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Your using that crap Roxio for burning your VCD aren't you?
This error has happened becuase you have cut the file or re-multiplexed it with the MPEGtools and used the wrong stream setting.
You must choose 'MPEG1 Video CD' as the stream setting if you are creating VCD and not use the default 'MPEG1 system(automatic)' setting.
Take my advice download and use Nero for burning VCD. It is much better at it and gives better warnings if you have done something wrong.
I am having problems creating SVCD's from my home videos. Whenever I play it back there is a delay about every second that makes the video appear jerky. The MPEGs play fine on my PC but won't work on my DVD player. I am sure that it has to do with the buffering or the bit rate. I have tried TMPGEnc.exe, both the old Beta version and the new 30 day eval. I have played with the bit rate settings a lot but can't find a setting that works. I was only able to create 1 SVCD that would play continuously but it was with such a low bitrate that the video quality was terrible.
I have also tried to copy a DVD with DVDx and get the same results. I have normally use the SVCD option with Nero. I have also tried VCDImager. Could it be my DVD player? I have a JVC XV-S65. When I burn a stardard VideoCD I don't have these problems.
I don't think it's either the bitrate or the buffer. You most likely have encoded the movie to a different framerate than the original. TMPG won't do correct framerate conversion resulting in the problem you are experiencing.
Do more searching on this BBS. You will find a solution to do it correctly.
Hey TombMaker,You Would get Much better Results If you Captured To AVI instead if I frame Mpeg1, First off because Mpeg isn"t a Very Good format to capture to If you Want the best Possible Quality and Another thing is you are Captureing to Frame based Format and then encodeing it to a Field Based format(mpeg2) and I don"t think Tmpgenc will convert the Frame into Fields so You won"t get a Very Good Picture..And the Stuttering effect could be caused By Dropping Frames while captureing...and I checked in On some reviews on your DVD Player and it has Problems with SVCD"s at bitrates above 2500KBS so if you get Bitrate spikes above 2500 kbs you will get jumpy playback and the audio cutting out, I guess it only has a 2 times speed Drive in it when Most of the newer models have a 4 times speed drive in them...If you decode to capture to AVI make sure you have lots of Disk space anywere from 7-20GB per hour depending on the codec you use, PicVideo Mjpeg and HuffyUV are probably the Best Codecs to use for this..
Thanks for the hints. Where did you get the reviews of the DVD players? The only way I can get it to encode without stuttering is to encode it at ~11000 Kbps. Which is way too low quality to watch. I'll try your suggestion.
Can any of you chaps help out here,i have used TMPGEnc to convert a film i downloaded from the net,everything is great apart from i get the lines at the top and bottom of the screen,i have the clip frame set to no margin keep aspect ratio and source aspect ratio set to pal and the video source type set to non interlace(what does interlace mean!).
Does anybody know of any other settings that i can make to put this right or any help at all would be great.
Thanks Daneyboy.
If so you need to crop them out with the 'clip frame' filter and set the arrange method to 'full screen(keep aspect ratio) and the output to 4:3.
Bear in mind to crop black bars will need to cut out parts of the image from the sides if you wish to maintain aspect ratio.
Tick the 'resized image is used to display preview' when you do this to see how it will look.
Yout gonna have to be more detailed. I can't help unless you explain what you mean by lines.
What colour are they, how thick are they there when you play the file on the PC or just on your DVD player?
i downloaded the free version. now i'm trying to enter the registration code, but when i select register under the option menu, it just puts a check there. i would like to use this program for more that 30 days. someone please help.
I have encoded several AVI files with TMPGe set to output elementary steams of audio and video. When attempting to author a DVD with DVDit SE version 2.5, DVDit ressponds that a .mp2 decoder is not available. Any suggestions? I am using Windows XP.
Well Try to play the MP2 file with media Player and if you get an error that the Decoder can"t be found then it could be a common problem with WinXP, sometimes the "MP2" Decoder gets corrupted for some reason and you need to replace it...but this is just a Guess cuz it happened to me rescently....
This question has come up numerous times on this BBS. Unfortunately I can't quite recall the solution. Maybe you can find it by using the search box above.
I do know it is related to this specific version of DVDit though so try something like My DVD instead.
Firstly am I correct in assuming the error is actually 'MPEG2 decoder not available' and not 'mp2 decoder is not available'
Ok I may be wrong but its worth a shot. Apparantly your problem may be due to either having the Ligos player or codec on your system which is causing a conflict with DVDit or more commonly the wrong setting in TMPG.
Here are some TMPG settings which are supposed to be successful in working with DVDit.
Ashy, Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I was on travel and just returned. You are correct, the error message was "mp2 decoder is not available". I do have a Ligos codec installed. Any more information on the incompatibility with Ligos? Is it necessary to uninstall the Ligos codec in order that DVDit can function correctly with elementary video and audio files generated with TMPGe? Thanks, Bill
It seems the Ligos codec trys to take over decoding of MPEG2 files, so it causes a conflict with other programs which have to compete with Ligos to open the file causing problems.
All I can say is just try uninstalling Ligos and check the result if that doesn't work try the settings in the link above and create a short test file with them.
Ashy, I found out the LIGOS decoder was embedded in DVDit SE (version 2.5). If I get rid of the LIGOS decoder, I lose my DVD authoring package. I guess I will stick with outputting MPEG2 files from TMPGe instead of video and audio elementary streams. Oh well. However, thank you for your assistance.
Hi,
I have been trying to encode a movie so that it would fit on one CD. So from the duration of the .avi (captured MJPEG) I calculated the required bitrate.
The encoded file is too long, appr. 5800 sec instead of 5100, and as a result also too large to fit on the CD.
Where does this change come from?
(I capture PAL, 25 fps using freeVCR and encode to PAL xvcd, 25 fps)
Sorry, I've made a mistake... Apparently I have trouble counting.
It's not actually TMPGEnc that blows up the file, but VCDeasy that pads the mpg with zeros.
Has this anything to do with how I have encoded the mpg? I've encoded 8 files separately, and joined them together afterwards with the MPEG tools in TMPGEnc.
Hi 2 all. Please can someone recommend a bitrate calculator to me? I wish to write svcd files. I downloaded a calc, told it the length of the file, and that i wished it to fit on 2 80min cds. the resulting output was 1.71Gb!
Perhaps I did something wrong, but my logic tells me, i stand a better chance of success if I use a calc already used successfully by somebody else.
hi, Fitcd says bitrate of 2319 for the 81 min file. TMPGEnc says approx file size 1.3Gb which would work, but when it had finished encoding it was 1.7Gb!! (the first time i tried this file). do i only have to change the bitrate or do i have to do something else.
"Your" Calculator is not bad. But FitCD can do much more than "only" calculating Bitrates. It's a perfect Resize-Engine, it creates AVISynth-Scripts and it is able to calculate correct Bitrates for different Authoring-Tools. And the next Version (not longer Freeware) will be able to calculate correct Bitrates for DVD and MiniDVD too.
It's a kind of Swiss-Knife for MPEG-Encoding.
Has anyone had trouble using CBR and spikes at the end of encoding. the end of the file is a black lead out and the last frame spikes to +11000. The same file encoded using VBR does not have this problem. just curious to know why this is happening. any thoughts would be appreciated.
Are you useing "Bitrate viewer"?
If so, then you should know it's a bug they have... If the movie doesn't end with a complete GOP(for example, you have a GOP of 25 frames and the movie ends with the GOP having only 2 frames) then the program shows as if the bitrate is high in the sky (or some times shows it ending with a 0bps, depending on how many frames there are in the last GOP)...
"Bitrate viewer" is the only program that gives such info (at least that I know) but I don't like it because of it's bugs (Also, seems like the program hasn't been updated for a long time...)
Yes i am! Thanks for the info as i will look into it further knowing this. the only reason i checked it with bitrate viewer as i got an error in a build using DVDitPE which i have been using for sometime now trouble free. i'll give the file another chance soon and see what happens.
I have noticed this also with bitrate viewer that if an MPEG doesn't end in a complete GOP that there are sometimes bitrate spikes at the end, but I have also noticed that cutting a few more frames (or adding) off the GOP can sometimes solve the bitrate spike problem even though the GOP is still not complete.
How do you know this info to be true ABS just out of curiosity?
How?
Because I tested it again and again on several files and got that...
Besides, according to the Encoding log everything is OK (frame sizes and bitrate specified are just fine), and having the last second with 0bps as "Bitrate viewer" sometimes show could be nothing but a bug...
Maybe these things don't exist when you buy the program because they note in their web site that if you do, the calculations are more accurate. Sorry, but I wouldn't take my chance on that... Also they have an even more expensive program now that they sell so seems like they rather focus on that then on "Bitrate viewer" (the more expensive one has no demo...)
How to chop a few frames off?
I have tested this myself and it works.
With some files which I have edited and cut there would sometimes be bitrate spikes at the end.
By simply moving the cut a few frames the spikes would disappear.
Also the demo is exactly the same as the full version as I have it.
The demo simply needs a file inserting in its folder to make it a full version.
The error I have been getting goes something like this. "Video Picture Size Larger Than Buffer" then the DVD build fails. Sonic explains the error as follows:
Title
Video Picture Size Larger Than Buffer
Description
DVD Legality Error
Symptom
Video Picture Size Larger Than Buffer error when attempting to build a project in DVDit or MyDVD
Solution
At least one MPEG file in your project has at least one peak that exceeds the buffer model defined in the DVD specification, making the file illegal for DVD. Try to create another file to see if it's a problem with your encoder or it's settings. If you continue to have problems please contact the encoder manufacturer.
Additional info:
The file format is DV captured with Pinnacle DV200 and edited in premier then frameserved to TMPG enc. I just encoded the same file using VBR instead of CBR and had no problems building the DVD.
There is a program called MPEG analyzer and shows practically everything you could want to know about an MPEG, but it's not free, there is a demo though. http://www.mpeg-analyzer.com/
Have plus2.5 and no matter what I do every AVI file I try to open says
Can not open , or unsupported this haeepns on all AVI files I try to open I can open mpeg files byut what I want to do is convert AVI files to Mpeg so I can burn on my Pioneer Ao4.
All help is appreciated..
You should have looked through the forum for your answer before posting because this question gets asked a few times every single day..Go to "Options" to"Enviromental settings" to "vfapi Plugins" and raise the "direct Show" to"2"...
I have the Creative Labs Moviemaker and after encoding from VHS there is a horizontal line at the bottom of the video stream. I'm sure I once saw in either the TMPGEnc or VCDEasy help that there was a way to chop that off, but now that I need to I can't find the help page. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks.
These sound like head changeover lines that are always present on tape playback.
Chopping them is possible but the material needs to be deinterlaced in order to resize the picture back to full frame. Virtualdub is a good way to go (Deint/crop/Smart Resize-Bicubic).
This is not an issue if the material is for TV viewing since that part of the frame is not visible (and you need to leave it interlaced anyway).
I'm sort of in agreeance with wcpaul here. It is just a simple case of using the 'clip frame' filter under setting>advanced.
Just crop off the line from the bottom. The frame will automatically be resized to full frame as long as you choose 'full screen keep aspect ratio' under the 'arrange method'
It may or may not be necessary to de-interlace first.
Check the results and if you experience interlacing artifacts then use TMPG's de-interlacing feature to de-interlace first.
I don't think, that your way is a good way.
You are resizing a cropped Picture to full size. This will give you a wrong Aspect Ratio. We are talking about those chobby Lines at the Bottom of the Picture, right?
This is a part of the Picture, you can't see on the TV (Overscan). To set this Zone to black helps you saving Bitrate and it gives you the right Aspect Ratio. Why encoding any thing, you never can see?
BTW: Ever tried to produce a block optimized VCD or SVCD? It can look much better than the normal on, especially at low Bitrates.
VCD resized to 336x224 (336x272), letterboxed to 352x240 (352x288).
SVCD resized to 448x448 (448x544), letterboxed to 480x480 (480x576).
>We are talking about those chobby Lines at the Bottom of the Picture, right?
No we are talking about head change over lines which are present on VCR footage and looks sort of like a glass bar right at the bottom of the picture.
Like you say why encode something you wont see, so it may as well be cropped out.
>You are resizing a cropped Picture to full size. This will give you a wrong Aspect Ratio
What do you mean the aspect ratio will be wrong?
The aspect ratio will be exactly the same.
TMPG will take care of the aspect ratio itself if you set the video arrange method to 'full screen (keep aspect ratio)'
Trust me I do this ALL the time.
TMPG doesn't actually even resize the image, it simply masks the part which has been cropped with black to maintain the correct aspect ratio.
From a professional standpoint, you want the entire field/frame full of video information except the blanking intervals.I've noticed alot of broadcasters cutting out some video information at the bottom since the turn of the century, and less ornately designed 'professional' digital video applications totally violating the NTSC standards defined way back in the 50s when RCA and NBC set the standards for the system. Of course, some say the tubes on the first color sets ever invented had richer color than their successors (due to the cheaper phosphor dyes used later) so i suppose NTSC is taking a backseat and suffering due to compliance the newer HDTV standards.
Never fear though, for those who want to maintain SOME professional integrity in their amateaur productions, The VHS artifact that creates those shifts at the bottom can be corrected with a good time base corrector, leaving you with all of the video information at it's proper asperct ratio.
Cut it in Half with the Mpeg Tools, Or re encode it with a Higher Bitrate and Put it on 2 cd-r"s with better Quality....or you can Lower the bitrate and put it on 1 cd-r and loose Quality...