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Question Aspect Ratio Joe 4 2002-04-15 03:29:22
Question SVCD ---> VCD Ranger 0 2002-04-09 17:27:39
Request Please add frame per second encoding rate Jay 0 2002-04-09 16:18:51
Bug report CBR -- not constant - exceed maximum bit rate Jay 5 2002-04-09 19:15:03
Question 2-Pass encoding halts Sebastian Smith 9 2002-04-10 06:30:45
Question quality - comparison Mist 6 2002-04-09 18:05:28
Question Paul Paul 1 2002-04-09 12:11:11
Question What to do about werid resolutions? Kyonn 1 2002-04-09 12:10:38
Question projectfile.d2v connot open, or unsupported Shafiq 4 2002-04-10 06:34:41
Question Error reading .mov files? junkie26 1 2002-04-09 10:18:13
Question no sound chris 1 2002-04-09 10:17:44
Question no video output with TMPG?!? e-brother 2 2002-04-11 19:25:33

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Question - Aspect Ratio No.18504
Joe  2002-04-09 18:37:47 ( ID:rmtq39w0yzw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I am having some trouble with the aspect ratio in TMPGenc. I am attempting to make backups of some of the dvds that I have, but they are in wierd aspect ratios (1.85:1 or 2.35:1). TMPGenc only seems to have options for fullscreen and 16:9 widescreen. Is there any way around this, as the encoded videos are squished together when I use the widescreen setting?

Thanks allot.
Joe


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 18:48:35 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

TMPGENC is not a good idea to "backup" DVD's

Techno


Ashy  2002-04-09 20:04:30 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

What do you mean weird 1.85:1 is 16:9 widescreen. 2.35:1 is cinemascope and TMPGenc doesn't directly support this aspect ratio, but there is a setting to compensate for this so you can set your own aspect ratio.
Download this little proggy first.
http://www.chizzil.com/downloads/aspectratio.zip

In TMPG choose your source aspect ratio as 1:1 (VGA)then tick the box which says 'clip frame' then double click it.
Click arrange setting and find a suitable point in your movie to work with.
Under arrange method click the drop down menu and choose 'Center (custom size)'

If you are creating a VCD then the box on the left should be 352 (width)then using the aspect ratio calculator calculate the size of height.
For example with an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 this would be a height of 144.
Once your happy with the size click OK and encode as normal.
While your at it it would be a good idea to clip out the black borders as this will decrease the file size.
Hope it helps.

ASHY




Techno  Home )  2002-04-10 10:08:28 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

nice 1 ash

Techno


t_hartung  2002-04-15 03:29:22 ( ID:guvss.nxi6w )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

thanks a lot for the advice, I had many problems with the aspest ratio but now all is well.


T.H.



Question - SVCD ---> VCD No.18503
Ranger  2002-04-09 17:27:39 ( ID:lh1udvptj1c )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hallo, ich wollte eine Super VCD Film in Video CD Format umwandeln das klappt aber nit so, die Film Spur macht er aber bei der Ton Spur sagt er can not open... usw. !!! Ich habe das Tsunami-Filter Pack drauf und alles andere klappt auch nur gibt es da nicht eine einfache L Ôung ??? Bitte helft mir !!!
Habe Version 2.53

MfG Ranger



Request - Please add frame per second encoding rate No.18502
Jay  2002-04-09 16:18:51 ( ID:lus0b/a06x2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I know TMPGenc got the progress bar and such, but it would be nice to show the frame/sec encoding rate, so we have an idea of the speed it is encoding. It would also be a good benchmark for various system settings.

Thank you.

Jay



Bug report - CBR -- not constant - exceed maximum bit rate No.18496
Jay  2002-04-09 16:07:07 ( ID:lus0b/a06x2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I am using the latest 2.53 to encode a MPEG-2 720x480 VBR into SVCD format using the ntsc svcd profile settings. The result is than burn in Nero and playback on a Sumsung DVD/SVCD player. The video jerk, hold, and mess-up.

I take a look at the bit rate analysis and found that for most part, my bit rate was under the 2.52mbs as the SVCD profile in TMPEGenc, but occationally, the bit rate will go as high as 9mbs, and every few seconds, a 3mbs or higher will pop-up, which cause the jerk and mess-up of the video on the TV.

I have tried several settings for 8 hours, and found that the work around is to modify the ntsc profile to CQ_VBR with maximum to 2400mbs and minimum to around 1000mbs. Now the video in the SVCD player play smooth. From bit rate analysis, it still show occational bit rate higher than 2.6mbs (svcd maximum allowed bit rate) but the rate does not go over 4mbs and only occationally, so jerking and mess-up may occur, but only slightly and one wont notice it if not paying attention too closely.

Is it possible to make TMPEGenc to encode CBR in a stricter manner by not going over too much?

Is it possible to make TMPEGenc to encode CQ_VBR and VBR so the bit rate will stay within the max and min bit rate?

Thank you.


Tou


Ashy  2002-04-09 17:16:43 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

You say it peaks at at 9mb/s. This seems strange as at most at CBR there should only be a 500 kbs variance and even though this peak is higher your DVD player should handle it.
Your jerking and if I'm correct your blocky display problems are more probably due to the disks you use and the way you are burning.
Never burn above a speed of 4x or this WILL give severe playback problems in most if not all DVD players and even then burning slower will give better playback.
If you burn at high speed then as you have noticed when there are high bitrate spikes your player is having trouble reading it.
This is due to the fact that your player is having trouble reading this information as it needs to be supplied quickly by the disk, but due to errors being introduced by high encoding speeds the information isn't correctly being read from the disk. This doesn't matter as much with lower bitrates as the information is written and read slower from the disk thus producing less errors.
This doesn't seem to happen with Windows software decoders probably because software decoders don't have the limitations of hardware decoders.
If it plays back ok in a software player on windows then it is probably not your MPEG, reduce the speed of your burn and try again.

ASHY


Jay  2002-04-09 17:26:43 ( ID:lus0b/a06x2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks for the suggestion to lower the burning speed fo the cd-rw drive. I will give it a try.

As for the 500kbs variance, I am not sure if it's true, because I do have 9mbs, 7mbs, 5mbs, 4mbs, and lots of 3mbs on the bit rate analysis of SVCD result.

Jay


Ashy  2002-04-09 18:26:38 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

What program do you use for examining the bitrate?

ASHY


Jay  2002-04-09 19:11:22 ( ID:lus0b/a06x2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Thanks for the suggestion to lower the burning speed fo the cd-rw drive. I will give it a try.

As for the 500kbs variance, I am not sure if it's true, because I do have 9mbs, 7mbs, 5mbs, 4mbs, and lots of 3mbs on the bit rate analysis of SVCD result.

Jay


Jay  2002-04-09 19:15:03 ( ID:lus0b/a06x2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

For quick information, I check with PowerDVD when turning the information "ON" so I can see the bitrate and the video scene at the same time. I also use "bitrateview" program for full analysis.

Thank you.

Jay



Question - 2-Pass encoding halts No.18486
Sebastian Smith  Home )  2002-04-09 14:57:18 ( ID:6iqfuxykoj2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello All,

I'm attempting to make a DVD compatible MPEG2 file using TMPEG and the new 2-pass VBR mode. Every time I do this, the process stops between 60% and 70%. It does this EVERY TIME. I've tried the old 2-pass method and it does the same thing. I've used the wizard dialogs, set the parameters manually and even carved the files up into smaller pieces. The *only* way I can get it to render an entire file is to not use any 2-pass method. MVBR, CBR and all the rest work flawlessly. My source file is encoded in MJPEG and is exceptionally clean but, I'd really like to use a 2-pass method so I can up the bit rate without increasing the file size that much. Does anyone have any information they'd care to share about this?

My System:
ABIT VP-6 Dual P3 1gHz (not OC'd)
1gb PC-133 SDRAM
NVidia GF2-MX400 w/TV tuner (primary)
Voodoo3 2000 (secondary)
Intel NIC
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card
2 60gb WD HDs in RAID-0 (for video only)
2 15gb WD HDs (for system and apps)
HP DVD100i DVD+RW
Panasonic LF-D311 DVD-R-RAM



Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 15:57:05 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

well, TMPGENC might think the frame might be corrupted. What is the search motion precision u r using?

Techno


Sebastian Smith  Home )  2002-04-09 17:39:06 ( ID:6iqfuxykoj2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hey Techno,

I thought of that and used VirtualDub to integrity check the file. It passed with no errors. The fact that I can also use a single-pass VBR encode and have it work sort of negates that problem as well. I've even encoded using a 2-pass Real Media process and had it work. Real Producer is very finicky about what it will accept and it ate my MJPEG file with no problem. I even tried frame serving with VirtualDub and AVISynth to no avail ( after 20 hours of wasted time =( ).

Does TMPEG have any issues with the size of a file? The file I'm currently working with is just over 15gb with video only. The audio track is separate and I don't try to mux it in during the encode. I have about 75gb free on my drives and the temp file produced during the first pass never goes beyond a few hundred meg.

I'm stumped about this. I'm about to conclude it is a driver or hardware issue but that would suck big time because I'll never find it. Could the SMP enhancements be screwing things up? I have no idea what processes TMPEG multithreads. I thought at first is was a deadlocking thread issue but I have no evidence to support that.

I forgot to mention that I'm using Win2K-Pro as my OS last time.

-Sebastian


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 18:06:52 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

*stumbled, confussed and rushed to hospital*

Techno


Ashy  2002-04-09 18:44:09 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Have you tried to create an encoding log file and then examined this at the point where it stops.
It may give some clue.
Have you actually tried disabling the multiprocessor enhancements and heres a long shot, but is there enough space where your TMPG Temp directory is located?

ASHY


Sebastian Smith  Home )  2002-04-09 19:52:33 ( ID:6iqfuxykoj2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hey Ashy,

I've got space out the waazoo. I think 75gig is enough but one never knows =)...

I've tried disabling the SMP enhancements. It takes longer to fail at that point (10 hours as opposed to only 6). I've run a test with *everything* turned off (multi-threading, MMX, MMX-2, SSE) and it ran for 5 hours (with 27 to go) and I just bagged the session. 30+ hours of encoding is too long for less than 2 hours of video on a dual P3.

Now that log file idea is a good one. I've always turned that off in favor of the extra processor cycles. The only question I have about that is will the log file get written if the job halts? And I mean HALTS! I have to use Task Manager to kill the process. Sometimes I have to hard boot to get it to terminate.

Hummm... Could I have a bad SDRAM chip? Everything else works pretty well most of the time (hey, it's Win2Krap) but not many things work the CPU and memory like MPEG-2 encoding. I've got a spare or two lying about I could pop in.

Thanx for the info,
Sebastian


Dennis  Home )  2002-04-09 21:30:09 ( ID:gdoi5fzrbsw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hmm.

What is your input video then ? Try converting it to another format and then encode it. Maby the format you are using is not 100% compatible with Tmpgenc ?

Or you could even try this, seperate the sound file (wav) from the video file, then encode the to parts to one file. That works for me sometimes when you have sync problems and strange video problems.

Regards Dennis


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 21:35:19 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

why don't u capture using:

NO RECOMPRESSION
320*240
25/30fps
YU12
cd quality audio?

this is the best setting, and u will not lose quality when resizing to a different res, guarenteed.

Techno


Rck60s  2002-04-09 22:20:02 ( ID:ottpma61s8h )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

what part of TMPGEnc do you set these paramaters in?


TheBagster  2002-04-10 06:30:45 ( ID:aks1ajzl/6r )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Use Virtual DuB for Capture and select the specified parameters



Question - quality - comparison No.18479
Mist  2002-04-09 13:39:31 ( ID:fpves.wdhpg )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Hello

I have established that TMPGEnc is supposed to be the best, so all I want to know is how does its PAL vcd template quality compare to real vcds you buy? Also I would like to know how I can increase the quality from the template without going into svcd.
Thanks


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 14:47:51 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

to increase the quality:

load in the template, then load the unlock template, in the settings, where it says vbv buffer, increase it to 224.

I cannot really figure out how TMPGENC is better quality than others, it just is! Thank the author! :)

Techno


Ashy  2002-04-09 15:18:05 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Techno what do you mean increase the buffer size to 224? To create correct Mpeg1 VCD data the buffer has to be set at 40KB. This is the buffer size the decoder uses and should be set at 40.
You won't get an increase in quality with that setting but you may get playback problems on your hardware player if use it.
To increase the quality just up the bitrate. A 2hr movie can roughly fit on two 80min cd's at a bitrate of 1600 kbits/s and if you lower the audio bitrate you can up the Video bitrate even more.

ASHY


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 15:55:46 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

oh yes u will :)

Techno


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 15:58:05 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

it will increase the quality and keep the same(ish) file size without any probs on hardware decoder, I done it myself!

Techno


Ashy  2002-04-09 16:36:21 ( ID:4adzcnohuc. )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Look Techno I'm not being funny, but there is loads of documentation on buffer sizes and I suggest you go and read it. The same doesn't apply to Windows software decoders because the VBV buffer is irrelevant.
The buffer size needs to be set accordingly with gop sizes and bitrates and the particular decoder being used. At bitrates up to around 1800 kbps a buffer of 40 kbps should be enough, but above that the buffer should be increased.
So for VCD 40kbps is the optimal setting.
I doubt it has any bearing on quality as it's only used to set the buffer size of the hardware decoder so that it can display the clip correctly. If this buffer is set higher than the physical limit of the hardware decdoder the movie won't be displayed correctly if at all.
Most DVD players will be able to handle this higher buffer size, but some other hardware equipment which can only play MPEG1 such as Dreamcast or Cdi may not.
Why the hell do you think Mr Hori has set this as the standard in TMPGenc for Mpeg1 VCD. Don't you think if there was better he would have put this as the standard in TMPGenc.

It's fine tweaking things, but at least find out what it does before you do it.

ASHY


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 18:05:28 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

would u like proof ashy?



Question - Paul No.18477
Paul  2002-04-09 11:56:32 ( ID:fpves.wdhpg )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

hi

I just wanted to ask wether the mpegs created are the same quality as vcds you buy.
If not what do I need to do?
Thanks
Paul


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 12:11:11 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

TMPGENC prodeces BETTER VCD quality then the ones u buy, make sure the source is good first!

Techno



Question - What to do about werid resolutions? No.18475
Kyonn  2002-04-09 11:22:21 ( ID:qid/0i5x6gc )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I have a high quality widescreen dixv file that I would like to encode as mpeg2 to make an SVCD but the file is encoded at 640x352 @ 23.976fps and every resolution I have tried has "cut-off" the widescreen. Anybody know what resolution would be best for this situation and hopefully let me keep the widescreen, thanks in advance for any help


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 12:10:38 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Make sure you have a 16:9 aspect ratio!

Techno



Question - projectfile.d2v connot open, or unsupported No.18470
Shafiq  2002-04-09 11:05:55 ( ID:cnlnyv2c5c2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I keep get this error after i have run dvd2avi, and try to encode the project file in tempeng.
any ideas, I have the registered/installed the plugins as instructed (vfaip)


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 12:11:37 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

increase the dvd2avi project filter to a higher priority.

Techno


Shafiq  2002-04-09 13:49:43 ( ID:cnlnyv2c5c2 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

still getting an error tring to load the projectfile8.d2v in tempeng.
error is ("filename.d2v" cannot open, or not supported".


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 14:46:26 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

have u installed the vfapi plugin?

Techno


TheBagster  2002-04-10 06:34:41 ( ID:aks1ajzl/6r )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

or is your dv2 file in the same directory as your ripped vob files, cause they need to be.



Question - Error reading .mov files? No.18468
junkie26  Home )  2002-04-09 09:59:29 ( ID:1rqtvhad1aj )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

When I'm trying to open a .mov file (with the Project Wizard) in TMPDGEnc 2.53 I get an error which says "...can not open, or not supported". Does anyone know what's wrong?


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 10:18:13 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

Download the quicktime plugin:

http://www.vcdhelp.com (under tools)

Techno



Question - no sound No.18466
chris  2002-04-09 09:52:13 ( ID:2ngoerw2nlw )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

There is no sound when I try to convert an .avi to .mpg, why is that?


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 10:17:44 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

try extracting the sound as wav using virtualdub then load the video and the wave in TMPGENc and encode.

Techno



Question - no video output with TMPG?!? No.18463
e-brother  2002-04-09 08:21:32 ( ID:ju/em6rkexk )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

I'm using TMPG 2.5. With earlier version I had no problems, but no I can't seem to make a working .mpg file. I only get sound and NO video.
Installing TMPG again didn't work.
Can anyone help me??


Techno  Home )  2002-04-09 10:17:17 ( ID:82zqdopxre6 )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

TMPGENC is NOT compatable with DIVX v5.

uninstall DIVX v5, install DIVX v4.11 or 4.12

encode and all should be well.

Techno



e-brother  2002-04-11 19:25:33 ( ID:ju/em6rkexk )   [ Delete / Reply with quotation ]

thnx, it worked out!!

Now the next problem occurs (and I know I should look foor faq's or already answerred questions, but this way is faster):

after encoding, the movie is of bad quality (al little blocks). Is it something you can adjust in the options screen? P{lease help me, for this way I can't watch the movie!



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