player, and in my other dvd player it plays but is all scrambled up. i know my 1st dvd player can play it because i have a movie that i burned about 6 months ago that plays fine in it. i just can't remember how or what to do. please help, thx
Write back with the stats of the avi file :framerate ,codec ,resolution ,audio format ect, and how you went about encodeing and burning your file to vcd.We can"t tell you what you did wrong if you don"t tell us what you did.Did you watch the mpeg before you burned it to disk?
Load your movie, select the appropiate VCD template, don't change anything then encode.
Now use NERO to burn you movie and ensure you choose the VCD option in NERO when you burn.
Hi, are there any special tricks by making SVCDs from DVD to maintain to correct aspect ratio, when the source is 16:9?
Even if I select 16:9 as the source spect ratio (should I select 16:9 display or 16:9 625 Pal?), the resulting SVCD is played back to "high" on my dvd player. I have tried that with different films. They all had the same aspect ratio when being played from the original DVD, but they played with different aspect ratios when played from the SVCD. Of course I endoded them all with the same settings. What's going on here, or what am I doing wrong?
Source aspect ratio for DVD = 16:9 Display
Output aspect ratio for SVCD = 4:3 Display
Video arrange method = Full screen (keep aspect ratio)
Frame size NTSC = 480x480
Frame size PAL = 480x576
This should give you the correct aspect ratio on your TV.
....or if you have one of those new TV's with the picture ratio adjustment, just change the aspect ratio on the TV to 16:9 and it'll squash the picture back to where it's supposed to be. :-)
I am trying to encode a SVCD with a source file which is NTSC-29.97 fps. After converting to PAL-25fps the resulting test MPEG file is jerky (picture motion).
I also get severe interlace lines even though DVD2AVI reports that the source is progressive. I know I can use the de-interlace filter to get rid of the interlacing. Can I use inverse telecine to cure the jerkiness? The only problem with this is that TMPG will not allow use of these 2 filters at the same time.
Could anyone give me the correct procedure for achieving a smooth transition from NTSC to PAL
Thanx in advance,
Adey.
I"m not an expert at converting ntsc to pal, but i have doen it before sucussfully,I believe you have to use the "inverce telicline" to change a ntsc interlaced movie to a progressive pal movie,or use the 3:2 pulldown,but I think "Ashy" has a lot more experience at doing ntsc to pal than I, im sure he would give you more acurate advice.......
IT's not as simple as changing the framerate in TMPG to convert NTSC to PAL and this is the reason for your jerky playback.
You say the source is progressive but it has interlace lines. This would be correct if the source is NTSC DVD.
What you need to do is use the ForceFILM option in DVD2AVI when you create the d2v file. This will return the movie to it's pure 24/23.976 fps progressive state, but bear in mind that DVD2AVI must report the DVD at least 95% progressive for the ForceFILM option to work.
To check this just click the preview option and note what DVD2AVI reports.
Go here and have a look at this page: http://nickyguides.digital-digest.com/DVD2AVI.htm which explains in more detail and note what it also says about the VFAPI converter.
After you have done this the next bit is a bit more tricky. Your gonna have to load the d2v file into the VFAPI converter and create a dummy AVI.
Once you have done this you can load it into Virtualdub and all we are going to do here is find out the exact length of the avi when we change the frame rate as we will need it later.
Load the AVI into Virtualdub then click Video>Framerate and change it to 25 fps then click Edit>end. Look to your bottom right and note the length of the movie exactly and convert it to seconds THEN WRITE THIS DOWN. So for example, 1:44:34.840 becomes 6274.840 seconds.
In the program click file>open and open the wav you created earlier.
Wait for it to finish then click 'Edit' and untick 'enable undo' then click 'select entire wave' next click 'Transform' and choose 'Time/pitch' from the drop down menu then click 'stretch'
In this box tick the following options:
Low precision
Time stretch (preserves pitch)
In the box that says 'Length' type in the exact figure you got in secs from Virtualdub for e.g. 6274.840 then click ok.
Wait for the program to do it's stuff then when its finished click 'file' then 'save as' and name and save your file as a wav.
This should give you a Wav file which will be the same length as the AVI.
Now finally load the AVI and the WAV into TMPG and choose 25 fps as the framerate and your movie should encode without jerks and hopefully in sync.
I have been trying to follow your instructions Ashy, but when i run CoolEdit, it bombs out right at the end. Trying it on the Mothman Prophecies, and well, it doesn't like it at all. I wonder if there is any other software out there, which is able to stretch and maintain pitch on a wav file?
NOPE. It's a load of b******t. This page has been posted here before and I have done my own tests to try and verify the findings and all I can say is that I couldn't reproduce the findings.
There was absolutlely no quality loss what so ever if anything the quality was slightly better. He also mentions that the older version was slightly slower. Well I tested this and the old version encoded at exactly the same speed as the new version and I did this a few times.
What is more likely is that he used a different setting in both versions and didn't realise it, such as the motion search precision. Maybe he had it set to a higher quality setting in the older version which would account for the slower speed.
Believe me if it was true we'd all be using the old version here.
you would have to extract this in the DVD backup process. DVD2AVI should only open the streams you have converted from the DVD. look at your DVD backup program and tell it to select the language you want from the list. Smartripper and CLADXP are good ones to use.
I use smartripper, but there is also no possibility to choose the language. And when i open the backup-vob's with f.e. DVDx, all language streams are choosa.ble
that is strange, honestly i haven't used DVD2AVI to choose languages, sorry. always just pick the default language which i guess is english in DVD2AVI.
When you use Smartripper to rip the VOBs, go to the directory where they are stored and open the text file called something like vts_01_INFO.txt. In this file will be a list of streams. The first audio stream is usually called [0x80] and is english then the second is [0x81] and so on.
To select the correct stream in DVD2AVI click Audio then track number and here will be a list of tracks nubered 1 to 8. Choose the correspondeing track to the one you choose in the smartripper text file.
For example the english track is [0x80] and is the first audio track so choose track 1 in DVD2AVI.
there is another way to do this.... when in smart ripper go to stream and enable streaming... you can now select the language of the audio you want and rip it with smart ripper... your other option is to use vob2audio... if you do it right it uses your ifo file and tells you which language is which ... just like smart ripper.... happy encoding
there is another way to do this.... when in smart ripper go to stream and enable streaming... you can now select the language of the audio you want and rip it with smart ripper... your other option is to use vob2audio... if you do it right it uses your ifo file and tells you which language is which ... just like smart ripper.... happy encoding
there is another way to do this.... when in smart ripper go to stream and enable streaming... you can now select the language of the audio you want and rip it with smart ripper... your other option is to use vob2audio... if you do it right it uses your ifo file and tells you which language is which ... just like smart ripper.... happy encoding
there is another way to do this.... when in smart ripper go to stream and enable streaming... you can now select the language of the audio you want and rip it with smart ripper... your other option is to use vob2audio... if you do it right it uses your ifo file and tells you which language is which ... just like smart ripper.... happy encoding
I know this isn't strictly TMPGEnc related, but I will be encoding to MPG once I solve this! I have an AVI file which has the video but I can't hear any audio. I know this is probably because I don't have the right CoDec installed, but how do I know which one to install? I installed DivX (v 3,4 and 5) which cured the vdeo, but no audio! I've tried a few different MP3 codecs too but all the time media player just says the audio is "Unknown Codec". Any idea how i can find out exactly what I am missing, and therefore what to install?
in some divx movies, when converting to VCD or SVCD/mpg, you need to uncompress the audio first. using an audio uncompressor to convert this to a PCM .wav file, then in tmpgenc, use the .wav file as the audio file and the orginigal DIVX .avi file as the video file and you should be set. tmpgenc should support most DIVX .avi files, but in some cases, i had to convert the audio to an uncompressed state.
The audio is probably AC3. You will need to install an AC3 filter to play this file or install DVD player software.
To convert it to MPEG you will first have to extract the audio to a wav file using software such as Goldwave with the AC3 filter installed then use that as the audio source.
I have a question about SVCD file size to burn to cd.
I have a SVCD file at 700.38MB(55mins) and burn to a 700MB CD.
When I look at burning face of the cd, I see that the cd is not completely burned to 700MB. I means the file is SVCD 700.38 MB(55mins), but it did not burn all spaces in the cd. I still can see the outer ring space that did not burn.
So my question is what is the right SVCD file size to burn fully to a 700MB CD?
is the file you're trying to burn an mpg file or a SVCD iso/bin/cue file? the mpg file can be up to 800 megs or more, but once the ISO for the burn is created, you can fit a 800 meg mpg file on a 700 meg cd with no problems. use nero or vcdeasy to do this.
right. once that 700.38 mpg file gets converted for cd burning, thus creating an ISO or bin/cue file, it will be a lot less, probably around 600-620 megs. most of my SVCD mpg files are around 800 -> 820 megs and when i'm ready to create a SVCD cd, i use nero or vcdeasy to create the cd image and i have no problems fitting it onto a cd, then use powerdvd or your DVD player to play the movie. you can always use nero to make sure it fill fit on a cd by using the SVCD template that comes with the new version. very useful. you'll see that an 800 meg .mpg file can easily fit on a 700 meg cd.
I don' know how you reached that assumption because it just isn't true and doesn't sound right to me.
Granted you can fit 800mb of MPEG data on to an 80min cdr because of the extra 100mb of space which is normally used for parity data is used for raw MPEG data, but the file doesn't get smaller when your ready to burn it to cd, it gets slightly larger because of the file overhead which is added.
For example an 800mb MPEG will be reported as 808mb total size when being burned to disk by NERO and the same happens when you create an image with VCDeasy.
This is the reason it is possible to fit more on the disk not because the file size is somehow magically reduced.
both CQ, VBR, and CBR should be compliant. it's just another way of encoding the file and how to encode the file. the end results should be the same compliance wise.
I've made a couple of DVD PAL using CQ_VBR 50 and it plays fine on my Sanyo 1500A and Goodmans. I'm still trying to find out if there's a better setting for putting old VHS on DVD. I did try 2 pass VBR 8000 kbps but ended up with an encoding time of 45hrs for a 41 mi video,so stopped it.