It is possible to de-multiplex a VOB file containing a linear PCM audio stream with TMPG Enc?

I am very interested in doing it: extract video and linear PCM streams from a DVD-R disk made with ReelDVD authoring tool. The MPEG-2 video stream has been carried out with MovieMaker200 Optibase card.

I am ready to buy TMPGEnc if it is able to realize this function.

THANK YOU.

Yes just load the VOB into the TMPG de-multiplexer under File>MPEGtools and each stream should show up. Double click each stream you wish to extract.

Download TMPG first and try it to make sure, but I'm sure will have no problem.

ASHY

Hi,

I just ran into a strage problem - I'm trying to convert a divx (avi) file into (S)VCD file. Everything works fine except the fact that the audio is lost.

I've also noticed that TMPEnc doesn't find the audio when I'm using the "source range" (setting->advanced) with "Display Audio" checked (Only a single horizontal green line is displayed).

Also tryied to extract the audio-only (creating an MP2 file) but the result was silence ...

I've got no problems when playing the AVI file in media player.

From the properties -> details of the avi file,
Audio: MPEG Layer-3,114 kBit/s, 44,100 Hz, Stereo,
Video: 448 x 288, 24 Bits, 176934 Frames, 25.000 Frames/Sec, 101 KB/Sec, DIVXMPG4 V3
Software used: Nandub v1.0rc2

Any idea?
Erez

I think TMPGENEC can accept only WAV files not compressed audio files.
Tryto extract the file as a WAV file. VirtualDub should be able to do this for you directly from the AVI file. Alternatively you can convert the MP2 you have in WAV. Then re-encode, it should work fine.

TMPG sometimes has a problem with compressed audio, so your best bet is to convert the audio to a wav with Virtualdub and load that into TMPG. Theres no need to re-encode the video part just load the wav and encode that then when it's done converting to mp2 just multiplex the video and audio together.

ASHY

i have also been having this problem with a few AVI files, i have converted the audio to WAV many different times, but TMPGenc still doesn't see the audio. i also have a file that VirtualDub is telling me has 5 audio tracks, is that possible? TMPGenc doesn't see any audio on that file either. overall though, i've found TMPGenc to be a great program.

It depends what type of audio you are converting to wav and with what.
Virtualdub doesn't handle all types of audio. It fails with Ac3 and can have problems with VBR audio.
If you convert to wav and then play the wav and the result is no audio then it is pointless using that wav in TMPG because the audio isn't suddenly going to magically appear.
There has to be audio in the wav in the first place for TMPG to encode. I've never known a problem where TMPG cannot encode a wav file.

Many AVI files use AC3 as the audio and neither TMPG or Virtualdub will handle this correctly without the proper codecs installed and even then you can still have problems.

The best bet is to download something which can handle Ac3 or VBR audio like AVImux which can extract individual streams from AVI files and/or encode them to something else such as a wav file.

ASHY

Thanks for responding. the WAV files i pull of the AVI files sound great, there Is sound on them, but when i use the WAV files as an audio source in TMPGenc it shows no audio. i've tried using several different frequency WAV files and tried using different programs to create the WAV files too. i have also made MPG files out of the AVI files with no audio and tried to substitute the audio from the WAV file. i can watch the resulting MPG files on my computer fine with good audio, but TMPGenc doesn't register that there is audio in these files and Nero creates VCD/SVCD's with quietly garbled audio. like i say, most of the AVI files i have work great with TMPGenc, i realize that there probably isn't a quick or easy solution to the problem i'm having with these 3 or 4 files, but it feels nice to vent my frustrations here just the same.

You might try raiseing the "Wav File Reader" in the "Vfapi Plugins" but if that doesn"t work try useing something else to encode the audio to mp2..I use "Headac3e" it converts to quait a few different formats and it will downmix the Wav file if it has more than 2 channels(svcd/vcd only supports 2 channel audio which might be your problem)..and after encodeing to mp2 you just Multiplex the audio together..

i followed your advice, first i raised the priority of the WAV File Reader, that had effect that i could see. next i downloaded the Headac3he program and used that to create an MP2 file (MPEG 1 layer II @ 224 kb/s) and then used that audio file to multiplex a new MPG file. i can watch the file just fine, but TMPGenc and Nero don't find the audio. VirtualDub gives me this file info for the Audio: 44 Khz 224 kb/s Layer II. does this sound correct? i'm not too worried about it, i'm happy just being able to watch the file on my computer, but it would be nice to figure out what i'm doing wrong in case i run into this problem again. when i load up the first original file i'm having problems with in VirtualDub, it's giving me this info: Video: 512x384, 25 FPS, DivX 5.0.2 Audio: 44100 Hz, 2(stereo) channels, 0-bit sample precision, and Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer 3 Codec. i realize that the compresses audio is the problem, but i've done everything in my power to change the audio file to something that TMPGenc will accept. when i substitute other WAV files in TMPGenc i see audio, i've even used a WAV file editor and cut/pasted the movie audio into an existing music WAV file, TMPGenc sees the first part of the audio file, the music, but doesn't see the movie audio.
any help is muchly appreciated.
thanks.

>TMPGenc sees the first part of the audio file, the music, but doesn't see the movie audio

Even though MPEG does support multiple audio tracks you cannot have two tracks merged into one to play as one audio track. You must re-encode the merged audio files as one track otherwise one of the tracks is likely to be ignored by TMPG.
I do not understand why you are attempting to do this anyway. If you use a proper program for extracting Ac3 audio it should downmix this audio into a single 2 channel wav track which TMPG will have no problem with.
TMPG will not handle multiple channel audio tracks correctly and this seems to be what you are trying to do.

ASHY

I'm sorry. i guess i wasn't making myself clear. i have an AVI file that i can play fine on a few video players i have on my system, but no matter what i do with the audio, TMPGenc (and Nero) do not recognize the audio. the quote you pulled from my message was in reference to the fact that TMPGenc recognizes every other WAV file i throw at it except the ones that i pull from the AVI file. i actually took a different WAV file that i already had with music on it and pasted the AVI audio track after the existing audio, TMPGenc recognized the first part of the WAV file with the music on it, but didn't find any sound on the second part. i am talking about one simple WAV file, i'm not trying to create a 6 track MPG file or anything like that. anyway, i'm happy enough to just watch the thing on my computer and i'm sure you have more intelligent questions on here than mine that need your help worse. i really appreciate your help though, thanks.

After I save my project in TMpgenc, i usually convert my files to a psuedo .avi in the VFAPI converter. Since Ive switched computers, and after trying to load my file(s), ive been having a "VFAPI Reader codec" error in the converter. I have my direct show priority raised to 2 in TMpgenc, but cant figure out the deal is.

Does anybody know what may be causing this problem?

Thanks

I just installed the vfapi codec and still get the same thing, it wont accept my .tpr files from tmpgenc

To install the VFAPI codec you must run this file vifpset.bat in your VFAPI converter folder.

To allow it to accept TMPG project files you must run this file TMPGEncVFP_Install.bat which is downloaded from the TMPG site.

Then in TMPG you must check Option>Register TMPGenc.vfp to VFAPI.
You should then have no problem.

ASHY

ASHY,

Thanks for the reply.

I did everything you said above: ran vipfset.bat from the vfapi folder,

ran the file TMPGEncVFP_Install.bat which I downloaded from the TMPG site,

and registered TMPGenc.vfp to VFAPI.

I'm still having the same "Reader Codec" error in VFAPI converter. With one file it actually worked, but never saved it to a the Output folder lister in the converter box.

I went ahead and erased all my old .tpr files, and saved them again after I reinstalled TMPGENC 2.58 and VFAPI with the necessary codec and I still have this problem.

Would repeating the whole process (re-installing the software and codec possibly take care of this problem? Or am I going about this the wrong way.

Thanks

What is the differece between the 2-pass VBR and w-pass VBR (old type)???
If the source video is encoded @ 23.97 fps should I use 3:2 pulldown?

From what I understand, the new 2x vbr uses better bitrate allocation, produces better quality, and takes less time to encode.

And yes, if you encode @ 23.97 ("FILM"), you should have the 3:2 pulldown on playback option set.

what is the easiest way to convert avi file to mpeg so i can make a vcd?

I find that avi2vcd is the easiest converter to use. It's also free. Check out http://www.vcdhelp.com/ they explain everything about nearly every program, step by step.

I capture a video clip from a digital 8 video camcoder, iam using TMPGEnc trial version2.0 .Iwant to convert the clip to a vcd but this error come out all the time please helpme if some one have an idea. Thanks

This is the error that comes up (Can't load''P3Package.dll )

Make sure all of your Tmpgenc Files are in the same Folder especially the Main EXE file and the "P3P Package.DLL" file.If all else fails re-download Tmpgenc..

I am getting an error when trying to encode from .avi to .mpeg1. It says, "Index of scan line is out of range(182)." What does that mean and how can I fix it?

Hi, i have a problem
I'm trying to compress to videocd a divx 5.02 file, 24fps.
But i have no a/v sync from the beginning. What to do ?

Make sure you are encodeing it to 24fps not 23.98fps that will cause d-sync..

I have been having no luck converting a captured DV file to DVD complient video. Something always dies in TMPGenc 2.58 a number of minutes into the source material. One error message I get is "privilege order error". The other is some sort of exception. I've tried changing the priority of the plugins which only seems to change the error message.

I am running Windows XP pro and the input file is around 11Gig on an NTFS partition. Athalon XP 1500 and 512Meg RAM.

I also have not had any luck using either of the ulead DVD programs to encode the video. I have been successful in the past using this computer with Windows 98SE in encoding and creating DVD's. Quite frustrating and any help will be appreciated.

If you are getting these errors in tmpgenc and getting errors in "Ulead" then there is most likely something wrong with the AVI file you are encodeing, have you tried to load it into Virtual Dub to scan it for errors??and if you can get Virtual dub to accept the file without any errors then use it to frame serve to Tmpgenc........

Thanks for the advice. I think the AVI should be OK because I captured it directly from my digital camera via Firewire using the Ulead software. It plays back in Media Player OK as well though I didn't watch all 54 minutes of it! I will however see what Virtual Dub says about it. Maybe frame serving it will work better as well. My other thought is that there are some large file size issues here.

I did all this around 6 months ago to successfully creat a DVD but that was under Windows 98SE with the then current versions of the same programs.

Is the "Plus" version of TMPGEnc faster at encoding than the standard free version?
What benefits are there to buying the "Plus?" (Nothing is listed in the FAQ).

The plus version has a better 2 pass encodeing method, and allows you to use Higher bitrates and the Mpeg2 doesn"t run out in 30 days..cuz after you have used the demo for a Month useing mpeg2 you can"t use it any more..Meaning you can not download the latest demo after your demo runs out..so after a month you basicly Have to buy it if you want to keep useing it for mpeg2 encodeing..

I'm only encoding with MPEG-1 anyway, so the time limit of MPEG-2 is of no concern to me. :) But if the encode speed is the same, then I guess the free version will suit me just fine (I don't use 2-pass encoding). Thanks for your reply!

can anyone help me with info on how to convert a vcd mpeg1 disk to mpeg2 to go onto my desktop for copying any help would be great

thanks madtiger

What problem are you haveing???If you are lucky you just load in the Mpeg1 file and encode it to mpeg2, but since we don"t know what your problem is all I can do is tell you to go to ;http://www.vcdhelp.com/ and read a tutorial of useing Tmpgenc...

Can I just ask why???????? What's the point??????

ASHY

...also, Anybody know of a
other way to burn vcd's/ svcd's besides nero, aparently in nero, my minimum on my new burner is 8x (that sucks) / or wnybody know a way of tweaking the minimum burn rate to 4x or less?

Peace

Sometimes the Burn speed depends on your CD-R"s, if you get really cheap CD-R s some of them have to be burned at 4 Times speed, and nero will let you burn at that speed...I don"t know why 8 times speed should make any differance compared to say 4 times speed, I burn all of mine at 8 speed, on My 24 speed Burner, usually if you keep it below half the top speed of your burner you should"s have any of those problems that come with burning to fast, and if you get High speed CD-R"s it seems you can burn on them faster, like the 32 times or 40 times ones...

snice you r on the subject or nero why does nero take fookin hours to encode a flim that runs 40 or 50mins and when you use tmpgenc it takes at least 1hour to 2hours my last encoding from nero took 64hours for a 55min part 1 of like mike why is this snice you all sound like brainy peeps :D

oh and i got nero with me cdr i never cracked it ;)

WHY?? Because Nero sucks for encodeing and that is it...

You shouldn't be using Nero for your encoding, use TMPGenc or another program to get an MPG file that Nero will accept. i think Nero is a great Burning program, but when it comes to encoding, it's not so good.