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I used to be able to open mpeg2 files no problem with TMPGEnc, no when ever I try to open a mpeg2 file I get an error saying MMX processor only supported for this version or something like that. Well Guess what I have an mmx processor. It's just a stupid error. Best I can tell the error has something to do with the following file:
c:windowssystemm2v_dec.dll
the m2v .dll is the mpeg2 codec plugin for "tmpgenc" maybe you don"t have it, go into your "vfapi plugins" and see if it is there, if it isn"t install it, and if it is there try un-installing it then install it again, maybe this will work......
I've read so much and done so much testing that my head is spinning uncontrolably! :-)
I have a dvd+rw burner and am backing up a movie with all the .ifo .bup and .vob that are necessary. If I just want to keep the main four .vob files and burn in with Nero set at UDP/ISO DVD - do I need to manipulate the .ifo or .bup files in order to use just the four .vob files? Will the .ifo and .bup files look for the other .vob files that I don't want on my dvd+rw and produce an error when played on my stand-alone dvd player?
Will nero even burn the backup correctly with the UDP/ISO DVD format? I read somewhere that it may not, but I don't know how 'old' that info is... ugh! Can anyone stop my head from spinning?
While i am encoding and avi i get an error the says "something about lines" then stops converting.It happens when i get a 83% done which you can imagine is pretty depressing
1) This BBS needs a way to select and jump to a specific page, or even a specific article, the search system doesn't seem to be very acurrate or reliable (2 hours after begin search AND reading through every Post on here I still didn't find what I was looking for).
2) The archived messages don't go back nearly far enough (I saw what I was looking for months agao, complete with a highly detailed answer, only I didn't need it then...but now it is gone for good). A downloadable set of Zips for each months archive in TXT would be great.
3) The search system needs to be smarter and better, it seems to select random articles containing a word or part of a phrase, while leaving others out O_o.
4) I have decided to take my 8 years of Video and Digital Video experience to try to write a HTML document for TEMPGEnc troubleshooting. I have decided this after seeing the same questions repeated over 20 times, with every single answer being different slightly, and almost none of them covering the real cause or solution (Though workarounds and quick fixes do seem to be covered). To do this I will need to find the most common problems with TEMPGenc, and, if I do not know the answers, the solutions to those problems. I encourage people to respond to this thread, or Email me with common questions and answers. If you have expertise with Tempgenc you are willing to share, than I ask for your humble assistance with this project. When presenting Problems or Solutions please be as detailed and as Technical as possible (as I will attempt to replicate the problem and the solution for answers and validity). If I finish this, it is my full intention to present the compilation to the makers of TEMPGenc, or the operators of this site, as a Guide/Help file to include with the Program. My first Order of business is the whole "Illegal Floating Decimal Point Calculation Order", as this topic has been done to death, with many inaccuracies and wrong answers, and many helpful ones too. I welcome the input of anyone wishing to contribute, and contributers of working solutions and information will be credited fully.
The new version came out, still no fix for this. I don't want to see new functions in tmpgenc. I would like to see two functions if possible.
1. A buffer or a temp file that tmpgenc can use to write data and after 60min writes the data to encoded_file.mpg and keeps on doing so. And keep a record of last position or something so you can resume from where you last left of (if windows craches etc) so you only lose the last 60min or 30min of encoding time. This is due to that I guess a lot of people including me want to use windows at the same time it's encoding.
2. A function that will let's say splitt the output file automatic so that for 80min svcd the file don't go about 820 megabytes let's say you could specify predefined settings, 820, 815, 810, 805, 800 megabytes for a file.
And then have a overlapping with 5,10,15,20,25,30 seconds predifined.
In that way you could encode a file and then when it's finished just burn it and you done :)
Or maby it 2. is to hard to implement I would like to see the 1. in tmpgenc.
Regarding the resume suggestion, wouldn't it be almost the same to just manually encode smaller portions of the file and merge them when complete? Then if your machine crashes or you need to cancel, you only lose the current chunk.
I posted a message earlier about how I tried converting a DVD to a VCD. I followed the intrustions from a guide I found on the internet. I used roxio easy CD creator to burn in onto a disk. Everything seemed to work fine until I played it in my DVD player. It played like it was in slow motion, very choppy and the sound was choppy as well. I don't know what I did wrong! Please help me. Written below are the steps I followed, so you could know everything I did. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, or what I'm doing at all for that matter, so if you reply, could you speak to me like I know nothing? Thanks!
I used cladDVD to rip the movie, then TMPGEnc. I loaded the video source and audio source, clicked on the LOAD button and chose VideoCD (NTSC).mcf. Next I clicked the SETTING button and clicked on the advance tab and double clicked on deinterlace, went to an "action" part of the movie and then chose 'Even-Odd field (field)' from the method drop down list and made sure the 'enable filter' box was checked. Then I moved the movie forward to check to see if the movie was jerky and followed intstructions to eradicate that and get the right 'field order'. Next I checked for 'Interlacing Artefacts' in our picture. I went back to 'Deinterlace' and double-clicked it. I Un-ticked the box that says 'Enable filter'. Then used 'Back-Frame', 'Forward-Frame' and 'Slide Bar' controls to start moving the movie, and went to different sections of the movie, and it told me if you see strange lines in the film then the source is 'Interlaced', if you can't see these lines then we'll treat it as Non-Interlaced. then it told me how to correct it. Next I double-clicked 'Clip Frame'. Clicked 'Default', used the slider to get to a bright part of the film. Using the 'Top', 'Bottom', 'Left' and 'Right' input boxes removed all the black edges, clicked OK and made sure that option (Clip Frame) is ticked. Then I picked 16:9 as the source aspect ratio. Then I clicked on the audio tab, and bumped up the volume to 200% and made sure audio edit was checked. Then I selected the 'Video' tab and changed 'Motion Search Precision' to High Quality (slow). I got the file into the output box and pressed start on TMPGEnc. Later I split it into two parts so I could fit it on two CD-Rs. I just followed all the instructions from the clonead.cjb.net website (DVDtoVCD).
I don't know what I have done wrong. I have tossed two cd's now cause the same thing happened and I don't know where I'm going wrong. I don't even know how to check it before I burn it to make sure it's going to work. Please let me know if you have any ideas of what I can try. Also, if you have read this far, thank you so much for your time!
First thing you can do is get rid of "roxio"and get "nero" it produces much better burn"t vcd"s..And those guides are for general instructions ,the encodeing perameters will change from file to file, and you forgot to mention useing dvd2avi,and you should get some dvd playing software so you can play the files before you burn them..but who knows maybe getting "nero" will help...You seem to be doing every thing pretty well right so ann I can think of is your burning software, you can download a demo version from "www.downloads.com that is good for 30 days and I"m sure if you got creative you could get it for longer......good luck
Ok I'll start off by saying, dump clad DVD and download smartripper 2.41.
This is in my opinion and probably most people's opinion in this forum too, the best ripper there is as it automatically creates the .d2v project file you need.
If you want to carry on with CLADDVD fine.
The next thing I will say is that the site is confusing you unecessarily with all this field order and de-interlacing talk.
Non of this is necessary if your source is DVD.
You would only need to use this if some sort of Telecine had been added.
Don't worry about this too much.
So just set the field order to 'Top first'
Before beginning anything you need to check what the original framerate is of the movie. If it is 29.97 then carry on below, if it isn't then post back and tell me what it is and I'll give you further instructions.
1. Assuming you have already ripped the movie and you have a .d2v file and a wav file.
Load these into TMPG and choose the NTSC VCD template.
Now under the 'ADVANCED' tab set these options:
Video source type - Interlace( if a DVD)
Field order - Top field first
Source aspect ratio - 16:9 display (if this looks strange then choose 16:9 NTSC)
Video arrange method - Full screen(keep aspect ratio)
Under the 'VIDEO' tab set these options:
Motion search precision - Normal
Forget about all this clipping and rearranging, it's not required, you can tackle this another time. The movie will still come out right.
3. After the encoding has finished you will need to split the movie.
When using the MERGE&CUT feature in MPEGtools make sure you select 'MPEG-1 Video cd' as the 'TYPE'
Run Nero and close the wizard which pops up.
In the NEW COMPILATION box click the option on the lefthand side which says 'Video cd'
On the right change the ENCODING RESOLUTION to 'NTSC'
Under the 'LABEL' tab, type in a name for your movie where it says 'Volume label'.
Now click the 'BURN' tab and choose the options below:
Determin maxiumum speed - Unchecked
Simulation - Unchecked
Write - Checked
Finalize cd (no further writing possible - Checked
Write speed 4x (Very important - DO NOT put the speed higher than this)
Write method - Track-at-once
Leave all others at default.
5. Locate your movie using the file browser and drag the movie into the left pane.
Nero will check it and if you have done everthing right, it shouldn't give you any warnings. If it does you have done something wrong when encoding.
If you get no warnings then click FILE>WRITE CD...
A box will pop. Click the 'WRITE' button on the right hand side and NERO will begin burning your CD.
When it's finished, your movie should play fine in your player.
One further thing to add about the field order.
If you do experience any interlacing artifacts in the movie then change the field order to 'Bottom first'
An easy way to check which field order to choose is to use the program I have provided a link to in the first step.
It will tell you if the movie is 'Top field' first or not.
I've been experimenting with different methods and bitrates, and have run into a few things. I'm using BitRateViewer for comparisons.
I've gotten results I really like using 2-pass VBR with an average of 2520, and maximum of 4000-5000. The resulting files have been the same or smaller than CBR 2520kbps SVCD files and the quality has been much better in scenes with lots of motion.
The downside, though, is obviously the time required to encode, so I've been messing with the CQ_VBR method, but have had little success. It seems that the results that I'm getting are very similar to CBR. I can't seem to get enough variation in the bitrate.
Just as a test, I've tried setting the minimum at 0 and the maximum at 5000, and encoded multiple files with the quality set to various percentages between 25 and 75. There never seems to be any more variation in the bitrate than there is in a standard CBR of the same video. It seems that all that I'm doing is making CBR files for which the bitrate is automatically determined by the quality slider rather than imputting the bitrate manually.
Is this a result of something I'm doing wrong or is it just a limitation of the program not scanning the clip twice?
Sorry if this has already been addressed, but I didn't find a message dealing with exactly the same issue.
Your mostly right the quality slider basicly balances the quality with file size.I usualy use quality at 100 witch seems to allocate the max bitrate for complex scenes but less complex scenes seem to get the same bitrate no matter what quality you set...vbr 2 pass will allways give you better quality for the file size.........
In my experience, using the right settings and using Constant quality(CQ) you should get results pretty close to a 2 pass encode and much better than Automatic VBR or CBR, regarding the quality and file size, when viewing with bitrate viewer.
Try this:
Bitrate Max - 4000 Min - 1800
Quality - 65
VBV buffer -112
Motion search precision - normal
Under the Quantize matrix:
Check soften block noise
Intra - 35 Non Intra 35
This should fit a 90-100 min movie of nice quality on two 80min cd's (you may need to reduce the audio bitrate a little depending on the type of movie)
The bitrate variance will also depend on the movie.
If you have a movie with lots of high action and quiet scenes the bitrate should vary a lot.
If the movie is quite calm all the way through then the bitrate isn't going to vary quite so much.
I have like the results I am getting with using CQ_VBR. I set it to 52 quality and range from a min of 0 to a max of 2500. The VBV buffer size is 40 and the resolution is 352x240. My results take me about six to seven hours to finish a 120 min movie and I am very satisfied with the quality. I have never tried 2 pass VBR. Good luck. -Pit Bullz
I created a SVCD mpeg2 file with 2 audio streams using the multiplex tool. I verified there were indeed 2 audio streams by loading the file into the "de-multiplex" tool.
Then I used Merge & Cut to cut the clip into smaller sub-clips. The resulting sub clips only have one audio stream.
I suspect tmpgenc forgot to handle secondary audio streams when cutting/merging.
maybe the problem is that svcd does not support multiple audio streams but I think plain mpeg2 does....I have done what you are doing before but when i went to burn it only one audio track showed up,maybe this would work ,get a audio mixing program(cool edit,sound forge) and mux the 2 audio streams into one and then mux that with your video......
I was able to use tmpgenc to create an SVCD mpg with 2 audio channel and was able to switch between the 2 audio channel in a SVCD compatible DVD player.
I just can't "merge & cut" the file and retain both audio channels.
i have some of the movies i downloaded that work fine with media player. when i use tmpg or virtua i have no picture. is there anway to convert these so they can be encoded for a vcd? thanx ive learned alot today already but i have a long way to go!
make sure you have the proper codecs installed on your machine because media player uses external codecs, post back with the specs of your avi file.......
And another thing movies downloaded off the net at places like "kaaza" are full of errors because the limited bandwidth and the way that files are split up in to pieces so that you can download them faster.I used to try to encode movies that I downloaded but I decided to do it right and get a dvd-rom,because 3/4 of the files i downloaded would crash the system or I would get encodeing errors..you should put your avi file in "virtua dub" and scan the stream for errors to see if the file is corrupted,media player will play corrupted files so don"t use that as a medium for thinking the file is fine...
I think I speak for quite a few people when I say if I could get my hands on the DVD's I wouldn't bother searching Kazaa trying to find the movies I want to watch, however beggers can't be choosers!
What you are saying about the files not downloading is however not correct. The problem is not with Kazaa but with the original files people are sharing. These are often poorly encoded, or even worse are pieced together from bits of other downloads that they only partially completed but couldn't be bothered to wait to complete.
If the errors with the files were being caused by Kazaa then it would be totally useless for sharing any types of software because a single instruction wrong could cause most simply not to install.
hi all.
the problem i have is that when i open a wav file as the audio source in TMPGenc, it tells me this file type is not supported!
i'm quite sure it is indeed a wav file, since i created it using DVD2AVI.
any ideas?
thanks.
thanks, but, nah - didn't work.
when i open the wav file with winamp it says - "waveform-audio file has no FMT chunk". do you know what might that mean?
thanks again.
I don"t know what it means but it probably is the reason for your problems, go back to dvd2avi and get the audio again, there might have been a problem when you were extracting the "wav" file...or you can try to load it in a audio encoder like "db power amp" and encode the wav to wav, basicly make a copy...