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There are quite a few reasons that this can happen,but they mostly come down to the audio in your avi file isn"t compatable with "tmpgenc",The audio could be "vbr" which tmpgenc doesn"t handle ,or a unsupported format like "ac3".You can extract the audio from your avi file to wav with "virtua dub" and encode that to mp2 then multiplex it with the video from your mpeg file after de-multiplexing it..but if the audio is "ac3" you need to convert the audio with an "ac3 decoder".....
all I do is this.... open virtual dub and load the movie file....go to the audio tab and choose compression...choose no compression...PCM....then in the conversion tab I do not convert it...leave it alone ...then set it to full processing mode...then go to file and choose save wav...also go to file...file information...this will give you the framerate and the resolution....this is good to know which template to load...after your done saving the wav file...in tmpgenc load up the template that corresponds to the framerate found in virtualdub...then for the video and audio...use the avi file for the video source and use the newly created wav file as the audio source....there a re a few benifits by doing this...#1 the audio and video will be in sync(as long as the encode framerate chosen was the same as the source framerate)...#2 Will stop alot of unecessary errors that can come up from using avi for video and audio file...#3the file should encode a few hours faster... If I use the avi for video and audio it takes about 4 hours....if I extract and save the wav and use that for the audio source it drops down to about 1 1/2 hours... Happy encoding
It isn't necessary to do the selecting no compression, full processing blah...blah...blah..bit as it doesn't have any affect on the outcome anyway when you choose the 'save wav' option.
Just simply choose 'save wav' and the wav will be extracted as a wav no matter what the settings are.
actually ASHY this is not true.... If you leave it on direct stream processing it will save a wav...but in avi format leaving you with a file about 100-300meg...I have had terrible sync problems with these audio files... If you choose a mpeg or layer compression the wav will be saved with compression...which could possibly cause a loss in quality...the resulting wav files that have the best sound quality and always create perfectly synced movies are around 800-1000meg.... I find this is the only way to get it to work... on a side note...I sometimes have problems saving the wav file with virtual dub...the whole program crashes.... I found that magix music video maker generation 6 works awesome for saving the wav files... it is alot slower than virtual dub...due to loading the movie...but it resamples the file for excellent sound reproduction and can also be increased or decreased in volume for those that like to mess with this...along with a multitude of filters...but even a direct save will create a very good sound...
I apologise you are absolutely right!
For some reason I was sure that it would only save as a wav and not with compression.
Has it always been like this with Virtualdub because I could have sworn blind that I had tried it once and it didn't work (but that was a long time ago when I was a complete amatuer)
Well you learn something new everday.
Thanks 4 the info.
Heres a tip for you.
TMPG is quite capable of extracting the audio from an AVI or MPEG file.
Simply load the file and click File>Output to file and choose wave file. You can also add compression if you wish.
well ASHY I am not exactly sure....as long as I have been using virtual dub I have noticed this issue... I found the solution to my problem at www.vcdhelp.com that site is really nice....it has many tutorials...the problem is is that not one tutorial is 100% accurate, nor does each one explain all of the options.... I have found the best possible settings from reading totorial after tutorial and coming up with my own way of diong things... I reccomend reading every tutorial on that site and all the different ways of doing things... if your a halfway intelligent person...you will come to the same conclusion as I did...
Trying to convert AVI to Mpeg for a videao CD. Each try the picture freezes at the same frame and will go no further. I even tried waiting a while but it did not resume. Any suggestions?
Does it happen with all files or just this one file?It"s probably just this file so the problem has to do with the file as opposed to tmpgenc,you should try to run it through "virtua dub" and scan for errors,and see if there are corrupted frames, but this won"t solve your problem,one thing you can try is to encode up to were it stops and then start encodeing agein at the frame or a few frames after after the error occors(virtua dub should tell you were the bad frames are but if not just encode after the error)and then you can join the parts together with the "merge & cut" feature.....
i put a mpeg-1 movie on a cd and played it on my dvd player and when i watch it there is a delay with the sound and picture when the person is talking the sound comes after there lips move.
I used DVDx 1.8a and TMPGenc to real time encode DVD to MPG. It was working fine for a while. Today I upgrade TMPGenc from 253 to 254, run TMPGencVFP_install.bat. Then after i start DVDx encode, and run TMPGenc, it give me error messages when I try to select the avs source file:
IPO source: There's nothing to serve, Are audio/video server taken?
I even restart the machine and reinstall TMPGenc, still doesn't work.
what exactly does it mean? How do I fix it?
thanks.
i just converted an avi file to mpeg-1 when i played it i got sound but the picture did not move it stayed at the same picture at the start of the movie but the sound was still going but the pic was not moving.
I just started using Tmpegnc to convert my avi file, and when im trying to encode I get this error message "Can't load "P3Package.dll" Can someone tell me what it means and how to fix it.
downloaded some avi files with (smr) in their name, they run in Real and WinMP but not really, the progress bar progresses as though it were playing but i get no picture or sound. I did some digging and found out about smr code patch which i tried, nothing. tired changing the .avi to .smr still plays but no Pic or sound....any ideas as to how to get these to work? is there a setting I'm missing?
ack, but 6.4 wont install on 2000....tryed "MultiAVI Player.exe" a 6.4 emulator or shell (not shure how it works) but no happy...not broken, smr fix can't find 'index' to start....so maybey it is messed up?
Did the other file work?
I maybe getting confused here with WinXP, but I could have sworn that media player 6.4 was in the same directory as media player 7.
Anyway if it isn't try another player such as WinDVD or BS player as these seem to work.
OK just checked and media player comes as standard on windows 2000.
You should find it in Program files in the Media player folder and is called mplayer2.exe
After I've created my CQ VBR SVCD, what is the best way to decide where to cut it to fit it on my CDs? At the moment, I'm just using a trial-and-error method with the TMPGEnc Cut tool. I try cutting it at a point, see what size the resulting size is, and cut again making ajustments accordingly. Surely there is a better way! :)
Well I would have thought it was obvious.
Find out the total length of the file in minutes then half the time and using TMPG cut at that point.
It won't be bob on accurate but the split files should roughly be the same size give or take 15mb even though they are VBR.
Hmm.. it was pretty obvious. I hadn't considered just dividing it in half, thirds, etc. I was thinking fill the first disc, fill the second disc, etc and then put what's left on the last disc.
Please help, i have a DivX5.0 rip with ac3 audio, have followed the instructions on vcdhelp.com, but to no avail. Using Lame as external audio, but still no good. Have nemo codec installed. Please help.
This is the first time I've entered this board. For now I'm a newbie user who makes VCD's en SCVD's with TMPGEnc. Now I've got a 'problem'.
When I make a VCD (PAL) I can play it in my stand alone DVD player. I even can use fast forward (2x, 4x speed etc). But when I make the same movie on SVCD, then I can not use fast forward, instead of playing it fast forward, the movie is going backwards en then stops with the first frame.
I use the standard options to make a SVCD (PAL), should I make some changes to anything?
I had the same problem. This has something with Nero. Or, if you have the same DVD player as I do (Apex 5131), it must be a combination of the two. Whenever I burn the SVCD with Nero, FF goes backwards and Rew just restarts play from the beginning.
VCDEasy creates them ok, though.
If anybody knows of something I'm doing wrong to cause this, please feel free to point out my error. :)
Sorry, I posted this earlier as a "reply" but title is vague, might get lost...
I am encoding from a QT file to MPEG-2 for NTSC DVD. My QT file was exported from a Mac-based Avid Meridian Media Composer using the Avid codec on "Same as source, 4x3 non-square pixel" setting. The source tapes that went into the Media Composer and were edited together for the final output are all 29.97fps DigiBeta. However, one of them was a standard 4:3 aspect ratio with source footage originally shot on 35mm film and telecined to tape. One was shot on Sony's 24P High-Def 16:9 camera and downconverted to DigiBeta 16:9. And another was shot on a Sony 24P 16:9 NTSC camera. So all of the original source material was 24fps (film or video) before it got onto 29.97fps DigiBeta.
There are several settings in TMPGEnc. Plus regarding 3:2 pulldown, inverse and otherwise. There is also a choice between Video Movie and Film Movie. I have experimented with various settings and gotten an acceptable picture quality with most of them, however the resulting MPEG-2 file invariable "stutters," an intermittent tendency to hesitate (dropped frames?) when viewed either through Elecard MPEG player on a Dell 1.8Mhz PC or from DVD on a reasonably expensive JVC DVD player.
I would appreciate hearing from anyone regarding the 3:2 issue (proper settings) and the overcoming of the jerkiness. The DVD will be playing in a constant loop and will never be "searched" or looked through frame-by-frame.
Researching in this forum, it appears the jerky problem may be caused by a bitrate/VBV buffer mismatch resulting in dropped frames. Anyone who could email me a TMPGEnc. template they think appropriate would be an immediate hero over here. Thanks.
I've now looked at several of my MPEG-2 output files through Bitrate Viewer and see that it reports VBV Buffer at 112 even though the setting in TMPGEnc. is "locked" at 224. Who's right or does it make any difference? Thanks.
I need you to clarify something.
You say the you have a QT file. Is this file 24 fps with 3:2 pulldown added or is it true 29.97 fps.
If it's true 29.97 fps then there is no need to apply IVTC as this will result in jerky playback.
Your jerky playback is the result of changing the frame rate incorrectly not dropped frames.
As far as I know you can't perform IVTC on a true 29.97 fps source as this would mean having to remove frames which are actually part of the movie itself thus causing stutters where the frames have been removed.
If the original source material was telecined to tape then it would make it true 29.97 fps.
If it is true 29.97 fps then simply choose the DVD NTSC template without IVTC and encode and your stutters should be gone.
I've now looked at several of my MPEG-2 output files through Bitrate Viewer and see that it reports VBV Buffer at 112 even though the setting in TMPGEnc. is "locked" at 224. Who's right or does it make any difference? Thanks.
Thanks, Ashy for your quick response. No, my QT file is 29.97fps NTSC. The source tapes were 29.97fps. The acquisition footage, from 35mm film and 24P video, however, was 24fps, so I'm assuming 3:2 pulldown was used to get the 24fps material onto DigiBeta.
I've tried with and without IVTC and still get stutters in Playback. Any thoughts on why BV reports VBV 112 when TPMPEnc is set to 224? Thanks
I don't know why, but bitrate viewer always reports half of what it actually is. Don't worry it's bitrate viewer which seems to be wrong as it happens with other encoders too.
You must keep the output framerate the same as the input framerate.
Assuming that your source plays smoothly at 29.97 then choosing the output at 29.97 not 23.976 SHOULD solve your problem.
It's unlikely to have anything to do with the buffer if it doesn't play smooth on you PC.
Ensure that your output remains at 29.97 when you choose a template.
Incidentally are opening the QT file directly with TMPG using the the QT plugin?
Yes, the QT converter is working transparently. I had to install Avid's QT codec for PC on the Dell that's running TMPGEnc, otherwise TMPGEnc's QT converter doesn't recognize Avid's proprietary "faster loading" QT format.
As for frame rates, I'm keeping both input and output set at 29.97. We had an MPEG-2 of the piece encoded from DigiBeta tape at Sunset Digital this morning and I'm going to be comparing that to the output of TMPGEnc. Incidentally, Sonic's MyDVD, which came with my Firewire card, choked on Sunset Digital's MPEG-2 file, which has a .VBS extension. I'm having to author the DVD in DVD Studio Pro. MyDVD had no problem at all with TMPGEnc's MPEG-2 file and it's a very easy way to get something simple onto DVD. In your experience, is there any difference in the quality of a DVD output by MyDVD and DVD Studio Pro? Thanks.
How do you mean quality?
I doubt there would be any visual difference in quality at all.
Once the MPEG is encoded, it's quality shouldn't be influenced by the software which authors it.
Regarding the VBS file. I seem to remember somewhere that support for this kind of file was removed from Win NT/2000/XP and requires a registry patch to allow Media player to play it using whatever codec you have installed.
Maybe this is something to do with why MyDVD is having a problem.
Just a thought.
The MPEG-2 file professionally encoded at Sunset Digital in Glendale, CA ran flawlessly after authoring in DVD Studio Pro and writing to Apple DVD with Toast.
By "Quality" I suppose I mean Quality of Playback rather than actual picture quality seeing as I'm reading so much in these discussions about the effect of off-brand disks, the inability of certain set top boxes to handle different authoring systems' output, etc. It is true, then that no authoring system (DVD Studio Pro, MyDVD, etc.) is going to change the actual "Picture Quality" but the way in which the TS_Video file is burned to disk, and the brand of disk used, can affect "Playback Quality"? Thanks.
I wholly agree.
The way the software burns can have an affect on compatibility with some players and the brand or type of disk used affects the out come tremendously.
I have used many mant different brands looking for that perfect disk at a reasonable price, but I almost gave up and resigned my self to the fact that if you want quality then it ain't gonna come cheap.
Some of the cheaper disks I have used, and here I am referring to ordinary CDR not DVD, would cause jerks, stutters, blocks, drop outs, sound problems just to name a few. Usually when using a better brand the problems where gone or reduced.
Then I decided to try one last cheaper brand which I had always thought that were bad and amazingly these disks play flawlessly even when burned at speeds I could never have burned with more expensive brands.
Who makes these disks?
Well RITEK amazingly enough.
Apparantly RITEK have improved the quality of the grade A disks they manufacture and are aiming at the professional sector now and I agree these disks definitely are Grade A and are quite cheap to boot.