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I am trying to convert some of my videos to vcd.
Saving private ryan is Damn long.
I have been trying to encode the second part which is about a 6 gig capture.
total time is 91 minutes 3 secs.
I am trying to fit it onto an 80 minute cd.
I have succesfully used TMPGEnc to calc the first part perfectly.
It was 1 hour 20 minutes long and it came out to exactly fit on an
80 minute cd
but the second part keeps coming out to be 908 megabytes(952,000 kbs)
cbr @ 982 was what I was trying.
What did I change or am doing wrong now.
Please help I have encoded this thing about twice now lowering the bit rate
It takes 4 and half hours to encode this!help
Why are you so eager to fit so much on a cd,the quality will be total crap,any movie with more than 80minutes of vcd on one cd will be really bad quality, come on cd"s are like 50 cents each I think you can come up with some pocket change for the extra cd,If you want a good quality vcd dont have the bitrate lower than 1150kbs,I dont go lower than 1650kbs and with that bitrate I get 60min on a cd,and if the bitrate gets to low your dvd player won"t be able to read it cuz dvd players have a minimum bitrate they can read and your vcd"s will have a stop start effect in high motion scenes....Trust me with vcd"s the direction to go with bitrate is up not down.........
I just toyed around with VBR VCDs. With 2 pass VBR min/mean/max 750/1300/1850 I can fit ~73 minutes on an 80 mins CDR in quite nice quality. VBR is NOT in in the VCD specs but at least my Yamakawa DVD player has no problems with it.
In my humble option the quality of an VCD with 1150 kbps CBR is plain ugly and not worth the encoding time.
My thoughts exactly,and i haven"t had problems with vbr in vcd either,I think most players will play vcd"s as long as the bitrate isn"t to low and the frame is the right size,and of course 41000hz audio.....
there is something wrong here and i cant figure out what no matter what bit rate I choose it comes out as 908 megs(952 kbs).I have tried deleting the config file ??does tmpeg make registry entries.I have tried encoding at various bit rates and same result.Has this happened to anybody else.I bet i am making some really stupid mistake .I just cant figure out what.It seems to me I encoded the first part which was an 1 hour 10 minutes at about 1600 or something i am seriously confused.I just slipped in an new 1000 mhz processor tho so I guess I can make the same mistakes faster heh heh :( Help
tmpgenc wont make a mpeg file with such a low bitrate that it doesn"t have enough bytes to make up the movie you are makeing because if the bitrate is too low you wont have anything accept some pixels on a frame and major "buffer underflow".tmpgenc wont make a movie for me if I put in 200kbs because the buffer wont have enough info to make up the frames, there is a minimum bitrate that you can have and still have a image...
Hood load a template to make VCD! That will get your started. If your movie has a pan-and-scan version then that might be an easier experiment than the widescreen one.
if the movie is 70 minutes as you say then your 900+ megs of movie is too big to be correct - as in VCD standard ntsc. Read up on the basics at vcdhelp.com.
29.97 frames per second - 240x352 Framesize and 1150k data, is the USA standard.
and the only way you could have that tiny kbps is if your framesize is too small.
Keep us informed, maybe others could learn from your mistakes.
k
This happens to me too, sometimes. First of all, check in Option->Preview
that you do not have preview fixed to 320x240 (check "do not fix"). Second,
try opening the same file again. For me, the second time around, it works ;-)
>When I try to open a DVD NTSC file I get this error message : can not open, or unsupported. Note: I have no problem opening MPEG 1 files just MPEG 2.
Whilst merging 2 files encoded using TMPGENC for VCD, the output file has a beep and a break in the audio at the end of part one. I've also noticed that there is a break in the audio at the end of part 2. On using the merge/cut just to process a signle part the same thing happened a gap in the audio at the end of the output file. Can anyone help with this or is this a bug?
I am using Pinnicle to capture video and edit it no problems there. The problem is how to make a VCD to play on my DVD player. I have been able to make a VCD and play it on my DVD in MPEG1 but the quality is poor. I have latest versions of Nero and Easy CD Creator to burn CD's. I have downloaded TMPGEnc and updated Pinnicle.Can anyone help or give me a good site link that may help?
1) try MPEG-2
2) what is the bitrate capacity of your DVD player when playing VCD? My player reads only up to 2500bps when playing VCD. This isn't all that great if your video has any motion (in my opinion). If your player can read higher than 2500, try encoding at a higher bitrate. I haven't done this but have read that others have done this with success.
3) Unfortunately the next step would be a DVD burner. I'm doing it a bit now and am happy.
doug
Yes the vcdhelp.com has many tutorials, even if they don't relate to your sys.
The guide for using Dazzle and TMPGEnc can be applied to your sys.
They have sample files there, I suggest trying XVCD if you can't do SVCD (mpeg-2) on your player.
I capture at a higher bitrate at 352x240, and my player plays to nearly 2000k bitrate instead of 1150k.
That guide will help explain how to use settings on TMPGEnc, and there are other guides there - to help making better-looking VCDs.
You have the same quest as all of us, basically.
You could download some multimedia postings for sampling Quality from the binaries groups also. For example TV show Millennium is excellent SVCD - but others are not much better than VCD.
Use Virtualdub to make a wav-file of the sound and then use the wav-file as the auidosource in TMPG-enc. Make sure that you save the wav at 44.1 kHz. (Audio-Conversion in VirtualDub) and have no compression. (Audio-Compression in VirtualDub). You must have the "Full processing mode" marked in the audiomenu. After this just "Filemenu ==> save wav".
the reason some divx movies don"t have sound is because some divx movies have ac3 audio which "tmpgenc" can"t read ,I don"t think "virtuadub" can read it eithere but you can try,I use "sound forge" to extract the audio and encode it to wav then load that in tmpgenc for the audio..
If sound and video work in VirtualDub, why don't you use the integrated frameserver . Works great on my system (also you can apply better filters thru Virtualdub without saving to another avi first)
Hi - I am using 2.54 to merge/cut some files that were captured with DVC II (SVCD) and (DVD) [mpeg2 in general]. All i get EDIT is a black screen - but i do get audio...
This used to work in 2.53 for me...
Any ideas??? Thank you for your consideration & TIME!
the merge and cut and all the mpeg tools aren"t gauranteed to work with mpegs that are not encoded with "tmpgenc", try a different video editor like "ulead video studio pro" or "media studio pro".....
um, hi this is sizzy and i have a major problem. my videos after converting them to mpeg files through tmpgenc has scratches in them. it's so annoying, i mean with every other second or so there seems to be a scratch. i tried one of those toolame encoder and it kept on saying i can't use it. help me anybody...
if you can"t get "toolame" to work try "scmpx" you can get it by looking on any search engine,if you can"t get any of them to work then you have problems other than scratchy audio ......
Did you just convert the file to mpeg, or did you also split it using the tmpgenc mpeg tools? I have had this problem, but cured it by avoiding the split/merge tools and updating to version 2.54a.
-don
Hey VeloBorg, i don't know about the split/merge tools... where is it and how can i avoid it? i also took your advice and downloaded 2.54a version, and it got rid of the scratchy skipping sound that I had before, but then half way through the video there were no sound... why is that... do you know? people advised me to use virtual dub, and i have it downloaded on my computer but i don't even know how it works. If you can help me with this problem, then I think I'm set...
I am trying to recode MPG-2 29.97 as 23.97, and having trouble with the last few frames of a clip. So I tried the source range feature, to specify the subset of the clip I wanted to process - and I have found two problems:
1. it seems that the forward/backward buttons on the source range window are not quite opposites of each other: if I move forward to a particular frame, then move past it, then back, then forward - the frame i am interested in does not appear at the same frame position the second (and later) times;
2. the processing is limited to a range *like* the one I specify, but not the exact same one - but this could be due to 1.
Am I the only one to see this? I am using TMPGEnc 2.54a...
With "tmpgenc"it is hard to get it to encode to the frame cuz it seems to go to the closest key frame instead,what you can try to do is edit a couple frames off the mpeg after encodeing but it still will go to the closest key frame ,I think it is a glitch with editing mpegs....
> because how would you like to do Merge and Cut if a video would not start necessarily with a keyframe
But if we are talking about the source range, then it *is* a glitch...
I should be able to select any frame I want as starting and ending points - and TMPGEnc should make the first frame I selected into a key frame on output, if the chosen frame was not one to begin with... And it should output all frames up to the ending frame i chose, whether that frame is or isn't a key frame - it can always fix up the output, if necessary. No?
I have not been able to find a solution to this problem, (it is not TMPEGEnc related,well sort of) Ever since I upgraded to XP. I cannot play my burned VCD's on puter. They work fine on my stand alone DVD player. The Mpeg file plays fine. I have tried several software programs from Windows Media Player to Power DVD. Power DVD will even play vob file but not a dat file on a VCD.
Any ideas? I have searhed the web, and all I found was alot of people with the same problem with XP. If any one has any ideas could you please email me as I don't have time to check this site to often.
Thanks in Advance
Don"t know what you mean I have the new plus version and I have "scmpx" as my external encoder but "toolame" works for me two,maybe there is a problem with your download of tmpgenc try downloading a new one........
I am new and would like to know why when i try to convert an ati file which my videocard is an all in wonder radeon that the tmpg 2.54a says that avi file is not supported or cannot open file i am trying to convert Harts war on 2 cd's i adjusted enviromental settings to zero except direct show which is on 2 I have converted other short 5 min movies but cannot convert any others! Can anyone help me? I am running xp with 1.6 ghz 80g hard drive but no dvd player yet only home dvd which i would like to play these movies.
Thanks!
ATI file ehh, never heard of it must be a capture format for ati video cards,is it an avi file?try captureing to uncompressed avi or another avi capture format,and try raising the "avi compatability reader" and"open dml" file reader"
in the "vfapi plugins"..Tmpgenc" is mostly compatible with avi, mov ,and mpeg formats so if you are captureing to a non avi format you will have problems,if you could encode your ati file to say divx4.12 with "virtua dub" then it would work .but try raising the filters first before you do a time consumeing encode to divx.........
I have a problem very similar to this one (hpd777): I have captured some video avi dv files from my videocamera, then I mounted a complete movie from them with premiere 6.0 and the output exported to a dv avi file.
Tmpgenc is unable to import the dv avi file exported from premiere but works OK with dv avi files captured from my videocamera.
I've used several versions of Tmpgenc but the result is the same.
The demultiplex isn"t for encodeing it is to seperate the audio and video streams so you can load the mpeg2 in to "tmpgenc" to encode to mpeg1, if you are getting the ilegal mpeg stream error while demultiplexing even when the setting at the top is set for "super vcd" then there is something wrong with the mpeg, or it wasn"t made by "tmpgenc" and could have a incompatable audio format,you can try to make an avi out of it and load that into "tmpgenc" but that would take twice as long as usual,....