Hi,

I have burned a avi to a xvcd movie using tmpgenc and the file is 1.1g but only 62minutes in length...how can I convert avi to either svcd or xvcd to get it to fit on a 700mg/80min cdr? I read somewhere that nero goes by the minutes and not the megs...but as I suspected nero won't do it...and when I was trying to burn it told me it was not mpeg2 compatible...(the high res and the 29.97)..is this normal for xvcd in nero? I would like to use either of these (svcd or xvcd)for the quality but I am a newbie at this...so if someone could explain the steps to me. What I have is in two parts already...so it would tell me that in xvcd I am looking at approx. 2gigs...but the movie is 2 hours so I would like to get it on two cdr. Would I maybe be looking at putting the two files together somehow then resplitting...I have never done this before, need the guided tour. I have been all over trying to find info but came up empty.

Thanks a million
Jules

if you want to make xvcd"s and get them to fit on cd"s, you have to choose your bitrates carefully,I usualy can get 60 min of high quality xvcd on a cd but the higher the bitrate the less you will fit on a cd.If I have a 2 hour movie I set the bitrate at 1700kbs and 128kbs for audio,and I get 1 hour on each cd,and if I have a 1 hour 30 min movie I set the bitrate at 2200kbs and 128kbs for audio and get 45 min on each cd,If you use the "vbr" settings you can manage to squeeze more on a disk,and you can get 800mb on a 700mb 80min disk ...I hope this helps a bit.....

oohhh:and I forgot for vcd and xvcd"s the frame size has to be 352 by 240,...

As you have discovered Nero obviously does not go by the time of the video, but the size in MB.
I have sent you some SVCD templates which will give you very nice quality with hardly any block noise and should allow you to fit a 100mins movie on two 80min disks.

ASHY

When convert avi file to VCD or SVCD I get combing on the horizontal motion (Pan) the only cure is to deinterlace the avi using ADOBE Premier. Is there a problem with the encoder or have I over looked a setting.
I use Pal - VCD or Pal - SVCD templates with TMPGEnc Version 2.51.33.127

Your Reply to this problem would be most helpful.

No need to deinterlace using Premiere - goto the "Advanced" tab and double click on the "deinterlace" entry and choose "Interlace even adaptive" (or similar). If you scroll through to an area with motion in it, you can see the effect by checking the enable box

Richard

If the movie is interlaced it could be the field order.
Make sure you have the field order set correctly otherwise you will get this problem.
If it is top field first that gives the problem change it to bottom field first and viceaversa.

ASHY

AVI output using the Intel IYUV codec (and others) produces files that are not readable by other applications (Media Player, editors) when the file exceeds 2GB.

Other software can produce legal files of any size or, like DVD2AVI, breaks the file into legal 2GB pieces. (DVD2AVI mishandles the audio :-( )

Is this a bug? If so, is it the type that might be fixed in future releases?

le probleme n'est pas du à ta compression en Avi

c'est que sous windows avec un Disque dur en FAT32 tu ne peux pas creer des fichiers superieurs à 2Go

il te faut formater une partition de ton disque dur en NTFS et creer ton fichier sur cette partition

I do not understand French but get your main point.

This problem occurs on a new machine. Win XP Pro, 160 GB NTFS Disk (ATA Raid).

The key point is that the Ulead editor (and others) can write AVI files much larger than 2GB fine. But they can not read 4:2:2@ML Mpeg. (Actually Ulead can not process ANY Mpeg.)

There does not seem to be any program that can process a large Mpeg file of any format into a single AVI file, with full codec support. Some programs get close but screw up the sound.

I'm not 100% on this, but the codec you are using is probably an old AVI Version 1 codec which have the 2gb limit.
To break this limit you will need an AVI version 2 codec such as an MPEG4 codec.

But I don't understand your point about the MPEG profile you mentioned. I take it we're talking MPEG2 here.
There is no limit when using an MPEG file on an NTFS file system.
TMPG should be able to produce an AVI from your MPEG no problem as long as you have the correct codec installed and are converting to the correct codec and in my opinion the DIVX5 codec has the best quality yet.
I have created many AVI's from MPEGs using various codecs in TMPG and have never had a sound problem.

ASHY

A little more backround. I want to archive Hi8 raw footage in a very high quality MPEG2 file for later editing. To edit, the footage would be bumped up to and AVI format that my Ulead editor likes. The Huffyuv codec works very well in Ulead.

Jumping ahead a few steps, the Ulead editor can save a file using the Huffy codec that exceeds 2GB and plays fine in any player. So I know that codec supports the new, large file, AVI format.

TMPGEnc outputting an AVI file with the exact same codec setting can NOT write a file larger that 2GB that plays on anything. Just under 2GB and the files work fine. This limits my archived clips to about 2.5 minutes when using Huffyuv RGB encoding. This is a cumbersome limit for raw footage.

It seems like something in TMPGEnc is "overruling" the codecs support for large files.

I think youre right TMPG doesn't produce files larger than 2gb.
Have you tried Virtualdub for this purpose.
I would think this program is more suited to your task for creating Avi's.
Apparantly Virtual dub can produce Open DML AVI files of any size on an NTFS file system.

So this should overcome your limit.

ASHY

Using VirtualDub seems to point to the root cause.

It reports "Missing Index Block" upon reading the AVI file and then proceeds to correct it! Saving with "direct stream copy" produces a legal file.

This really must be a bug. TMPG writes a correct index block if the file is <2GB but fails to write one if the file is >2GB.

Of course, I have no idea what an "Index Block" is, but the again, neither do the authors of TMPGEnc.

Ok, my problem is that the audio is not in sync with the video. Well in the beginning its fine but as the movie progresses (about halfway) the video gets more and more behind the aduio. (Hear Words Before Lips Move) does anyone know a program or how i can fix this?


Kocher06@aol.com

Try changing the Audio into a WAV file before using VirtualDub or something and then select it as the audio source when encoding with Tmpgenc. A nice easy tutorial which explains the process step by step can be found on VCDhelp.com

When I load a movie in tmpgenc, it crashes and says error report. This happened ever since I updated to Win Xp.

I tried to go to your avifreeezer link, using both netscape and IE and neither one can find the link, is there anpother place to get this program?

When I encode using the VCD settings, I usually get a couple of very short glitches in the final MPEG1 file (blocky, pixelated frames, with an audible chirp). VirtualDub can't find any bad frames in either the MPEG1 file or the original raw AVI.

I noticed something interesting while playing the MPEG1 file in the stripped down Windows Media Player (mplayer2.exe) with the Statistics displayed. Right before the glitch occurs, the actual frame rate starts to increase from the normal 29.97 fps to about 30.10 fps.

What is going on here???

I'm using a Dell 1.8 GHz PC with 640MB of RAM and Windows XP.

For the future, can TMPGEnc have a filter that lets us put a BMP logo on each frame of the new MPG? So we can have our own "brands" on MPG's that we create?

I can't seem to convert theese types of movies, IT seems to ecode the video, then encode the audio after. my original file size is about 700MB but the final video is 2-3 times as big, and thier is no sound. Any help? Ive tried downloading all codecs i can find. THnx

extract the audio and encode it to "wav" then load that in as your audio file in tmpgenc,if you allread have a mpeg of the video without sound just extract the audio from the avi and encode it to mp2 and multiplex it with your mpeg file...

Is there anyway of scheduling TMPG to encode movies one after the other whilst l am out or at night?

Set up your files, save as projects then use batch encode under File>batch encode and add each project then run.
Now go to bed and wake up in the morning with your movies ready encoded.

ASHY

Thanx for the info will try that tonite

Taiboy

Hello!

I read somewhere that when film(24 fps)material is converted
to PAL,it is just speeded up by 4%.Also the sound is speeded
up by 4%.It is easy to speed up the video by changing the framerate
to 25,but the audio will get out of sync.How to speed up the audio?

Cooledit pro or cooledit 2000.
Find out the length of the avi exactly in seconds in virtual dub after you have converted the framerate then save the original audio as a wav and load into cooledit and use the time stretch feature in cool edit and make sure you tick preserve pitch.

ASHY

>If TMPGenc gives you an error when opening the video.vdr.avi click on Option->Enviromental settings.
>And this window appear, click on VFAPI plugin and right click on the DirectShow Multimedia File Reader and select Higher priority.
>Now try to open video.vdr.avi.
>Remember to after you have encoded the video.vdr.avi to Lower priority on the Directshow Multimedia File Readear to avoid problem open other videos.
>

i tryed it but nothing has changed
"it can't open or supported" ???
i've TMPGEnc 2.53.35.130 (core version 1.84.130)
and virtual dub 1.4.10
my server is ok
i can't understand what's happen !!!!

Hi I have tried to create VCDs from a couple of avi movies with only jumpy results. Wen I say jumpy I mean when played back on a DVD player or my Napa the picture skips a few frames and continues.
I took the avi decompressed the audio with aiv2vcd tool and then used standard TMPGenc VCD template on highest quality. Burned with Nero. Tried both PAL and NTSC both the same. All VCDs play OK on my PC (PIII 1GHz - 256DDR).
Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Flash

You're probably burning at too high a speed.
A lot of DVD players, mine included, have problems with disks burned above 4x and will give jerky results. Even at 6x my player jerks like hell, but plays almost flawlessly at 4x.
So lower your speed and see what happens.

ASHY

Thanks for the advice wich I just tried at 2X from my HP 8200 which has a max of 4X. The results were slightly better but still jumpy. I think a new burner may be in order. I am just going to try at 1X speed painfull but I am good at twiddling my thumbs.

Flash

What's the framerate of the original and what framerate are you encoding at?

ASHY

What's the framerate of the original and what framerate are you encoding at?

ASHY

Original 23.976

I have tried encoding the video to both 25Pal and 29.???NTSC.
I anticipate the next reply to be try 23.976Film you dope.
I will try this and let you know.
What about my burner? Do you think it is past its day or should it be OK?

Thanks for the help

Flash

Tried at same frame rate - same jumpy results

I think I know your problem.
I assume you are using the PAL system in your country.

The PAL system requires that the format is 25 fps at 625 lines a second.
What you need to understand is that it won't make any difference if you encode at the same framerate as the original as what will happen is your player will automatically convert the 23.976 internally to 25fps to make it compatible with the PAL system which as you have noticed will give the same result as you got using TMPG to convert it to 25fps.

Encoding 23.976 to 25fps MPEG will definitely give the jerky result even in media player, so look closely and you will see the jerks even if only slight.

As a test convert a test piece of the avi to 25fps using virtualdub.
This will however desync the audio but this doesn't matter as it's only a test.
Put the converted test file in TMPG and proceed to create a standard PAL VCD at 25fps using the template.
Make sure it plays smooth in mediaplayer even though the audio will be off.
If it does burn it with NERO using the VCD option.

Let me know the results.

ASHY

Just a note for all those having parasites, freezes or misc errors using TMPGEnc : first check your RAM. I had a lot of problems and didn't know what was the cause of them. Then I check my memory using free MemTest software (look for it with Google). It appeared that I had a corrupted memory chip. I changed one then all my problems were resolved !

I hope this solution will help some people.

Bye !